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Heaven Is Wonderful! Fantastic! Beautiful! |
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As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire,
watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
approaching Armageddon, even seeing the winter solstice of
2007 mark the final five year countdown to the end of the
seventh great year, and verily the end of the world: thus
Atheists are getting nervous knowing death and hell, into
the inferno awaits their genocidal souls! In ecstasy I've
been very clearly seeing and remembering why the heavenly
reward for believers is called great. Thus I am glad, and
I am exulting, seeing the heavens being about, right here
and eternally now, ergo to come and in saecula saeculorum.
Heaven is Copious! Pray For Armageddon! Praise LORD Jesus!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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| Title: Re: Heaven Is Wonderful! Fantastic! Beautiful! |
30 Nov 2007 08:14:10 PM |
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"DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net" wrote:
'No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has concieved , the things
which God has in store for those who love him ...' : 1 Cor. 2:8-9.
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Personally, I prefer Jerome's translation:
"sed sicut scriptum est quod oculus non vidit nec
auris audivit nec in cor hominis ascendit quae
praeparavit Deus his qui diligunt illum nobis
autem revelavit Deus per Spiritum suum Spiritus
enim omnia scrutatur etiam profunda Dei quis enim
scit hominum quae sint hominis nisi spiritus
hominis qui in ipso est ita et quae Dei sunt nemo
cognovit nisi Spiritus Dei nos autem non spiritum
mundi accepimus sed Spiritum qui ex Deo est ut
sciamus quae a Deo donata sunt nobis quae et
loquimur non in doctis humanae sapientiae verbis
sed in doctrina Spiritus spiritalibus spiritalia
conparantes animalis autem homo non percipit ea
quae sunt Spiritus Dei stultitia est enim illi et
non potest intellegere quia spiritaliter examinatur"
--I Corinthiorum 2:9-14, editio Vulgata
IOW, worldly men (Atheists, Barbarians, Blockheads) do not
receive the Comforter (Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit), thus they
cannot see the Light of heaven... i.e., not until they die,
and their immortal souls get caught in Dark Limbo, at which
point they'll be *FORCED* to see the Light, afraid, scared,
_terrified_ of Light, in which awaits their future Judgment.
An excerpt from Josephus' "Discourse to the Greeks concerning
Hades" sums it up rather nicely (though a crude translation):
"...the just are guided
to the right hand, and are led with hymns, sung by
the angels appointed over that place, unto a region
of light, in which the just have dwelt from the
beginning of the world; not constrained by necessity,
but ever enjoying the prospect of the good things
they see, and rejoice in the expectation of those new
enjoyments which will be peculiar to every one of
them, and esteeming those things beyond what we have
here; with whom there is no place of toil, no burning
heat, no piercing cold, nor are any briers there; but
the countenance of the and of the just, which they
see, always smiles them, while they wait for that
rest and eternal new life in heaven, which is to
succeed this region. This place we call The Bosom of
Abraham.
"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to
the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment,
no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners
driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels
appointed over them to reproach them and threaten
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them
still downwards. Now those angels that are set over
these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell
itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually
hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the
hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of
this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great
prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful
expectation of a future judgment, and in effect
punished thereby: and not only so, but where they see
the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the just,
even hereby are they punished; for a chaos deep and
large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man
that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted,
nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to
attempt it, pass over it."
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "les_on_usenet" |
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| Title: Re: Heaven Is Wonderful! Fantastic! Beautiful! |
01 Dec 2007 06:36:21 AM |
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 03:14:10 +0100 (CET), George Orwell
<nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
"DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net" wrote:
'No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has concieved , the things
which God has in store for those who love him ...' : 1 Cor. 2:8-9.
