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Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength? If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago. On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory. "[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
The trouble with these damning declamations of defeat is that the
surge had not yet reached full strength. We know Congressional
Democrats say they oppose preemptive war, but apparently they endorse
preemptive surrender.
Shortly after being seated in January, the new Democratic Congress
voted, without dissent, to approve Lt. General David H. Petraeus as
general in charge of Iraq. In his testimony, Petraeus specified he
would preside over a new military option: a "surge" of 21,500 new
troops to Iraq. Soldiers would begin deploying in the winter, but the
full 21,500 would not arrive until June 15.
In June, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver
acknowledged, "Everyone is here on the ground now, but obviously the
troops that have just got here are going to take some time to
integrate into their battle space and get to know their counterparts."
He estimated that process would take 30-60 days, meaning the surge
would not be at full strength until...now.
So, Happy Surge Day!
From this day forward, we can begin judging the success or failure of
the surge. And so far, the progress is stunning. Major attacks, such
as truck bombs, have fallen by 50 percent since the beginning of the
surge. Major General William Caldwell reported in first month of the
surge, "there has been an over 50 percent reduction in murders and
executions," and the number of civilian deaths declined from 1,440 to
265. This time frame witnessed a dramatic reduction of Shi'ite death
squads, the arrest of 700 Sadr-aligned guerrilla leaders, and the
detention of more than a thousand more. As the strategy progressed,
Sunnis began actively turning against and fighting al-Qaeda cells in
their territories. General David Petraeus recounted the military had
killed or apprehended hundreds of al-Qaeda leaders in July alone. Two
harsh critics of the war noted by August, "the Sunni sheiks there are
close to crippling al-Qaeda and its Salafist allies." In an area that
once harbored these cells, this is no small turn of events. As of two
weeks ago, some 25,000 Sunnis had aligned themselves against al-Qaeda,
most since the surge began. One commander called this "a tectonic
shift."
It could not have come at a better time, or against a more potent
enemy. As even the New York Times has had to acknowledge, the number
one threat facing American soldiers is not the Mahdi Army (which has
been remarkably quiet since January), nor sectarian violence (which
the Left continually dubs "a civil war"); it is al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Moreover, the Times quoted an intelligence report that AQI considers
"the sectarian war for Baghdad as the necessary main focus of its
operations." More evidence surfaced last month in a story the
mainstream media shrugged off: a senior al-Qaeda in Iraq operative
confessed he acts as a conduit between al-Qaeda in Iraq and terrorist
leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. Gen. Petraeus had
testified the Afghanistan-based leadership remains in contact with
AQI, directing its movements. (Of course, the infamous intercepted
letter from al-Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri to deceased AQI leader Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi confirmed this in October of 2005.) Last month's
confession was but one of several proofs that we were fighting the
same organization in Iraq that attacked us on 9/11.
....Well, some of us are.
The Pelosi-Reid letter advocated a "phased redeployment of our troops
from Iraq so that Iraqis could take responsibility for their own
security." However, it acknowledged "after years of effort," Iraqi
forces remained "uneven in their quality and reliability." Withdrawal
would mean an ill-equipped, insufficiently trained army, with an
unreliable political leadership, would face a well-financed
international terrorist cadre rushing in to fill the failed state we
left behind. Not that Barack Obama cares about any of this.
Gen. Petraeus is to report on the surge's progress in mid-September.
This gives the troops approximately six weeks to do their job. Reid,
Pelosi, et. al, were willing to give UN inspectors an infinite amount
of time to "do their job," which they apparently believed was to comb
every grain of sand in Iraq for traces of WMDs. However, they have
given our soldiers only a month, and they already dubbed that effort a
failure, setting up an inevitable funding showdown on Capitol Hill.
(One antiwar Congressman has referred to this as "D-Day," an odd
metaphor, since on D-Day Americans were rushing into a battle.) If
Reid has his way, this will mean unilateral withdrawal within months,
handing Abu Musab al-Zarqawi a delightful memorial.
