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"Stalin's Willing Executioners"?
By Kevin MacDonald
Yuri Slezkine's book The Jewish Century, which appeared last year to
rapturous reviews, is an intellectual tour de force, alternately
muddled and brilliant, courageous and apologetic. Slezkine's greatest
accomplishment is to set the historical record straight on the
importance of Jews in the Bolshevik Revolution and its aftermath. He
summarizes previously available data and extends our understanding of
the Jewish role in revolutionary movements before 1917 and of Soviet
society thereafter. His book provides a fascinating chronicle of the
Jewish rise to elite status in all areas of Soviet society-culture,
the universities, professional occupations, the media, and government.
Indeed, the book is also probably the best, most up-to-date account of
Jewish economic and cultural pre-eminence in Europe (and America) that
we have.
The once-common view that the Bolshevik Revolution was a Jewish
revolution and that the Soviet Union was initially dominated by Jews
has now been largely eliminated from modern academic historiography.
The current view, accepted by almost all contemporary historians, is
that Jews played no special role in Bolshevism and indeed, were
uniquely victimized by it.
Slezkine's book provides a bracing corrective to this current view.
Slezkine himself is a Russian immigrant of partially Jewish extraction.
Arriving in America in 1983, he moved quickly into elite U.S. academic
circles and is now a professor at U.C. Berkeley. This, his second book,
is his first on a major theme.
While the greater part of The Jewish Century is an exposition of the
Russian experience, Slezkine provides what are in effect sidebars
(comparatively flimsy) recounting the Jewish experience in America and
the Middle East. Together, these phenomena can in fact be seen as the
three great Jewish migrations of the 20th century, since within Russia
millions of Jews left the shtetl towns of the Pale of Settlement,
migrating to Moscow and the other cities to man elite positions in the
Soviet state.
Slezkine attempts to understand Jewish history and the rise of Jews to
elite status in the 20th century by developing the thesis that the
peoples of the world can be classified into two groups.
The successful peoples of the modern world, termed Mercurians, are
urban, mobile, literate, articulate, and intellectually sophisticated.
The second group, termed Apollonians, is rooted to the land with
traditional agrarian cultures, valuing physical strength and warrior
virtues.
Since Slezkine sees Jews as the quintessential Mercurians,
modernization is essentially a process of everyone becoming Jewish.
Indeed, Slezkine regards both European individualism and the European
nation state as imitations of pre-existing Jewish
accomplishments-both deeply problematic views, in my opinion.
There are problems with the Mercurian/Apollonian distinction as well.
The Gypsies whom he offers as an example of another Mercurian people,
are basically the opposite of Jews: having a low-investment, low-IQ
reproductive style characterized by higher fertility, earlier onset of
reproduction, more unstable pair bonds, and more single parenting.
The Overseas Chinese, another proposed parallel, are indeed highly
intelligent and entrepreneurial, like the Jews. But I would argue the
aggressiveness of the Jews, compared to the relative political
passivity of the Overseas Chinese, invalidates the comparison.
We do not read of Chinese cultural movements dominating the major local
universities and media outlets, subjecting the traditional culture of
Southeast Asians and anti-Chinese sentiment to radical critique -or
of Chinese organizations campaigning for the removal of native cultural
and religious symbols from public places.
Moreover, the vast majority of Jews in Eastern Europe in the late
nineteenth and early twentieth centuries were hardly the modern
Mercurians that Slezkine portrays.
Well into the 20th century, as Slezkine himself notes, most Eastern
European Jews could not speak the languages of the non-Jews living
around them. Slezkine also ignores their medieval outlook on life,
their obsession with the Kabbala-the writings of Jewish
mystics-their superstition and anti-rationalism, and their belief in
magical remedies and exorcisms.
And these supposedly modern Mercurians had an attitude of absolute
faith in the person of the tsadik, their rebbe, who was a charismatic
figure seen by his followers literally as the personification of God in
the world.
Slezkine devotes one line to the fact that Jewish populations in
Eastern Europe had the highest rate of natural increase of any European
population in the nineteenth century. The grinding poverty that this
produced caused an upsurge of fundamentalist extremism that coalesced
in the Hasidic movement and, later in the nineteenth century, into
political radicalism and Zionism as solutions to Jewish problems.
By proposing the basically spurious Mercurian/Apollonian contrast,
Slezkine obscures the plain fact that Jewish history in the period he
discusses constitutes a spectacularly, arguably uniquely, successful
case of what I have described as an ethnocentric group competitive
strategy in action.
Slezkine conceptualizes Mercurianism as a worldview and therefore a
matter of psychological choice rather than a set of psychological
mechanisms, notably general intelligence and ethnocentrism. He appears
to be aware of the biological reality of kinship and ethnicity, but he
steadfastly pursues a cultural determinism model. As a result of this
false premise, he understates the power of ethnocentrism and group
competitiveness as unifying factors in Jewish history.
This competitiveness was of course notorious in Eastern Europe before
the 1917 revolution. Slezkine ignores, or at least does not spell out,
the extent to which Jews were willing agents of exploitative elites in
traditional societies, not only in Europe, but in the Muslim world as
well. Forming alliances with exploitative elites is arguably the most
reliably recurrent theme observable in Jewish economic behavior over
the ages.
Indeed, Slezkine shows that this pattern effectively continued in
Russia after the Revolution: Jews became part of a new exploitative
elite. But here boundaries between Jews and non-Jews were unusually
blurred-in traditional societies, barriers between Jews and non-Jews
at all social levels were always high.
Slezkine supposes that Jews and other Mercurians performed economic
tasks deemed inappropriate for the natives for religious reasons. But
this is only part of the story. Often these were situations where the
natives were simply comparatively less ruthless in exploiting their
fellows, which put them at a competitive disadvantage. This was
especially the case in Eastern Europe, where conducive economic
arrangements, such as tax farming, estate management, and monopolies on
retail liquor distribution, lasted far longer than in the West.
Slezkine also ignores the extent to which Jewish competition may have
suppressed - arguably sometimes reversed - the formation of a
native middle class in Eastern Europe. He seems instead to simply
assume the locals lacked the abilities required.
