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"Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids?
Tale of Taxing Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead, they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
Natalie Hair, 15, attends First Baptist Church of Orlando, a
10,000-member evangelical church. She says she feels a duty to
"witness" by telling public-school classmates the Bible forbids
homosexuality, abortion and premarital sex. She's glad her church
teaches creationism. "That helps me defend my belief that evolution is
false," she says. She's a fan of George W. Bush, who won a mock
election among young parishioners at First Baptist, with 95% of the
votes....
"The entire cultural battle is over the children," says Mathew Staver,
who heads the Orlando-based Liberty Counsel, a conservative
legal-defense group that has been at the forefront of fights over gay
marriage, school prayer, and abortion.
Mr. Staver, a lawyer, is also vice chairman of the Moral Majority
Coalition, a group headed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell. That group says it
is mounting "an evangelical revolution" built on the momentum of Mr.
Bush's victory. Its goals include lobbying for "pro-life, strict
constructionist" Supreme Court justices and federal judges, and working
for a Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
Mr. Falwell says the coalition hopes to register 10 million new young
voters by 2008 "to make sure Hillary Clinton remains a senator" -- and
never becomes president. He sends e-mails to hundreds of thousands of
students every week, he says, using addresses collected by church youth
groups and 22 recruiters the coalition has on the road. "I'm the Pied
Piper," he says....
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids. While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches, "there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids," says
the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for
Separation of Church and State, a Washington, D.C.-based group.
Mr. Lynn predicts many children who now endorse their elders'
conservative values will reject them when they grow up. "At age 10, you
don't know [peers] who've become pregnant, or are gay," he says. "You
haven't learned the nuances on complex issues."
Open Minds
The Liberty Counsel's Mr. Staver argues that even if children's
thinking is more simplistic, their minds are more open. He calls ages 5
to 12 the key years for guiding children in "the right direction." He
says his group discovered the line "whoever captures the kids owns the
future" in a gay-rights essay in the magazine "The Advocate." Now, he
says, conservative activists are determined to prove that true -- on
their terms.
There's even a niche market in politically abrasive children's
literature. One new book is titled "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under
My Bed!" It tells the fictional tale of two boys who try to run a
lemonade stand, while liberals keep showing up, taking half their money
in taxes, and forcing them to remove the photo of Jesus that hangs on
the stand.
The book is written under a pen name because the author says she fears
for her children's safety. In Fort Mill, S.C., 10-year-old Abbey
Kirrane received the book from her mom. "If you listen to liberals,"
she says, "they take away your dreams and hopes for the future." Abbey
believes the book accurately describes liberals. "They can be pushy.
They tell you what to do."
The book, which is sold in some bookstores and online, is the first in
a series by World Ahead Publishing, of Gardena, Calif. Up next: "Help!
Mom! Hollywood is in my Hamper!"....
The Republican National Committee reaches out through groups such as
"Teen Age Republicans." This week, the RNC is asking supporters to join
its "Parties for the President" program by inviting neighbors and their
kids into their homes to watch the inauguration. "There will be
hundreds of parties with thousands of people," says a spokesman.
Metropolitan Orlando, with a population of 1.8 million, is fertile
territory for politically charged cultural arguments because it has
become a center of evangelical life. The area is headquarters for
Wycliffe Bible Translators, a nonprofit group which translates the
Bible into foreign languages, Campus Crusade for Christ, and a host of
other ministries....
Connie Price, who belongs to First Baptist, says she feels "threatened
by the liberal perspective that wants me to accept homosexuality." She
tells her four children "to love our enemy" and be respectful, "but if
you know you're right, based on biblical principles, stand firm."....
As they become politically active, young people come face to face with
America's divide. Dominique Roberts, 18, says she can't forget a woman
she met while going door-to-door on behalf of the Kerry campaign. The
woman explained that she was glad Mr. Bush had gone to war because if
he hadn't, "the terrorists could come to Orlando, pull you into the
street, and chop your head off," Ms. Roberts recalls.
Sara Trollinger is among those in Orlando working to help young people
embody conservative values. She is the founder of House of Hope, a
residential facility that counsels teens in crisis using biblical
principles.