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Personally, I prefer Jerome's translation:
"sed sicut scriptum est quod oculus non vidit nec
auris audivit nec in cor hominis ascendit quae
praeparavit Deus his qui diligunt illum nobis
autem revelavit Deus per Spiritum suum Spiritus
enim omnia scrutatur etiam profunda Dei quis enim
scit hominum quae sint hominis nisi spiritus
hominis qui in ipso est ita et quae Dei sunt nemo
cognovit nisi Spiritus Dei nos autem non spiritum
mundi accepimus sed Spiritum qui ex Deo est ut
sciamus quae a Deo donata sunt nobis quae et
loquimur non in doctis humanae sapientiae verbis
sed in doctrina Spiritus spiritalibus spiritalia
conparantes animalis autem homo non percipit ea
quae sunt Spiritus Dei stultitia est enim illi et
non potest intellegere quia spiritaliter examinatur"
--I Corinthiorum 2:9-14, editio Vulgata
IOW, worldly men (Atheists, Barbarians, Blockheads) do not
receive the Comforter (Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit), thus they
cannot see the Light of heaven... i.e., not until they die,
and their immortal souls get caught in Dark Limbo, at which
point they'll be *FORCED* to see the Light, afraid, scared,
_terrified_ of Light, in which awaits their future Judgment.
An excerpt from Josephus' "Discourse to the Greeks concerning
Hades" sums it up rather nicely (though a crude translation):
"...the just are guided
to the right hand, and are led with hymns, sung by
the angels appointed over that place, unto a region
of light, in which the just have dwelt from the
beginning of the world; not constrained by necessity,
but ever enjoying the prospect of the good things
they see, and rejoice in the expectation of those new
enjoyments which will be peculiar to every one of
them, and esteeming those things beyond what we have
here; with whom there is no place of toil, no burning
heat, no piercing cold, nor are any briers there; but
the countenance of the and of the just, which they
see, always smiles them, while they wait for that
rest and eternal new life in heaven, which is to
succeed this region. This place we call The Bosom of
Abraham.
"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to
the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment,
no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners
driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels
appointed over them to reproach them and threaten
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them
still downwards. Now those angels that are set over
these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell
itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually
hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the
hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of
this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great
prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful
expectation of a future judgment, and in effect
punished thereby: and not only so, but where they see
the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the just,
even hereby are they punished; for a chaos deep and
large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man
that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted,
nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to
attempt it, pass over it."
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
Than you for your quotes. It is clear evidence that they were
struggling to get people to believe their nonesense even then. It
shows that the peoples of those days were not as ignorant and
superstitious as the religious writers of the day seen to indicate.
Their colourful and dramatic portends of death shows the
extend to which they had to spin up their beliefs to frighten
people into compliance. It reminds me of the frenetic
over-the-top promos Sky put out in order to pesuade people to
subscribe to their badly overpriced sports channel.
This kind of religious marketing does not fool people these
days anymore than it did then especially when you 'cry wolf'
far too often. The Christian religion reached its zenith
as a result of their exploitation of the Black Death for
their own ends and has been in decline ever since. Nowadays
people throw you claim that a god created the earth back
on your facr by reminding you that if it is true then the latest
disaster must be of its making as it either designed a
faulty earth by incompetence or deliberate design. If
you wish to believe a god created an earth that produces
Tsunamis and other disaster intentionally then you have a
problem reconceiling your riduclous beliefs.
How conveniently you forget all your failed predictions
proclaiming each one with absolute certainty only to
make excuse afterward. Do you have your excuse for
you imment demise all ready to trot out when it fails
to happen as usual. LOL
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "eeo eeolsonpeople in Hawaii actually like spamhawaii.rr.com" |
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01 Dec 2007 10:01:27 PM |
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"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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<snip>
To paraphrase "When Harry Met Sally," I'll have what he's having. LOL
eeo
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| User: "les_on_usenet" |
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| Title: Re: Heaven Is Wonderful! Fantastic! Beautiful! |
30 Nov 2007 05:06:13 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:13:15 +0100 (CET), George Orwell
<nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire,
watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
approaching Armageddon, even seeing the winter solstice of
2007 mark the final five year countdown to the end of the
seventh great year, and verily the end of the world: thus
Atheists are getting nervous knowing death and hell, into
the inferno awaits their genocidal souls!
This atheist was not even aware of your latest prediction.
They are as common as muck and we pay them no heed
So, Christianity is finally coming to an end is it and facing
its Armaggedon. I wish it were true. Do you keep saying
this as a cruel joke or something? You get our hopes up
predicting your imminent demise only to be still there
the next day.
