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01 Jul 2005 12:38:10 PM |
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Happy 4th, About the DOI |
The Declaration of Independence (1776)
* Introduction
* Declaration of Independence: Its Purpose
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doipurp.htm
* Jefferson's Declaration of Independence did not use the word
"Creator"
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doitj.htm
* Lincoln's reinventing of the Declaration of Independence
* The United States Supreme Court and the Declaration of Independence
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doisussc.htm
* An analysis of the Declaration of Independence
o Declaration of Independence: Preamble
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doi-pream.htm
o Declaration of Independence is not law
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doinotlaw.htm
o The Declaration of Independence Didn't Create
Independence, Didn't "Found" Anything, Didn't Separate Anything: It
Was an Explanation
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/doiexplain.htm
"Founding" Documents and Religion (1776-1791)
* Founding Documents and Religion, DOI, AOC, Constitution, BORs
o A Big Fuss Over Nothing: An analysis of real and imagined
references to God, Christianity and Religion and lack thereof in
obvious places in five documents from the founding period of our
history: the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation,
Northwest Ordinance, Federalist Papers, Constitution of the United States
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/bigfuss.htm
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The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and the discussion group for the above site listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members]
For people in Hampton Roads you are also invited to join
NORFOLK/VA. B. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE MEETUP GROUP
http://churchandstate.meetup.com/47/
Virginia Chapter Americans United for Separation of Church and State
http://au-va.org/
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respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: Happy 4th, About the DOI |
01 Jul 2005 05:57:30 PM |
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<buckeyeelo@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:drvac1h43kk2rluoivm3ph0r3b711d5b7o@4ax.com...
* Jefferson's Declaration of Independence did not use the word
"Creator"
The DOI written by Jefferson says you are a liar.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to
assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to
which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect
to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes
which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
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| User: "Syd Maniac" |
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| Title: Re: Happy 4th, About the DOI |
01 Jul 2005 06:08:49 PM |
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
You are wrong, inquastion breath..
PDW
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Happy 4th, About the DOI |
03 Jul 2005 04:38:07 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:57:30 -0800, Dana wrote:
<buckeyeelo@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:drvac1h43kk2rluoivm3ph0r3b711d5b7o@4ax.com...
* Jefferson's Declaration of Independence did not use the word
"Creator"
The DOI written by Jefferson says you are a liar.
How can that be when buckeye wasn't even born yet?
Is there a hidden clause in there somewhere that has escaped the attention
of millions over 229 years that says, "Buckeye is a liar"? Was this a
hidden, encrypted, passage that only Masons can read? Or Rosicrucians?
Or did you get a direct message across time via a wormhole?
What planet are you from?
-- Regards, Curly
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http://curlysurmudgeon.com/documents/bush_lies.txt
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| User: "Guardenman" |
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| Title: Re: Happy 4th, About the DOI |
11 Jul 2005 06:00:07 PM |
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"Curly Surmudgeon" <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
news:11cfc3mcirjop18@corp.supernews.com...
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:57:30 -0800, Dana wrote:
<buckeyeelo@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:drvac1h43kk2rluoivm3ph0r3b711d5b7o@4ax.com...
* Jefferson's Declaration of Independence did not use the word
"Creator"
The DOI written by Jefferson says you are a liar.
How can that be when buckeye wasn't even born yet?
Is there a hidden clause in there somewhere that has escaped the attention
of millions over 229 years that says, "Buckeye is a liar"? Was this a
hidden, encrypted, passage that only Masons can read? Or Rosicrucians?
Or did you get a direct message across time via a wormhole?
How about reading the draft of the DOI that Jefferson wrote. It in fact does
not use the word creator. That was added to the final version.
What planet are you from?
-- Regards, Curly
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http://curlysurmudgeon.com/documents/bush_lies.txt
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