Her political ties were forged through a miracle of sorts. On May 28,
1985, an article was written about her program in the Orlando Sentinel.
That day, President Ronald Reagan happened to be in town giving a
speech. Ms. Trollinger says she prayed he would see the article. He got
on Air Force One after the speech, read the story, and wrote the
facility a personal check for $1,000.
Today, a photocopy of Mr. Reagan's check hangs in the facility's
entryway. A large painting of Jesus is surrounded by photos of Ms.
Trollinger with Mr. Reagan, George W. Bush, and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
When conservative leaders speak of faith-based initiatives, they often
laud House of Hope, which has seven affiliates.
Most of the 37 teens living in the Orlando facility have awful
histories: violence, abuse, addictions. Almost all of them say they
support Mr. Bush. They've discussed that he was a drinker who found
God, and they see themselves in that story. "God can change your
character if you let him," said Gus, 16. Ms. Trollinger describes Bill
Clinton as "a terrible role model for our young people." She had
residents pray for him when he was president.
The teens are also schooled in the nuts and bolts of politics,
including taking road trips to the state capital in Tallahassee to see
how bills are passed.
"This is the generation that will change the morality of America," Ms.
Trollinger says. "The scripture says 'a little child will lead them.' "
'Good News Club'
At Orlando's Englewood Elementary School, about 50 children meet once a
week after school for a "Good News Club," sponsored by the Warrenton,
Mo.-based Child Evangelism Fellowship. Good News Clubs have
proliferated since a 2001 Supreme Court ruling, citing the right of
free speech, allowed a club in New York to meet, after hours, in a
public school. There are about 5,000 Good News Clubs nationwide, 1,500
of which meet at public schools.
Myron Tschetter, who oversees Good News Clubs nationally, says the
clubs don't have a political affiliation. But if kids ask questions on
issues such as abortion and homosexuality, they're given answers from
the Bible, he says. "We teach the children: 'This is what's right. This
is what God says.' " The goal is that when they grow up and need to
make choices on these issues, "the scriptures will guide them."
Mr. Lynn, of American United for Separation of Church and State,
contends the clubs have "an agenda that combines political and
religious doctrine," and says they could create "future voters and
leaders" who will work for laws opposing abortion and same-gender
marriages, and allowing placement of religious symbols on public
property.
On a recent day, at the Good News Club that meets at Englewood
Elementary, children pledged allegiance to the U.S. flag and then to
the Bible.
Abner, a 10-year-old, said he enjoys the club. "I like having it in
school, that's for sure. It saves the ride to church." He's trying to
convince a friend to come to the club, too. "I keep hearing that kids
are the future of the earth," he said.
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17 Jan 2005 10:22:43 PM |
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From: "MrPepper11"
Date: 1/17/05 1:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
Prayer As You Go To Work:
Lord and Creator of the universe, and all it contains, help me today in my
daily tasks. May they be a worthy part of your eternal plan for the salvation
of mankind. By my work I support myself and those dear to me with something
left over to help the poor. My work benefits the community and my neighbors
far and near. So in your goodness, Lord, assist me to do it better for your
sake. May Christ, our Lord, in whose name we ask, be with us while we work.
Amen.
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Pray, hope, and don't worry.
Worry is useless.
God is merciful and will hear your prayer.
-- Padre Pio, Pietrelcina.
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17 Jan 2005 11:47:51 PM |
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"Vivapadrepio" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050117172243.11015.00000087@mb-m18.aol.com...
From: "MrPepper11"
Date: 1/17/05 1:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
Prayer As You Go To Work:
Lord and Creator of the universe, and all it contains, help me today in my
daily tasks. May they be a worthy part of your eternal plan for the
salvation
of mankind. By my work I support myself and those dear to me with
something
left over to help the poor. My work benefits the community and my
neighbors
far and near. So in your goodness, Lord, assist me to do it better for
your
sake. May Christ, our Lord, in whose name we ask, be with us while we
work.
Amen.
Wow, that's a lot of commands. Does it work? Does the god roll over when you
tell it to?
It sure is a good thing that your wishes coincide so perfectly with the
eternal plan, eh?
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Pray, hope, and don't worry.
