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"J Young" |
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02 May 2005 08:56:27 PM |
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Heart patient dies day after bike trek |
It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
http://www.fftimes.com/index.php/6/2005-05-02/21129
A man who pedaled across the country after heart bypass surgery gave
him a second chance at life has died of a heart attack-one day after
completing the 3,800-km trip.
Broc Bebout, a 57-year-old retired engineer, died Thursday on the
van drive back to his home in Anderson-one day after completing the
ride from Carlsbad, Calif. to Brunswick, Ga.
His wife, Patricia Brinkman, said bicycling became Bebout's
ticket to nearly 20 years of good health after quadruple-bypass surgery
at age 39. He also learned to eat right and take care of himself, she
added.
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him: "An incredible
experience with incredible people."
"It was a trip of a lifetime," she said. "We all have a list
of things we like to say we did. That was right up there at the top."
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02 May 2005 09:03:48 PM |
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J Young wrote:
It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
http://www.fftimes.com/index.php/6/2005-05-02/21129
A man who pedaled across the country after heart bypass surgery gave
him a second chance at life has died of a heart attack-one day after
completing the 3,800-km trip.
Broc Bebout, a 57-year-old retired engineer, died Thursday on the
van drive back to his home in Anderson-one day after completing the
ride from Carlsbad, Calif. to Brunswick, Ga.
His wife, Patricia Brinkman, said bicycling became Bebout's
ticket to nearly 20 years of good health after quadruple-bypass
surgery
at age 39. He also learned to eat right and take care of himself, she
added.
I'm not so sure that a 3,800km bike ride would be considered as
taking care of himself. I bet he would have lived even longer had he
not taken the bike ride.
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him: "An incredible
experience with incredible people."
"It was a trip of a lifetime,"
You ain't kiddin' there.
she said. "We all have a list
of things we like to say we did. That was right up there at the top."
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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02 May 2005 09:24:26 PM |
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On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Ein Prosit der GemŸtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "rj" |
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02 May 2005 09:40:56 PM |
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Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str> wrote in
news:n4od71p2s11vds1o8kqdoomolloeh1uf5c@4ax.com:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Ein Prosit der GemŸtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
Ever hear of tuna steaks?
Highly unlikely that he ate tuna steak, but possible.
I look at it like this. Why should I be miserable eating no fat or low fat
for 90 years. I will eat what I want in moderation and live to be 85.
r
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"I'm an atheist, thank God." - Dave Allen
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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02 May 2005 09:53:31 PM |
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 02:40:56 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str> wrote in
news:n4od71p2s11vds1o8kqdoomolloeh1uf5c@4ax.com:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Ein Prosit der GemÙtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
Ever hear of tuna steaks?
And turkey sausage, might I add.
Highly unlikely that he ate tuna steak, but possible.
It's also possible that it's feeding time for the invisible lesbian
monkey sitting on your computer.
I look at it like this. Why should I be miserable eating no fat or low fat
for 90 years. I will eat what I want in moderation and live to be 85.
And your quadruple bypass was when?
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| User: "rj" |
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03 May 2005 03:29:52 AM |
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Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str> wrote in
news:kppd719kctigdt7cn8c4b2c3kmih5l3hgq@4ax.com:
On Tue, 03 May 2005 02:40:56 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str> wrote in
news:n4od71p2s11vds1o8kqdoomolloeh1uf5c@4ax.com:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Ein Prosit der GemÙtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
Ever hear of tuna steaks?
And turkey sausage, might I add.
Highly unlikely that he ate tuna steak, but possible.
It's also possible that it's feeding time for the invisible lesbian
monkey sitting on your computer.
I look at it like this. Why should I be miserable eating no fat or low
fat for 90 years. I will eat what I want in moderation and live to be
85.
And your quadruple bypass was when?
And you ironed you shirt when?
rj
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"I'm an atheist, thank God." - Dave Allen
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| User: "towelie" |
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03 May 2005 01:08:59 AM |
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TV's rj wrote:
Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str> wrote in
news:n4od71p2s11vds1o8kqdoomolloeh1uf5c@4ax.com:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Ein Prosit der GemŸtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
Ever hear of tuna steaks?