Sorry you can no longer trick us with that one. We will
believe you have gone when it happens.
but just in case "Byee"
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Heaven Is Wonderful! Fantastic! Beautiful! |
01 Dec 2007 12:30:10 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, les_on_usenet <delete-
unread@leswell.freeuk.com> bloodied us up with this:
So, Christianity is finally coming to an end is it and facing
its Armaggedon. I wish it were true.
I can see it now. A hundred thousand worshipers are gathered in the
desert. They've fasted, deprived themselves of water... They are all on
their knees, praying diligently when LO! A cloud descends from the heavens
and out drops Jesus Christ himself! He stumbles up to the crowd, carrying
a bottle of clear liquid, and playing a very drunken version of When Johnny
Comes Marching Home on an old flute. A man in the front of the crowd cries
out, "Jesus, Sweet Jesus, have you returned to baptise us and give us
eternal life?"
"Who said anything about eternal life?" slurred Jesus. "I said ether, and
a fife."
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Syd M." |
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01 Dec 2007 12:11:56 PM |
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On Dec 1, 1:30 am, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, les_on_usenet <delete-
unr...@leswell.freeuk.com> bloodied us up with this:
So, Christianity is finally coming to an end is it and facing
its Armaggedon. I wish it were true.
I can see it now. A hundred thousand worshipers are gathered in the
desert. They've fasted, deprived themselves of water... They are all on
their knees, praying diligently when LO! A cloud descends from the heavens
and out drops Jesus Christ himself! He stumbles up to the crowd, carrying
a bottle of clear liquid, and playing a very drunken version of When Johnny
Comes Marching Home on an old flute. A man in the front of the crowd cries
out, "Jesus, Sweet Jesus, have you returned to baptise us and give us
eternal life?"
"Who said anything about eternal life?" slurred Jesus. "I said ether, and
a fife."
LOL!!
Good one!!
PDW
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| User: "George Orwell" |
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30 Nov 2007 11:14:56 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, wrote:
On 30 nov, 23:30, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire,
watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
approaching Armageddon, even seeing the winter solstice of
2007 mark the final five year countdown to the end of the
seventh great year, and verily the end of the world: thus
Atheists are getting nervous knowing death and hell, into
the inferno awaits their genocidal souls! In ecstasy I've
been very clearly seeing and remembering why the heavenly
reward for believers is called great. Thus I am glad, and
I am exulting, seeing the heavens being about, right here
and eternally now, ergo to come and in saecula saeculorum.
Daniel,
What is your opinion about NUKE strike of Iran before Bush 's end of
term ?
I see it clearly myself !
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Sir JP,
Whatever you can see clairvoyantly, more power to you.
I'm a great believer in clairvoyance, or clear-seeing.
I believe everyone can do it, but not everyone does...
I really don't see much in this regard, except perhaps
one or two, you know, as per the primary and secondary
targets. Foremost of all is the primary target: she is
apocalyptic toast. Whether the secondary target is hit,
that seems oblique, or obliquely, you know, the dollar.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "Steven J." |
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30 Nov 2007 05:31:46 PM |
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On Nov 30, 3:13 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire,
watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
approaching Armageddon, even seeing the winter solstice of
2007 mark the final five year countdown to the end of the
seventh great year, and verily the end of the world: thus
Atheists are getting nervous knowing death and hell, into
the inferno awaits their genocidal souls! In ecstasy I've
been very clearly seeing and remembering why the heavenly
reward for believers is called great. Thus I am glad, and
I am exulting, seeing the heavens being about, right here
and eternally now, ergo to come and in saecula saeculorum.
Heaven is Copious! Pray For Armageddon! Praise LORD Jesus!
Daniel Joseph Minhttp://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
I think you need to change drug dealers NOW; that last batch of acid
seems to have been rancid.
-- [snip]
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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30 Nov 2007 07:40:12 PM |
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On Nov 30, 4:13 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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'Cause God makes women put out even for pigs like me!
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03 Dec 2007 04:00:26 PM |
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On Nov 30, 4:13 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
If heaven is wonderful, fantastic and beautiful, why are you still
here? If it's truly that great, go there.
We know you won't because you have no faith that heavenis truly as
you say it is. If you did, you would not be posting here. You'd have
already been there for years.