Worry is useless.
God is merciful and will hear your prayer.
Or he's FIRED! Right?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2005 01:51:01 AM |
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In our last episode <20050117172243.11015.00000087@mb-m18.aol.com>,
Vivapadrepio lept out of the bushes shouting:
Report to:
Or: abuse@aol.com
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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18 Jan 2005 01:38:55 AM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 22:22:43 GMT, (Vivapadrepio) said
in alt.atheism:
Prayer As You Go To Work:
Prayer as you see that Vivapadrepio has spewed more religious *****
into alt.atheism:
God, if you exist, crash Vivapadrepio's computer, or cause aol to
delete his account for his continuous aup violation.
--
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2005 01:58:18 AM |
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In our last episode <31qou0pj0c8us2jo1556c6f2atm2o9r439@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On 17 Jan 2005 22:22:43 GMT, (Vivapadrepio) said in
alt.atheism:
Prayer As You Go To Work:
Prayer as you see that Vivapadrepio has spewed more religious ***** into
alt.atheism:
God, if you exist, crash Vivapadrepio's computer, or cause aol to delete
his account for his continuous aup violation.
God emailed me last night and said he's reported him too...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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18 Jan 2005 01:22:46 AM |
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Vivapadrepio wrote:
From: "MrPepper11"
Date: 1/17/05 1:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
Prayer As You Go To Work:
Lord and Creator of the universe, and all it contains, help me today in my
daily tasks. May they be a worthy part of your eternal plan for the salvation
of mankind. By my work I support myself and those dear to me with something
left over to help the poor. My work benefits the community and my neighbors
far and near. So in your goodness, Lord, assist me to do it better for your
sake. May Christ, our Lord, in whose name we ask, be with us while we work.
Amen.
"SIT god SIT! GOOD god!"
Are you really this stupid, or have you taken classes for it?
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "" |
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18 Jan 2005 04:56:38 AM |
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What insipid pablum.
Pathetic.
May you find your mind and your courage some day.
Sheesh.
Kermit
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Jan 2005 10:20:43 PM |
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In our last episode
<1105995747.854598.233730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, MrPepper11 lept
out of the bushes shouting:
The book is written under a pen name because the author says she fears for
her children's safety. In Fort Mill, S.C., 10-year-old Abbey Kirrane
received the book from her mom. "If you listen to liberals," she says,
"they take away your dreams and hopes for the future." Abbey believes the
book accurately describes liberals. "They can be pushy. They tell you what
to do."
The book, which is sold in some bookstores and online, is the first in a
series by World Ahead Publishing, of Gardena, Calif. Up next: "Help! Mom!
Hollywood is in my Hamper!"....
Okay, we now have evidence the right is utterly losing its mind...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2005 05:14:35 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:20:43 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105995747.854598.233730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, MrPepper11 lept
out of the bushes shouting:
The book is written under a pen name because the author says she fears for
her children's safety. In Fort Mill, S.C., 10-year-old Abbey Kirrane
received the book from her mom. "If you listen to liberals," she says,
"they take away your dreams and hopes for the future." Abbey believes the
book accurately describes liberals. "They can be pushy. They tell you what
to do."
The book, which is sold in some bookstores and online, is the first in a
series by World Ahead Publishing, of Gardena, Calif. Up next: "Help! Mom!
Hollywood is in my Hamper!"....
Okay, we now have evidence the right is utterly losing its mind...
The Superstitious Reich never had a mind to begin with.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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25 Jan 2005 06:44:21 AM |
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MrPepper11 wrote:
<snip>
Mr. Falwell says the coalition hopes to register 10 million new young
voters by 2008 "to make sure Hillary Clinton remains a senator" --
and never becomes president. He sends e-mails to hundreds of
thousands of students every week, he says, using addresses collected
by church youth groups and 22 recruiters the coalition has on the
road. "I'm the Pied Piper," he says....
Yes, and we all know what happened to those who followed the Pied
Piper, don't we?
