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"MarkA" |
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30 Sep 2003 07:02:00 AM |
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Halloween Chick Tract |
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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30 Sep 2003 08:25:55 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 01:30:26 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Sure! You remember that newspaper story a while back about those
sacrificial victims found in, um...
I think it was in Maine?
Noo, maybe Maryland. Or Arizona.
Just last year. Or was it the year before?
Errmmm.
--- Kermit
Hold on, it'll come to me.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 07:53:33 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:30:26 -0700, Kermit wrote:
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Sure! You remember that newspaper story a while back about those
sacrificial victims found in, um...
I think it was in Maine?
Noo, maybe Maryland. Or Arizona.
Just last year. Or was it the year before?
Errmmm.
--- Kermit
Hold on, it'll come to me.
It was definitely somewhere sometime! Or so I read once somewhere...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "erikc" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 03:57:28 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:53:33 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:30:26 -0700, Kermit wrote:
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Sure! You remember that newspaper story a while back about those
sacrificial victims found in, um...
I think it was in Maine?
Noo, maybe Maryland. Or Arizona.
Just last year. Or was it the year before?
Errmmm.
--- Kermit
Hold on, it'll come to me.
It was definitely somewhere sometime! Or so I read once somewhere...
About 7 or so years ago in Mexico. Some American tourists disappeared and an
investigation revealed some weird fucked up little cult that was into human
sacrifices.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 06:50:56 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:57:28 +0100, erikc wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:53:33 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:30:26 -0700, Kermit wrote:
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:<2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick
Tracts web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up,
we will soon have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies
about the evils of that popular holiday. What amused me was the
tract titled, "The Trick", showing "Halloween's origin and real
purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate
more on the special incantations needed to place curses on the
treats which will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on
the same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and
make the children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Sure! You remember that newspaper story a while back about those
sacrificial victims found in, um...
I think it was in Maine?
Noo, maybe Maryland. Or Arizona.
Just last year. Or was it the year before?
Errmmm.
--- Kermit
Hold on, it'll come to me.
It was definitely somewhere sometime! Or so I read once somewhere...
About 7 or so years ago in Mexico. Some American tourists disappeared and
an investigation revealed some weird fucked up little cult that was into
human sacrifices.
There was a (relatively) recent blurb in Skeptical Inquirer about some US
tourists being murdered in Northern Mexico. The local authorities
attributed it to a human sacrifice cult. Their evidence: none. They
speculate that the Mexican police didn't want to admit that they were just
plain old highway men killing people for their money.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 11:00:18 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:50:56 +0000, MarkA wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:57:28 +0100, erikc wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:53:33 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:30:26 -0700, Kermit wrote:
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:<2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick
Tracts web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up,
we will soon have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies
about the evils of that popular holiday. What amused me was the
tract titled, "The Trick", showing "Halloween's origin and real
purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate
more on the special incantations needed to place curses on the
treats which will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on
the same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and
make the children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Sure! You remember that newspaper story a while back about those
sacrificial victims found in, um...
I think it was in Maine?
Noo, maybe Maryland. Or Arizona.
Just last year. Or was it the year before?
Errmmm.
--- Kermit
Hold on, it'll come to me.
It was definitely somewhere sometime! Or so I read once somewhere...
About 7 or so years ago in Mexico. Some American tourists disappeared and
an investigation revealed some weird fucked up little cult that was into
human sacrifices.
There was a (relatively) recent blurb in Skeptical Inquirer about some US
tourists being murdered in Northern Mexico. The local authorities
attributed it to a human sacrifice cult. Their evidence: none. They
speculate that the Mexican police didn't want to admit that they were just
plain old highway men killing people for their money.
Or from what Mexican friends of mine have told me, the police didn't want
to admit THEY were doing it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 01:31:08 AM |
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In article <2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Evidence from Chick? I think that you would stand a better chance of
finding an unmelted snowball you know where.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "*Nemo*" |
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30 Sep 2003 05:45:10 PM |
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In article <2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Is there *ever* any evidence to back up Chick's *****? I mean, honestly!!!
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 06:01:35 PM |
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*Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Is there *ever* any evidence to back up Chick's *****? I mean, honestly!!!
