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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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24 Mar 2005 12:09:32 AM |
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High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-21/1111385482243350.xml
High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 12:19:43 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111644572.209410.145360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
And God knows we don't need to be any better than them.
Jim
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 01:53:54 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111644572.209410.145360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-21/1111385482243350.xml
And if you get your way, Americans will be just another bunch of criminals.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 02:17:27 PM |
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111644572.209410.145360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-21/1111385482243350.xml
And if you get your way, Americans will be just another bunch of criminals.
What the Young One does not understand, is that these inmates are suing,
under the First Amendment, to do exactly what Young and his ilk would
make illegal.
Practice a religion, other then Young's religion.
Apparently, according to J Young, there is freedom of religion, as long
as it's J Young's religion only.
So, let's see if this makes sense now.
Bible based religions, are "available" to inmates. So is Islam. Some,
but not very many, prisons, do allow for Wiccan practices, minus the
"sharp" tools of the worship.
But, Native Americans, who's ancestors were here, thousands of years
before the white man showed up, are not allowed to practice their
religion, along side the bible thumpers, nature worshipers, and muslims?
Perhaps J Young should take a class in constitutional law, before
putting the foot, into the keyboard again.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 08:12:32 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1111644572.209410.145360
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
The Bill of Rights protects those accused of
crimes by the government. If you don't like those
protections, then perhaps you could point some
other country's constitution you prefer instead?
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 08:45:21 AM |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1111644572.209410.145360
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
The Bill of Rights protects those accused of
crimes by the government. If you don't like those
protections, then perhaps you could point some
other country's constitution you prefer instead?
I wasn't addressing those accused of crimes, I was referring to those
convicted. Big difference.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 01:53:55 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111675521.221271.267390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Bill of Rights protects those accused of
crimes by the government. If you don't like those
protections, then perhaps you could point some
other country's constitution you prefer instead?
I wasn't addressing those accused of crimes, I was referring to those
convicted. Big difference.
People convicted of crimes still have rights.
It's immoral for you to advocate the removal of those rights.
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 09:10:53 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1111675521.221271.267390
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1111644572.209410.145360
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
The Bill of Rights protects those accused of
crimes by the government. If you don't like those
protections, then perhaps you could point some
other country's constitution you prefer instead?
I wasn't addressing those accused of crimes, I was referring to those
convicted. Big difference.
Even "those convicted" have rights. But maybe
you should call Gordon Liddy's show and tell him
he had too many rights when he was in prison.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
28 Mar 2005 09:14:06 AM |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1111644572.209410.145360
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
The Bill of Rights protects those accused of
crimes by the government. If you don't like those
protections, then perhaps you could point some
other country's constitution you prefer instead?
It also protects those convicted of crimes.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 10:03:38 AM |
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On 23 Mar 2005 22:09:32 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Perhaps we as a society should wonder why we spend so much time,
energy, and resources worrying about those harm us, whether here at
home with our common criminals or abroad with our military enemies.
These people sure aren't worrying about us or our rights.
Didn't Jesus tell you to love ylour enemies, and to turn the other
cheek, etc.?
Jesus.
Jesus CHRIST.
Remember him? Messiah, Savior, God's only son (ignore the sons of God
in Genesis)?
He taught forgiveness, mercy.. aw forget.. modern Christians don't
want all that wussy stuff.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 01:54:00 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:h4p541taoae3mnf260v7b1ru2v97djjc88@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 22:09:32 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Didn't Jesus tell you to love ylour enemies, and to turn the other
cheek, etc.?
If Jesus were to walk into a NeoChristian church, with his long hair,
jobless friends and sandals and preaching his liberal values...
He would be cruxified.
Never fool yourself for one minute into thinking the NeoChristians follow
Jesus' teachings in any way.
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
24 Mar 2005 09:34:28 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:00 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"
<usenet@kaufman.net> wrote:
Never fool yourself for one minute into thinking the NeoChristians follow
Jesus' teachings in any way.
Except the part about Jesus whipping people.
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MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: High court to weigh prisoners' religious rights |
28 Mar 2005 09:16:55 AM |
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MsAnthrope wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:00 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"
<usenet@kaufman.net> wrote:
Never fool yourself for one minute into thinking the NeoChristians follow
Jesus' teachings in any way.
Except the part about Jesus whipping people.
Ah, but who are the money-changers in today's Temple? I would assert they are
the false prophets (Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsay) and fake healers (Oral
Roberts, Benny Hinn) who weep and beg because they only have five
Mercedes-Benzes "in God's holy Name."
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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