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"Budikka666" |
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29 Mar 2007 04:30:49 PM |
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Has the true God ever killed innocent people - Yes! |
Has the true God ever killed innocent people? He used to do it all
the time, either directly or by incitement or by standing by whilst it
happened:
3,000 Israelites for worshipping the golden calf
250 Levites who didn't like Moses
14,700 Hebrews by plague
24,000 Israelites who worshipped Baal (so much for free will)
12,000 men women and children of Ai
10,000 Moabites
10,000 Perizites and Canaanites
600 Philistines
3,000 more Philistines in a collapsed roof incident
120,000 Midianites
25,100 Benjamites (supposedly part of the chosen ones)
50,000 Bethshemeshites
22,000 Syrians
40,000 additional Syrians on horseback
70,000 by pestilence
100,000 more Syrians
185,000 Assyrians
500,000 men of Israel
10,000 Edomites
120,000 Judeans
75,000 Persians
All of Sodom and Gomorrah, all of the planet in a flood, mass
slaughter of children on two occasions.
And he still lets innocent people die every day.
Budikka
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Has the true God ever killed innocent people - Yes! |
06 Apr 2007 12:20:07 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:k9ma13pnvanslmul4uj165vvicpmggshrl@4ax.com...
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:00:03 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Yes, I understand perfectly. You are saying a 6 month old cannot be a
Christian.
Uh, nooooo, depends snifferboy. Infants generally become Christians
within a few weeks of birth.
So the six month old is a Christian, yet is too young to understand what
it's doing. That means you don't have to know what you're doing to be a
Christian.
Wow, the light comes on. It's exactly the point. Christ said go forth
and
baptize all nations. He didn't say just those that have achieved the age
of 16.
Christ said to teach them "all that I taught you". The Christian grows in
faith
and knowledge, and likewise can eventually reject his heritage.
And here I thought Christians had to make a free will decision to be a
Christian because the god character doesn't want robots.
Apparently anyone and anything can be a Christian. Someone just has to
perform the magic ritual.
Gee, that means that someone could have done a magic spell and made me a
Christian without me ever knowing about it.
If you were baptized, you are a Christian, just like you are a citizen of
your
country whether you like it or not.
So being a Christian isn't about faith, or love, or need for salvation, it's
about a magic spell called baptism.
So you can shut up about my supposed spiritual suicide. I'm might be just
as
much a Christian as you are.
The problem then becomes one of what do you do with it. You can always
reject
your country of birth, and lose the benefits thereof.
Already done it concerning the Christian faith. Here, I'll do it again: The
holy spirit is a steaming pile of crap.
There. According to your book, there's no going back. So it doesn't matter
what I do from now on, as far as your religion is concerned.
our abject stupidity.
This doesn't really need a comment. It speaks with uncharacteristic
candor.
A mouthful.
Oddly, I agree.
You're the one committing spiritual suicide, not me.
Are you suggesting the spirit dies? I thought they were supposed to last
forever.
Where did you read that?
Well, obviously spiritual suicide would require the death of the spirit,
wouldn't it?
As far as God is concerned, yes.
You didn't say that. You didn't say "spiritual suicide as far as god is
concerned", you said "spiritual suicide", and that's where I read it.
Otherwise it wouldn't be anything like a suicide. Or did you
mean to say I would be committing "spiritual uncomfortableness"?
It all depends if you would enjoy eternal torment in hell.
It doesn't matter anymore. There's no going back. So you can shut the *****
up.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Has the true God ever killed innocent people - Yes! |
06 Apr 2007 08:06:11 AM |
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 23:20:07 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
So the six month old is a Christian, yet is too young to understand what
it's doing. That means you don't have to know what you're doing to be a
Christian.
Wow, the light comes on. It's exactly the point. Christ said go forth
and baptize all nations. He didn't say just those that have achieved the age
of 16. Christ said to teach them "all that I taught you". The Christian grows in
faith and knowledge, and likewise can eventually reject his heritage.
And here I thought Christians had to make a free will decision to be a
Christian because the god character doesn't want robots.
See, you learn something every day. It is the will of the infant's parent that
their child become a Christian. As one grows up, one becomes capable of making
his own decisions.
Apparently anyone and anything can be a Christian. Someone just has to
perform the magic ritual.
No, one does have to be a human being.
If you were baptized, you are a Christian, just like you are a citizen of
your country whether you like it or not.
So being a Christian isn't about faith, or love, or need for salvation, it's
about a magic spell called baptism.
You can be a good Christian, or a bad Christian.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
So you can shut up about my supposed spiritual suicide. I'm might be just
as much a Christian as you are.
The problem then becomes one of what do you do with it. You can always
reject your country of birth, and lose the benefits thereof.
