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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Peter"
Date: 16 Apr 2006 11:35:45 AM
Object: Has it always been thus
Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the religious
views of christians.
In the last week I have seen (UK Sky) the Judas gospels which dont exactly
plead for the Pope's right to fame,
nor it would seem does it argue that the bible as we know it supports the 2
billion or so adherents to it.
A program called I believe Jesus christ which argues against ressurection
and suggests Jesus was married with 2.4 kids
Disciples... contending that all they did was argue among themselves
Da Vinci.. tho debunking most of the book allows for Jesus to be married or
at least father a child
Pilate... was a strong man ( one who would never have allowed a normal
'burial' for our mate jc)
Dawkins..gets the best out of the unthinking fundies but seems to lose his
own composure.
The shroud... carbon dated to 12/1300 but not good enuf for the TRUE
believers.
Does Sky/Discovery etc have an agenda? I hope they do but I dare say I'll
miss songs of praise.
Peter
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Has it always been thus 16 Apr 2006 09:17:27 PM
"Peter" <p...hayward@nospambtopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:hoadnfHIaMoJ6N_ZnZ2dnUVZ8qOdnZ2d@bt.com...

Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the religious
views of christians.

I don't know and I don't see this as a problem.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Has it always been thus 17 Apr 2006 12:18:23 AM
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:35:45 +0100, "Peter"
<p...hayward@nospambtopenworld.com> wrote:
- Refer: <hoadnfHIaMoJ6N_ZnZ2dnUVZ8qOdnZ2d@bt.com>

Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the religious
views of christians.

:
And this is a "problem"???
I say: About time!
--
Michael Gray
Naivety is a gift for the infant, but disastrous for the adult.
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Has it always been thus 16 Apr 2006 12:47:15 PM
Peter wrote:

Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the
religious views of christians.

<snip>

Does Sky/Discovery etc have an agenda? I hope they do but I dare
say I'll miss songs of praise.

Absolutely they have an agenda, PROFIT.
I've noticed more and more programs over the last few years which deal with
Christianity in a more historical light. Even a lot of the ones that support
some of the beliefs at least ask some questions.
The obvious fundy answer is that the EAC owns the Nielson corporation but I
suspect that mainstream American Christians are far more liberal in their
beliefs than what the people here want us to believe.
More than 72% (147,520) of the people in the Chico and Paradise, CA area
didn't claim a religion in the 2000 census and Paradise is noted for it's
church on every corner.
.

User: "Martin Willett"

Title: Re: Has it always been thus 16 Apr 2006 02:29:09 PM
Peter wrote:

Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the religious
views of christians.

In the last week I have seen (UK Sky) the Judas gospels which dont exactly
plead for the Pope's right to fame,
nor it would seem does it argue that the bible as we know it supports the 2
billion or so adherents to it.

A program called I believe Jesus christ which argues against ressurection
and suggests Jesus was married with 2.4 kids

Disciples... contending that all they did was argue among themselves

Da Vinci.. tho debunking most of the book allows for Jesus to be married or
at least father a child

Pilate... was a strong man ( one who would never have allowed a normal
'burial' for our mate jc)

Dawkins..gets the best out of the unthinking fundies but seems to lose his
own composure.

The shroud... carbon dated to 12/1300 but not good enuf for the TRUE
believers.

Does Sky/Discovery etc have an agenda? I hope they do but I dare say I'll
miss songs of praise.


Of course, the agenda is profit, keeping up mysteries as long as
possible. It does not do a TV company any good to destroy belief in
Bigfoot, UFOs, ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, conspiracies, astrology or
anything of the sort. Keep rehashing the same story every few months or
years in perpetuity. Nobody ever made a fortune selling a book or TV
program on the world's 20 great solved mysteries.
The Turin Shroud will never be comprehensively debunked. Nobody will
ever shut the file on Jack the Ripper, Lizzie Borden, JFK or Jesus Christ.
--
Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
.
User: "Jeff White"

Title: Re: Has it always been thus 16 Apr 2006 03:48:05 PM
"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4afk7aFt07g8U1@individual.net...

Peter wrote:

Is it me or are there so many more programs now questioning the religious
views of christians.

In the last week I have seen (UK Sky) the Judas gospels which dont
exactly
plead for the Pope's right to fame,
nor it would seem does it argue that the bible as we know it supports the
2
billion or so adherents to it.

A program called I believe Jesus christ which argues against
ressurection
and suggests Jesus was married with 2.4 kids

Disciples... contending that all they did was argue among themselves

Da Vinci.. tho debunking most of the book allows for Jesus to be married
or
at least father a child

Pilate... was a strong man ( one who would never have allowed a normal
'burial' for our mate jc)

Dawkins..gets the best out of the unthinking fundies but seems to lose
his
own composure.

The shroud... carbon dated to 12/1300 but not good enuf for the TRUE
believers.

Does Sky/Discovery etc have an agenda? I hope they do but I dare say
I'll
miss songs of praise.


Of course, the agenda is profit, keeping up mysteries as long as possible.
It does not do a TV company any good to destroy belief in Bigfoot, UFOs,
ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, conspiracies, astrology or anything of the
sort. Keep rehashing the same story every few months or years in
perpetuity. Nobody ever made a fortune selling a book or TV program on the
world's 20 great solved mysteries.

The Turin Shroud will never be comprehensively debunked. Nobody will ever
shut the file on Jack the Ripper, Lizzie Borden, JFK or Jesus Christ.

--
Martin Willett


http://mwillett.org

my brother tells me just last week one of those "educational" networks ran a
story on the shroud of turin and never once
mentioned it's less than a thousand years old. go figure.
but if they did mention it's all *****, then in a year or two, they
wouldn't be able to make another special on the shroud of turin (like they
did with this one), so your point is right on the money, pardon the pun.
.



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