Lead by example. Go there. Be first.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
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| User: "George Orwell" |
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01 Dec 2007 06:01:51 PM |
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, "Og" <Og@bashan.net> wrote:
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire,
watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
approaching Armageddon, even seeing the winter solstice of
2007 mark the final five year countdown to the end of the
seventh great year,
The seventh great year? I came accross the term 'great year' when
I was reading Josephus. I still don't know what it is supposed to be.
Please explain what is meant by great year.
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I remember seeing a very similar question posed in another group,
several years ago in regard to Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews,
where Noah's relatively-incredible mortal human age is discussed:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0146&query=whiston+chapter%3D%234&layout=&loc=1.52
Since Noah was six hundred years old (Genesis 7:6) upon entering
the ark, thus I believe Josephus' reference to a "great year" is
in reference to the grand century of Jupiter (427 tropical years),
since one's ultimate GOAL is ever to be more of the giving nature,
more Jovian, more generous, more gracious, more gratitude-giving,
more interested in the well-being of other self, than in the self,
since Zeus (Theos, Deus, Jehovah, Jupiter, Emperor) is the God of
Giving, whereas Saturn (Kronos, Father Time, The Scythe, Judgment)
is the God of Taking, hence "the LORD giveth, and the LORD taketh
away" [Job 1:21], hence the war of ten sidereal years between the
eternally-youthful Olympians "versus" the eternally-elder Titans,
the eternal, heavenly battle between space and time, if you will,
the battle of evermore (wasn't that a tune from Led Zepellin IV?).
The term "great year" or "grand century" refers to each of the ten
planets. E.g., the grand century of the Moon is 800 tropical years,
the interval between the start of eclipsed moons occulting Regulus.
The grand century of the Sun is 410 years, i.e. the very long-term
global average for solar totality. Thus I'll quote M. Nostradamus:
"...Toutesfois contans, les
...Nevertheless counting, the
ans depuis la creation du monde, iusques a la
years since the creation of the world, up until to the
naissance de Noe, sont passez milcinq cens & six
birth of Noah, have passed thousandfive hundred & six
ans, & depuis la naissance de Noe iusques a la parfaicte
years, & since the birth of Noah until to the perfect
frabrication de l'arche, approchant de l'vniuerselle
fabrication of the ark, approaching to the universal
mondation, passerent six cens ans (si les dos estoyet
mondation, have passed six hundred years (if the back they are
Solitaires ou Lunaires, ou des dix mixtions) ie tiens
Solars-only or Lunars, or to the ten compoundings) I hold
ce que les sacrees escriptures tiennent qui estoyent
that which the sacred scriptures holds that they are
Solaires. Et a la fin d'iceux six ans Noe entra
Solars. And at the end of these six years Noah entered
dans l'arche pour estre sauue du deluge: & fut iceluy
into the ark for to be saved from the deluge: & was this
deluge, vniuersel sur terre, & dura vn an & deux mois."
deluge, universal on earth, & lasted one year & two months.
In the above excerpt, Nostradamus' reference to "Solars" means
the SIDEREAL orbits of the planets, predictably compounding in
reference to each planet's synodic aspects from their positions
to Earth, as was commonly measured in lunisolar, tropical years.
The "Lunars" means each planet's synodic phases, aspects, etc.,
you know, as in Venus-superior is the Evening Star, and Venus-
inferior is the Morning Star, measured from conjoin to conjoin,
as shown in the following chart, which proves that the heavens
were numbered by their *sidereal* orbits, not synodic periods,
thereby also proving that ancient astronomers knew a whole lot
more about astronomy than the "modern-day" Atheists ever will,
and that their much-lauded "Copernican Revolution" is a sham:
S# Pla Synod Sider./TropY
*10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
*9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
*8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
^^^^^^
Thus to truly understand the Genesis account, it helps to know
that the Hebrew-Egyptian Priest Moses was _far_ better-educated
than modern Christians, Atheists, Gentiles, give him credit for
(they don't even know what the "perfect mood" means, go figure?).
So when they wonder how the great flood occurred circa 28,000 BC,
the answer is: The same way they wonder how the heavens and the
earth were created in six "days"! IOW, the fundies haven't got a
clue. Not all Christians are like that, you know "fundamentalist-
literalist"-types, but most are, including their Atheist cousins.