Harry Reid declared this war - a war at the central front of the War
on Terror - lost four months ago. Unless the citizens of the United
States are willing to give, that may become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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21 Aug 2007 09:39:43 AM |
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187695405.474442.133860@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Happy Surge Day!
The recruiter is happy you decided to join your fellow murdering scum and go
to Baghdad and rape some muslim kids.
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21 Aug 2007 06:54:10 AM |
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Kurt Nicklas <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:1187695405.474442.133860@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength? If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago. On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory. "[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
The trouble with these damning declamations of defeat is that the
surge had not yet reached full strength. We know Congressional
Democrats say they oppose preemptive war, but apparently they endorse
preemptive surrender.
Shortly after being seated in January, the new Democratic Congress
voted, without dissent, to approve Lt. General David H. Petraeus as
general in charge of Iraq. In his testimony, Petraeus specified he
would preside over a new military option: a "surge" of 21,500 new
troops to Iraq. Soldiers would begin deploying in the winter, but the
full 21,500 would not arrive until June 15.
In June, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver
acknowledged, "Everyone is here on the ground now, but obviously the
troops that have just got here are going to take some time to
integrate into their battle space and get to know their counterparts."
He estimated that process would take 30-60 days, meaning the surge
would not be at full strength until...now.
So, Happy Surge Day!
Yes, peace and prosperity is breaking out
all over Iraq, ain't it..................
08/21/2007
Second Iraqi Governor Assassinated In 10 Days
On Monday, a roadside bomb killed the governor of Muthanna
province, Mohammed Ali al-Hassani. He was traveling from his
home in Rumaitha to the capital of the province, Samawah, when
a roadside bomb went off next to his car, in the nine car
convoy.
One of the governor's bodyguards was also killed in blast.
Previously, the governor of Iraq's province of Qadisiyah was
assassinated by a roadside bomb on August 11.
Monday also came with at least a dozen deaths in Baghdad, a car
bomb in Sadr City killed five and injured 20 others. Another car
bomb exploded near the enterance to the Justice Ministry killing
another 7.
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=64402
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21 Aug 2007 07:12:02 AM |
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Sadr claims credit for imminent British pullout from Basra
Tue Aug 21, 3:49 AM ET
NAJAF, Iraq, (AFP) - Radical Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr
congratulated his supporters on Tuesday for the imminent withdrawal of
British forces from the southern city of Basra.
The troops are due to leave their last base in Basra and move to an
airbase outside the city in the coming weeks, after coming under daily
mortar and rocket bombardment from local Shiite militias.
Last August when British troops left their base in the southern town
of Amara it was immediately looted by local citizens and Sadr's Mahdi
Army militia held a small-scale victory parade.
Now, his Shiite militia fighters are among the strongest opponents of
US and British forces in Iraq, and have taken the lead in the daily
attacks against British bases and convoys in Basra.
Sadr called for unity among Iraqis and demanded foreign forces leave.
"Finally, I renew our demand for the occupier to get out of Iraq and
to set a timetable for that approved by the Iraqi people. No one has
the right to extend their stay," his statement said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070821/wl_mideast_afp/iraqunrestbritain;_ylt=ArEQDqzbC5Kbt0aJjsr3vW8E1vAI
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Kurt Nicklas" |
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21 Aug 2007 10:46:07 AM |
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On Aug 21, 7:54 am, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:
Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:1187695405.474442.133860@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength? If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago. On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory. "[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
The trouble with these damning declamations of defeat is that the
surge had not yet reached full strength. We know Congressional
Democrats say they oppose preemptive war, but apparently they endorse
preemptive surrender.
Shortly after being seated in January, the new Democratic Congress
voted, without dissent, to approve Lt. General David H. Petraeus as
general in charge of Iraq. In his testimony, Petraeus specified he
would preside over a new military option: a "surge" of 21,500 new
troops to Iraq. Soldiers would begin deploying in the winter, but the
full 21,500 would not arrive until June 15.
In June, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver
acknowledged, "Everyone is here on the ground now, but obviously the
troops that have just got here are going to take some time to
integrate into their battle space and get to know their counterparts."