Highly unlikely that he ate tuna steak, but possible.
I look at it like this. Why should I be miserable eating no fat or low
fat
for 90 years. I will eat what I want in moderation and live to be 85.
I'd rather eat what I wanted in the amounts I want to and live to be 70. A
wise man once said "Hope I die before I get old" and I must agree with him.
I'd rather have 40 good years than 80 miserable years.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Heart patient dies day after bike trek |
03 May 2005 11:57:27 AM |
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Bonnie ***** wrote:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his
aorta.
Because *one* steak isn't going to make a significant
difference?
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Jos Flachs no x, please" |
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04 May 2005 07:55:12 AM |
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On 3 May 2005 09:57:27 -0700, wrote:
Bonnie ***** wrote:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his
aorta.
Because *one* steak isn't going to make a significant
difference?
Apparently it did for him.
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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04 May 2005 03:37:18 PM |
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Bonnie ***** wrote:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
Umm, his bypass surgery was 20 years ago, and since then he had led an
active life.
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
Just because it's steak doesn't mean it's fatty. There are plenty of lean
cuts.
Glenn Arnold
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| User: "John Baker" |
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03 May 2005 09:35:25 AM |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 19:24:26 -0700, Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str>
wrote:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his aorta.
I'd rather live to be 60 and enjoy it than live to be 90 and not even
remember what a steak tastes like.
Ein Prosit der Gemütlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "Mickey" |
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04 May 2005 03:46:59 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2005 19:24:26 -0700, Bonnie ***** <123@sesame.str>
wrote:
On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him
What the HELL***** was a quadruple-bypass survivor doing eating a
steak?
WTF, why didn't he just inject the fat and cholesterol into his
aorta.
I'd rather live to be 60 and enjoy it than live to be 90 and not even
remember what a steak tastes like.
ROFL!!! My father always used to tell my mother (when she was bitching
about his weight) that he'd rather live 75 happy years than 85 years as
a herbivore. he lived to be 86, and died ONLY because she did and he
was lonely.
Mickey
"there will never be an intelligent herbivore, as it takes no brains to
sneak up on a blade of grass" Albert Einstein
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| User: "JPG" |
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04 May 2005 06:11:32 AM |
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On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
http://www.fftimes.com/index.php/6/2005-05-02/21129
Some sick ***** god that takes away a man's life at 57. Try as I might I
can't see how even the most rabid fundy would use this story as evidence of a
god. Evidence of good medicine maybe.
...despairing ..
JPG
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| User: "John Baker" |
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03 May 2005 09:33:13 AM |
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On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
And it's drivel like this that convinces me that you must be an idiot.
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| User: "Kate " |
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03 May 2005 10:41:05 AM |
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On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
Uh, the man died. Didn't you notice? And it wasn't a God that gave
him the heart bypass surgery, it was a doctor.
http://www.fftimes.com/index.php/6/2005-05-02/21129
A man who pedaled across the country after heart bypass surgery gave
him a second chance at life has died of a heart attack-one day after
completing the 3,800-km trip.
Broc Bebout, a 57-year-old retired engineer, died Thursday on the
van drive back to his home in Anderson-one day after completing the
ride from Carlsbad, Calif. to Brunswick, Ga.
His wife, Patricia Brinkman, said bicycling became Bebout's
ticket to nearly 20 years of good health after quadruple-bypass surgery
at age 39. He also learned to eat right and take care of himself, she
added.
In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
Bebout described what the trip had meant to him: "An incredible
experience with incredible people."
"It was a trip of a lifetime," she said. "We all have a list
of things we like to say we did. That was right up there at the top."
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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04 May 2005 03:16:05 AM |
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I guess a lawsuit against G-d would be out of the question?
*grin*
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:42d69ae5.657825171@news-west.newscene.com...
: On 2 May 2005 18:56:27 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
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: >It's stories like this that convince that there must be a God.
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: Uh, the man died. Didn't you notice? And it wasn't a God that gave
: him the heart bypass surgery, it was a doctor.