Already done it concerning the Christian faith. Here, I'll do it again: The
holy spirit is a steaming pile of crap.
Hey, it's your funeral. You're not hurting me.
There. According to your book, there's no going back. So it doesn't matter
what I do from now on, as far as your religion is concerned.
Repentence is golden.
Well, obviously spiritual suicide would require the death of the spirit,
wouldn't it? As far as God is concerned, yes.
You didn't say that. You didn't say "spiritual suicide as far as god is
concerned", you said "spiritual suicide", and that's where I read it.
What type of music does your spirit like?
Otherwise it wouldn't be anything like a suicide. Or did you
mean to say I would be committing "spiritual uncomfortableness"?
It all depends if you would enjoy eternal torment in hell.
It doesn't matter anymore. There's no going back. So you can shut the *****
up.
Of course there's going back. Confess your sin and repent. It's just that
simple. You have up until the moment of your death to repent. God would love
for you to come back.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
30 Mar 2007 05:02:59 PM |
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On Mar 30, 1:27 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:34:55 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
Has the true God ever killed innocent people? He used to do it all
the time, either directly or by incitement or by standing by whilst it
happened:
3,000 Israelites for worshipping the golden calf
Haa, haa, haahaahaahaahaahaa.
Bud the dud calls them "innocent".
So I take it you're a proponent of the "Evil Babies" theory that suggests
that the babies and toddlers of these destroyed cultures were all evil, and
deserved death and eternal torture.
Bud thinks that those that worship a calf made of molten gold in the face of God
are innocents. Gosh, what a joke she is.
And 3,000 dead on 9/11 for "worshipping Mammon" is hilarious, isn't
it, by your reckoning?
What happened to the children of those Biblical 3,000 who were
viciously murdered (because your god is the most insecure god it's
possible to imagine - and pretty ironic given that this god is
purportedly the *only* god! LoL!)?
Not that anything happened to anyone, because the Bible is lying, but
suppose we take it at face value and pretend the fairytale is real for
once?
What would this god care, if he were real, if people worshipped a
piece of metal, you pathetic excuse for an evil *****? Is he the
most insecure god ever? He's supposed to be the only god, so why
would he even care? How truly pathetic is that?
Only a total, irremediable moron would worship such a god, even if it
were real.
So what happened to the children when their parents turned up dead
that day? Do you think the slaughter of 3,000 people is a joke? You
think 3,000 orphaned children is funny?
You think 3,000 dead for no good reason is funny?
Thanks for proving in this wordwide public forum what a pathetic
little piece of evil and degenerate scum you truly are.
I'm done with you. If you want my attention again, you need to ask
forgiveness and start answering questions. Start with these 100:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y
and the questions you're currently running from regarding the Genesis
genealogy.
Until and unless you answer those questions with supported,
intelligent, rationally argued answers, you're not worth spitting on.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
31 Mar 2007 06:59:33 AM |
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On 30 Mar 2007 15:02:59 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Bud thinks that those that worship a calf made of molten gold in the face of God
are innocents. Gosh, what a joke she is.
And 3,000 dead on 9/11 for "worshipping Mammon" is hilarious, isn't
it, by your reckoning?
Worshipping Mammon????????? Is that a bubba dud joke?
Not that anything happened to anyone, because the Bible is lying,
Yeah, sure dud, and if anyone doesn't believe that, just ask you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
31 Mar 2007 08:15:10 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:59:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2007 15:02:59 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Bud thinks that those that worship a calf made of molten gold in the face of God
are innocents. Gosh, what a joke she is.
And 3,000 dead on 9/11 for "worshipping Mammon" is hilarious, isn't
it, by your reckoning?
Worshipping Mammon????????? Is that a bubba dud joke?
Not that anything happened to anyone, because the Bible is lying,
Yeah, sure dud, and if anyone doesn't believe that, just ask you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Self-delusion is when a person cannot see them self.
Salt can be deluded in water. It is called religion.
When salt looses it's flavor, it's the lake of fire.
Contemptuousness worldly nationalism is not of the Messiah.
Competition is when they think they are better then others.
Love does not condemn the outward appearance of His people.
The empire of modern day Babylon has fallen fallen twice.
Do not forget about those slaughtered victims in Vietnam.
Karma is not religion. It is when God makes a withdrawal.
Revelation chapter 18.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
31 Mar 2007 05:05:15 PM |
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Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:6aps035f394ga9drr25fc5oggugcsr9jp2@4ax.com:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:59:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2007 15:02:59 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
Bud thinks that those that worship a calf made of molten gold in
the face of God are innocents. Gosh, what a joke she is.
And 3,000 dead on 9/11 for "worshipping Mammon" is hilarious, isn't
it, by your reckoning?