<snip>
--
Lurlean Lie #24:
"he goes to orgy's all over the country"
news:1dcee589.0408290928.1985ece@posting.google.com
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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25 Jan 2005 04:30:26 PM |
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:1106635461.303566.147510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
MrPepper11 wrote:
<snip>
Mr. Falwell says the coalition hopes to register 10 million new young
voters by 2008 "to make sure Hillary Clinton remains a senator" --
and never becomes president. He sends e-mails to hundreds of
thousands of students every week, he says, using addresses collected
by church youth groups and 22 recruiters the coalition has on the
road. "I'm the Pied Piper," he says....
Yes, and we all know what happened to those who followed the Pied
Piper, don't we?
Why do you LIEberals follow your leaders at the DNC without question?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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25 Jan 2005 08:01:37 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:30:26 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <95@95.com> wrote:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:1106635461.303566.147510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
MrPepper11 wrote:
<snip>
Mr. Falwell says the coalition hopes to register 10 million new young
voters by 2008 "to make sure Hillary Clinton remains a senator" --
and never becomes president. He sends e-mails to hundreds of
thousands of students every week, he says, using addresses collected
by church youth groups and 22 recruiters the coalition has on the
road. "I'm the Pied Piper," he says....
Yes, and we all know what happened to those who followed the Pied
Piper, don't we?
Why do you LIEberals follow your leaders at the DNC without question?
Yet another neo-con maintaining their usual high standards of debate,
I see. <G>
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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25 Jan 2005 09:14:43 PM |
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Fascist "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:cj9dv0te3s34f9msp86mh27hq9odhfgofp@4ax.com...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:30:26 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <95@95.com> wrote:
fascist "Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:1106635461.303566.147510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
MrPepper11 wrote:
<snip>
Mr. Falwell says the coalition hopes to register 10 million new young
voters by 2008 "to make sure Hillary Clinton remains a senator" --
and never becomes president. He sends e-mails to hundreds of
thousands of students every week, he says, using addresses collected
by church youth groups and 22 recruiters the coalition has on the
road. "I'm the Pied Piper," he says....
Yes, and we all know what happened to those who followed the Pied
Piper, don't we?
Why do you LIEberals follow your leaders at the DNC without question?
Yet another Conservative who kicks my *****!
No problem!
Cheers!
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| User: "Steven L." |
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18 Jan 2005 03:04:50 AM |
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MrPepper11 wrote:
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids?
Tale of Taxing Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead, they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
. . . .
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids.
Oh, please. Hollywood liberals have crammed most movies and most
entertainment television with liberal messages, so kids are brainwashed
into liberalism every time they watch prime-time TV. It's not enough to
have a liberal President as hero and conservatives as villain on The
West Wing? It's not enough to make a movie about terrorism in which the
villains are changed from Tom Clancy's original depiction as Islamists
into neo-Nazis? It's not enough to have Hollywood celebrities depict
promiscuity and drug abuse as cool?
While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches, "there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids,"
Sure there are. They're called: PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The teachers that
belong to the NEA are mostly doctrinaire liberal and that's the message
that gets across to the kids. In the days after 9-11, high schools here
in Massachusetts invited Howard Zinn, a self-described Marxist
professor, to "explain" to the kids why 9-11 was really America's fault.
No school here in Massachusetts dared to broach the subject of Islamic
fundamentalist hatred of Western values.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Jan 2005 03:04:08 PM |
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In our last episode <m1%Gd.3446$Rs.912@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven L. lept out of the bushes shouting:
MrPepper11 wrote:
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids? Tale of Taxing
Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead, they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
. . . .
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids.
Oh, please. Hollywood liberals have crammed most movies and most
entertainment television with liberal messages, so kids are brainwashed
into liberalism every time they watch prime-time TV. It's not enough to
have a liberal President as hero and conservatives as villain on The West
Wing? It's not enough to make a movie about terrorism in which the
villains are changed from Tom Clancy's original depiction as Islamists
into neo-Nazis? It's not enough to have Hollywood celebrities depict
promiscuity and drug abuse as cool?
While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches, "there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids,"
Sure there are. They're called: PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The teachers that
belong to the NEA are mostly doctrinaire liberal and that's the message
that gets across to the kids. In the days after 9-11, high schools here
in Massachusetts invited Howard Zinn, a self-described Marxist professor,
to "explain" to the kids why 9-11 was really America's fault.