Some of his anti-catholic rantings have some truth in them.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 09:15:15 AM |
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In article <2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 11:46:55 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis says...
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
30 Sep 2003 12:37:52 PM |
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In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Sep 2003 07:54:05 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:37:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
I wonder where they'd get that idea?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 09:53:32 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.01.00.54.05.18009@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:37:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
I wonder where they'd get that idea?
Beats me - It couldn't have anything to do with my wearing all black and living
in a house that's made of gingerbread ;D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Oct 2003 11:31:45 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:53:32 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <pan.2003.10.01.00.54.05.18009@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:37:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
I wonder where they'd get that idea?
Beats me - It couldn't have anything to do with my wearing all black and living
in a house that's made of gingerbread ;D
I dare you to try a gingerbread house down here around New Orleans...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 12:18:07 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.01.16.31.45.533351@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:53:32 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <pan.2003.10.01.00.54.05.18009@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:37:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
I wonder where they'd get that idea?
Beats me - It couldn't have anything to do with my wearing all black and living
in a house that's made of gingerbread ;D
I dare you to try a gingerbread house down here around New Orleans...
No thanks! I have enough problems with sagging marshmallow roofs, peeling
chocolate fondant siding and Pez paving stones here! ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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01 Oct 2003 05:48:41 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:18:07 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <pan.2003.10.01.16.31.45.533351@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:53:32 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <pan.2003.10.01.00.54.05.18009@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo says...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:37:52 +0000, Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <2kcjnvgf1br6rl96cl96808fpmqc6qe3j3@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
snippage
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
It might come as a surprise to Chickens or Chick-believers!
<chuckle> Oh, they'd never believe it. Just say I was an evil witch or
something along those lines ;)
I wonder where they'd get that idea?
Beats me - It couldn't have anything to do with my wearing all black and living
in a house that's made of gingerbread ;D
I dare you to try a gingerbread house down here around New Orleans...
No thanks! I have enough problems with sagging marshmallow roofs, peeling
chocolate fondant siding and Pez paving stones here! ;)
Somehow I don't think the building code has *anything that covers this...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "Kermit" |
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30 Sep 2003 01:34:27 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<Tdgeb.22446$cJ5.3212@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
You don't remember the story of little George Washington and the
cherry tree? How he chopped it down, and when confronted, said "I
cannot tell a lie! I chopped this tree down to throw on the bonefire
of Samhain! All hail the Triple Goddess!"
Remember? He was so scarred by the experience that he became an avid
Druid-hunter, as which he honed his warrior skills, which he used in
the later revolution against the King of England and his almost-papist
church!
--- Kermit
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Sep 2003 02:17:57 PM |
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In article <1575bfdc.0309301034.5d5fdac7@posting.google.com>, Kermit says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<Tdgeb.22446$cJ5.3212@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <2v0jnvkp43c9sf4h3fn90knbp7tdb8r64p@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
LOL - Not at all (which should come as a surprise to no one) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
You don't remember the story of little George Washington and the
cherry tree? How he chopped it down, and when confronted, said "I
cannot tell a lie! I chopped this tree down to throw on the bonefire
of Samhain! All hail the Triple Goddess!"
<boggle> Really?!? ;)
Remember? He was so scarred by the experience that he became an avid
Druid-hunter, as which he honed his warrior skills, which he used in
the later revolution against the King of England and his almost-papist
church!
Well! Apparently my gradeschool education was lacking! :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Sep 2003 03:29:12 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:55 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
The other day, my surfing took me to the ever-popular Jack Chick Tracts
web site (http://www.chick.com). With Halloween coming up, we will soon
have to endure the annual tirade from the Xtian fundies about the evils of
that popular holiday. What amused me was the tract titled, "The Trick",
showing "Halloween's origin and real purpose."
In panel 6, the High Priestess says, "This year, we will concentrate more
on the special incantations needed to place curses on the treats which
will influence the children eating them."
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. There are people living on the
same planet as I do who believe that you can "curse" candy, and make the
children eating it turn into little Satanists. Amamzing.
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
Evidence? Chick?
Sorry, not possible!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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30 Sep 2003 02:01:40 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:55 GMT, Elroy Willis
elo@airmail.net said...
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
He lists four references:
1. Celebrations - The Complete Book of American
Holidays, Robt. J. Myers, (Doubleday & Co., 1972).
