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29 Jan 2006 05:22:10 PM |
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Happ Conspiracy, Squatter Bush |
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:19:50 -0800
From: Zepp <zepp@finestplanet.com>
Subject: #Scholars' Group accuses admin of lying and covering up about 9/11
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635179751,00.html
BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
By Elaine Jarvik
Deseret Morning News
Last fall, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E.
Jones made headlines when he charged that the World Trade Center
collapsed because of "pre-positioned explosives." Now, along with a
group that calls itself "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," he's upping the
ante.
"We believe that senior government officials have covered up
crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11," the group says in a
statement released Friday announcing its formation. "We believe these
events may have been orchestrated by the administration in order to
manipulate the American people into supporting policies at home and
abroad."
Headed by Jones and Jim Fetzer, University of Minnesota Duluth
distinguished McKnight professor of philosophy, the group is made up
of 50 academicians and others.
They include Robert M. Bowman, former director of the U.S. "Star
Wars" space defense program, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief
economist for the Department of Labor in President George W. Bush's
first term. Most of the members are less well-known.
The group's Web site (www.ST911.org) includes an updated
version of Jones's paper about the collapse of the Twin Towers and a
paper by Fetzer that looks at conspiracy theories. The government's
version of the events of 9/11 - that the plane's hijackers were tied
to Osama bin Laden - is its own conspiracy theory, says Fetzer, who
has studied the John F. Kennedy assassination since 1992.
"Did the Bush administration know in advance about the impending
attacks that occurred on 9/11, and allow these to happen, to provoke
pre-planned wars against Afghanistan and Iraq? These questions demand
immediate answers," charges a paper written collectively by Scholars
for 9/11 Truth. The group plans to write more papers, and present
lectures and conferences.
"We have very limited resources and no subpoena powers," Fetzer
said. "What you have is a bunch of serious scholars taking a look at
this and discovering it didn't add up. We don't have a political ax to
grind."
Fetzer has doctorates in the history and philosophy of science.
"One of the roles I can play here," he said, "is to explain why a
certain line of argument is correct or not."
In his original message to potential members last month, Fetzer
warned that joining the group might make them the subject of
government surveillance and might get them on various lists of
"potential terrorists."
The group's charges include:
.. Members of the Bush administration knew in advance that the
9/11 attacks would happen but did nothing to stop them.
.. No Air Force or Air National Guard jets were sent to
"scramble" the hijacked planes, which were clearly deviating from
their flight plans, although jet fighters had been deployed for
scramblings 67 times in the year prior to 9/11. The procedure for
issuing orders for scrambling was changed in June 2001, requiring that
approval could only come from the Secretary of Defense, but Donald
Rumsfeld was not alerted soon enough on 9/11, according to Scholars
group.
.. The video of Osama bin Laden found by American troops in
Afghanistan in December 2001, in which bin Laden says he orchestrated
the attacks, is not bin Laden. The Scholars for 9/11 Truth compared
the video with a photo of the "real" bin Laden and argue that there
are discrepancies in the ratio of nose-length to nose-width, as well
as distance from tip-of-nose to ear lobe.
The Scholars group hopes that media outlets around the world
will ask experts in their areas to examine the group's findings and
assertions. If this were done, they argue, "one of the great hoaxes of
history would stand naked before the eyes of the world."
The group also asks for an investigation of the collapse of the
World Trade Center buildings, following up on points made in Jones's
paper, "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" That paper,
recently updated, has been posted on Jones's BYU Web site since last
November.
Jones argues that the WTC buildings did not collapse due to
impact or fires caused by the jets hitting the towers but collapsed as
a result of pre-positioned "cutter charges." Proof, he says, includes:
.. Molten metal was found in the subbasements of WTC sites weeks
after 9/11; the melting point of structural steel is 2,750 degrees
Fahrenheit and the temperature of jet fuel does not exceed 1,800
degrees. Molten metal was also found in the building known as WTC7,
although no plane had struck it. Jones's paper also includes a photo
of a slag of the metal being extracted from ground zero. The slag,
Jones argues, could not be aluminum from the planes because in
photographs the metal was salmon-to-yellow-hot temperature
(approximately 1,550 to 1,900 degrees F) "well above the melting
temperatures of lead and aluminum," which would be a liquid at that
temperature.
.. Building WTC7 collapsed in 6.6 seconds, which means, Jones
says, that the steel and concrete support had to be simply knocked out
of the way. "Explosive demolitions are like that," he said. "It
doesn't fit the model of the fire-induced pancake collapse."
.. No steel-frame, high-rise buildings have ever before or since
been brought down due to fires. Temperatures due to fire don't get hot
enough for buildings to collapse, he says.
.. Jones points to a recent article in the journal New Civil
Engineering that says WTC disaster investigators at NIST (the National
Institutes of Standards and Technology) "are refusing to show computer
visualizations of the collapse of the Twin Towers despite calls from
leading structural and fire engineers."
Neither Jones nor other members of the Scholars group suggests
who would have planted the explosives, but they argue that the devices
could have been operated by remote control.
Jones says he has received thousands of e-mails from people
around the world who either support his ideas or think he's "nutty,"
and he still gets about 30 e-mails a day on the topic.
He continues to do research on cold fusion, which he prefers to
call metal-catalyzed fusion "to distinguish it from the claims" of
former University of Utah chemistry professors B. Stanley Pons and
Martin Fleishmann, "which we do not accept as verified." He reports
that his metal-catalyzed fusion work is going well, with three
scientific papers published last year.
Jones will present a talk entitled "9/11 Revisited: Scientific
and Ethical Questions" at Utah Valley State College at 7 p.m. on
Wednesday, Feb. 1.3
sch
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about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has
changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're
talking about getting a court order before we do so"
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| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Happ Conspiracy, Squatter Bush |
01 Feb 2006 07:19:02 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> had me ROTFL with:
news:75qdnVtlkcCP00DenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com:
The group's charges include:
. Members of the Bush administration knew in advance that the
9/11 attacks would happen but did nothing to stop them.
Gee, shades of Katrina, later...
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Rick" |
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| Title: Re: Happ Conspiracy, Squatter Bush |
30 Jan 2006 07:47:52 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote in message
<75qdnVtlkcCP00DenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com>...
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:19:50 -0800
From: Zepp <zepp@finestplanet.com>
Subject: #Scholars' Group accuses admin of lying and covering up about 9/11
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635179751,00.html
BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
By Elaine Jarvik
Deseret Morning News
Last fall, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E.
Jones made headlines when he charged that the World Trade Center
collapsed because of "pre-positioned explosives." Now, along with a
group that calls itself "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," he's upping the
ante.
Jones also teaches that Christ visited America after being resurrected.
Even most of the Kossaks are rejecting this conspiracy theory stuff.
- Rick
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