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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "FlashPoint"
Date: 01 Mar 2006 08:00:44 AM
Object: Hard Choices
We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn. Others
feel just as strongly that women have authority over their own bodies
and should decide such a matter for themselves. Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality. Others
believe these practices are a matter of personal choice. Who is to say
who is right and who is wrong? If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.
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User: "Conspiracy of Doves"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 08:49:33 AM
FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.

You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?
.
User: "Chris Johnson"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 03 Mar 2006 10:40:33 AM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?

Check the newsgroups and email. This is Jabriol.
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?emlyqW9u?="

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 08:56:12 AM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?

Quite simple
no God
no Morals
Morality was devlop by religion.
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User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 12:55:24 PM
"zirŠon" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?


Quite simple

no God
no Morals

Morality was devlop by religion.

Sold your daughter into slavery yet?
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User: "R. Nunnely"

Title: Re: Hard Choices - Crossposting TROLL ALERT 01 Mar 2006 03:08:13 PM
PLEASE remove all the unrelated cross-posted groups this well known
nyn-shifting troll keeps adding to these threads. He's only starting these
threads to harass the pond and aquarium groups. He has no interest in what
you have to say.
Thank you!
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:

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User: "William T. Goat"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 02:58:53 PM
zir=A9on wrote:

Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?


Quite simple

no God
no Morals

Morality was devlop by religion.

"Unless a man HATES his father, and mother, and wife, and children,
and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my
disciple." --Christ's version of family values, Luke 14:26
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me." --Christ's version of peace,
Luke 19:27
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women
children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for
yourselves." --God's moral values, Exodus 31:17-18
--Billy
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User: "Conspiracy of Doves"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 10:31:14 AM
zir=A9on wrote:

Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?


Quite simple

no God
no Morals

Morality was devlop by religion.

No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group. Basic morals are
neccessary for a community to survive. Those communities that didn't
develop morals, didn't survive. Simple natural selection. Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?emlyqW9u?="

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 11:12:18 AM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.

You describe instincts not morals.

Basic morals are
neccessary for a community to survive. Those communities that didn't
develop morals, didn't survive. Simple natural selection

Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.

ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 01:33:04 PM
"zirŠon" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.


Yes? Morality comes from the survival instinct.
If you kill members of your own group you will cast out - and you'll die
if you steal you'll be cast out from your group and you will die. Two
perfectly good reasons not to do either and nothing to do with religion.

Basic morals are
neccessary for a community to survive. Those communities that didn't
develop morals, didn't survive. Simple natural selection


Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.

Polar Bears are generally lone creatures they don't require a community to
survive. Humans do.

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.


ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?

Who are "they"?
Religious people are big on stoning
In fact your bible tells you to:
Stone rape victims for n ot screaming loud enough
Stone people who don't follow christianity
Stone people for blasphemy
Stone psychics
Stone people who work on the sabbath
Stone disobedient children
Stone theives
Stone oxes for goring people
Stone people for touching mount Sinai
Kill Children who hit their parents
Kill people for commiting adultery
Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father
And of course if religion makes you moral why are so many believers in
prison?
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User: "Sharkvriol"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 04 Mar 2006 10:00:33 AM
kathryn wrote:

"zir=A9on" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141233138.528543.193460@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...


Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.



Yes? Morality comes from the survival instinct.

If you kill members of your own group you will cast out - and you'll die

I don't see that done with other animals..

if you steal you'll be cast out from your group and you will die.

I don't see that done with other animals..


Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.


Polar Bears are generally lone creatures they don't require a community to
survive. Humans do.

why?

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.


ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?


Who are "they"?

Religious people are big on stoning

In fact your bible tells you to:

Stone rape victims for not screaming loud enough

where?

Stone people who don't follow christianity

where?


Kill Children who hit their parents

that a good thing...

Kill people for commiting adultery

that a good thing

Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father

incest is a good thing?


.
User: "friendlyostrich"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 06 Mar 2006 01:14:01 PM

Kill Children who hit their parents

that a good thing...

Indefensible

Kill people for commiting adultery

that a good thing

Indefensible

Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father

incest is a good thing?

the operative word being "kill."
Indefensible
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User: "Koi-Lo"

Title: Re: Hard Choices - Proof Jehovah's Witnesses believe in STONING people to death 04 Mar 2006 11:35:33 AM
Proof Jehovah's Witnesses still believe in STONING people to death (and
don't do it because it's now against the law and they will go to prison.)
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"zirŠon" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.



Yes? Morality comes from the survival instinct.

If you kill members of your own group you will cast out - and you'll die

I don't see that done with other animals..

if you steal you'll be cast out from your group and you will die.

I don't see that done with other animals..


Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.


Polar Bears are generally lone creatures they don't require a community to
survive. Humans do.

why?

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.


ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?


Who are "they"?

Religious people are big on stoning

In fact your bible tells you to:

Stone rape victims for not screaming loud enough

where?

Stone people who don't follow christianity

where?


Kill Children who hit their parents

that a good thing...

Kill people for commiting adultery

that a good thing

Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father

incest is a good thing?


