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"justiz" |
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03 Mar 2007 10:48:02 AM |
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Have they ever scored? |
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 01:41:27 AM |
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"justiz" <izstan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this
group where a religionist has come out on top
in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
A topic? Never that I've seen. A bible thumper will
get the better of someone in the odd exchange, but
never a whole topic? Like coming out on top in the
thread? Please.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
03 Mar 2007 11:14:22 PM |
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"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172940482.692761.225510@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
The religionists have a tendency to slither off
screaming "Victory!" while being followed by
hoots of laughter. Many of them wait a few
months, return using a new name and end up
with the same result.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
03 Mar 2007 03:20:37 PM |
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"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Convicted by Earthquack
Plonked by Fester
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
03 Mar 2007 05:44:18 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for
days now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
I think a lot of them come from an environment where everybody thinks the
way they do and they all know the arguments which are "absolute proofs" for
their beliefs. They come, secure in the knowledge that once presented
everyone will convert. They have never been presented with and never though
about other arguments. Pascal's wager and the argument from cause are
usually presented as absolute truth.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 12:04:41 AM |
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In article <mLnGh.6359$BE2.5718@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for
days now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
I think a lot of them come from an environment where everybody thinks the
way they do and they all know the arguments which are "absolute proofs" for
their beliefs. They come, secure in the knowledge that once presented
everyone will convert. They have never been presented with and never though
about other arguments. Pascal's wager and the argument from cause are
usually presented as absolute truth.
Or to put it another way as I saw on a bumper sticker once:
"God did it.
The Bible said it.
I believe it.
And that settles it."
Fundy theology in a nutshell.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "jem" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 07:19:17 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:04:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <mLnGh.6359$BE2.5718@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for
days now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
I think a lot of them come from an environment where everybody thinks the
way they do and they all know the arguments which are "absolute proofs" for
their beliefs. They come, secure in the knowledge that once presented
everyone will convert. They have never been presented with and never though
about other arguments. Pascal's wager and the argument from cause are
usually presented as absolute truth.
Or to put it another way as I saw on a bumper sticker once:
"God did it.
The Bible said it.
I believe it.
And that settles it."
Fundy theology in a nutshell.
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 04:46:19 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:04:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <mLnGh.6359$BE2.5718@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for
days now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
I think a lot of them come from an environment where everybody thinks the
way they do and they all know the arguments which are "absolute proofs"
for
their beliefs. They come, secure in the knowledge that once presented
everyone will convert. They have never been presented with and never
though
about other arguments. Pascal's wager and the argument from cause are
usually presented as absolute truth.
Or to put it another way as I saw on a bumper sticker once:
"God did it.
The Bible said it.
I believe it.
And that settles it."
Fundy theology in a nutshell.
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
Well, Uncle Vic has this as his sig:
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³It's all very simple : you believe in a god, I don't. Theists first invented
the concept of god or gods, and the sceptical people said : "Huh?". It's been
downhill from there. ;-)³ - Olrik
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 06:25:20 PM |
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In article <skhlu25mbr6me9qcpn7m5vno5jlb5cd4pb@4ax.com>,
jem <A0054883@airmail.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:04:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <mLnGh.6359$BE2.5718@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for
days now.
I think they come here to be spanked.
I think a lot of them come from an environment where everybody thinks the
way they do and they all know the arguments which are "absolute proofs"
for
their beliefs. They come, secure in the knowledge that once presented
everyone will convert. They have never been presented with and never
though
about other arguments. Pascal's wager and the argument from cause are
usually presented as absolute truth.
Or to put it another way as I saw on a bumper sticker once:
"God did it.
The Bible said it.
I believe it.
And that settles it."
Fundy theology in a nutshell.
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
LOL! I don't know, but if anybody finds out, I'd like to know too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
04 Mar 2007 09:17:39 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:19:17 +0100, jem <A0054883@airmail.net> wrote:
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
Little fish-hook stickers could also work. :-)
I basically ignore the christerfish treating the as a sign saying "idiot on
board." It's like people who leave their turn signals on: it's a warning to
other drivers that the person behind the wheel isn't all there and should be
given wide bearth. I used to try to get them to turn off their signal;
nowadays I simply take the warning and move on.
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| User: "jem" |
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04 Mar 2007 10:50:38 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:17:39 GMT, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:19:17 +0100, jem <A0054883@airmail.net> wrote:
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
Little fish-hook stickers could also work. :-)
I basically ignore the christerfish treating the as a sign saying "idiot on
board." It's like people who leave their turn signals on: it's a warning to
other drivers that the person behind the wheel isn't all there and should be
given wide bearth. I used to try to get them to turn off their signal;
nowadays I simply take the warning and move on.
So true.
I am working in Italy these days, and half of them leave the blinker
on for miles at a time. Change lanes to the right, the whole time the
left blinker is on, very strange. Back home, it's usually a senior
citizen or they are buzzed or preoccupied.
I'm looking for the stickers, there's an American in this town that
brought his SUV, got the idiot on board sign too. My first target.