He estimated that process would take 30-60 days, meaning the surge
would not be at full strength until...now.
So, Happy Surge Day!
Yes, peace and prosperity is breaking out
all over Iraq, ain't it..................
You Leftwing CRACKERS just CAN'T stomach news of progress in IRAQ!
Major attacks decline in Iraq
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-08-12-lede13_N.htm
By Jim Michaels, USA TODAY
The number of truck bombs and other large al-Qaeda-style attacks in
Iraq have declined nearly 50% since the United States started
increasing troop levels in Iraq about six months ago, according to the
U.S. military command in Iraq.
The high-profile attacks - generally large bombs hitting markets,
mosques or other "soft" targets that produce mass casualties - have
dropped to about 70 in July from a high during the past year of about
130 in March, according to the Multi-National Force - Iraq.
Military officers say the decline reflects progress in damaging al-
Qaeda's networks in Iraq. The military has launched offensives around
Baghdad aimed at al-Qaeda sanctuaries and bases.
"The enemy had the initiative and the momentum in '06," said Jack
Keane, a retired general who is a chief architect of the increase in
troop levels and mentor to Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander
in Iraq. "We've got it now."
Al-Qaeda militants generally attempt large, headline-grabbing
incidents aimed at symbolic targets or mass casualties. Al-Qaeda in
Iraq, for example, claimed responsibility for the April suicide bomb
attack on parliament.
Successes against al-Qaeda have also been helped by shifting Sunni
public opinion and a growing number of insurgent defections, the
military says.
"Tribes and people are starting to stand up and fight back," said
Brig. Gen. Mick Bednarek, deputy commander of the U.S. division north
of Baghdad. "They are turning against al-Qaeda."
Some of the groups have provided intelligence on their former al-Qaeda
allies, Lt. Col. Rick Welch, a staff officer who works with tribes,
has said.
The increased security in many neighborhoods has also prompted more
civilians to come forth with tips, officers said. The U.S. military
gets 23,000 tips per month from Iraqis, four times more than last
year, said Army Col. Ralph Baker, a former brigade commander in Iraq
now assigned to the Pentagon.
Petraeus, who will give his assessment of the boost in troop levels in
mid-September, said hundreds of al-Qaeda leaders have been killed or
captured in the past month. He cautioned that al-Qaeda still has the
"ability to carry out sensational attacks."
Al-Qaeda is generally behind the massive publicity-seeking attacks,
but much of the sectarian violence and attacks on coalition forces is
the work of Shiite militias, according to the U.S. military.
Violence from Shiite militias remains strong in some areas. In
Baghdad, attacks from powerful armor-piercing roadside bombs, called
explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, increased to 35 in July from
an average of 23 per month between March and June, said Maj. Steven
Lamb, a spokesman for the U.S. division in Baghdad.
The U.S. military says the EFPs are supplied by Iran primarily to
Shiite militias. Iran has denied the allegation.
Targeting militias has proved more sensitive than attacking al-Qaeda,
since Iraq's Shiite-dominated government draws some of its support
from Muqtada al-Sadr, the anti-American Shiite cleric whose followers
form one of Iraq's largest militias.
In the past, the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had
sometimes blocked or criticized U.S. raids in Shiite strongholds. U.S.
officers say that kind of interference has diminished. Petraeus said
coalition and Iraqi forces have made inroads against Shiite extremist
groups.
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"Why is the Bridge To Nowhere a legitimate defense
budget item...?"
----------- Mitchell Holoman, May 22, 2007
{and after I rubbed his nose in this for a couple of
months, we have this:}
" OK, Republican Senator Stevens stuck his ...
Bridge to Nowhere in a transporation bill. Satisfied?"
----------------- Mitchell Holman, July 25, 2007
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| User: "Chico Samooza" |
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21 Aug 2007 02:08:48 PM |
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Get your ***** over to Iraq or shut the ***** up.