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: >
: >http://www.fftimes.com/index.php/6/2005-05-02/21129
: >
: >
: >A man who pedaled across the country after heart bypass surgery gave
: >him a second chance at life has died of a heart attack-one day after
: >completing the 3,800-km trip.
: >
: > Broc Bebout, a 57-year-old retired engineer, died Thursday on the
: >van drive back to his home in Anderson-one day after completing the
: >ride from Carlsbad, Calif. to Brunswick, Ga.
: >
: > His wife, Patricia Brinkman, said bicycling became Bebout's
: >ticket to nearly 20 years of good health after quadruple-bypass
surgery
: >at age 39. He also learned to eat right and take care of himself, she
: >added.
: >
: > In an e-mail to her Wednesday before a celebratory steak dinner,
: >Bebout described what the trip had meant to him: "An incredible
: >experience with incredible people."
: >
: > "It was a trip of a lifetime," she said. "We all have a list
: >of things we like to say we did. That was right up there at the top."
:
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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04 May 2005 01:59:38 PM |
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"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
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I guess a lawsuit against G-d would be out of the question?
*grin*
I hear tell the Pope is his representative on Earth.
For a guy who gave up all his worldy posessions, he's gotta lotta gold in
that mansion.
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| User: "RS" |
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04 May 2005 10:55:23 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:uY8ee.1092$7U.407@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:br%de.33$Go.30@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
I guess a lawsuit against G-d would be out of the question?
*grin*
I hear tell the Pope is his representative on Earth.
For a guy who gave up all his worldy posessions, he's gotta lotta gold in
that mansion.
Have you ever been in the papal apartment? If not, why do you make such a
claim? Nothing in the papal office belongs to the pope, outside of gifts
given to him by others. Even then, the gifts still belong to the office,
not to the person. Why do you make such claims that you cannot support?
Or is a man who is the governor of a city-state not allowed to have a roof
over his head? Is he not allowed to live in a single apartment of a palace?
Does this reflect in any way on his morality? What of men and women who are
independently wealthy? All of their possessions are their own and they live
in wealth that is their own. Does that make them any less worthy of being
called children of God, if they are?
The Pope is the vicar of Christ. He is a steward, only. He is a servant to
the true king. Nothing that he has is his own. Rather, the material
possessions entrusted to him have been given to him as gifts.... or does a
few pieces of gold mark him unworthy of his position?
Everyone claims that the Vatican has so much money... that we have so many
riches locked up in the vaults of the city-state. This is simply not true.
There are many items that would raise much money in auction, many exensive
buildings, many brilliant works of art, many sacred religious items that
are, in fact, made of gold. These things, however, aren't prized for their
monetary value, but their artistic and spiritual value... would you have a
museum of fine art sell all of its materials? No, because that would be
foolish.
Rather, for the Vatican to operate it has to collect money from benefactors
and make money on its own. That is why the city-state has a grocery store,
a department store, a gas station, and other things, to pay for the cost of
operation. Or are we not allowed to have gardens, a basillica, or a place
where we know our pontiff will be safe and comfortable? How dare we be
comfortable....
Very few people realize this. The Vatican city-state is barely making ends
meet in regards to cost of operation.
One last question:
If you were to have a wonderful painting given to you by a friend and you
were low on money, would you sell that gift and thereby reject the
intentions of the gift-giver, or would you keep it and honor it for the
spirit in which it was given?
-RS
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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05 May 2005 12:10:01 AM |
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"RS" <rswarts@bu.edu> wrote in message news:d5c5g9$48p$1@news3.bu.edu...
"Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote in message
Have you ever been in the papal apartment? If not, why do you make such a
claim? Nothing in the papal office belongs to the pope, outside of gifts
It all belongs to the pope.
He controls it - it's his.
God knows, it doesn't belong to the bankrupt dioceseseses here in the US.
They're all bankrupt.
Or is a man who is the governor of a city-state not allowed to have a roof
over his head? Is he not allowed to live in a single apartment of a
palace? Does this reflect in any way on his morality?
I wouldn't have thought so - but your overly jealous defense of him raises a
warning bell or two.