At any rate, the seventh great or "platonic" year of Earth is
the slow, steady, and very predictable gyration of the Earth's
rotational axis against Earth's caelestial firmament. Nowadays
this is more commonly referred to as "equinoctial precession".
And because the Mayan long-count predicted the winter solstice
of Friday December 21st, 2012 conjunct the Mayan "Sacred Tree",
they predicted this LONG-EXPECTED event with such astonishing
and unrivaled accuracy, even to date, the Mayan long-count is
therefore deemed the most reliable measure of Earth's great
year against Earth's caelestial firmament (Ouranos, Uranus,
the eighth sidereal heaven). The following is redacted from
an article I wrote in 2001 about the precessional long-count:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ade1ff09c6cd6fee77fcbe3aa2964fb8@mixmaster.nullify.org
The average number of tropical years per great year equals
about 25626.8304 by the ancient Mayan reckoning. Using the
rounded-off figure of 25626.83=>therefore, about 9,360,000
(nine million three hundred sixty thousand) solar days per
great year of precession yields about 26000 solar days per
1/360th of a great year equals one arcdegree of precession
every 26000 solar days equals about 71.1856 tropical years,
revealing clear solar day to precessional degree resonance
on the very long-term average, which the Mayans apparently
understood at least as well if not better than anyone. The
very ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, likely knew this, too,
considering their superior knowledge of planetary sidereal-
synodic-tropical multiples, to wit according to Babylonian
astronomers circa 2000 BC (and doubtless long before that):
MAGICIAN/Mercury:
85 mean-synodic periods =~ 27 tropical years;
191 sidereal ~ 145 mean-synodic ~ 46 tropical
EMPRESS/Venus:
157 mean-synodic periods =~ 251 tropical years;
1871 sidereal ~ 720 mean-synodic ~ 1151 tropical
TOWER/Mars:
22 mean-synodic periods =~ 47 tropical years
151 sidereal ~ 133 mean-synodic ~ 284 tropical
EMPEROR/Jupiter:
76 mean-synodic periods =~ 83 tropical years
36 sidereal ~ 391 mean-synodic ~ 427 tropical
JUDGMENT/Saturn:
57 mean-synodic periods =~ 59 tropical years
9 sidereal ~ 256 mean-synodic ~ 265 tropical
Saturn's rings edge-on =~ avg. 14.75 years
Continuing with the Mayan astronomical long-count reckoning...
Likewise one solar day of precession averages -0.13846 arc-
seconds of ecliptic longitude, thus each solar hour equals
about -0.005769 ecliptic arcseconds of longitude the Earth
precesses against the fixed caelestial sphere. By reducing
this down to one minute--sixty seconds--of solar time, the
Earth precesses on average about -0.000096 arcseconds each
minute thus about -0.0000016 arcseconds per second of time.
Likewise 9360000 solar days divided by five equals 1872000
solar days per Mayan Age of the Sun, with the first of the
five ages which begins each great year, beginning with the
winter solstice Sun conjoined 5 degrees Sagittarius, which
is the caelestial Sacred Tree near the galactic center, or
the apparent intercept of the ecliptic and galactic planes
which is located very nearly 3 ecliptic arcdegrees east of
the galactic center itself /sgrab at 2 degrees Sagittarius.
Again, the following charts summarize the seven great years,
the sabbath of the ages i.e. the sabbatical Age of the Ages,
the whole of which ENDS barely 5 years away at this writing!
