"Rv Cloim" <cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote in message
news:<pan.2003.10.08.05.17.47.1921@propylaea.tor.org>...

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:32:30 +0000, Yang, What About Overrated White
Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey? wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:36:13 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

Steve Watson wrote:

Yesterday, the CBC Radio 7am news carried an item on the California
recall/election. It included sound-bite interviews with several
voters (all of whom were Xn fundamentalists), the gist of which
seemed to be that they were going to vote for Schwarznegger because:
1) Davis is a screw-up who wasted their money and raised taxes, 2)
Arnold is a good Republican like them, who 3) will run the state
well and lower taxes.

So, what about the reports/admissions that he groped various women
over the years? "Well, no one's perfect..." "That's in the past,
and he's confessed to it and apologized..." The cynic in me asks:
if the guy was a Democrat, would these fine upstanding Christians be
so quick to let him off the hook?

It's one more data point for my long-standing opinion that the
American "Christian" Right are hypocritical idolators whose real god
is their own economic and social welfare (an opinion I formed some
20 years ago, when -- be it noted -- I was myself a fundamentalist).

(Note: I'm expressing no opinion here on whether Arnold would be any
good as governor -- not my state, not my issue).

-- Steve

If he was a Democrat, they would have never heard of the allegations
in the first place. The LA Times would have buried them.

You mean like the time LA Times first broke the 'Troopergate' story on
Clinton?

I can't speak specifically for the LA Times, but most news agencies like
to pretend they are impartial.

Most actually bend-over-backwards for the "right" to prove they are not
for the "left". Except FOX. They never pretended to be anything other
than a shill for the extreme right-wing.

jwk

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:15:09 GMT, "Rv Cloim" <cloim@propylaea.tor.org>
wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:32:30 +0000, Yang, What About Overrated White
Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey? wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:36:13 -0400, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

Steve Watson wrote:

Yesterday, the CBC Radio 7am news carried an item on the California
recall/election. It included sound-bite interviews with several
voters (all of whom were Xn fundamentalists), the gist of which
seemed to be that they were going to vote for Schwarznegger because:
1) Davis is a screw-up who wasted their money and raised taxes, 2)
Arnold is a good Republican like them, who 3) will run the state well
and lower taxes.

So, what about the reports/admissions that he groped various women
over the years? "Well, no one's perfect..." "That's in the past,
and he's confessed to it and apologized..." The cynic in me asks: if
the guy was a Democrat, would these fine upstanding Christians be so
quick to let him off the hook?

It's one more data point for my long-standing opinion that the
American "Christian" Right are hypocritical idolators whose real god
is their own economic and social welfare (an opinion I formed some 20
years ago, when -- be it noted -- I was myself a fundamentalist).

(Note: I'm expressing no opinion here on whether Arnold would be any
good as governor -- not my state, not my issue).

-- Steve

If he was a Democrat, they would have never heard of the allegations in
the first place. The LA Times would have buried them.

You mean like the time LA Times first broke the 'Troopergate' story on
Clinton?

I can't speak specifically for the LA Times, but most news agencies like
to pretend they are impartial.

But of course since Arnold truns out to be a GOP, all the rightwing
hypocrites who whine about sexual imrpopriety are all of a sudden
strangely quiet. Why is that?

For the same reason that the leftwing hypocrites who said that it wasn't
important are now outraged and indignant.

Like FAUX News?

Assume the verdict is guilty for your enemies, and innocent for your
friends.


Personally, I prefer the American ideal, innocent until proven guilty.

Or premption until proven spurrious?

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:34:24 -0400, Fred Stone is still answering
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey? wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:36:13 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

Steve Watson wrote:

Yesterday, the CBC Radio 7am news carried an item on the California
recall/election. It included sound-bite interviews with several
voters (all of whom were Xn fundamentalists), the gist of which seemed
to be that they were going to vote for Schwarznegger because: 1) Davis
is a screw-up who wasted their money and raised taxes, 2) Arnold is a
good Republican like them, who 3) will run the state well and lower
taxes.

So, what about the reports/admissions that he groped various women
over the years? "Well, no one's perfect..." "That's in the past, and
he's confessed to it and apologized..." The cynic in me asks: if the
guy was a Democrat, would these fine upstanding Christians be so quick
to let him off the hook?

It's one more data point for my long-standing opinion that the
American "Christian" Right are hypocritical idolators whose real god
is their own economic and social welfare (an opinion I formed some 20
years ago, when -- be it noted -- I was myself a fundamentalist).

(Note: I'm expressing no opinion here on whether Arnold would be any
good as governor -- not my state, not my issue).

-- Steve

If he was a Democrat, they would have never heard of the allegations in
the first place. The LA Times would have buried them.

You mean like the time LA Times first broke the 'Troopergate' story on
Clinton?

But of course since Arnold truns out to be a GOP, all the rightwing
hypocrites who whine about sexual imrpopriety are all of a sudden
strangely quiet. Why is that?

Why? Because Clinton set a new precedent. They decided that it must be
no big deal, since so many Democrats said so, after all.

So from now on it's okay for all of us to lie about wars because Bush
has done such deceitful jobs right?

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <vo67irq4uu7f14@news.supernews.com>:

# Fear gan dia wrote:
#
# > Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
# > in <vo5jqbq1c978c3@news.supernews.com>:
# >
# <...>
# > # If he was a Democrat, they would have never heard of the allegations in
# > # the first place. The LA Times would have buried them.
# >
# > Yeah, like the "librull meeja" buried the allegations against
# > Clinton. Give me a break!
# >
#
# Now who is a revisionist? NEWSWEEK was sitting on the story when Drudge
# broke it, remember?

Oh please. Newsweek spiked Isikoff's story because he only had
one source, and she had spoken off the record - and lied to him.

http://www.salon.com/media/1998/06/12mediab.html