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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Michelle Malkin"
Date: 05 Oct 2006 07:16:02 PM
Object: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard Dean Responds
In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.
DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 10/05/2006 - 3:48pm. News Releases
NEWS RELEASE
DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference
Washington, DC - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued
the following statement following House Speaker Dennis Hastert's remarks at
his press conference today:
"What Republicans don't understand is that this is about children, not
politics. People are looking at this as concerned parents, not as
Republicans or Democrats. It's disgraceful that Speaker Hastert and the
Republican leadership didn't stand up for our children and do the right
thing when they learned about the problem years ago, rather than a week
after it became public. They chose to protect Congressman Foley and their
party instead of the victims. Americans don't want to see finger pointing
from the Republican leadership, they don't want to see the Speaker dodging
tough questions. They want to see the people involved unequivocally stand
up, take responsibility for their failures and investigate immediately."
The Buck Stops Where?
Hastert Says He Takes Responsibility. "I'm deeply sorry this has happened.
The bottom line is that we're taking responsibility. Because, ultimately, as
someone has said in Washington before, "the buck stops here." [Speaker
Hastert, 10/5/06]
Then, Says He's Done Nothing Wrong. "I said I haven't done anything wrong,
obviously." [Speaker Hastert, 10/5/06]
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard Dean Responds 06 Oct 2006 01:08:28 AM
In article <fvOdnUOR-7ypPbjYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.

DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 10/05/2006 - 3:48pm. News Releases
NEWS RELEASE
DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference

Washington, DC - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued
the following statement following House Speaker Dennis Hastert's remarks at
his press conference today:

"What Republicans don't understand is that this is about children, not
politics. People are looking at this as concerned parents, not as
Republicans or Democrats. It's disgraceful that Speaker Hastert and the
Republican leadership didn't stand up for our children and do the right
thing when they learned about the problem years ago, rather than a week
after it became public. They chose to protect Congressman Foley and their
party instead of the victims. Americans don't want to see finger pointing
from the Republican leadership, they don't want to see the Speaker dodging
tough questions. They want to see the people involved unequivocally stand
up, take responsibility for their failures and investigate immediately."

The Buck Stops Where?

Hastert Says He Takes Responsibility. "I'm deeply sorry this has happened.
The bottom line is that we're taking responsibility. Because, ultimately, as
someone has said in Washington before, "the buck stops here." [Speaker
Hastert, 10/5/06]

Then, Says He's Done Nothing Wrong. "I said I haven't done anything wrong,
obviously." [Speaker Hastert, 10/5/06]

Shielding a pedophile isn't wrong? Time for Denny to go.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard DeanResponds 06 Oct 2006 09:14:58 AM
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:16:02 -0400, Michelle Malkin wrote:

In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.

Hastert accepts the responsibility of blaming everybody else!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Mark D J. Mark D"

Title: Re: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard Dean Responds 09 Oct 2006 06:02:03 AM


In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.


This is in fact one of the defining features of tyranny. Seriously.
In a tyrannical system, those who wield power continually take unto
themselves additional powers, claiming as they do so that they are now
'responsible' for things. But this is a linguistic deception. What is really
happening is that they are placing themselves *beyond responsibility*,
*outside the reach of all accountability*: once they hold these powers, they
cannot be 'held to account' or 'held responsible' for anything that happens;
they cannot be dismissed, and they have no desire to resign. So they stay
there, and they keep doing what they want to do.
And a tyranny is what you have when those in power cannot be removed from
office except by violence. Any definitional debates about whether a tyranny
needs to 'have violence against its own population', or 'suspend the rule of
law', or 'be a nepotistic kleptocracy', or whatever, are just distractions.
You have a de facto tyranny when those in power stay in power whatever they
do, and for as long as they wish, because they can't be removed without
bloodshed.
M.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard DeanResponds 09 Oct 2006 09:29:45 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:02:03 +0000, Mark D J. wrote:


In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.



This is in fact one of the defining features of tyranny. Seriously.

In a tyrannical system, those who wield power continually take unto
themselves additional powers, claiming as they do so that they are now
'responsible' for things. But this is a linguistic deception. What is really
happening is that they are placing themselves *beyond responsibility*,
*outside the reach of all accountability*: once they hold these powers, they
cannot be 'held to account' or 'held responsible' for anything that happens;
they cannot be dismissed, and they have no desire to resign. So they stay
there, and they keep doing what they want to do.

And a tyranny is what you have when those in power cannot be removed from
office except by violence. Any definitional debates about whether a tyranny
needs to 'have violence against its own population', or 'suspend the rule of
law', or 'be a nepotistic kleptocracy', or whatever, are just distractions.
You have a de facto tyranny when those in power stay in power whatever they
do, and for as long as they wish, because they can't be removed without
bloodshed.

I just finished John Dean's latest, "Conservatives Without Conscience." He
really nails the people who are in charge right now. And we're in deeper
***** than even I thought.
The House--at least--is being run by a small group that believes it has a
right to power no matter what. They've actually changed the way the House
runs, abandoning traditions that go back to the founding of the country,
and it's no longer a deliberative body.
Apparently even *Republican members don't have a chance to read what
they're voting for or against. They're just told how to vote. Power over
committees has been moved up to the top and the old seniority system
(which tended to diffuse power among committee chairmen even within the
same party) is gone.
For all of Hastert's squawking, he really was the *only one that could
have acted in the Foley case. Nobody else can so much as sneeze without
permission.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.



User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Hastert Accepts Responsibiity But Not Blame; Howard Dean Responds 09 Oct 2006 05:33:40 PM
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:16:02 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

In other words, he doesn't accept the responsibility.

Exactly. /cue terminal lack of surprise. The idiots continue to dig a
deeper hole.

DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 10/05/2006 - 3:48pm. News Releases
NEWS RELEASE
DNC: Dean Responds to Speaker Hastert's Press Conference

Washington, DC - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued
the following statement following House Speaker Dennis Hastert's remarks at
his press conference today:

"What Republicans don't understand is that this is about children, not
politics. People are looking at this as concerned parents, not as
Republicans or Democrats. It's disgraceful that Speaker Hastert and the
Republican leadership didn't stand up for our children and do the right
thing when they learned about the problem years ago, rather than a week
after it became public. They chose to protect Congressman Foley and their
party instead of the victims. Americans don't want to see finger pointing
from the Republican leadership, they don't want to see the Speaker dodging
tough questions. They want to see the people involved unequivocally stand
up, take responsibility for their failures and investigate immediately."

The Buck Stops Where?

Hastert Says He Takes Responsibility. "I'm deeply sorry this has happened.
The bottom line is that we're taking responsibility. Because, ultimately, as
someone has said in Washington before, "the buck stops here." [Speaker
Hastert, 10/5/06]

Then, Says He's Done Nothing Wrong. "I said I haven't done anything wrong,
obviously." [Speaker Hastert, 10/5/06]



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shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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