But the fact is that in most of Western Europe Jews were expelled in
the Middle Ages. And, as a result, when modernization occurred, it was
accomplished with an indigenous middle class. Perhaps the Christian
taxpayers of England made a good investment in their own future when
they agreed to pay King Edward I a massive tax of L116,346 in return
for expelling 2000 Jews in 1290. If, as in Eastern Europe, Jews had won
the economic competition in most of these professions, there might not
have been a non-Jewish middle class in England.
Although in the decades immediately before the Russian Revolution Jews
had already made enormous advances in social and economic status, a
major contribution of Slezkine's book is to document that Communism
was, indeed, "good for the Jews." After the Revolution, there was
active elimination of any remnants of the older order and their
descendants. Anti-Semitism was outlawed. Jews benefited from
"antibourgeois" quotas in educational institutions and other forms
of discrimination against the middle class and aristocratic elements of
the old regime, which could have competed with the Jews. While all
other nationalities, including Jews, were allowed and encouraged to
keep their ethnic identities, the revolution maintained an
anti-majoritarian attitude. (Some might argue that the parallel with
post '65 Civil Rights Act America ironic!)
Beyond the issue of demonstrating that the Jews benefited from the
Revolution lies the more important question of their role in
implementing it. Having achieved power and elite status, did their
traditional hostility to the leaders of the old regime, and to the
peasantry, contribute to the peculiarly ghastly character of the early
Soviet era?
On this question, Slezkine's contribution is decisive.
Despite the important role of Jews among the Bolsheviks, most Jews were
not Bolsheviks before the Revolution. However, Jews were prominent
among the Bolsheviks, and once the Revolution was underway, the vast
majority of Russian Jews became sympathizers and active participants.
Jews were particularly visible in the cities and as leaders in the army
and in the revolutionary councils and committees. For example, there
were 23 Jews among 62 Bolsheviks in the All-Russian Central Executive
Committee elected at the Second Congress of Soviets in October, 1917.
Jews were leaders of the movement and to a great extent they were its
public face.
Their presence was particularly notable at the top levels of the Cheka
and OGPU (two successive acronyms for the secret police). Here Slezkine
provides statistics on Jewish overrepresentation in these
organizations, especially in supervisory roles, and quotes historian
Leonard Shapiro's comment that "anyone who had the misfortune to
fall into the hands of the Cheka stood a very good chance of finding
himself confronted with and possibly shot by a Jewish investigator."
During the 1930s, Slezkine reports, the secret police, now known as the
NKVD, "was one of the most Jewish of all Soviet institutions", with
42 of the 111 top officials being Jewish. At this time 12 of the 20
NKVD directorates were headed by ethnic Jews, including those in charge
of State Security, Police, Labor Camps, and Resettlement (deportation).
The Gulag was headed by ethnic Jews from its beginning in 1930 until
the end of 1938, a period that encompasses the worst excesses of the
Great Terror.
They were, in Slezkine's remarkable phrase, "Stalin's willing
executioners".
Slezkine appears to take a certain pride in the drama of the role of
the Jews in Russia during these years. Thus he says they were
"among the most exuberant crusaders against 'bourgeois' habits
during the Great Transformation; the most disciplined advocates of
socialist realism during the 'Great Retreat' (from revolutionary
internationalism); and the most passionate prophets of faith, hope, and
combat during the Great Patriotic War against the Nazis".
Sometimes his juxtapositions between his descriptions of Jewish
involvement in the horror of the early Soviet period and the life
styles of the Jewish elite seem deliberately jarring. Lev Kopelev, a
Jewish writer who witnessed and rationalized the Ukrainian famine in
which millions died horrible deaths of starvation and disease as an
"historical necessity" is quoted saying "You mustn't give in to
debilitating pity. We are the agents of historical necessity. We are
fulfilling our revolutionary duty."
On the next page, Slezkine describes the life of the largely Jewish
elite in Moscow and Leningrad where they attended the theater, sent
their children to the best schools, had peasant women (whose families
were often the victims of mass murder) for nannies, spent weekends at
pleasant dachas and vacationed at the Black Sea.
Again, Slezkine discusses the heavily Jewish NKVD and the Jewish
leadership of the Great Terror of the 1930s. Then, he writes that in
1937 the prototypical Jewish State official "probably would have
been living in elite housing in downtown Moscow . . . with access to
special stores, a house in the country (dacha), and a live-in peasant
nanny or maid". He writes long and lovingly detailed sketches of life
at the dachas of the elite-the "open verandas overlooking small
gardens enclosed by picket fences..."
The reader is left on his own to recall the horrors of the Ukrainian
famine, the liquidation of the Kulaks, and the Gulag.
Slezkine attempts to dodge the issue of the degree to which the horrors
perpetrated by the early Soviet state were rooted in the traditional
attitudes of the Jews who in fact played such an extensive role in
their orchestration. He argues that the Jewish Communists were
Communists, not Jews.
This does not survive factual analysis.
One might grant the possibility that the revolutionary vanguard was
composed of Jews like Trotsky, apparently far more influenced by a
universalist utopian vision than by their upbringing in traditional
Judaism. But, even granting this, it does not necessarily follow for
the millions of Jews who left the shtetl towns, migrated to the cities,
and to such a large extent ran the USSR.
It strains credulity to suppose that these migrants completely and
immediately threw off all remnants of the Eastern European shtetl
culture-which, as Slezkine acknowledges, had a deep sense of
estrangement from non-Jewish society, a fear and hatred of peasants,
hostility toward the Czarist upper class, and a very negative attitude
toward Christianity.
In other words, the war against what Slezkine terms "rural
backwardness and religion" - major targets of the Revolution -
was exactly the sort of war that traditional Jews would have supported
wholeheartedly, because it was a war against everything they hated and
thought of as oppressing Jews.
However, while Slezkine seems comfortable with the notion of revenge as
a Jewish motive, he does not consider traditional Jewish culture itself
as a possible contributor to Jewish behavior in the new Communist
state.