THE ADAMIC FALL FROM PARADISE
(circa ~200,000 BC)
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1ST BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Fri 22 Apr 177,376 BC Gregorian \
14 Dec 177,373 BC Julian ONE
Julian Day -63063717; 0.0.0.0.0.0.0 /
-442.0.0.0.0; 18 Pax; 4 Ahau /
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2ND BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Thu 12 Feb 151,749 BC Gregorian \
28 Mar 151,746 BC Julian TWO
Julian Day -53703717; 0.3.5.0.0.0.0 /
-377.0.0.0.0; 18 Mac; 4 Ahau /
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3RD BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Wed 4 Dec 126,123 BC Gregorian \
9 Jul 126,120 BC Julian THREE
Julian Day -44343717; 0.6.10.0.0.0.0 /
-312.0.0.0.0; 18 Yax; 4 Ahau /
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4TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Tue 26 Sep 100,496 BC Gregorian \
21 Oct 100,494 BC Julian FOUR
Julian Day -34983717; 0.9.15.0.0.0.0 /
-247.0.0.0.0; 18 Yaxkin; 4 Ahau /
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5TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Mon 18 Jul 74,869 BC Gregorian \
1 Feb 74,867 BC Julian FIVE
Julian Day -25623717; 0.13.0.0.0.0.0 /
-182.0.0.0.0; 18 Zotz; 4 Ahau /
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6TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Sun 10 May 49,242 BC Gregorian \
15 May 49,241 BC Julian SIX
Julian Day -16263717; 0.16.5.0.0.0.0 /
-117.0.0.0.0 ;18 Pop; 4 Ahau /
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7TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE \
Sat 1 Mar 23,615 BC Gregorian \
27 Aug 23,615 BC Julian SEVEN
Julian Day -6903717; 0.19.10.0.0.0.0 /
-52.0.0.0.0; 3 Kayab; 4 Ahau /
--------------------------------------* <== END OF THE WORLD
8TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Fri 21 Dec 2012 AD Gregorian
8 Dec 2012 AD Julian
Julian Day 2456283; 1.2.15.0.0.0.0
13.0.0.0.0; 3 Kankin; 4 Ahau
WINTER SOLSTICE
(11:11:23 UT Fri 21-Dec-2012)
Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity
Jupiter : 13Tau55'15" - 0:44'34" -0.1184174
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau
MeanLilith: 16Tau08'19" - 1:30'18" +0.1108440
Saturn : 13Lib40'52" + 2:18'29" +0.0899011
True Node : 0Sco37'43" + 0:00'00" +0.0230194
Venus : 11Sco36'24" + 1:06'30" +1.2496808
Mercury : 19Sco43'08" + 0:24'24" +1.4795023
Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA*
Gal.BaryCe: 2Sag03'~~ - 5:36'~~ /sgrab <==ref. local standard of rest
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/SacredTree: 5Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________
\Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180
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Gal-Ecl : 5Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________
Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58" HerA*
Pluto : 13Sag58'10" + 3:20'43" +0.0351116
Mars : 1Cap26'53" - 1:09'51" +0.7809645
Neptune : 5Aqu50'01" - 0:36'39" +0.0220093
Uranus : 9Pis39'40" - 0:42'46" +0.0068411
Moon : 19Pis15'46" + 3:27'34" +12.267681
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Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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On 2 Dec, 00:01, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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As we mere mortals watch the meltdown of the fourth empire, watching their 2008 so-called "election" going up in smoke
I read a comment by the Pope (yes I do sometimes notice what the other
side has to say) to the effect that many people are put off by the
idea of eternal life after death and maybe the prospect isn't quite so
appealing after all.
Reading the above posting and those from the "persecuted-one" makes me
realise that for once, the Pope has made a good point. Would you want
to spend eternity with nutters like those?
Jack
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01 Dec 2007 06:13:21 PM |
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On Dec 1, 4:01 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote: <snipped
by DumpBS.exe>
Do you EVER have anything original to post?...
Perhaps you have already reached the upper limits of your intellect
and now can only CCP other delusional crap?
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05 Dec 2007 12:55:34 PM |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, chazwin <chazwyman@yahoo.com> protested in vain:
I'd rather live in hell than have to put up with your insane *****!
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"Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n"--Paradise Lost, eh?
atheism: Gk. atheos, lit. without Zeus, without God
You Atheists might want to get your noses back into the Prophecies,
seeing you are fast running out of time (by the sacred revolutions),
so you can be _reminded_ of what exceedingly horrendous fates await
each and every one of you, each exactly according to your works of
good and works of evil: into the lake of Fire! The hour approaches...
"...par les Occidentaux. Et a ce regne sera faicte
by the Occidentals. And to this reign will be made
grande desolation, & les plus grandes citez seront
greatest desolation, & the more great cities will be
de peuplees, & ceux qui entreront dedans seront
depopulated, & those which will enter inside will be
comprins a la vengeance de l'ire de Dieu."
comprehending to the vengeance of the ire of Zeus.
Armageddon Cometh (it won't be cinematic),
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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05 Dec 2007 04:06:18 PM |
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"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, chazwin <chazwyman@yahoo.com> protested in vain:
I'd rather live in hell than have to put up with your insane *****!