No school here in Massachusetts dared to broach the subject of Islamic
fundamentalist hatred of Western values.
Yeah, yeah. It's all a big conspiracy by the evil ACLU. They're going
after your little dog too!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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18 Jan 2005 03:05:26 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:xbGdnQRM0NmluXDcRVn-sg@megapath.net...
In our last episode <m1%Gd.3446$Rs.912@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven L. lept out of the bushes shouting:
MrPepper11 wrote:
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids? Tale of Taxing
Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead, they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
. . . .
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids.
Oh, please. Hollywood liberals have crammed most movies and most
entertainment television with liberal messages, so kids are brainwashed
into liberalism every time they watch prime-time TV. It's not enough to
have a liberal President as hero and conservatives as villain on The West
Wing? It's not enough to make a movie about terrorism in which the
villains are changed from Tom Clancy's original depiction as Islamists
into neo-Nazis? It's not enough to have Hollywood celebrities depict
promiscuity and drug abuse as cool?
While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches, "there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids,"
Sure there are. They're called: PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The teachers that
belong to the NEA are mostly doctrinaire liberal and that's the message
that gets across to the kids. In the days after 9-11, high schools here
in Massachusetts invited Howard Zinn, a self-described Marxist professor,
to "explain" to the kids why 9-11 was really America's fault.
No school here in Massachusetts dared to broach the subject of Islamic
fundamentalist hatred of Western values.
Yeah, yeah. It's all a big conspiracy by the evil ACLU. They're going
after your little dog too!
Hey, now! That's MY job. I'll SUE!!!!! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Steven L." |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
18 Jan 2005 09:35:25 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <m1%Gd.3446$Rs.912@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven L. lept out of the bushes shouting:
MrPepper11 wrote:
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids? Tale of Taxing
Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead, they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
. . . .
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids.
Oh, please. Hollywood liberals have crammed most movies and most
entertainment television with liberal messages, so kids are brainwashed
into liberalism every time they watch prime-time TV. It's not enough to
have a liberal President as hero and conservatives as villain on The West
Wing? It's not enough to make a movie about terrorism in which the
villains are changed from Tom Clancy's original depiction as Islamists
into neo-Nazis? It's not enough to have Hollywood celebrities depict
promiscuity and drug abuse as cool?
While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches, "there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids,"
Sure there are. They're called: PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The teachers that
belong to the NEA are mostly doctrinaire liberal and that's the message
that gets across to the kids. In the days after 9-11, high schools here
in Massachusetts invited Howard Zinn, a self-described Marxist professor,
to "explain" to the kids why 9-11 was really America's fault.
No school here in Massachusetts dared to broach the subject of Islamic
fundamentalist hatred of Western values.
Yeah, yeah. It's all a big conspiracy by the evil ACLU.
I didn't mention the ACLU in what I wrote.
I referred to the way Hollywood drenches entertainment in doctrinaire
liberalism, and the way that public school teachers and principals have
allowed the curriculum and guest speakers to be slanted toward liberal
values.
9-11 offered our schools the chance to interest kids in world affairs.
I am in favor of a balanced portrayal of that.
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Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
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| User: "Otaku_faith" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
18 Jan 2005 09:51:27 PM |
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Steven L. wrote:
MrPepper11 wrote:
Religious conservatives are trying to win the hearts and minds of
youngsters, many of whom will be able to vote in 2008...
January 17, 2005
In Divided U.S., A Big Question: Who Gets the Kids?
Tale of Taxing Lemonade Stand
By JEFFREY ZASLOW
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
ORLANDO, Fla. -- As conservatives plan for the battles ahead,
they're
enlisting a new generation of foot soldiers: kids....
. . . .
Some liberals say it's not easy for them to reach kids.
Oh, please. Hollywood liberals have crammed most movies and most
entertainment television with liberal messages, so kids are
brainwashed
into liberalism every time they watch prime-time TV. It's not enough
to
have a liberal President as hero and conservatives as villain on The
West Wing? Don't watch West-Wing so can't comment. Source for some
info? It's not enough to make a movie about terrorism in which the
villains are changed from Tom Clancy's original depiction as
Islamists
into neo-Nazis? Which Clancy movie? It's not enough to have
Hollywood celebrities depict
promiscuity and drug abuse as cool? Or to have right-wing radio lie
about causing cancer as recently as a few years ago.