Moreover, while it was generally true that Jewish servants of the
Soviet regime had ceased being religious Jews, this did not mean they
ceased having a Jewish identity. (Albert Lindeman made this point when
reviewing Slezkine in The American Conservative [article not on line].)
Slezkine quotes the philosopher Vitaly Rubin speaking of his career at
a top Moscow school in the 1930s where over half the students were
Jewish:
"Understandably, the Jewish question did not arise there...All the
Jews knew themselves to be Jews but considered everything to do with
Jewishness a thing of the past...There was no active desire to renounce
one's Jewishness. The problem simply did not exist."
In other words, in the early decades of the Soviet Union, the ruling
class was so heavily a Jewish milieu, that there was no need to
renounce a Jewish identity and no need to aggressively push for Jewish
interests. Jews had achieved elite status.
But ethnic networking continued nonetheless. Indeed, Slezkine reports
that when a leading Soviet spokesmen on anti-Semitism, Yuri Larin
(Lurie), tried to explain the embarrassing fact that Jews were, as he
said, "preeminent, overabundant, dominant, and so on" among the
elite in the Soviet Union, he mentioned the "unusually strong sense
of solidarity and a predisposition toward mutual help and
support"-ethnic networking by any other name.
Obviously, "mutual help and support" required that Jews recognize
each other as Jews. Jewish identity may not have been much discussed.
But it operated nonetheless, even if subconsciously, in the rarified
circles at the top of Soviet society.
Things changed. Slezkine shows that the apparent de-emphasis of Jewish
identity by many members of the Soviet elite during the 1920s and 1930s
turned out to be a poor indicator of whether or not these people
identified as Jews-or would do so when Jewish and Soviet identities
began to diverge in later years: when National Socialism reemphasized
Jewish identity, and when Israel emerged as a magnet for Jewish
sentiment and loyalty.
In the end, despite the rationalizations of many Soviet Jews on Jewish
identity in the early Soviet period, it was blood that mattered.
After World War II, in a process which remains somewhat obscure, the
Russian majority began taking back their country. One method was
"massive affirmative action" aimed at giving greater representation
to underrepresented ethnic groups. Jews became targets of suspicion
because of their ethnic status. They were barred from some elite
institutions, and had their opportunities for advancement limited.
Overt anti-Semitism was encouraged by the more covert official variety
apparent in the limits on Jewish advancement.
Under these circumstances, Slezkine says that Jews became "in many
ways, the core of the antiregime intelligentsia". Applications to
leave the USSR increased dramatically after Israel's Six-Day War of
1967 which, as in the United States and Eastern Europe, resulted in an
upsurge of Jewish identification and ethnic pride. The floodgates were
eventually opened by Gorbachev in the late 1980s. By 1994, 1.2 million
Soviet Jews had emigrated-43% of the total. By 2002, there were only
230,000 Jews remaining in the Russian Federation, 0.16% of the
population.
Nevertheless these remaining Jews remain overrepresented among the
elite. Six of the seven oligarchs who emerged in control of the Soviet
economy and media in the period of de-nationalization of the 1990s were
Jews.
As mentioned above, Slezkine's discussions of the Jewish experience
in the Middle East and America are quite perfunctory in comparison.
Slezkine views the Jewish migration to Israel as heroic and believes
the moral debt owed to Jews by Western societies justifies the most
extreme expressions of Jewish racialism:
"The rhetoric of ethnic homogeneity and ethnic deportations, tabooed
elsewhere in the West is a routine element of Israeli political life...
no other European state can have as strong a claim on the West's
moral imagination."
He sees the moral taboo on European ethnocentrism, the designation of
Nazism as the epitome of absolute evil, and the identification of Jews
as what he calls "the Chosen people of the postwar Western world"
as simply the inevitable results of the events of World War II. In
fact, of course, the creation and maintenance of the culture of the
Holocaust and the special moral claims of Jews and Israel might be more
fairly viewed the intended result of Jewish ethnic activism.
Slezkine's caricature of American history is close to preposterous.
He sees the United States as a Jewish promised land precisely because
it is not defined tribally and "has no state-bearing natives". In
fact, of course, the Founding Fathers very explicitly saw themselves as
Englishmen defending a specific political tradition. But (somewhat like
the Soviet Union's Jews in the early decades) they felt no need to
assert the cultural and ethnic parameters of their creation; they
asssumed the racial and cultural homogeneity of the Republic and
perceived no threat to its control by themselves and their descendants.
And when the Founding Fathers' descendents did percieve such a
threat, they reacted powerfully and decisively, with the Know-Nothing
movement in the 1850s and the Immigration Restriction (and associated
"Americanization" requirements) in the early 20th Century
Slezkine's acceptance of the "Proposition Nation" myth reflects
the triumph of intellectuals and propagandists, many of them Jewish,
led by Horace Kallen in the 1920s. These succesfully replaced the
previously standard view by which many Americans thought of themselves
as members of a very successful ethnic group derived from Great Britain
and with strong cultural and ethnic connections to Europe, particularly
Northern Europe.
The fate of Russia in the first two decades following the Revolution
prompts reflection on what might have happened in the United States had
American communists and their sympathizers assumed power. Sectors of
American society might perhaps have been deemed unacceptably backward
and superstitious and even worthy of mass murder by the American
counterparts of the Jewish elite in the Soviet Union-the ones who
journeyed to Ellis Island instead of Moscow.
Those "red state" voters who have loomed so important in recent
national elections would have been the enemy. The cultural and
religious attitudes of "red state" America are precisely those
attitudes that have been deemed changeworthy by the left, particularly
by the Jewish community, which has been the driving force of the left
in America throughout the 20th century.
As Joel Kotkin points out, "for generations, [American] Jews have
viewed religious conservatives with a combination of fear and
disdain."
And, as Elliott Abrams had noted, the American Jewish community
"clings to what is at bottom a dark vision of America, as a land
permeated with anti-Semitism..."
The dark view of traditional Slavs and their culture that caused so
many Eastern European shtetl Jews to become "willing executioners"
in the name of international socialism is unmistakably related, however
remotely, to the views of some contemporary American Jews about a
majority of their fellow countrymen.
