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User: "Angel - Inner Quest"
Date: 01 Feb 2008 08:16:24 PM
Object: Higher learning
Higher learning
In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."
No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings. No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either. There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.
In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.
INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all. It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.
Here below are a selected few of the more important and representative
studies and groups that take up various other aspects of the New
Divine Teachings. Whatever your sentiments and preferences, you should
be able to find what you are looking for in the list below. It is our
hope that they can assist you in your own quest for deeper
understanding and knowledge of the Truth.
Basic principles - Recommended studies
A High Lama reveals the ancient secrets of the Buddhas
http://www.lobsangrampa.org/research.html
Lobsang Rampa book offerings and free e-book downloads
http://www.lobsangrampa.net/lobsang_rampa.html
Elementary Theosophy - An introduction
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/ktmanual/kt-theos.htm#ch1
Basic Theosophy by Alvin Kuhn - Free e-book
http://members.tripod.com/%7Epc93/tsphyraw.htm
Theosophy's root-races
http://armanen.blogspot.com/2007/12/root-races.html
Edgar Cayce - His life and works
http://www.crystalinks.com/edgar_cayce.html
Edgar Cayce on the incarnations of Jesus
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen049.html
Rosicrucian Home Study Lessons with listing of courses and the
subjects covered
http://www.rosicrucian.org/about/mastery/mastery06home.html
Irrefutable objective evidence for the Afterlife by Victor Zammit
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/index.html
Guided meditation techniques
http://www.meditationguru.com/meditation.php?acode=na
Minnesota State University on World Religions
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/religion/
Authorship of the Bible
http://www.childpastlives.org/library_articles/earlybible.htm
The circumstances surrounding the formulation and adoption of the
Nicene Creed
http://www.childpastlives.org/library_articles/dogma.htm
Critics and contrarians
Vatican primer on New Age
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines on New Age
http://www.cbcponline.net/documents/2000s/html/2003-newage.html
CARM on the New Age Movement
http://www.carm.org/newage.htm
A Christian group's interpretation of New Age
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/newage.htm
Discussion groups
Spiritists in the Philippines Discussion Forum
http://uecfi.net/dforum/index.php
Theosophy Forum
http://theosophy-forum.com/index.php
Mystic Board - Discussions in New Age and other Occult subjects
http://www.mysticboard.com/index.php?sid=b040890841f030d5a7b3250eec296649
Conscious Living Foundation Forum
http://consciouslivingfoundation.org/friends/forum/index.php?sid=89a5bd0dfb02e6fecad33ffa0d0ba980
CARM.ORG - Christian discussion forum on New Age
http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/forumdisplay.php?f=103
.

User: "Jeckyl"

Title: Re: Higher learning 02 Feb 2008 07:46:35 AM
"Angel - Inner Quest" <luz@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:c2242a70-992e-427b-9f52-dbee79bc1a5f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...


Higher learning

In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress.

Sounds like religions

Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."

Again, it sounds like religions are being talked about.
BTW: That sounds like the words of Buddha .. is that to whom you are
referring?

No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings.

Actually .. no .. it doesn't follow

No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either.

An interesting assertion .. when I key in 1 + 1 = into my calculator, it
says 2 .. that is completely true and accurate.

There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.

Indeed it is

In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.

Excatly .. a sentiment echoed by the founder of Agnosticism .. Huxley

INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all.

How did you manage to make that amzing leap into irrationality?

It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.

Yes .. I am looking at getting a wide screen LCD TV as well
[snip advertisements]
.
User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 06:25:01 AM
On Feb 2, 9:46 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Angel - Inner Quest" <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in messagenews:c2242a70-992e-427b-9f52-dbee79bc1a5f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...



Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress.


Sounds like religions

Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."


Again, it sounds like religions are being talked about.

BTW: That sounds like the words of Buddha .. is that to whom you are
referring?

No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings.


Actually .. no .. it doesn't follow

No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either.


An interesting assertion .. when I key in 1 + 1 = into my calculator, it
says 2 .. that is completely true and accurate.