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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21 Aug 2007 05:09:02 PM |
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"Chico Samooza" <ColdBush@CrawfordRanch.net> wrote in news:4LGyi.50258
$YL5.3208@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Get your ***** over to Iraq or shut the ***** up.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Congress's lone Iraq war vet backs Obama
Freshman US Representative Patrick Murphy of Pennsylvania,
the only member of Congress to serve in the Iraq war, has
endorsed Barack Obama for president. Murphy told reporters
in a conference call this morning that his experience
serving with the Army's 82nd Airborne Division in Baghdad
showed him that America needed a new war strategy and foreign
policy.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/08/congresss_l
one.html
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| User: "Kurt Nicklas" |
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21 Aug 2007 05:20:43 PM |
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On Aug 21, 6:09 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:
"Chico Samooza" <ColdB...@CrawfordRanch.net> wrote in news:4LGyi.50258
$YL5.3...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Get your ***** over to Iraq or shut the ***** up.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Congress's lone Iraq war vet backs Obama
Congress's Mrs Bill Clinton says surge is making progress, HOLLOWMAN.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293927,00.html
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On Monday, Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton appeared
before the Veterans of Foreign Wars and added her voice to the mix of
those who say the U.S. military's troop surge is having positive
results.
Clinton tempered her remarks to the annual convention of the VFW with
an admonition for the Iraqi government, which she described as being
"on vacation" while American troops battle in the middle of a
sectarian war.
Clinton, a 2008 presidential candidate, noted that progress is being
made militarily in Iraq because of the surge, but that American troops
alone cannot impose a solution to Iraq's myriad internal problems.
....
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Apples.
Tree.
Falling.
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| User: "Chico Samooza" |
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21 Aug 2007 06:44:49 PM |
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187734843.956001.271880@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 21, 6:09 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:
"Chico Samooza" <ColdB...@CrawfordRanch.net> wrote in news:4LGyi.50258
$YL5.3...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Get your ***** over to Iraq or shut the ***** up.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Congress's lone Iraq war vet backs Obama
Congress's Mrs Bill Clinton says surge is making progress, HOLLOWMAN.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293927,00.html
i'm sure you've put your time in iraq mr young repub?.....lol..stay the
course..i bet you clowns repeat that battle cry in your sleep WITH FOX NEWS
BLABBERING AND RATTLING THE SABERS.
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22 Aug 2007 08:27:02 AM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
On Aug 21, 6:09 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:
"Chico Samooza" <ColdB...@CrawfordRanch.net> wrote in
news:4LGyi.50258 $YL5.3...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Get your ***** over to Iraq or shut the ***** up.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Congress's lone Iraq war vet backs Obama
Congress's Mrs Bill Clinton says surge is making progress, HOLLOWMAN.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293927,00.html
Knickers vectors another Faux News lie! How surprising!
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21 Aug 2007 11:59:54 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:46:07 -0700, in alt.atheism , Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> in
<1187711167.041696.302090@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[snip]
You Leftwing CRACKERS just CAN'T stomach news of progress in IRAQ!
Like how July saw a decrease in American deaths? (Ignoring that
American deaths in Iraq have dropped every July.)
Major attacks decline in Iraq
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-08-12-lede13_N.htm
By Jim Michaels, USA TODAY
The number of truck bombs and other large al-Qaeda-style attacks in
Iraq have declined nearly 50% since the United States started
increasing troop levels in Iraq about six months ago, according to the
U.S. military command in Iraq.
The high-profile attacks - generally large bombs hitting markets,
mosques or other "soft" targets that produce mass casualties - have
dropped to about 70 in July from a high during the past year of about
130 in March, according to the Multi-National Force - Iraq.
And, yet, the largest attack happened since then as did the killing of
a governor.
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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21 Aug 2007 07:14:35 AM |
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On Aug 21, 7:23 am, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength? If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago. On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory. "[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
Want to take a walk on a street some were in Iraq, alone, unarmored?
Yeah, thats right, you don't. You'd be dead in 30 sec.
