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Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response to Outsiders
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/health/psychology/20ANGE.html?pagewanted=all&position=
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
prejudice
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=prejudice&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
David DeSteno
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22David%20DeSteno%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22David+DeSteno%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=David%20DeSteno&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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20 Apr 2004 07:13:44 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:35:15 +0000 (UTC), (maff)
wrote:
Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response to Outsiders
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/health/psychology/20ANGE.html?pagewanted=all&position=
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this. That's
the definition of (thus reason behind) the word 'scapegoat,' isn't it?
prejudice
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=prejudice&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=prejudice&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
David DeSteno
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22David%20DeSteno%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22David+DeSteno%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=David%20DeSteno&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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Sev
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| User: "James Young" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
20 Apr 2004 08:35:29 AM |
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Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
26 Apr 2004 02:31:03 PM |
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James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
Actually, someone did a study on that ;) They found that, when
presented with various psychological research findings, most people
claimed that they already knew that, it was obvious etc. The
interesting thing was that the "findings" presented were in fact the
exact opposite of the real research findings...
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| User: "Kaiser Wilhelm III" |
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26 Apr 2004 02:52:50 PM |
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"anne marie hovgaard" <amhovgaard@yahoo.no> wrote in message
news:705782b9.0404261134.a6d670e@posting.google.com...
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
Actually, someone did a study on that ;) They found that, when
presented with various psychological research findings, most people
claimed that they already knew that, it was obvious etc. The
interesting thing was that the "findings" presented were in fact the
exact opposite of the real research findings...
Oh yeah, that's a big problem with psychological research. Not just what
you point out, but more generally, no matter what you say, people will say
"oh, we knew that already". "Common sense" is a fun thing. For example,
are people more attracted by sameness or by difference? "Birds of a feather
flock together" vs "opposites attract". Or how about 'absence makes the
heart grow fonder' vs 'out of sight is out of mind'?
Besides, the point is not just to confirm what we already we expect.... it's
to get some numbers. Once we have a solid idea of what the effect is, we
can test what circumstances vary it, if some factors make it stronger or
weaker, and so on. It's just that those kinds of studies don't get as much
public notice...
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| User: "Steve Schaffner" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
26 Apr 2004 02:59:55 PM |
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(anne marie hovgaard) writes:
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
Actually, someone did a study on that ;) They found that, when
presented with various psychological research findings, most people
claimed that they already knew that, it was obvious etc. The
interesting thing was that the "findings" presented were in fact the
exact opposite of the real research findings...
I knew that.
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Steve Schaffner
Immediate assurance is an excellent sign of probable lack of
insight into the topic. Josiah Royce
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
26 Apr 2004 05:55:38 PM |
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In article <705782b9.0404261134.a6d670e@posting.google.com>,
(anne marie hovgaard) wrote:
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
Actually, someone did a study on that ;) They found that, when
presented with various psychological research findings, most people
claimed that they already knew that, it was obvious etc. The
interesting thing was that the "findings" presented were in fact the
exact opposite of the real research findings...
Please I'd like a reference.
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| User: "John Thomas Grisham" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
20 Apr 2004 01:14:42 PM |
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James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being
moody may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't
that they researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was
funded by a U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research
this?
JTG 4/20/04
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| User: "Dick C" |
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21 Apr 2004 10:47:12 AM |
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John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling
angry at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being
moody may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't
that they researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was
funded by a U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research
this?
Nah, the women in America are too dangerous at that time.
Actually, the way it works is that a scientist applies for a grant to
research something. Or a company will fund a study, but this sounds
more like the former case. So it is not a matter of attmepting to find
someone to do the study, rather it is a matter of the scientist looking
for money to conduct a study.
--
***** #1349
Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:
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| User: "John Thomas Grisham" |
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27 Apr 2004 01:40:07 PM |
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***** C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns94D259B6A8705dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136>...
John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling
angry at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being
moody may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't
that they researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was
funded by a U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research
this?
Nah, the women in America are too dangerous at that time.
Actually, the way it works is that a scientist applies for a grant to
research something. Or a company will fund a study, but this sounds
more like the former case. So it is not a matter of attmepting to find
someone to do the study, rather it is a matter of the scientist looking
for money to conduct a study.
I imagine it would help to have a government official who for a
consideration promises to troubleshoot the process. Oh, no! That would
be wrong, wouldn't it? There's obviously no government corruption
involved in grant monies.
JTG 4/27/04
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| User: "Dick C" |
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28 Apr 2004 11:18:28 AM |
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John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
I imagine it would help to have a government official who for a
consideration promises to troubleshoot the process. Oh, no! That would
be wrong, wouldn't it? There's obviously no government corruption
involved in grant monies.
Why would you think there was corruption?
