Religions > Atheism > Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left
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"Gactimus" |
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02 Dec 2004 12:12:31 AM |
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Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
Lefty Anne Applebaum echoes something that conservatives have been saying
for a long time:
"The larger point, though, is that the "it's-all-an-American-plot"
arguments circulating in cyberspace again demonstrate something that the
writer Christopher Hitchens, himself a former Trotskyite, has been talking
about for a long time: At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the
Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it
actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government
that would be friendly to the United States. Many of the same people who
found it hard to say anything bad about Saddam Hussein find it equally
difficult to say anything nice about pro-democracy demonstrators in
Ukraine. Many of the same people who would refuse to condemn a dictator who
is anti-American cannot bring themselves to admire democrats who admire, or
at least don't hate, the United States."
There are plenty of left-wingers who hate America with such fervor, such
passion, that it overrides most other considerations. Don't believe it?
Look at the popularity of Noam Chomsky, a man whose entire works could be
boiled down to the phrase, "America is the source of all evil in the
world". Remember the glumness on the left side of the blogosphere when our
troops liberated Iraq? Have you ever noticed how many lefties can talk and
write constantly about what's wrong with George Bush, what's wrong with
Republicans, what's wrong with America...but have almost nothing negative
to say about the enemies our country?
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd that Reagan
talked about has only gotten larger and more powerful on the left over the
years.
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| User: "Rob Duncan" |
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| Title: Re: Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
03 Dec 2004 01:34:32 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1101967951.STZU19dx5HMjQrq4UXsvCA@bubbanews...
Lefty Anne Applebaum echoes something that conservatives have been saying
for a long time:
"The larger point, though, is that the "it's-all-an-American-plot"
arguments circulating in cyberspace again demonstrate something that the
writer Christopher Hitchens, himself a former Trotskyite, has been talking
about for a long time: At least a part of the Western left -- or rather
the
Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it
actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government
that would be friendly to the United States. Many of the same people who
found it hard to say anything bad about Saddam Hussein find it equally
difficult to say anything nice about pro-democracy demonstrators in
Ukraine. Many of the same people who would refuse to condemn a dictator
who
is anti-American cannot bring themselves to admire democrats who admire,
or
at least don't hate, the United States."
There are plenty of left-wingers who hate America with such fervor, such
passion, that it overrides most other considerations. Don't believe it?
Look at the popularity of Noam Chomsky, a man whose entire works could be
boiled down to the phrase, "America is the source of all evil in the
world". Remember the glumness on the left side of the blogosphere when our
troops liberated Iraq? Have you ever noticed how many lefties can talk and
write constantly about what's wrong with George Bush, what's wrong with
Republicans, what's wrong with America...but have almost nothing negative
to say about the enemies our country?
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd that Reagan
talked about has only gotten larger and more powerful on the left over the
years.
Considering theyve lost ground in the presidency, the senate, and the house,
thats a rather assinine statement.
Rob
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| User: "James A. Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
03 Dec 2004 02:10:21 PM |
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"Gactimus"
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd
that Reagan talked about has only gotten larger and more
powerful on the left over the years.
"Rob Duncan"
Considering theyve lost ground in the presidency, the senate,
and the house, thats a rather assinine statement.
The blame-America- first crowd never had the presidency, the
senate, or the house. What happened is that as the
blame-America- first crowd crowd became more influential in
the Democrat party, Americans became less inclined to vote for
Democrats.
The Democrats have been wondering whether they should chuck
abortion rights overboard to appease the wolves. They would be
better off chucking Michael Moore and the New York Times.
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James A. Donald
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| User: "Bulba!" |
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| Title: Re: Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
05 Dec 2004 03:32:17 PM |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:10:21 -0800, James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
"Gactimus"
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd
that Reagan talked about has only gotten larger and more
powerful on the left over the years.
"Rob Duncan"
Considering theyve lost ground in the presidency, the senate,
and the house, thats a rather assinine statement.
The blame-America- first crowd never had the presidency, the
senate, or the house. What happened is that as the
blame-America- first crowd crowd became more influential in
the Democrat party, Americans became less inclined to vote for
Democrats.
The Democrats have been wondering whether they should chuck
abortion rights overboard to appease the wolves. They would be
better off chucking Michael Moore and the New York Times.
There are two ways of doing it I see:
1. NR's Goldberg way, which I see you share - let them move to the
center.
2. My way, or keep them in ignorance about particular details
and let them marginalize themselves.
--
Life without liberty is not worth living.
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| User: "Patrick Powers" |
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| Title: Re: Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
02 Dec 2004 11:10:07 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<1101967951.STZU19dx5HMjQrq4UXsvCA@bubbanews>...
At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the
Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it
actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government
that would be friendly to the United States.
Have you ever noticed how many lefties can talk and
write constantly about what's wrong with George Bush, what's wrong with
Republicans, what's wrong with America...but have almost nothing negative
to say about the enemies our country?
China, Iran, and North Korea have horrible dictatorships. Russia is
hell. Saddam's Iraq sucked. Castro peddles carcinogens. Communism
was a disaster. Stalin and Mao were the worst.
Jefferson and Hamilton and Franklin were men of principle and genius.
Washington had great integrity. The rebuilding of Japan was the most
enlightened act of government ever. Many other presidents had
greatness. America led the world to freedom, and a long hard road it
was. The world owes the US a debt of gratitude.
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd that Reagan
talked about has only gotten larger and more powerful on the left over the
years.
Reagan, who violated his oath of office by selling arms to enemies of
America. Bush, who violated his oath of office by introduced
torture, an huge stain on the honor of the United States. What would
Washington and Jefferson think of that.
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| User: "Chris the Liberal" |
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| Title: Re: Hatred Of America Is Greater Than Love Of Freedom For Some On The Left |
04 Dec 2004 01:07:45 AM |
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(Patrick Powers) wrote in message news:<9511688f.0412022110.ff18340@posting.google.com>...
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<1101967951.STZU19dx5HMjQrq4UXsvCA@bubbanews>...
At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the
Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it
actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government
that would be friendly to the United States.
Have you ever noticed how many lefties can talk and
write constantly about what's wrong with George Bush, what's wrong with
Republicans, what's wrong with America...but have almost nothing negative
to say about the enemies our country?
China, Iran, and North Korea have horrible dictatorships. Russia is
hell. Saddam's Iraq sucked. Castro peddles carcinogens. Communism
was a disaster. Stalin and Mao were the worst.
Jefferson and Hamilton and Franklin were men of principle and genius.
Washington had great integrity. The rebuilding of Japan was the most
enlightened act of government ever. Many other presidents had
greatness. America led the world to freedom, and a long hard road it
was. The world owes the US a debt of gratitude.
It's no coincidence folks. "The blame America first" crowd that Reagan
talked about has only gotten larger and more powerful on the left over the
years.
Reagan, who violated his oath of office by selling arms to enemies of
America. Bush, who violated his oath of office by introduced
torture, an huge stain on the honor of the United States. What would
Washington and Jefferson think of that.
I think Will Rogers had it right: "When I consider the political
history of the US, it is obvious Darwin had it backward".
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