Slezkine's main point is that the most important factor for
understanding the history of the 20th century is the rise of the Jews
in the West and the Middle East, and their rise and decline in Russia.
I think he is absolutely right about this.
If there is any lesson to be learned, it is that Jews not only became
an elite in all these areas, they became a hostile elite-hostile to
the traditional people and cultures of all three areas they came to
dominate.
So far, the greatest human tragedies have occurred in the Soviet Union.
But the presence of Israel in the Middle East is creating obvious
dangers there. And alienation remains a potent motive for the
disproportionate Jewish involvement in the transformation of the U.S.
into a non-European society through non-traditional immigration.
Given this record of Jews as a very successful but hostile elite, it is
possible that the continued demographic and cultural dominance of
Western European peoples will not be retained, either in Europe or the
United States, without a decline in Jewish influence.
But the lesson of the Soviet Union (as also Spain from the 15th-17th
centuries) is that Jewish influence does wane as well as wax. Unlike
the attitudes of the utopian ideologies of the 20th century, there is
no end to history.
Kevin MacDonald is Professor of Psychology at California State
University-Long Beach.
This article is adapted from a longer review
http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol5no3/53-km-slezkine.pdf
published in the Fall 2005 issue of The Occidental Quarterly.
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in
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"Stalin's Willing Executioners"?
So you are saying Stalin's training by the priests at the seminary he
attended was effective?
Klazmon
By Kevin MacDonald
Yuri Slezkine's book The Jewish Century, which appeared last year to
rapturous reviews, is an intellectual tour de force, alternately
muddled and brilliant, courageous and apologetic. Slezkine's greatest
accomplishment is to set the historical record straight on the
importance of Jews in the Bolshevik Revolution and its aftermath. He
summarizes previously available data and extends our understanding of
the Jewish role in revolutionary movements before 1917 and of Soviet
society thereafter. His book provides a fascinating chronicle of the
Jewish rise to elite status in all areas of Soviet society-culture,
the universities, professional occupations, the media, and government.
Indeed, the book is also probably the best, most up-to-date account of
Jewish economic and cultural pre-eminence in Europe (and America) that
we have.
The once-common view that the Bolshevik Revolution was a Jewish
revolution and that the Soviet Union was initially dominated by Jews
has now been largely eliminated from modern academic historiography.
The current view, accepted by almost all contemporary historians, is
that Jews played no special role in Bolshevism and indeed, were
uniquely victimized by it.
Slezkine's book provides a bracing corrective to this current view.
Slezkine himself is a Russian immigrant of partially Jewish extraction.
Arriving in America in 1983, he moved quickly into elite U.S. academic
circles and is now a professor at U.C. Berkeley. This, his second book,
is his first on a major theme.
While the greater part of The Jewish Century is an exposition of the
Russian experience, Slezkine provides what are in effect sidebars
(comparatively flimsy) recounting the Jewish experience in America and
the Middle East. Together, these phenomena can in fact be seen as the
three great Jewish migrations of the 20th century, since within Russia
millions of Jews left the shtetl towns of the Pale of Settlement,
migrating to Moscow and the other cities to man elite positions in the
Soviet state.
Slezkine attempts to understand Jewish history and the rise of Jews to
elite status in the 20th century by developing the thesis that the
peoples of the world can be classified into two groups.
The successful peoples of the modern world, termed Mercurians, are
urban, mobile, literate, articulate, and intellectually sophisticated.
The second group, termed Apollonians, is rooted to the land with
traditional agrarian cultures, valuing physical strength and warrior
virtues.
Since Slezkine sees Jews as the quintessential Mercurians,
modernization is essentially a process of everyone becoming Jewish.
Indeed, Slezkine regards both European individualism and the European
nation state as imitations of pre-existing Jewish
accomplishments-both deeply problematic views, in my opinion.
There are problems with the Mercurian/Apollonian distinction as well.
The Gypsies whom he offers as an example of another Mercurian people,
are basically the opposite of Jews: having a low-investment, low-IQ
reproductive style characterized by higher fertility, earlier onset of
reproduction, more unstable pair bonds, and more single parenting.
The Overseas Chinese, another proposed parallel, are indeed highly
intelligent and entrepreneurial, like the Jews. But I would argue the
aggressiveness of the Jews, compared to the relative political
passivity of the Overseas Chinese, invalidates the comparison.
We do not read of Chinese cultural movements dominating the major local
universities and media outlets, subjecting the traditional culture of
Southeast Asians and anti-Chinese sentiment to radical critique -or
of Chinese organizations campaigning for the removal of native cultural
and religious symbols from public places.
Moreover, the vast majority of Jews in Eastern Europe in the late
nineteenth and early twentieth centuries were hardly the modern
Mercurians that Slezkine portrays.
Well into the 20th century, as Slezkine himself notes, most Eastern
European Jews could not speak the languages of the non-Jews living
around them. Slezkine also ignores their medieval outlook on life,
their obsession with the Kabbala-the writings of Jewish
mystics-their superstition and anti-rationalism, and their belief in
magical remedies and exorcisms.
And these supposedly modern Mercurians had an attitude of absolute
faith in the person of the tsadik, their rebbe, who was a charismatic
figure seen by his followers literally as the personification of God in
the world.
Slezkine devotes one line to the fact that Jewish populations in
Eastern Europe had the highest rate of natural increase of any European
population in the nineteenth century. The grinding poverty that this
produced caused an upsurge of fundamentalist extremism that coalesced
in the Hasidic movement and, later in the nineteenth century, into
political radicalism and Zionism as solutions to Jewish problems.
By proposing the basically spurious Mercurian/Apollonian contrast,
Slezkine obscures the plain fact that Jewish history in the period he
discusses constitutes a spectacularly, arguably uniquely, successful
case of what I have described as an ethnocentric group competitive
strategy in action.