--
***** #1349
Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:
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| User: "John Thomas Grisham" |
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29 Apr 2004 01:31:33 PM |
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***** C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns94D95F34FEFEAdickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136>...
John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
I imagine it would help to have a government official who for a
consideration promises to troubleshoot the process. Oh, no! That would
be wrong, wouldn't it? There's obviously no government corruption
involved in grant monies.
Why would you think there was corruption?
"No Comment".
JTG 4/29/04
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| User: "Dick C" |
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29 Apr 2004 02:35:29 PM |
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John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
***** C <foo. > wrote in message
news:<Xns94D95F34FEFEAdickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136>...
John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
I imagine it would help to have a government official who for a
consideration promises to troubleshoot the process. Oh, no! That
would be wrong, wouldn't it? There's obviously no government
corruption involved in grant monies.
Why would you think there was corruption?
"No Comment".
Yeah, some people, when they hear the word "government" immediately assume
everyone involved is corrupt. The reality is that there is very little
corruption in our various governments. And there are a lot of people who
spend alot of time looking for it. And it is so relatively rare that it
is a big story when some corruption or dishonesty is found.
--
***** #1349
Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:
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| User: "AC" |
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29 Apr 2004 03:00:46 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:35:29 +0000 (UTC),
***** C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote:
John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
***** C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<Xns94D95F34FEFEAdickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136>...
John Thomas Grisham wrote in talk.origins
I imagine it would help to have a government official who for a
consideration promises to troubleshoot the process. Oh, no! That
would be wrong, wouldn't it? There's obviously no government
corruption involved in grant monies.
Why would you think there was corruption?
"No Comment".
Yeah, some people, when they hear the word "government" immediately assume
everyone involved is corrupt. The reality is that there is very little
corruption in our various governments. And there are a lot of people who
spend alot of time looking for it. And it is so relatively rare that it
is a big story when some corruption or dishonesty is found.
You're responding to a guy who thinks the recent controversy over gay
marriages has actually been manufactured by George W. Bush to draw attention
away from other matters.
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
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| User: "AC" |
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20 Apr 2004 03:13:55 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC),
John Thomas Grisham <jgrisham@scu.k12.ca.us> wrote:
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being
moody may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't
that they researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was
funded by a U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research
this?
Imagine all those silly scientists doing that. To think that anyone
bothered to investigate planetary motions when everyone knows the planets
circle the Earth. Sheesh! What a waste of time.
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
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| User: "Severian" |
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21 Apr 2004 11:12:47 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:13:55 +0000 (UTC), AC
<mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC),
John Thomas Grisham <jgrisham@scu.k12.ca.us> wrote:
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling angry
at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings
of researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being
moody may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't
that they researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was
funded by a U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research
this?
Imagine all those silly scientists doing that. To think that anyone
bothered to investigate planetary motions when everyone knows the planets
circle the Earth. Sheesh! What a waste of time.
Most psychology and sociology studies seem like a waste of time and
money to me... But I suppose they will progress, and I shouldn't be so
harsh.
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Sev
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| User: "Daniel Harper" |
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| Title: Re: Hard-Wired for Prejudice? Experts Examine Human Response toOutsiders |
21 Apr 2004 03:16:51 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:13:55 +0000, AC wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC), John Thomas Grisham
<jgrisham@scu.k12.ca.us> wrote:
James Young <jpyoung2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<75da80ha133ii3onjkljcud91igtaj4jo7@4ax.com>...
Severian <severian@chlamydia-is-not-a-flower.com> wrote:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote:
By NANCY WARTIK
Psychologists investigating the link between emotions and prejudice
are finding it's only a short step from feeling angry to feeling
angry at someone.
I find it hard to believe they needed to do a study about this.
They have to make a living. Never mind that the bulk of the findings of
researchers of mushy sciences are painfully obvious to a grade
schooler.
I think it was a British study that found evidence of women being moody
may be linked to their monthly reproductive cycle. It wasn't that they
researched it that bothered me. It was that the research was funded by a
U.S. grant. We couldn't find anyone in America to research this?
Imagine all those silly scientists doing that. To think that anyone
bothered to investigate planetary motions when everyone knows the planets
circle the Earth. Sheesh! What a waste of time.
I think a useful metaphor for this sort of thing is the cowpox/smallpox
connection that led to the first immunizations. The thing was folklore for
generations, and those old wives would have had every right to complain
that those obtuse scientists just refused to listen to them the whole time
while they "checked out" what the wives already knew. The fact that the
scientists developed a _mechanism_, and that the old wives "knew"
thousands of other things that _weren't_ true doesn't really make a mark,
does it?
Insert your own anti- or pseudoscientific examples from modern "Eastern"
or "traditional" medicine here.
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In the Beginning, was the Command Line...
--Daniel Harper
(change terra to earth for email)
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