There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.


Indeed it is

In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.


Excatly .. a sentiment echoed by the founder of Agnosticism .. Huxley

INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all.


How did you manage to make that amzing leap into irrationality?

It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.


Yes .. I am looking at getting a wide screen LCD TV as well

[snip advertisements]

To genuine seekers and the spiritually aware, there is no
irrationality. All who seek the Truth can find it! Even you.
.
User: "David V."

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 11:19:21 AM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:


To genuine seekers and the spiritually aware, there is no
irrationality. All who seek the Truth can find it! Even you.

ROTFLMFAO! I've found the truth and you don't have it. What
you're regurgitating here is pure irrationality. Are you aware
that you are a very sick person and need serious psychological help?
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
.

User: "ken"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 12:04:32 PM
On Feb 4, 4:25=A0am, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

To genuine seekers and the spiritually aware, there is no
irrationality. All who seek the Truth can find it!

You a seeker?
You couldn't even find your own rectum
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 10:04:05 AM
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:25:01 -0800 (PST), Angel - Inner Quest
<luz@nerdshack.com> wrote:

On Feb 2, 9:46 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Angel - Inner Quest" <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in messagenews:c2242a70-992e-427b-9f52-dbee79bc1a5f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...



Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress.


Sounds like religions

Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."


Again, it sounds like religions are being talked about.

BTW: That sounds like the words of Buddha .. is that to whom you are
referring?

No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings.


Actually .. no .. it doesn't follow

No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either.


An interesting assertion .. when I key in 1 + 1 = into my calculator, it
says 2 .. that is completely true and accurate.

There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.


Indeed it is

In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.


Excatly .. a sentiment echoed by the founder of Agnosticism .. Huxley

INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all.


How did you manage to make that amzing leap into irrationality?

It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.


Yes .. I am looking at getting a wide screen LCD TV as well

[snip advertisements]



To genuine seekers and the spiritually aware, there is no
irrationality. All who seek the Truth can find it! Even you.

Hate to burst your bubble, but when you finally reach the truth,
you'll realize that we atheists had it right all along.
.
User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 08:31:45 PM
On Feb 5, 12:04 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:25:01 -0800 (PST), Angel - Inner Quest



<l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

On Feb 2, 9:46 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Angel - Inner Quest" <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in messagenews:c2242a70-992e-427b-9f52-dbee79bc1a5f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...


Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress.


Sounds like religions


Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."


Again, it sounds like religions are being talked about.


BTW: That sounds like the words of Buddha .. is that to whom you are
referring?


No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings.


Actually .. no .. it doesn't follow


No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either.


An interesting assertion .. when I key in 1 + 1 = into my calculator, it
says 2 .. that is completely true and accurate.


There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.


Indeed it is


In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.


Excatly .. a sentiment echoed by the founder of Agnosticism .. Huxley


INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all.


How did you manage to make that amzing leap into irrationality?


It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.


Yes .. I am looking at getting a wide screen LCD TV as well


[snip advertisements]


To genuine seekers and the spiritually aware, there is no
irrationality. All who seek the Truth can find it! Even you.


Hate to burst your bubble, but when you finally reach the truth,
you'll realize that we atheists had it right all along.

Then you're greater than Einstein. He admits that he doesn't.
Once in answer to the question "Do you believe in the God of Spinoza?"
Einstein replied as follows:
I can't answer with a simple yes or no. I'm not an atheist and I don't
think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a
little child entering a huge library filled with books in many
different languages. The child knows someone must have written those
books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious
order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is.
That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent
human being toward God. We see a universe marvellously arranged and
obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws.
Brian, op. cit. p. 186.
.
User: "Charles & Mambo Duckman"

Title: Re: Higher learning 05 Feb 2008 12:30:18 AM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

Once in answer to the question "Do you believe in the God of Spinoza?"
Einstein replied as follows:

He did? Holy hell, I am running, not walking to the nearest Church of the
God of Spinoza. I am not sure if there is one, but I am still running.
I hope they're open at 11:00 PM.
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
.