Worshipping Mammon????????? Is that a bubba dud joke?
Not that anything happened to anyone, because the Bible is lying,
Yeah, sure dud, and if anyone doesn't believe that, just ask you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Self-delusion is when a person cannot see them self.
Salt can be deluded in water. It is called religion.
When salt looses it's flavor, it's the lake of fire.
Contemptuousness worldly nationalism is not of the Messiah.
Competition is when they think they are better then others.
Love does not condemn the outward appearance of His people.
The empire of modern day Babylon has fallen fallen twice.
Do not forget about those slaughtered victims in Vietnam.
Karma is not religion. It is when God makes a withdrawal.
Revelation chapter 18.
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?
--They consider themselves shepherds.
--They consider the rest of us sheep.
--Shepherds ***** sheep.
--Therefore AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS.
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
01 Apr 2007 08:58:23 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:05:15 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:6aps035f394ga9drr25fc5oggugcsr9jp2@4ax.com:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:59:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2007 15:02:59 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
Bud thinks that those that worship a calf made of molten gold in
the face of God are innocents. Gosh, what a joke she is.
And 3,000 dead on 9/11 for "worshipping Mammon" is hilarious, isn't
it, by your reckoning?
Worshipping Mammon????????? Is that a bubba dud joke?
Not that anything happened to anyone, because the Bible is lying,
Yeah, sure dud, and if anyone doesn't believe that, just ask you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Self-delusion is when a person cannot see them self.
Salt can be deluded in water. It is called religion.
When salt looses it's flavor, it's the lake of fire.
Contemptuousness worldly nationalism is not of the Messiah.
Competition is when they think they are better then others.
Love does not condemn the outward appearance of His people.
The empire of modern day Babylon has fallen fallen twice.
Do not forget about those slaughtered victims in Vietnam.
Karma is not religion. It is when God makes a withdrawal.
Revelation chapter 18.
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
That's because you think drugs are to be regulated by your leaders.
Matthew 13:13-15 (ASV)
Therefore speak I to them in parables; because seeing they see not,
and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And unto them
is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall
hear, and shall in no wise understand; And seeing ye shall see, and
shall in no wise perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, And
their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest
haply they should perceive with their eyes, And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart, And should turn again, And I should
heal them.
Physical drugs effect the flesh. Spiritual darkness needs revelation.
Doctor's are flesh mechanics. They are unable to repair man's spirit.
Some people have delusions without drugs. They are people you follow.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
01 Apr 2007 07:22:12 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:05:15 GMT, Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
I concur.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
01 Apr 2007 09:03:02 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 07:22:12 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:05:15 GMT, Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
I concur.
You remind me of a dog barking about nothing in ignorant depravity.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
01 Apr 2007 01:16:49 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:03:02 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
I concur.
You remind me of a dog barking about nothing in ignorant depravity.
You have your nose up a dog's *****?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
03 Apr 2007 08:48:57 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 13:16:49 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:03:02 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
Either you're on the wrong drugs...or _I_ am on the wrong drugs, 'coz
you're not making a damn bit of sense.
I concur.
You remind me of a dog barking about nothing in ignorant depravity.
You have your nose up a dog's *****?
That makes you the dog's *****.
Poopoo is meant to be buried.
Nakedness stinks like Poopoo.
I do not feel sorry for you.
Neither does your false God.
It's time to clean your *****.
Peanuts grow on trees.
Some grow in the soul.
Dirt is sole of flesh.
These are who you are:
1) a nut.
2) dirty.
3) flesh.
Your own spirit is in denial.
Your voice is extremely rude.
You believe you know the most.
You have been chosen as invalid.
Welcome to an illegitimate club.
Your brainwashing is completed.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
05 Apr 2007 03:16:16 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:48:57 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
It's time to clean your *****.
:-) ok, into the tub with you.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
06 Apr 2007 12:10:29 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:16:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:48:57 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
It's time to clean your *****.
:-) ok, into the tub with you.
Secrets cannot be kept forever by Americans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuOR98bh530
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
06 Apr 2007 01:04:37 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:10:29 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
It's time to clean your *****.
:-) ok, into the tub with you.
Secrets cannot be kept forever by Americans.
Unfortunately we can't elect him to another term.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Duke thinks 3,000 Dead on 9/11 is Hilarious Retribution |
07 Apr 2007 03:44:09 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:04:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:10:29 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
It's time to clean your *****.
:-) ok, into the tub with you.
Secrets cannot be kept forever by Americans.
Unfortunately we can't elect him to another term.
The United States Constitution:
Section 4 - Disqualification
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United
States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and
Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and
Misdemeanors.
Unfortunately there is nobody to enforce the above document section.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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