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User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 08 Dec 2007 10:06:51 AM
Object: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d
Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.
Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/ge
neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program
Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey
found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its nuclear weapons
program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran has stopped the
weapons development along with 16% of women (see crosstabs).
The survey was conducted following release of a government report saying
that Iran halted its nuclear weapons development program in 2003.
The Rasmussen Reports survey also found that 67% of American voters
believe that Iran remains a threat to the national security of the United
States. Only 19% disagree while 14% are not sure.
Fifty-nine percent (59%) believe that the United States should continue
sanctions against Iran. Twenty percent (20%) disagree and 21% are not
sure.
Forty-seven percent (47%) believe it is Very Likely that Iran will
develop nuclear weapons in the future and another 34% believe Iran is
Somewhat Likely to do so.
Twenty-nine percent (29%) of liberal voters believe that Iran has stopped
its weapons program but 54% disagree.
Among conservatives, just 8% believe Iran has stopped and 81% disagree.
Despite the Iranian government's protestations to the contrary, an
earlier survey found that 67% believed that Irans nuclear program is
intended to develop nuclear weapons rather than nuclear energy.
Another survey found that, most voters doubt the United States can count
on its European allies when dealing with Iran. Just 1% of Americans view
Iran as an ally of the United States. Sixty-two percent (62%) believe
that Iran sponsors terrorist activities against the United States.
Only 6% disagree and 32% are not sure.
See survey questions and toplines. Crosstabs available for Premium
Members only.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
If you go into Sudan today; Your heart will fill with dread
If you go into Sudan today; You might just lose your head
Because on the sands; With blood on their hands
Every nut that ever was; Will be there because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears; Have their Jihad!
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 12:38:24 PM
On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/ge
neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey
found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its nuclear weapons
program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran has stopped the
weapons development along with 16% of women (see crosstabs).

Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 01:30:05 PM
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.

Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
If you go into Sudan today; Your heart will fill with dread
If you go into Sudan today; You might just lose your head
Because on the sands; With blood on their hands
Every nut that ever was; Will be there because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears; Have their Jihad!
.
User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 10 Dec 2007 05:11:23 PM
In article <Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@
216.151.153.46>, Fred Stone said...

Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.

Well, at least you're admitting that you're little
more than a run-of-the-mill troll.
But why, Fred, why?
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 10 Dec 2007 05:55:23 PM
Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in
news:MPG.21c791a89153dbf398ad28@216.196.97.136:

In article <Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@
216.151.153.46>, Fred Stone said...

Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


Well, at least you're admitting that you're little
more than a run-of-the-mill troll.

But why, Fred, why?

Because every once in a blue moon, somebody surprises me by engaging in a
conversation about the issue instead of playing Stupid Logic or Yangie-
pwn3d BDS-induced delirium.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
If you go into Sudan today; Your heart will fill with dread
If you go into Sudan today; You might just lose your head
Because on the sands; With blood on their hands
Every nut that ever was; Will be there because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears; Have their Jihad!
.


User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 01:45:05 PM
On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.

And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 09:23:31 AM
Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:adhol35lo9poa8mmvv8h84kgqdeobv4qsj@4ax.com...

On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?


--
Matt Silberstein

Do something today about the Darfur Genocide

http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org

"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"

.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 08:11:32 PM
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C9Y6j.18318$N67.2659@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!

"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:adhol35lo9poa8mmvv8h84kgqdeobv4qsj@4ax.com...

On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!

Fred Stone is not even a thinker - intelligent or otherwise. Thinking and
Fred Stone are diametrically opposed.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.
User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 08:38:49 PM
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:11:32 -1000, in alt.atheism , "G-Ride"
<gride42nospam@yahoo.com> in <5s3likF17bkihU1@mid.individual.net>
wrote:


"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C9Y6j.18318$N67.2659@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!

"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:adhol35lo9poa8mmvv8h84kgqdeobv4qsj@4ax.com...

On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!



Fred Stone is not even a thinker - intelligent or otherwise. Thinking and
Fred Stone are diametrically opposed.

Adding your own ad hom does not exactly help.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 10 Dec 2007 12:48:47 AM
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:cl9pl31qr1gms4es2qfiu4qomvr43ubtph@4ax.com...

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:11:32 -1000, in alt.atheism , "G-Ride"
<gride42nospam@yahoo.com> in <5s3likF17bkihU1@mid.individual.net>
wrote:


"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C9Y6j.18318$N67.2659@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!

"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:adhol35lo9poa8mmvv8h84kgqdeobv4qsj@4ax.com...

On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a
subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely,
you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as
a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!



Fred Stone is not even a thinker - intelligent or otherwise. Thinking and
Fred Stone are diametrically opposed.


Adding your own ad hom does not exactly help.

Fred Stone has long since lost any obligation of respect on my part.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.
User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 10 Dec 2007 01:13:36 AM
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:48:47 -1000, in alt.atheism , "G-Ride"
<gride42nospam@yahoo.com> in <5s45qfF16lk6nU1@mid.individual.net>
wrote:

"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:cl9pl31qr1gms4es2qfiu4qomvr43ubtph@4ax.com...

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:11:32 -1000, in alt.atheism , "G-Ride"
<gride42nospam@yahoo.com> in <5s3likF17bkihU1@mid.individual.net>
wrote:


"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C9Y6j.18318$N67.2659@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!

"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:adhol35lo9poa8mmvv8h84kgqdeobv4qsj@4ax.com...

On 09 Dec 2007 19:30:05 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A01938896B71freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:1edol35i9vjut66ko2nsqho6k6eoctqgf5@4ax.com:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a
subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/
ge neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone
survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its
nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran
has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see
crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely,
you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as
a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn
if what they think is, in fact, correct.


Or maybe I just post things that sound interesting to find out how many
stupid partisan comments idiots like you will make.


And what was partisan or idiotic about what I wrote? Or did you have
nothing but ad hom in response?

Fred Stone is not an intelligent thinker!



Fred Stone is not even a thinker - intelligent or otherwise. Thinking and
Fred Stone are diametrically opposed.


Adding your own ad hom does not exactly help.



Fred Stone has long since lost any obligation of respect on my part.

Fred is not the issue. Your actions reflect on you: use valid
arguments yourself. Ignore rather than insult.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.







User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Here's a poll for you, Yangie-pwn3d 09 Dec 2007 07:24:33 PM
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:38:24 -0500, Matt Silberstein wrote:

On 08 Dec 2007 16:06:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns9A0071199C10Ffreddybear@216.151.153.48> wrote:

Unfortunately, the crosstabs are not available without a subscription.

Interesting breakdown of conservative and liberal opinion though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/

ge

neral_current_events/just_18
_believe_iran_has_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear
weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey
found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its nuclear weapons
program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran has stopped the
weapons development along with 16% of women (see crosstabs).


Wow, you think that truth is determined by poll. Or, more likely, you
like polls to the exact extent that you agree with the results and
dismiss them to the exact extent that they don't. Me, I see polls as a
potential way to find out what people think (and so a good way to
predict future actions of *those* people), but as a poor way to learn if
what they think is, in fact, correct.

Reality is what The Party says it is.
Now, off to room 101 with you!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Communism, like any other revealed religion,
is largely made up of prophecies.”
- H. L. Mencken
.



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