While
conservatives have large forums, such as evangelical churches,
"there
aren't ACLU buildings that have meetings every Saturday for kids,"
Sure there are. They're called: PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The teachers that
belong to the NEA are mostly doctrinaire liberal and that's the
message
that gets across to the kids. Source for NEA being "liberal". In the
days after 9-11, high schools here
in Massachusetts invited Howard Zinn, a self-described Marxist
professor,Cite to where Zinn says he's Marxist? Last time I checked
he was more of an Progressive with Anarchist tendencies. (i.e. a caring
Libertarian). to "explain" to the kids why 9-11 was really America's
fault. It is in part our fault. We not only directly trained Osama and
the Mujahideen/Taliban with billions of taxpayer dollars, our role in
the Mid-East has inspired much hatred. This is not comment on how
effective our policy is, but that is has angered some Muslims. Merely
letting children know the history of our intervention does not a
liberal school system or Marxist make.
No school here in Massachusetts dared to broach the subject of
Islamic
fundamentalist hatred of Western values.
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Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
21 Jan 2005 09:49:07 AM |
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"STOP_George" <skiingkow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106108017.194776.85570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
<<<< Newsclip Autopsy >>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE
TRUTH REPORTED: CNN Finally Gets it Right!!!
http://newsclipautopsy.blogspot.com/2005/01/truth-reported-cnn-finally-gets-it.html
Eat ***** and die, liberal-*****.
Uncle Dave says: "The only way to talk to liberals is with a 2x4, hunting
dog, and a shotgun."
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
21 Jan 2005 06:46:08 PM |
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George wrote:
"STOP_George" <skiingkow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106108017.194776.85570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
<<<< Newsclip Autopsy >>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE
TRUTH REPORTED: CNN Finally Gets it Right!!!
http://newsclipautopsy.blogspot.com/2005/01/truth-reported-cnn-finally-gets-it.html
Eat ***** and die, liberal-*****.
George is having one of his more intelligent moments.
Jack
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| User: "Carlos" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
29 Jan 2005 05:31:14 PM |
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Hello,
How does the conservative use the shotgon to murder people he doesn't
agree with while he's holding the 2x4?
Does he hold the shotgun in one hand while he's beating people who have
other opinions with the 2x4?
Does he continue to hold both the shotgun and the 2x4 while he's being
butt-fucked by the dog?
How does he aim the shotgun, or swing the 2x4, with Bush's tiny little
***** in his mouth?
How does George have time to type in all his *****, with his hunting
dog's ***** up his *****, and Cheney's little chubby in his mouth?
Carlos
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
30 Jan 2005 02:05:12 AM |
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On 29 Jan 2005 09:31:14 -0800, "Carlos" <carlosmachina@yahoo.com> said
in alt.atheism:
How does the conservative use the shotgon to murder people he doesn't
agree with while he's holding the 2x4?
Conservatives don't kill people, religious wackos do.
--
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
21 Jan 2005 09:06:29 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:49:07 -0600, "George"
<spamfree@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
"STOP_George" <skiingkow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106108017.194776.85570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
<<<< Newsclip Autopsy >>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE
TRUTH REPORTED: CNN Finally Gets it Right!!!
http://newsclipautopsy.blogspot.com/2005/01/truth-reported-cnn-finally-gets-it.html
Eat ***** and die, liberal-*****.
I see you're working hard to maintain the usual high conservative
standards. <G>
Uncle Dave says: "The only way to talk to liberals is with a 2x4, hunting
dog, and a shotgun."
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
21 Jan 2005 09:25:48 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:m6s2v0pbcg66mjjv3b153n1l8mhi92hein@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:49:07 -0600, "George"
<spamfree@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
"STOP_George" <skiingkow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106108017.194776.85570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
<<<< Newsclip Autopsy >>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE
TRUTH REPORTED: CNN Finally Gets it Right!!!
http://newsclipautopsy.blogspot.com/2005/01/truth-reported-cnn-finally-gets
-it.html
Eat ***** and die, liberal-*****.