Slezkine conceptualizes Mercurianism as a worldview and therefore a
matter of psychological choice rather than a set of psychological
mechanisms, notably general intelligence and ethnocentrism. He appears
to be aware of the biological reality of kinship and ethnicity, but he
steadfastly pursues a cultural determinism model. As a result of this
false premise, he understates the power of ethnocentrism and group
competitiveness as unifying factors in Jewish history.
This competitiveness was of course notorious in Eastern Europe before
the 1917 revolution. Slezkine ignores, or at least does not spell out,
the extent to which Jews were willing agents of exploitative elites in
traditional societies, not only in Europe, but in the Muslim world as
well. Forming alliances with exploitative elites is arguably the most
reliably recurrent theme observable in Jewish economic behavior over
the ages.
Indeed, Slezkine shows that this pattern effectively continued in
Russia after the Revolution: Jews became part of a new exploitative
elite. But here boundaries between Jews and non-Jews were unusually
blurred-in traditional societies, barriers between Jews and non-Jews
at all social levels were always high.
Slezkine supposes that Jews and other Mercurians performed economic
tasks deemed inappropriate for the natives for religious reasons. But
this is only part of the story. Often these were situations where the
natives were simply comparatively less ruthless in exploiting their
fellows, which put them at a competitive disadvantage. This was
especially the case in Eastern Europe, where conducive economic
arrangements, such as tax farming, estate management, and monopolies on
retail liquor distribution, lasted far longer than in the West.
Slezkine also ignores the extent to which Jewish competition may have
suppressed - arguably sometimes reversed - the formation of a
native middle class in Eastern Europe. He seems instead to simply
assume the locals lacked the abilities required.
But the fact is that in most of Western Europe Jews were expelled in
the Middle Ages. And, as a result, when modernization occurred, it was
accomplished with an indigenous middle class. Perhaps the Christian
taxpayers of England made a good investment in their own future when
they agreed to pay King Edward I a massive tax of L116,346 in return
for expelling 2000 Jews in 1290. If, as in Eastern Europe, Jews had won
the economic competition in most of these professions, there might not
have been a non-Jewish middle class in England.
Although in the decades immediately before the Russian Revolution Jews
had already made enormous advances in social and economic status, a
major contribution of Slezkine's book is to document that Communism
was, indeed, "good for the Jews." After the Revolution, there was
active elimination of any remnants of the older order and their
descendants. Anti-Semitism was outlawed. Jews benefited from
"antibourgeois" quotas in educational institutions and other forms
of discrimination against the middle class and aristocratic elements of
the old regime, which could have competed with the Jews. While all
other nationalities, including Jews, were allowed and encouraged to
keep their ethnic identities, the revolution maintained an
anti-majoritarian attitude. (Some might argue that the parallel with
post '65 Civil Rights Act America ironic!)
Beyond the issue of demonstrating that the Jews benefited from the
Revolution lies the more important question of their role in
implementing it. Having achieved power and elite status, did their
traditional hostility to the leaders of the old regime, and to the
peasantry, contribute to the peculiarly ghastly character of the early
Soviet era?
On this question, Slezkine's contribution is decisive.
Despite the important role of Jews among the Bolsheviks, most Jews were
not Bolsheviks before the Revolution. However, Jews were prominent
among the Bolsheviks, and once the Revolution was underway, the vast
majority of Russian Jews became sympathizers and active participants.
Jews were particularly visible in the cities and as leaders in the army
and in the revolutionary councils and committees. For example, there
were 23 Jews among 62 Bolsheviks in the All-Russian Central Executive
Committee elected at the Second Congress of Soviets in October, 1917.
Jews were leaders of the movement and to a great extent they were its
public face.
Their presence was particularly notable at the top levels of the Cheka
and OGPU (two successive acronyms for the secret police). Here Slezkine
provides statistics on Jewish overrepresentation in these
organizations, especially in supervisory roles, and quotes historian
Leonard Shapiro's comment that "anyone who had the misfortune to
fall into the hands of the Cheka stood a very good chance of finding
himself confronted with and possibly shot by a Jewish investigator."
During the 1930s, Slezkine reports, the secret police, now known as the
NKVD, "was one of the most Jewish of all Soviet institutions", with
42 of the 111 top officials being Jewish. At this time 12 of the 20
NKVD directorates were headed by ethnic Jews, including those in charge
of State Security, Police, Labor Camps, and Resettlement (deportation).
The Gulag was headed by ethnic Jews from its beginning in 1930 until
the end of 1938, a period that encompasses the worst excesses of the
Great Terror.
They were, in Slezkine's remarkable phrase, "Stalin's willing
executioners".
Slezkine appears to take a certain pride in the drama of the role of
the Jews in Russia during these years. Thus he says they were
"among the most exuberant crusaders against 'bourgeois' habits
during the Great Transformation; the most disciplined advocates of
socialist realism during the 'Great Retreat' (from revolutionary
internationalism); and the most passionate prophets of faith, hope, and
combat during the Great Patriotic War against the Nazis".
Sometimes his juxtapositions between his descriptions of Jewish
involvement in the horror of the early Soviet period and the life
styles of the Jewish elite seem deliberately jarring. Lev Kopelev, a
Jewish writer who witnessed and rationalized the Ukrainian famine in
which millions died horrible deaths of starvation and disease as an
"historical necessity" is quoted saying "You mustn't give in to
debilitating pity. We are the agents of historical necessity. We are
fulfilling our revolutionary duty."
On the next page, Slezkine describes the life of the largely Jewish
elite in Moscow and Leningrad where they attended the theater, sent
their children to the best schools, had peasant women (whose families
were often the victims of mass murder) for nannies, spent weekends at
pleasant dachas and vacationed at the Black Sea.
Again, Slezkine discusses the heavily Jewish NKVD and the Jewish
leadership of the Great Terror of the 1930s. Then, he writes that in
1937 the prototypical Jewish State official "probably would have
been living in elite housing in downtown Moscow . . . with access to
special stores, a house in the country (dacha), and a live-in peasant
nanny or maid". He writes long and lovingly detailed sketches of life
at the dachas of the elite-the "open verandas overlooking small
gardens enclosed by picket fences..."