You're sofa king, stupid.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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04 May 2005 11:11:20 PM |
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RS wrote:
<snip>
Everyone claims that the Vatican has so much money... that we have so
many riches locked up in the vaults of the city-state. This is
simply not true. There are many items that would raise much money in
auction, many exensive buildings, many brilliant works of art, many
sacred religious items that are, in fact, made of gold. These
things, however, aren't prized for their monetary value, but their
artistic and spiritual value... would you have a museum of fine art
sell all of its materials? No, because that would be foolish.
Have you been in the banks? Are you saying that 1.1 billion people can't
support the man and his little plot of land?
Why shouldn't the wealth be sold to other museums? Or did your christ's
comment about selling all only apply to the flock?
Rather, for the Vatican to operate it has to collect money from
benefactors and make money on its own. That is why the city-state
has a grocery store, a department store, a gas station, and other
things, to pay for the cost of operation. Or are we not allowed to
have gardens, a basillica, or a place where we know our pontiff will
be safe and comfortable? How dare we be comfortable....
Very few people realize this. The Vatican city-state is barely
making ends meet in regards to cost of operation.
How do you know this? I certainly hope it's true but usually comments like
this are about as valid as the rice farmers around here complaining about
the money they lost last year.
They didn't get paid as much for *not* growing rice as they did the year
before.
(First heard in the kitchen of a rice farmer who was spending about as much
to have his kitchen remodeled as a small house cost at the time.)
One last question:
If you were to have a wonderful painting given to you by a friend and
you were low on money, would you sell that gift and thereby reject the
intentions of the gift-giver, or would you keep it and honor it for
the spirit in which it was given?
Given?
I would assume my friend would want me to eat.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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05 May 2005 05:23:19 PM |
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in article d5c5g9$48p$1@news3.bu.edu, RS at wrote on 5/4/05
11:55 PM:
"Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:uY8ee.1092$7U.407@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:br%de.33$Go.30@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
I guess a lawsuit against G-d would be out of the question?
*grin*
I hear tell the Pope is his representative on Earth.
For a guy who gave up all his worldy posessions, he's gotta lotta gold in
that mansion.
Have you ever been in the papal apartment? If not, why do you make such a
claim? Nothing in the papal office belongs to the pope, outside of gifts
given to him by others. Even then, the gifts still belong to the office,
not to the person. Why do you make such claims that you cannot support?
Or is a man who is the governor of a city-state not allowed to have a roof
over his head? Is he not allowed to live in a single apartment of a palace?
Does this reflect in any way on his morality? What of men and women who are
independently wealthy? All of their possessions are their own and they live
in wealth that is their own. Does that make them any less worthy of being
called children of God, if they are?
The Pope is the vicar of Christ. He is a steward, only. He is a servant to
the true king. Nothing that he has is his own. Rather, the material
possessions entrusted to him have been given to him as gifts.... or does a
few pieces of gold mark him unworthy of his position?
Everyone claims that the Vatican has so much money... that we have so many
riches locked up in the vaults of the city-state. This is simply not true.
There are many items that would raise much money in auction, many exensive
buildings, many brilliant works of art, many sacred religious items that
are, in fact, made of gold. These things, however, aren't prized for their
monetary value, but their artistic and spiritual value... would you have a
museum of fine art sell all of its materials? No, because that would be
foolish.
Rather, for the Vatican to operate it has to collect money from benefactors
and make money on its own. That is why the city-state has a grocery store,
a department store, a gas station, and other things, to pay for the cost of
operation. Or are we not allowed to have gardens, a basillica, or a place
where we know our pontiff will be safe and comfortable? How dare we be
comfortable....
Very few people realize this. The Vatican city-state is barely making ends
meet in regards to cost of operation.
One last question:
If you were to have a wonderful painting given to you by a friend and you
were low on money, would you sell that gift and thereby reject the
intentions of the gift-giver, or would you keep it and honor it for the
spirit in which it was given?
I see no reason to dig into MY pocket so my friend could keep his
painting...AND do nasty things which he then hides.
Paul
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