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"Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n"--Paradise Lost, eh?
atheism: Gk. atheos, lit. without Zeus, without God
You Atheists might want to get your noses back into the Prophecies,
seeing you are fast running out of time (by the sacred revolutions),
so you can be _reminded_ of what exceedingly horrendous fates await
each and every one of you, each exactly according to your works of
good and works of evil: into the lake of Fire! The hour approaches...
"...par les Occidentaux. Et a ce regne sera faicte
by the Occidentals. And to this reign will be made
grande desolation, & les plus grandes citez seront
greatest desolation, & the more great cities will be
de peuplees, & ceux qui entreront dedans seront
depopulated, & those which will enter inside will be
comprins a la vengeance de l'ire de Dieu."
comprehending to the vengeance of the ire of Zeus.
Armageddon Cometh (it won't be cinematic),
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
I wonder why Minnie Mouse posts under the name
George Orwell. Orwell would have despised him as
a religious lunatic.
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05 Dec 2007 05:16:59 PM |
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On Dec 5, 5:06 pm, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"George Orwell" <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
news:c8587190b6ffdea3a689ddbe4d9680e0@mixmaster.it...
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> protested in vain:
I'd rather live in hell than have to put up with your insane *****!
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"Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n"--Paradise Lost, eh?
atheism: Gk. atheos, lit. without Zeus, without God
You Atheists might want to get your noses back into the Prophecies,
seeing you are fast running out of time (by the sacred revolutions),
so you can be _reminded_ of what exceedingly horrendous fates await
each and every one of you, each exactly according to your works of
good and works of evil: into the lake of Fire! The hour approaches...
"...par les Occidentaux. Et a ce regne sera faicte
by the Occidentals. And to this reign will be made
grande desolation, & les plus grandes citez seront
greatest desolation, & the more great cities will be
de peuplees, & ceux qui entreront dedans seront
depopulated, & those which will enter inside will be
comprins a la vengeance de l'ire de Dieu."
comprehending to the vengeance of the ire of Zeus.
Armageddon Cometh (it won't be cinematic),
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
I wonder why Minnie Mouse posts under the name
George Orwell. Orwell would have despised him as
a religious lunatic.
One of the things I've always found facinating about "prophets" is
their astounding egos. The man really thinks he's as prophetic as
Orwell.
I wonder whether Orwell wanted to be prophetic, or was trying to scare
people into taking action..
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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05 Dec 2007 07:15:48 PM |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:16:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:06 pm, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"George Orwell" <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
news:c8587190b6ffdea3a689ddbe4d9680e0@mixmaster.it...
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> protested in vain:
I'd rather live in hell than have to put up with your insane *****!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
"Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n"--Paradise Lost, eh?
atheism: Gk. atheos, lit. without Zeus, without God
You Atheists might want to get your noses back into the Prophecies,
seeing you are fast running out of time (by the sacred revolutions),
so you can be _reminded_ of what exceedingly horrendous fates await
each and every one of you, each exactly according to your works of
good and works of evil: into the lake of Fire! The hour approaches...
"...par les Occidentaux. Et a ce regne sera faicte
by the Occidentals. And to this reign will be made
grande desolation, & les plus grandes citez seront
greatest desolation, & the more great cities will be
de peuplees, & ceux qui entreront dedans seront
depopulated, & those which will enter inside will be
comprins a la vengeance de l'ire de Dieu."
comprehending to the vengeance of the ire of Zeus.
Armageddon Cometh (it won't be cinematic),
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
I wonder why Minnie Mouse posts under the name
George Orwell. Orwell would have despised him as
a religious lunatic.
One of the things I've always found facinating about "prophets" is
their astounding egos. The man really thinks he's as prophetic as
Orwell.
Amazing, isn't it? Min has never been right even once, yet he still
expects to be taken seriously.
I wonder whether Orwell wanted to be prophetic, or was trying to scare
people into taking action..
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Davej" |
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05 Dec 2007 04:30:53 PM |
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On Dec 5, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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You Atheists might want to get your noses back into the Prophecies,
seeing you are fast running out of time (by the sacred revolutions)
[...]
Go stuff yourself. Zeus is going to fry your worthless *****.
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