The reader is left on his own to recall the horrors of the Ukrainian
famine, the liquidation of the Kulaks, and the Gulag.
Slezkine attempts to dodge the issue of the degree to which the horrors
perpetrated by the early Soviet state were rooted in the traditional
attitudes of the Jews who in fact played such an extensive role in
their orchestration. He argues that the Jewish Communists were
Communists, not Jews.
This does not survive factual analysis.
One might grant the possibility that the revolutionary vanguard was
composed of Jews like Trotsky, apparently far more influenced by a
universalist utopian vision than by their upbringing in traditional
Judaism. But, even granting this, it does not necessarily follow for
the millions of Jews who left the shtetl towns, migrated to the cities,
and to such a large extent ran the USSR.
It strains credulity to suppose that these migrants completely and
immediately threw off all remnants of the Eastern European shtetl
culture-which, as Slezkine acknowledges, had a deep sense of
estrangement from non-Jewish society, a fear and hatred of peasants,
hostility toward the Czarist upper class, and a very negative attitude
toward Christianity.
In other words, the war against what Slezkine terms "rural
backwardness and religion" - major targets of the Revolution -
was exactly the sort of war that traditional Jews would have supported
wholeheartedly, because it was a war against everything they hated and
thought of as oppressing Jews.
However, while Slezkine seems comfortable with the notion of revenge as
a Jewish motive, he does not consider traditional Jewish culture itself
as a possible contributor to Jewish behavior in the new Communist
state.
Moreover, while it was generally true that Jewish servants of the
Soviet regime had ceased being religious Jews, this did not mean they
ceased having a Jewish identity. (Albert Lindeman made this point when
reviewing Slezkine in The American Conservative [article not on line].)
Slezkine quotes the philosopher Vitaly Rubin speaking of his career at
a top Moscow school in the 1930s where over half the students were
Jewish:
"Understandably, the Jewish question did not arise there...All the
Jews knew themselves to be Jews but considered everything to do with
Jewishness a thing of the past...There was no active desire to renounce
one's Jewishness. The problem simply did not exist."
In other words, in the early decades of the Soviet Union, the ruling
class was so heavily a Jewish milieu, that there was no need to
renounce a Jewish identity and no need to aggressively push for Jewish
interests. Jews had achieved elite status.
But ethnic networking continued nonetheless. Indeed, Slezkine reports
that when a leading Soviet spokesmen on anti-Semitism, Yuri Larin
(Lurie), tried to explain the embarrassing fact that Jews were, as he
said, "preeminent, overabundant, dominant, and so on" among the
elite in the Soviet Union, he mentioned the "unusually strong sense
of solidarity and a predisposition toward mutual help and
support"-ethnic networking by any other name.
Obviously, "mutual help and support" required that Jews recognize
each other as Jews. Jewish identity may not have been much discussed.
But it operated nonetheless, even if subconsciously, in the rarified
circles at the top of Soviet society.
Things changed. Slezkine shows that the apparent de-emphasis of Jewish
identity by many members of the Soviet elite during the 1920s and 1930s
turned out to be a poor indicator of whether or not these people
identified as Jews-or would do so when Jewish and Soviet identities
began to diverge in later years: when National Socialism reemphasized
Jewish identity, and when Israel emerged as a magnet for Jewish
sentiment and loyalty.
In the end, despite the rationalizations of many Soviet Jews on Jewish
identity in the early Soviet period, it was blood that mattered.
After World War II, in a process which remains somewhat obscure, the
Russian majority began taking back their country. One method was
"massive affirmative action" aimed at giving greater representation
to underrepresented ethnic groups. Jews became targets of suspicion
because of their ethnic status. They were barred from some elite
institutions, and had their opportunities for advancement limited.
Overt anti-Semitism was encouraged by the more covert official variety
apparent in the limits on Jewish advancement.
Under these circumstances, Slezkine says that Jews became "in many
ways, the core of the antiregime intelligentsia". Applications to
leave the USSR increased dramatically after Israel's Six-Day War of
1967 which, as in the United States and Eastern Europe, resulted in an
upsurge of Jewish identification and ethnic pride. The floodgates were
eventually opened by Gorbachev in the late 1980s. By 1994, 1.2 million
Soviet Jews had emigrated-43% of the total. By 2002, there were only
230,000 Jews remaining in the Russian Federation, 0.16% of the
population.
Nevertheless these remaining Jews remain overrepresented among the
elite. Six of the seven oligarchs who emerged in control of the Soviet
economy and media in the period of de-nationalization of the 1990s were
Jews.
As mentioned above, Slezkine's discussions of the Jewish experience
in the Middle East and America are quite perfunctory in comparison.
Slezkine views the Jewish migration to Israel as heroic and believes
the moral debt owed to Jews by Western societies justifies the most
extreme expressions of Jewish racialism:
"The rhetoric of ethnic homogeneity and ethnic deportations, tabooed
elsewhere in the West is a routine element of Israeli political life...
no other European state can have as strong a claim on the West's
moral imagination."
He sees the moral taboo on European ethnocentrism, the designation of
Nazism as the epitome of absolute evil, and the identification of Jews
as what he calls "the Chosen people of the postwar Western world"
as simply the inevitable results of the events of World War II. In
fact, of course, the creation and maintenance of the culture of the
Holocaust and the special moral claims of Jews and Israel might be more
fairly viewed the intended result of Jewish ethnic activism.
Slezkine's caricature of American history is close to preposterous.
He sees the United States as a Jewish promised land precisely because
it is not defined tribally and "has no state-bearing natives". In
fact, of course, the Founding Fathers very explicitly saw themselves as
Englishmen defending a specific political tradition. But (somewhat like
the Soviet Union's Jews in the early decades) they felt no need to
assert the cultural and ethnic parameters of their creation; they
asssumed the racial and cultural homogeneity of the Republic and
perceived no threat to its control by themselves and their descendants.