2. The Famous Druids, A. L. Owen, (Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1962).
3. The American Book of Days, George William Douglas,
(H.W. Wilson Co., 1948).
4. The Two Babylons, Rev. Alexander Hislop, (Chick
Publications, 1998).
I went over to Amazon.com and ordered books #1 and #2 on
that list. The third book is available at Amazon for the
bargain basement price of $120. It lists a different author
than what Chick has. The publisher is the same, though. He
may be referring to an edition that is older than the one
listed.
The fourth book was written about eighty years ago. That
means it's out of copyright. (Presumably) Chick's only
relationship with it is that they reprinted it. Amazon has
two editions of the book for sale. They have Chick's and
another publisher's edition. Some of the reader's comments
are interesting.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0766104478/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0937958573/
Greg the Reprobate
Missionary of Death
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 09:54:52 AM |
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Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
He lists four references:
1. Celebrations - The Complete Book of American
Holidays, Robt. J. Myers, (Doubleday & Co., 1972).
2. The Famous Druids, A. L. Owen, (Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1962).
3. The American Book of Days, George William Douglas,
(H.W. Wilson Co., 1948).
4. The Two Babylons, Rev. Alexander Hislop, (Chick
Publications, 1998).
I went over to Amazon.com and ordered books #1 and #2 on
that list. The third book is available at Amazon for the
bargain basement price of $120. It lists a different author
than what Chick has. The publisher is the same, though. He
may be referring to an edition that is older than the one
listed.
There's one on Ebay for $3.00 plus $2.75 shipping. Looks like an
old library book.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3555639504&category=1113
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 11:29:54 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:54:52 GMT, Elroy Willis
said...
Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
He lists four references:
1. Celebrations - The Complete Book of American
Holidays, Robt. J. Myers, (Doubleday & Co., 1972).
2. The Famous Druids, A. L. Owen, (Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1962).
3. The American Book of Days, George William Douglas,
(H.W. Wilson Co., 1948).
4. The Two Babylons, Rev. Alexander Hislop, (Chick
Publications, 1998).
I went over to Amazon.com and ordered books #1 and #2 on
that list. The third book is available at Amazon for the
bargain basement price of $120. It lists a different author
than what Chick has. The publisher is the same, though. He
may be referring to an edition that is older than the one
listed.
There's one on Ebay for $3.00 plus $2.75 shipping. Looks like an
old library book.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3555639504&category=1113
That book has the right author. I've just bid on it.
Once these books come in, I'll try to follow up with a post
showing whether or not they support Chick's claims.
Greg the Reprobate
Missionary of Death
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
01 Oct 2003 01:01:25 PM |
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Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
He lists four references:
1. Celebrations - The Complete Book of American
Holidays, Robt. J. Myers, (Doubleday & Co., 1972).
2. The Famous Druids, A. L. Owen, (Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1962).
3. The American Book of Days, George William Douglas,
(H.W. Wilson Co., 1948).
4. The Two Babylons, Rev. Alexander Hislop, (Chick
Publications, 1998).
I went over to Amazon.com and ordered books #1 and #2 on
that list. The third book is available at Amazon for the
bargain basement price of $120. It lists a different author
than what Chick has. The publisher is the same, though. He
may be referring to an edition that is older than the one
listed.
There's one on Ebay for $3.00 plus $2.75 shipping. Looks like an
old library book.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3555639504&category=1113
That book has the right author. I've just bid on it.
Once these books come in, I'll try to follow up with a post
showing whether or not they support Chick's claims.
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding
fathers denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human
sacrifices.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 06:54:29 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:01:25 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
Gregory A Greenman <see@sig.below> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said...
From:
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
"The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be
observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday."
"Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid
descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice."
Is there evidence to back up those claims?
He lists four references:
1. Celebrations - The Complete Book of American
Holidays, Robt. J. Myers, (Doubleday & Co., 1972).
2. The Famous Druids, A. L. Owen, (Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1962).
3. The American Book of Days, George William Douglas,
(H.W. Wilson Co., 1948).
4. The Two Babylons, Rev. Alexander Hislop, (Chick
Publications, 1998).
I went over to Amazon.com and ordered books #1 and #2 on that list.