HA!
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Mar 2007 01:35:54 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM>
bloodied us up with this:
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:19:17 +0100, jem <A0054883@airmail.net> wrote:
plenty bumper stickers like that around my house in Georgia.
I want some of the little plastic doo-dad legs to stick under the fish
on the backs of their cars, I'd seriously do it!
Anybody know where I can get them?
Little fish-hook stickers could also work. :-)
I basically ignore the christerfish treating the as a sign saying
"idiot on board." It's like people who leave their turn signals on:
it's a warning to other drivers that the person behind the wheel isn't
all there and should be given wide bearth. I used to try to get them
to turn off their signal; nowadays I simply take the warning and move
on.
I have a hard enough time teaching them to use them in the first place...
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
03 Mar 2007 03:13:12 PM |
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"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172940482.692761.225510
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Quite often they think they have. "The Bible says God did it, so there!"
is a winning argument in their tiny little minds.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western
Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this
at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly
insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are
so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty
neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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| User: "JTEM" |
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04 Mar 2007 01:44:58 AM |
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Enkidu <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote:
Quite often they think they have. "The Bible
says God did it, so there!" is a winning
argument in their tiny little minds.
That works both ways. Quite a few people think
"Your mother wears army boots," or a similar
statement, effectively refutes all theistic claims.
But, even then, SOMEBODY in the thread puts the
facts on record. So coming out on top FOR A TOPIC
would, for a theist, would represent a monumental
feat.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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03 Mar 2007 03:56:35 PM |
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On 3 Mar 2007 08:48:02 -0800, "justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1172940482.692761.225510@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Depends what you mean by "religionist".
There have always been non-mainstream folk with roll-yer-own beliefs
who are quite sane and honest, who come out on top as often as we
atheists.
Although, I think I know what you are getting at.
Apart from occasional accidental flashes of honesty from a true fundy,
I can remember no event such as the one that you appear to be
searching for.
They are all inveterate compulsive liars, these fundies.
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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03 Mar 2007 03:28:44 PM |
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On 3 Mar 2007 08:48:02 -0800, "justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
It's impossible. Xians are just a pack of liars and the good folks in
a.a. would never let them get away with it.
___________________
Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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03 Mar 2007 11:14:29 AM |
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justiz wrote:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
I seem to recall that there have been a few, but the topic has not
been religion!
Jim
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Have they ever scored? |
03 Mar 2007 11:57:42 AM |
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justiz wrote:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Once upon a time in T.O. a christian posted the Darwin deathbed myth. He was
of course the subject of a few comments...
He came back a week later having researched it (!!!), found out he was
wrong, admitted it, and apologised.
I think he came out on top.
(I am NOT making this up.)
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| User: "Syd M." |
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03 Mar 2007 04:46:01 PM |
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On Mar 3, 12:57 pm, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
justiz wrote:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Once upon a time in T.O. a christian posted the Darwin deathbed myth. He was
of course the subject of a few comments...
He came back a week later having researched it (!!!), found out he was
wrong, admitted it, and apologised.
I think he came out on top.
(I am NOT making this up.)
Woah.. That is unusual.
Pretty rare occurence. Hope ya filed it, tagged it, and all the rest.
PDW
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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03 Mar 2007 11:58:31 PM |
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justiz:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Unless said believer basically just announced "I believe in XY, my belief is
not logical and I admit it", it's hard to imagine that. ;)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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04 Mar 2007 01:32:38 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:58:31 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote:
- Refer: <esdn65$ikk$2@online.de>
justiz:
Can anyone direct me to any posting(s) in this group where a
religionist has come out on top in a topic? I've been looking for days
now.
Unless said believer basically just announced "I believe in XY, my belief is
not logical and I admit it", it's hard to imagine that. ;)
Pangur has done exactly that admirable thing, as has one Christian,
believe it or not.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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04 Mar 2007 09:57:36 AM |
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Michael Gray:
Unless said believer basically just announced "I believe in XY, my belief
is not logical and I admit it", it's hard to imagine that. ;)
Pangur has done exactly that admirable thing, as has one Christian,
believe it or not.
Now that you mentioned Pangur, is it fair for me to annonce that I see
things just the same, or would that be presumptious? :)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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04 Mar 2007 04:41:03 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:57:36 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote:
- Refer: <eseq9c$ujh$1@online.de>
Michael Gray:
Unless said believer basically just announced "I believe in XY, my belief
is not logical and I admit it", it's hard to imagine that. ;)
Pangur has done exactly that admirable thing, as has one Christian,
believe it or not.
Now that you mentioned Pangur, is it fair for me to annonce that I see
things just the same, or would that be presumptious? :)
Well, I was going to include you in that list, but assumed that you
were aware of your natural inclusion in same!
The Dalai Lama is in some illustrious company, eh? :)
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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04 Mar 2007 07:52:55 PM |
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Michael Gray:
The Dalai Lama is in some illustrious company, eh? :)
Hopefully so :)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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