And when the Founding Fathers' descendents did percieve such a
threat, they reacted powerfully and decisively, with the Know-Nothing
movement in the 1850s and the Immigration Restriction (and associated
"Americanization" requirements) in the early 20th Century
Slezkine's acceptance of the "Proposition Nation" myth reflects
the triumph of intellectuals and propagandists, many of them Jewish,
led by Horace Kallen in the 1920s. These succesfully replaced the
previously standard view by which many Americans thought of themselves
as members of a very successful ethnic group derived from Great Britain
and with strong cultural and ethnic connections to Europe, particularly
Northern Europe.
The fate of Russia in the first two decades following the Revolution
prompts reflection on what might have happened in the United States had
American communists and their sympathizers assumed power. Sectors of
American society might perhaps have been deemed unacceptably backward
and superstitious and even worthy of mass murder by the American
counterparts of the Jewish elite in the Soviet Union-the ones who
journeyed to Ellis Island instead of Moscow.
Those "red state" voters who have loomed so important in recent
national elections would have been the enemy. The cultural and
religious attitudes of "red state" America are precisely those
attitudes that have been deemed changeworthy by the left, particularly
by the Jewish community, which has been the driving force of the left
in America throughout the 20th century.
As Joel Kotkin points out, "for generations, [American] Jews have
viewed religious conservatives with a combination of fear and
disdain."
And, as Elliott Abrams had noted, the American Jewish community
"clings to what is at bottom a dark vision of America, as a land
permeated with anti-Semitism..."
The dark view of traditional Slavs and their culture that caused so
many Eastern European shtetl Jews to become "willing executioners"
in the name of international socialism is unmistakably related, however
remotely, to the views of some contemporary American Jews about a
majority of their fellow countrymen.
Slezkine's main point is that the most important factor for
understanding the history of the 20th century is the rise of the Jews
in the West and the Middle East, and their rise and decline in Russia.
I think he is absolutely right about this.
If there is any lesson to be learned, it is that Jews not only became
an elite in all these areas, they became a hostile elite-hostile to
the traditional people and cultures of all three areas they came to
dominate.
So far, the greatest human tragedies have occurred in the Soviet Union.
But the presence of Israel in the Middle East is creating obvious
dangers there. And alienation remains a potent motive for the
disproportionate Jewish involvement in the transformation of the U.S.
into a non-European society through non-traditional immigration.
Given this record of Jews as a very successful but hostile elite, it is
possible that the continued demographic and cultural dominance of
Western European peoples will not be retained, either in Europe or the
United States, without a decline in Jewish influence.
But the lesson of the Soviet Union (as also Spain from the 15th-17th
centuries) is that Jewish influence does wane as well as wax. Unlike
the attitudes of the utopian ideologies of the 20th century, there is
no end to history.
Kevin MacDonald is Professor of Psychology at California State
University-Long Beach.
This article is adapted from a longer review
http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol5no3/53-km-slezkine.pdf
published in the Fall 2005 issue of The Occidental Quarterly.
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01 Apr 2006 05:23:08 AM |
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On 22 Mar 2006 12:31:51 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
[all words and letters snipped, recycled]
Why humans fear fundamentalists...
.... they can see, hear, read and think.
Christopher = 'bearing, carrying Christ'
So in the service of the church and king, Christopher Columbus voyaged
to the 'new world', seeking to pillage and plunder to obtain riches to
be used by the church to further its empire.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/columbus.html
So in bringing Christianity to the 'savages' of the new world,
Christopher and crew were known to:
1] grab suckling babies from their mother's bosom, swing them by the
legs to smash their heads against any nearby rock or tree, then toss
the mangled body to their attack dogs.
2] whack innocent Indians in half, on petty bets, to see who's sword
was sharpest, so as to do it in the fewest strokes.
3] behead 8 y.o. kids carrying pet birds, just for sport
4] Slice flesh from Indians to test the sharpness of their knives
5] hang Indians from a beam and slow roast them alive over a fire, 13
at a time. Why 13? To honor Jesus and the 12 apostles of course!
And that was only the beginning. The English Christians were far more
brutal. They even hung other white Christians who held alternative
beliefs than the fundamentalist Puritans exercising political
authority. When the king heard reports of his subjects being so
mistreated and made inquiries, the governor of Massachusetts wrote
back explaining that while the Quakers committed no capital crime
whatsoever, they questioned their authority and the beliefs of the
local church, so they just HAD to be hung.
One might note that the native populations in USA and Canada are
virtually wiped out, the remnants having little if any control of
their lives or freedom to determine their own destiny. Whereas south
of the border, indigenous populations who were subjected more to the
Spanish and Portuguese atrocities fared better and are still in the
majority. The Mexican population, even though still dominated by
Spaniards and other foreigners, consists of 30% fullblood native and
60% mixed blood.
About 1685, the colonizer's assigned Pastorius to establish a
community in the 'new world'. Pastorius did a demographic survey of
'his domain' and reported back thusly:
"Concerning the Inhabitants of this Province
Of these, three sorts may be found: 1. The natives, the so-called
savages. 2. The Christians who have come here from Europe, the
so-called Old Settlers. 3. The newly-arrived Associations and
Companies.
So far as concerns the first, the savages, they are, in general,
strong, agile and supple people, with blackish bodies; they went about
naked at first and only wore a cloth about the loins. Now they are
beginning to wear shirts. They have, usually, coal-black hair, shave
the head, smear the same with grease, and allow a long lock to grow on
the right side. They also besmear the children with grease, and let
them creep about in the heat of the sun, so that they become the color
of a nut, although they were white enough by nature.
They strive after a sincere honesty, hold strictly to their promises,
cheat and injure no one. They willingly give shelter to others, and
are both useful and loyal to their guests.
Their huts are made of young trees, twined, or bent, together, which
they know how to roof over with bark. They use neither table nor
bench, nor any other household stuff, unless perchance a single pot in
which they boil their food.
I once saw four of them take a meal together in hearty contentment,
and eat a pumpkin cooked in clear water, without butter and spice.