The third book is available at Amazon for the bargain basement price
of $120. It lists a different author than what Chick has. The
publisher is the same, though. He may be referring to an edition that
is older than the one listed.
There's one on Ebay for $3.00 plus $2.75 shipping. Looks like an old
library book.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3555639504&category=1113
That book has the right author. I've just bid on it.
Once these books come in, I'll try to follow up with a post showing
whether or not they support Chick's claims.
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding fathers
denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human sacrifices.
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago. That's a long jump from saying that they are
active today, orchestrating a massive Halloween conspiracy.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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02 Oct 2003 08:40:47 AM |
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MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
<snip>
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding fathers
denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human sacrifices.
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago.
I'd like some actual details on their customs, and what "sacrifice"
consisted of back then, if it was a willing sacrifice, etc.
That's a long jump from saying that they are active today, orchestrating
a massive Halloween conspiracy.
Seems to me that the Christians who worship a human sacrifice to their
god are no different, yet they claim they're better than the Druids.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Ian" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 02:13:03 PM |
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In article <ru9onvg1l6kncgrg9j41t25kai06hhb3lu@4ax.com>, said...
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago.
I'd like some actual details on their customs, and what "sacrifice"
consisted of back then, if it was a willing sacrifice, etc.
There actually is some evidence that the Druids did perform human
sacrifices, but that they were largely willing sacrifices--the person
sacrificed would be the "messenger" to bring the peoples' requests
directly to the gods. Archaeological evidence has actually turned up a
few ritual sacrifices as well, for example one person that was drowned,
garroted, and had their head crushed in simultaneously--this specific
individual was believed to have been sacrificed before a conflict with
the invading Romans.
There have been reports of the Druids and Celts performing sacrifices on
unwilling subjects, but all of those that I know of come from early
Christian sources. Given that group's track record in demonizing and
persecuting those of other religions though, I think that they're
probably exaggerations or outright fabrications. (and so do a lot of
scholars too)
--
To reply to me via email, drop the dash in the address.
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02 Oct 2003 11:15:02 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:40:47 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
<snip>
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding
fathers denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human
sacrifices.
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago.
I'd like some actual details on their customs, and what "sacrifice"
consisted of back then, if it was a willing sacrifice, etc.
That's a long jump from saying that they are active today, orchestrating
a massive Halloween conspiracy.
Seems to me that the Christians who worship a human sacrifice to their god
are no different, yet they claim they're better than the Druids.
Most of my information comes from the most excellent movie, "The Wicker
Man", which is being re-made.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 01:29:35 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.02.16.14.45.894993@stopspam.net>, MarkA says...
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:40:47 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
<snip>
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding
fathers denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human
sacrifices.
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago.
I'd like some actual details on their customs, and what "sacrifice"
consisted of back then, if it was a willing sacrifice, etc.
That's a long jump from saying that they are active today, orchestrating
a massive Halloween conspiracy.
Seems to me that the Christians who worship a human sacrifice to their god
are no different, yet they claim they're better than the Druids.
Most of my information comes from the most excellent movie, "The Wicker
Man", which is being re-made.
Is it really? That was a great movie.
Bet they ruin it though ;p
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween Chick Tract |
02 Oct 2003 02:16:50 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:29:35 GMT, Robibnikoff
nospam@newsranger.com said...
In article <pan.2003.10.02.16.14.45.894993@stopspam.net>, MarkA says...
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:40:47 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
<snip>
I'd be interested in some actual supposed quotes of the founding
fathers denouncing halloween, or that Druids actually perform human
sacrifices.
I have no reason to disbelieve that Druids performed human sacrifice
several thousand years ago.
I'd like some actual details on their customs, and what "sacrifice"
consisted of back then, if it was a willing sacrifice, etc.
That's a long jump from saying that they are active today, orchestrating
a massive Halloween conspiracy.
Seems to me that the Christians who worship a human sacrifice to their god
are no different, yet they claim they're better than the Druids.
Most of my information comes from the most excellent movie, "The Wicker
Man", which is being re-made.
Is it really? That was a great movie.
Bet they ruin it though ;p
The best part was the name of the pub. They mess with that
and I'll mess with them.
(Actually Britt Ekland's dance wasn't half bad either.)
Greg the Reprobate
Missionary of Death
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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