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User: "Sharkvriol"

Title: A cheap56k thread:Re: Hard Choices - Proof Jehovah's Witnesses believe in STONING people to death 04 Mar 2006 12:06:00 PM
More of Carol harrasment of JW's and this is why news groups are being
destroyed.
Koi-Lo wrote:

Proof Jehovah's Witnesses still believe in STONING people to death (and
don't do it because it's now against the law and they will go to prison.)

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From: "Sharkvriol" <javriol@gmail.com>JABRIOL a Jehovah's Witness
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kathryn wrote:

"zir=A9on" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.



Yes? Morality comes from the survival instinct.

If you kill members of your own group you will cast out - and you'll d=

ie


I don't see that done with other animals..

if you steal you'll be cast out from your group and you will die.



I don't see that done with other animals..



Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.


Polar Bears are generally lone creatures they don't require a community=

to

survive. Humans do.


why?

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not t=

he

only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.


ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?


Who are "they"?

Religious people are big on stoning

In fact your bible tells you to:

Stone rape victims for not screaming loud enough


where?

Stone people who don't follow christianity


where?


Kill Children who hit their parents


that a good thing...

Kill people for commiting adultery


that a good thing

Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father


incest is a good thing?




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User: "Richard Sexton"

Title: Re: A cheap56k thread:Re: Hard Choices - Proof Jehovah's Witnesses believe in STONING people to death 04 Mar 2006 01:02:37 PM
In article <1141495560.896691.324060@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Sharkvriol <javriol@gmail.com> wrote:

More of Carol harrasment of JW's and this is why news groups are being
destroyed.

Oh yeah. That's what Jesus would do.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled "kill a newsgroup for Christ"
programme.
Hypocrite.
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User: ""

Title: Time to block list Cheap56k fro allowing spam from their server: A cheap56k thread:Re: Hard Choices - Proof Jehovah's Witnesses believe in STONING people to death 04 Mar 2006 12:14:57 PM
Sharkvriol wrote:

More of Carol harrasment of JW's and this is why news groups are being
destroyed.

Koi-Lo wrote:

Proof Jehovah's Witnesses still believe in STONING people to death (and
don't do it because it's now against the law and they will go to prison=

..)


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kathryn wrote:

"zir=A9on" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.



Yes? Morality comes from the survival instinct.

If you kill members of your own group you will cast out - and you'll=

die


I don't see that done with other animals..

if you steal you'll be cast out from your group and you will die.



I don't see that done with other animals..



Polar bears are doing quite nicely. You are confusing Morals with
instincts.


Polar Bears are generally lone creatures they don't require a communi=

ty to

survive. Humans do.


why?

Religion may
have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not=

the

only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.


ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did
that law help with a community survival?


Who are "they"?

Religious people are big on stoning

In fact your bible tells you to:

Stone rape victims for not screaming loud enough


where?

Stone people who don't follow christianity


where?


Kill Children who hit their parents


that a good thing...

Kill people for commiting adultery


that a good thing

Kill not only the woman who had sex but also her father


incest is a good thing?




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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: A cheap56k thread:Re: Hard Choices - Proof Jehovah's Witnesses believe in STONING people to death 04 Mar 2006 05:10:12 PM
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sharkvriol" <javriol@gmail.com>
posting the following on 4 Mar 2006 10:06:00 -0800 iin alt.atheism?

More of Carol harrasment of JW's and this is why news groups are being
destroyed.

After years of being harrassed by JW losers, I see it as sweet
revenge.
alt.aquaria and rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc snipped.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 06:02:19 PM
In <1141233138.528543.193460@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, on 03/01/06
at 09:12 AM, "zirŠon" <Xabriol@gmail.com> said:

have been the first to actually write down a definition of morality
(MAY have been the first, I don't know that it was), but it is not the
only thing capable of doing so. And if I may say so, religion did a
pretty crappy job of defining morality.

ok sherlock why were queers stone to death in ancients days, how did that
law help with a community survival?

They weren't in all cultures - the Romans and Greeks had no problem with
homosexuals. Roman civilization didn't go downhill until Christianity
took root.
Alan
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 01:38:02 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet zirŠon (Xabriol@gmail.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:


Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.


No, actually morality evolved. Even some animals have a form of
morality: don't kill members of your own group.


You describe instincts not morals.

What do you think morals are, dumbass? A set of rules that keep you from
doing what you would normally do without them? If so, we need to weed
people like you out of our society.
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chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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User: "Cat-Kleaner"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 02 Mar 2006 06:11:58 PM
Jabriol isn't interested in a discussion. He's using the cross-posting
method of noise to wipe out several ngs with other people's cross-posting
help.
How about removing any aquarium and pond groups in your reply to this troll?
Thanks.
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"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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zirŠon (JABRIOL) wrote:

Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:

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User: "Raoul Ramone"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 12:53:50 PM
zir=A9on wrote:

Morality was devlop by religion.

Well, at least you realize it was created by humans, rather than by
some god-thingy. That's a good start!
I hope you feel better soon!
RR
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User: "Larry Blanchard"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 04:46:50 PM
zirŠon wrote:

Quite simple

no God
no Morals

Morality was devlop by religion.