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| User: "jcon" |
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21 Aug 2007 08:43:48 AM |
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On Aug 21, 7:14 am, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:23 am, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Here are the military casualty figures since the beginning of the
invasion:
http://icasualties.org/oif_a/CasualtyTrends.htm
I'm sure everyone can see the dramatic effect of the "surge".
-jc
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength? If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago. On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory. "[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
Want to take a walk on a street some were in Iraq, alone, unarmored?
Yeah, thats right, you don't. You'd be dead in 30 sec.
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21 Aug 2007 08:46:59 AM |
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A FORMER top soldier has told the Tories to come "off the fence" about
Iraq and call for the withdrawal of British troops.
General Sir Michael Rose, former UN commander in Bosnia, said Iraq was
"unwinnable" and called for forces to be redirected to Afghanistan.
He told an audience at the Edinburgh International Book Festival that
the fact the Government had used false information to launch the
invasion of Iraq meant there was no longer any need for opposition
politicians to back it.
He said: "The more people speak out the better. The Conservatives
mistakenly supported the war in Iraq, now they must come off the
fence."
Sir Michael also repeated his call for former Prime Minister Tony
Blair to be held to account for the war in Iraq.
He said: "I think there should be a full and open inquiry within
parliament for the Iraq war. For Tony Blair to go walking off into the
sunset with the prospect of selling his memoirs is absurd."
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1034&id=1326092007
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21 Aug 2007 09:13:47 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:43:48 -0700, in alt.atheism , jcon
<cirejcon@yahoo.com> in
<1187703828.622377.310300@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:14 am, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:23 am, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Here are the military casualty figures since the beginning of the
invasion:
http://icasualties.org/oif_a/CasualtyTrends.htm
I'm sure everyone can see the dramatic effect of the "surge".
The surge just got started and has already been a success for months.
And the drop of U.S. deaths in July means the surge is working, now if
we can only ensure that Iraq only has Julys.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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21 Aug 2007 07:31:06 AM |
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On Aug 21, 8:14 am, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:23 am, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Want to take a walk on a street some were in Iraq, alone, unarmored?
Yeah, thats right, you don't. You'd be dead in 30 sec.
I'd like to see a bunch of tour buses full of Bushies in Iraq.
Sadr claims credit for imminent British pullout from Basra
Tue Aug 21, 3:49 AM ET
NAJAF, Iraq, (AFP) - Radical Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr
congratulated his supporters on Tuesday for the imminent withdrawal of
British forces from the southern city of Basra.
The troops are due to leave their last base in Basra and move to an
airbase outside the city in the coming weeks, after coming under daily
mortar and rocket bombardment from local Shiite militias.
Last August when British troops left their base in the southern town
of Amara it was immediately looted by local citizens and Sadr's Mahdi
Army militia held a small-scale victory parade.
Now, his Shiite militia fighters are among the strongest opponents of
US and British forces in Iraq, and have taken the lead in the daily
attacks against British bases and convoys in Basra.
Sadr called for unity among Iraqis and demanded foreign forces leave.
"Finally, I renew our demand for the occupier to get out of Iraq and
to set a timetable for that approved by the Iraqi people. No one has
the right to extend their stay," his statement said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070821/wl_mideast_afp/iraqunrestbritain;_ylt=ArEQDqzbC5Kbt0aJjsr3vW8E1vAI
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21 Aug 2007 10:48:26 AM |
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On Aug 21, 8:31 am, Pope-About-Town <banzai38...@mypacks.net> wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:14 am, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:23 am, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Want to take a walk on a street some were in Iraq, alone, unarmored?
Yeah, thats right, you don't. You'd be dead in 30 sec.
I'd like to see a bunch of tour buses full of Bushies in Iraq.
A Johnny Asia Insurgent gets a surprise while firing a mortar:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: #Happy Surge Day, Lefties! |
21 Aug 2007 09:11:26 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:23:25 -0700, in alt.atheism , Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> in
<1187695405.474442.133860@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Happy Surge Day!
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/21/2007
Did you know the surge in Iraq just reached full strength?
Is the Army really in such a bad situation that it took 6 months to
provide so few reinforcements?