I see you're working hard to maintain the usual high conservative
standards. <G>
I'm actually trying to reach him in language that he understands. Since he
cannot get past his conspiracy theory and refuses to live in the objective
reality that the rest of us do.
Besides, acting civil to a liberal these days is a waste of time, breath and
energy.
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| User: "Otaku_faith" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
22 Jan 2005 04:47:34 PM |
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Which conspiracy theory would this be? And I'm not a liberal.
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| User: "STOP_George" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
22 Jan 2005 05:06:09 AM |
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Yes. Keep on believing that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11 and
keep on watching that very objective and highly informative <snicker>
medium that is called U.S. network T.V.
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
23 Jan 2005 05:37:49 PM |
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"STOP_George" <skiingkow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106370369.384097.147030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Yes. Keep on believing that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11 and
Where did I say Saddam had anything to do with 9/11, you lying fucking
***** toad?
keep on watching that very objective and highly informative <snicker>
medium that is called U.S. network T.V.
Keep on shoving it up your ***** with a baseball bat, *****.
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| User: "Steven L." |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
24 Jan 2005 04:25:14 PM |
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STOP_George wrote:
Yes. Keep on believing that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11
Saddam was related to 9-11 in EXACTLY the same way that Hitler was
related to the Pearl Harbor sneak attack. Same evil, same hatred of the
democratic West, same war.
Hitler and Stalin were able to form an alliance because they despised
democracy even more than they despised each other. That alliance caught
the naive, like yourself, completely off guard. But not me. As far as
I'm concerned, it's never outside the realm of possibility that
America-haters of different political persuasions can form alliances
with each other.
keep on watching that very objective and highly informative <snicker>
medium that is called U.S. network T.V.
What do you depend on for "objective" information? Al-Jazeera?
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "New Dark Ages" |
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25 Jan 2005 01:06:01 PM |
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wrote...
STOP_George wrote:
Yes. Keep on believing that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11
Saddam was related to 9-11 in EXACTLY the same way that Hitler was
related to the Pearl Harbor sneak attack. Same evil, same hatred of the
democratic West, same war.
Well I guess that puts China in your little party, then. After 9/11,
Chinese President Hu Jintao is widely reported to have spent several
days repeatedly watching video of the WTC attacks, unable to mask his
glee that an "overbearing and arrogant" America "was getting what it
deserved."
If China didn't offer cheap labor to US businesses, I guess we'd be
in there next. As it is, Chinese human rights violations are ignored
by ...overbearing and arrogant... moralists here in the US.
Hitler and Stalin were able to form an alliance because they despised
democracy even more than they despised each other. That alliance caught
the naive, like yourself, completely off guard. But not me. As far as
I'm concerned, it's never outside the realm of possibility that
America-haters of different political persuasions can form alliances
with each other.
keep on watching that very objective and highly informative <snicker>
medium that is called U.S. network T.V.
What do you depend on for "objective" information? Al-Jazeera?
You're aware that it's not illegal for US cable news programming to
lie, misrepresent facts, or contain outright bias?
I stick to print sources, myself.
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| User: "Thom" |
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| Title: Re: "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!" |
25 Jan 2005 11:40:36 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:25:14 GMT, "Steven L."
<> wrote:
STOP_George wrote:
Yes. Keep on believing that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11
Saddam was related to 9-11 in EXACTLY the same way that Hitler was
related to the Pearl Harbor sneak attack. Same evil, same hatred of the
democratic West, same war.
not same war. If Bush wasn't so conencted with the Saudis and the Bin
Laden family he would have nailed Saudi Arabia not Iraq.
THOM
Hitler and Stalin were able to form an alliance because they despised
democracy even more than they despised each other. That alliance caught
the naive, like yourself, completely off guard. But not me. As far as
I'm concerned, it's never outside the realm of possibility that
America-haters of different political persuasions can form alliances
with each other.
keep on watching that very objective and highly informative <snicker>
medium that is called U.S. network T.V.
What do you depend on for "objective" information? Al-Jazeera?
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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