Their table and bench was the bare earth, their spoons were
mussel-shells, with which they dipped up the warm water, their plates
were the leaves of the nearest tree, which they did not need to wash
with painstaking after a meal, nor to keep with care for future use. I
thought to myself, these savages have never in their lives heard the
teaching of Jesus concerning temperance and contentment, yet they far
excel the Christians in carrying it out.
They are, furthermore, serious and of few words, and are amazed when
they perceive so much unnecessary chatter, as well as other foolish
behavior on the part of Christians.
Each man has his own wife, and they detest harlotry, kissing and
lying. They know no idols, but they worship a single all-powerful and
merciful God, who limits the power of the devil. They also believe in
the immortality of the soul, which, after the course of life is
finished, has a suitable recompense from the all-powerful hand of God
awaiting it.
They accompany their own worship of God with songs, during which they
make strange gestures and motions with the hands and feet, and when
they recall the death of their parents and friends, they begin to wail
and weep most pitifully.
They listen very willingly, and not without perceptible emotion, to
discourse concerning the Creator of Heaven and earth, and His divine
Light, which enlightens all men who have come into the world, and who
are yet to be born, and concerning the wisdom and love of God, because
of which he gave his only-begotten and most dearly-loved Son to die
for us. It is only to be regretted that we can not yet speak their
language readily, and therefore cannot set forth to them the thoughts
and intent of our own hearts, namely how great a power and salvation
lies concealed in Christ Jesus. They are very quiet and thoughtful in
our gatherings, so that I fully believe that in the future, at the
great day of judgment, they will come forth with those of Tyre and
Sidon, and put to shame many thousands of false nominal and canting
Christians.
As for their economy and housekeeping, the men attend to their hunting
and fishing. The women bring up their children honestly, under
careful oversight and dissuade them from sin. They plant Indian corn
and beans round about their huts, but they take no thought for any
more extensive farming and cattle raising; they are rather astonished
that we Christians take so much trouble and thought concerning eating
and drinking and also for comfortable clothing and dwellings, as if we
doubted that God were able to care for and nourish us.
Their native language is very dignified, and in its pronunciation much
resembles Italian, although the words are entirely different and
strange. They are accustomed to paint their faces with colors; both
men and women use tobacco with pleasure; they divert themselves with
fifes, or trumpets, in unbroken idleness.
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The second sort of Inhabitants on the province are the old Christians,
who came here from Europe.
These have never had the upright intention to give these native
creatures instruction in the true living Christianity, but instead
they have sought only their own worldly interests, and have cheated
the simple inhabitants in trade and intercourse, so that at length
those savages who dealt with these Christians, proved themselves to be
also for the most part, crafty, lying, and deceitful, so that I can
not say much that is creditable of either. These misguided people are
wont to exchange the skins and peltry which they obtain for strong
drink, and to drink so much that they can neither walk nor stand; also
they are wont to commit all sorts of thievery, as the occasion may
arise.
Owing to this, their kings and rulers have frequently complained of
the sins of falsehood, deceit, thieving, and drunkenness, introduced
here by the Christians, and which were formerly entirely unknown in
these parts."
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Francis Daniel Pastorius, on the founding of the settlement at
Germantown, "at a distance of two hours walk from Philadelphia", 1685
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Many years later, as the evangelicals sought to 'civilize' the
surviving Indians, one missionary made a visit to a Cherokee village.
Seeking permission to preach, he was interviewed by one of the
Cherokee elders, who wanted to ascertain the nature of the minister's
message.
The elder listened intently as the minister read some chapters from
the gospel of Matthew. Then, after pondering on those scriptural
words, he remarked 'That sounds like a good book. It is strange though
that you white people are not better persons, you have had it so
long.'
A tree is known by its fruits. Just what fruits has the tree of
Christianity born over the last 2000 years?
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01 Apr 2006 07:26:13 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 06:23:08 -0500, wrote:
How many times are you going to cross-post this, under different
subjects?
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02 Apr 2006 09:42:37 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism
no.1@7th.heaven wrote:
How many times are you going to cross-post this, under different
subjects?
I got 7 of 'em. I figure it must be to go with the 7th in his email
name.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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22 Mar 2006 03:59:23 PM |
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On 22 Mar 2006 12:31:51 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
*****, Raytard
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22 Mar 2006 05:50:32 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Sound of Contra-Bass Clarinet
(soundof@trombone.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 22 Mar 2006 12:31:51 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
*****, Raytard
I don't think SOT is Raytard. AFAIK, the 'tard still posts from USWEST.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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22 Mar 2006 02:38:16 PM |
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Stalin was right Christians deserved everything that's coming to them.
After all how is the flock going to grow without a little well deserved
persecution. Given what Bush & his christian soldiers are doing in
Iraq.... rape,pillage and murder no wonder everyone outside the communion
cup hates these fiends of Jesus!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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22 Mar 2006 02:51:47 PM |
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"Kevin Hollingsworth" <kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:YAiUf.26814$zr.8792@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
Stalin was right Christians deserved everything that's coming to them.
After all how is the flock going to grow without a little well deserved
persecution. Given what Bush & his christian soldiers are doing in
Iraq.... rape,pillage and murder no wonder everyone outside the communion
cup hates these fiends of Jesus!
Less words!!
(sorry) :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Kevin Hollingsworth" |
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22 Mar 2006 02:54:54 PM |
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CCCP
Sometimes they comeback!
Nuff said!
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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22 Mar 2006 08:54:26 PM |
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Kevin Hollingsworth wrote:
Stalin was right Christians deserved everything that's coming to them.
After all how is the flock going to grow without a little well deserved
persecution.
<sarcasm>As true of every other group as it is of Christians. When
Hitler was alive, the Jews never had it so good. </sarcasm>
TCross
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22 Mar 2006 05:02:52 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:38:16 GMT, "Kevin Hollingsworth"
<kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Stalin was right Christians deserved everything that's coming to them.
After all how is the flock going to grow without a little well deserved
persecution.
Actually, there is no need to persecute xtians, their imaginations do that, far
better than any reality, ever could.
Given what Bush & his christian soldiers are doing in
Iraq.... rape,pillage and murder no wonder everyone outside the communion
cup hates these fiends of Jesus!
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