Apparently spelling wasn't.
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 08:55:18 AM
On 1 Mar 2006 06:49:33 -0800, "Conspiracy of Doves"
<mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote:


FlashPoint wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?

He was just being an in-your-face nasty piece of *****.
For some reason "polite society" allows and even encourages bigoted
assholes like him, and expects us to put up with it.
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User: "R. Nunnely"

Title: Re: Hard Choices - TROLL ALERT 01 Mar 2006 09:53:48 AM
Please don't feed the troll from ARJ-W. If you must then please remove the
pond and aquaria groups he keeps adding as they're off-topic noise for those
people.
Thanks a bunch!
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"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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FlashPoint JABRIOL wrote:
<snip>

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



You sure have a hell of a lot to learn about atheists, don't you?

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User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 10:17:30 AM
FlashPoint wrote:

If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.

Desperately trying to make atheists say what you want them to say, don't
you?
Atheism has nothing whatsoever to say either pro or con morals. In fact, the
concept of morals itself is completely independent of belief or nonbelief
in any kind of higher power.
BTW, attempt to make people troll over to certain other newsgroups noted and
ignored.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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User: "wildbluskies"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 03:26:02 PM
FlashPoint wrote:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn.

That is exactly what it is, murder, Godless atheism is responsible for
perpetuating this crime.

Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality.
If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.

This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries
such as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for
believing in God. Its high time atheists in america get the same
treatment. A hard choice, yes it is.
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User: "R. Nunnely"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 04:11:39 PM
"wildbluskies" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141248362.591792.237500@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries
such as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for
believing in God. Its high time atheists in america get the same
treatment. A hard choice, yes it is.

================================
You never heard of the Crusades? Burning witches at the stake? The
Inquisition? The slaughter of the American Indian so- called godless
"savages?" More people died in the name of your god than ever died in the
name of atheism. Here's your god's idea of "thou shalt not kill."
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me." --Christ's version of peace,
Luke 19:27
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women
children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for
yourselves." --God's moral values, Exodus 31:17-18
And please remove the aquarium groups as this is off-topic for them.
--
Nu.............
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not
based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."
~ Carl Sagan ~
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User: ""

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 06:04:31 PM
In <1141248362.591792.237500@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, on 03/01/06
at 01:26 PM, "wildbluskies" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> said:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn.

That is exactly what it is, murder, Godless atheism is responsible for
perpetuating this crime.

Funny, the Original Testament doesn't ban abortion. At the most, killing
an unborn is treated as a property crime, not as murder.

This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries such
as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for believing in
God. Its high time atheists in america get the same treatment. A hard
choice, yes it is.

Sounds like the way people who follow the "wrong" religions are and were
treated in theocracies. It isn't right in any case.
Alan
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User: "ReelMcKoi"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 05:09:22 PM
bottom posted:
wildbluskies wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn.


That is exactly what it is, murder, Godless atheism is responsible for
perpetuating this crime.

Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality.
If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.


This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries
such as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for
believing in God. Its high time atheists in america get the same
treatment. A hard choice, yes it is.

what are ye smokin?
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User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 05:16:40 PM
On 1 Mar 2006 15:09:22 -0800, "ReelMcKoi" <ReelMckoi@mailinator.com>
wrote:

bottom posted:

wildbluskies wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn.


That is exactly what it is, murder, Godless atheism is responsible for
perpetuating this crime.

Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality.
If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.


This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries
such as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for
believing in God. Its high time atheists in america get the same
treatment. A hard choice, yes it is.



what are ye smokin?

Trolling again?
.


User: "greg"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 01 Mar 2006 07:15:52 PM
wildbluskies wrote:

FlashPoint wrote:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn.



That is exactly what it is, murder, Godless atheism is responsible for
perpetuating this crime.


Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality.
If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.



This is why atheism as a philosophy of life should be outlawed, banned,
shut down, all people who illegal worship a athesitic dogma should be
arrested and put in prison. Further more, they should be thrown out of
america and/or made to convert to theism.
These are trying times for God loving peoples in atheist countries
such as china are persecuted, arrested, tortured, killed just for
believing in God. Its high time atheists in america get the same
treatment. A hard choice, yes it is.

I take it you missed the sermon on tolerance. Then again most religious
fruitcakes do.
The average athiest is so superior to yourself morally that you're not
fit to wipe their arses.


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User: "Chris H. Fleming"

Title: Re: Hard Choices 04 Mar 2006 05:01:24 PM
FlashPoint wrote:

We live in an age of hard choices. Many, for example, are
implacably opposed to abortion, calling it murder of the unborn. Others
feel just as strongly that women have authority over their own bodies
and should decide such a matter for themselves. Many view
homosexuality, adultery, and premarital sex as rank immorality. Others
believe these practices are a matter of personal choice. Who is to say
who is right and who is wrong? If you are an adept of atheism, there
are no such things as morals, all fish in the same aquarium trying to
survive.

You got it brother. When I was an atheist I went around killing people
whenever I felt like it. I musta murdered like a thousand people until
I found jesus.
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