If not,
you're not alone. Congressional leadership declared it a failure four
months ago.
How long had it been going on at that point?
On April 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "this
war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything." He added
he felt no remorse for calling the troops losers while they continued
to fight for victory.
He did not call them losers, but Shrub shows no remorse at causing the
lose.
"[M]y conscience is great," he said (which
speaks volumes about his conscience). On June 13, the other side of
the Capitol chimed in. Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (my
hands tremble at the very words) co-signed a letter to President Bush,
stating, "As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce
the intended results."
The trouble with these damning declamations of defeat is that the
surge had not yet reached full strength. We know Congressional
Democrats say they oppose preemptive war, but apparently they endorse
preemptive surrender.
So we had a "surge" that took 6 months, six months of scrounging for
troops. Meanwhile the enemy saw our plans and strolled out of the way.
Shortly after being seated in January, the new Democratic Congress
voted, without dissent, to approve Lt. General David H. Petraeus as
general in charge of Iraq. In his testimony, Petraeus specified he
would preside over a new military option: a "surge" of 21,500 new
troops to Iraq. Soldiers would begin deploying in the winter, but the
full 21,500 would not arrive until June 15.
6 months to move 22K troops. Are they incompetent or are there just
not enough troops around?
In June, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver
acknowledged, "Everyone is here on the ground now, but obviously the
troops that have just got here are going to take some time to
integrate into their battle space and get to know their counterparts."
He estimated that process would take 30-60 days, meaning the surge
would not be at full strength until...now.
2 months to get to know their counterparts? Do we really move that
slow? Why do you approve of such inability?
So, Happy Surge Day!
S
From this day forward, we can begin judging the success or failure of
the surge. And so far, the progress is stunning. Major attacks, such
as truck bombs, have fallen by 50 percent since the beginning of the
surge.
The largest attacks have occurred since the surge. But count numbers
of attacks, that seems better. Oh, and only 1 governor has been blown
up since the beginning of the surge, good work.
Major General William Caldwell reported in first month of the
surge, "there has been an over 50 percent reduction in murders and
executions," and the number of civilian deaths declined from 1,440 to
265. This time frame witnessed a dramatic reduction of Shi'ite death
squads, the arrest of 700 Sadr-aligned guerrilla leaders, and the
detention of more than a thousand more. As the strategy progressed,
Sunnis began actively turning against and fighting al-Qaeda cells in
their territories. General David Petraeus recounted the military had
killed or apprehended hundreds of al-Qaeda leaders in July alone. Two
harsh critics of the war noted by August, "the Sunni sheiks there are
close to crippling al-Qaeda and its Salafist allies." In an area that
once harbored these cells, this is no small turn of events. As of two
weeks ago, some 25,000 Sunnis had aligned themselves against al-Qaeda,
most since the surge began. One commander called this "a tectonic
shift."
Since the surge the Sunnis have left the government.
It could not have come at a better time, or against a more potent
enemy. As even the New York Times has had to acknowledge, the number
one threat facing American soldiers is not the Mahdi Army (which has
been remarkably quiet since January),
And that does not worry you? You don't see some connection between
taking 6 months to move 22K soldiers and a major organized faction
getting out of the way?
nor sectarian violence (which
the Left continually dubs "a civil war"); it is al-Qaeda in Iraq.
A force that did not exist until we invaded.
[snip]
Gen. Petraeus is to report on the surge's progress in mid-September.
This gives the troops approximately six weeks to do their job.
Then he was an idiot for promising a report, wasn't he?
Reid,
Pelosi, et. al, were willing to give UN inspectors an infinite amount
of time to "do their job," which they apparently believed was to comb
every grain of sand in Iraq for traces of WMDs.
And finding none because there were none. You think their job was to
find WMDs whether or not they were there.
[snip]
Harry Reid declared this war - a war at the central front of the War
on Terror - lost four months ago. Unless the citizens of the United
States are willing to give, that may become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Nope, it was lost when we attacked, and really screwed up when we set
up an occupation, disbanded the army, and left all those weapons
around for people to take.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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