User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Higher learning 01 Feb 2008 08:32:54 PM
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Angel - Inner Quest wrote:
| Higher learning
|
Is not for everyone.
And apparently, you took that advice.
Oh well, P T Barnum was right, even if he didn't really say it.
- --
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 08:28:50 PM
On Feb 2, 10:32 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
wrote:

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Angel - Inner Quest wrote:
| Higher learning
|
Is not for everyone.

And apparently, you took that advice.

Oh well, P T Barnum was right, even if he didn't really say it.

- --
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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Einstein believed that the Jesus narrative is true. But we should
believe you and not him, you think?
Einstein: Excerpts from The Saturday Evening Post, in 1929":
Interviewer: "To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
Einstein: "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in
the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of
the Nazarene."
Interviewer: "Have you read Emil Ludwig's book on Jesus?"
Einstein: "Emil Ludwig's Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for
the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of
Christianity with a bon mot."
Interviewer: "You accept the historical Jesus?"
Einstein: "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling
the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word.
No myth is filled with such life."
In view of this interview, it is understandable that Einstein is
reported to have said that Christ Jesus was the greatest of all Jews.
.
User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 09:06:11 PM
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Angel - Inner Quest wrote:
| On Feb 2, 10:32 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net>
| wrote:
| Angel - Inner Quest wrote:
| | Higher learning
| |
| Is not for everyone.
|
| And apparently, you took that advice.
|
| Oh well, P T Barnum was right, even if he didn't really say it.
|
| Einstein believed that the Jesus narrative is true. But we should
| believe you and not him, you think?
| Einstein: Excerpts from The Saturday Evening Post, in 1929":
| Interviewer: "To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
| Einstein: "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in
| the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of
| the Nazarene."
| Interviewer: "Have you read Emil Ludwig's book on Jesus?"
| Einstein: "Emil Ludwig's Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for
| the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of
| Christianity with a bon mot."
| Interviewer: "You accept the historical Jesus?"
| Einstein: "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling
| the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word.
| No myth is filled with such life."
| In view of this interview, it is understandable that Einstein is
| reported to have said that Christ Jesus was the greatest of all Jews.
|
Sigh, already been through this a bunch of times.
Einstein did NOT believe in a personal god, much less the xtian personal
god.
Get over it bub. No evidence, no gods.
- --
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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User: "David V."

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 11:29:05 PM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:



Einstein believed that the Jesus narrative is true. But we
should believe you and not him, you think?

I think it is asinine and dishonest of christians to try to
christianize Einstein.
He was not a believer in any god, and certainly not a believer in
any of the christian ones.
And don't give that crap about Spinoza's god. That wasn't a god
but an "awe of the Universe."
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
.

User: "Charles & Mambo Duckman"

Title: Re: Higher learning 05 Feb 2008 12:28:13 AM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

Einstein believed that the Jesus narrative is true.

He did? Holy hell, I am running, not walking to the nearest Christian church!!!
Luckily, this is America, so I don't have to run too far, but still...
I hope they're open at 11:00 PM.
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
.

User: "James Beck"

Title: Re: Higher learning 05 Feb 2008 08:56:05 AM
In article <bb272c5a-1c42-4704-bacf-
f6ba362e70df@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
says...



Einstein believed that the Jesus narrative is true. But we should
believe you and not him, you think?

Einstein: Excerpts from The Saturday Evening Post, in 1929":

Interviewer: "To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"

Einstein: "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in
the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of
the Nazarene."

Interviewer: "Have you read Emil Ludwig's book on Jesus?"

Einstein: "Emil Ludwig's Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for
the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of
Christianity with a bon mot."

Interviewer: "You accept the historical Jesus?"

Einstein: "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling
the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word.
No myth is filled with such life."

In view of this interview, it is understandable that Einstein is
reported to have said that Christ Jesus was the greatest of all Jews.

Have a link to this supposed information?
Didn't think so, and if you had actually kept up with the discussions
around here you would have seen actual Einstein quotes with real
references to the material.
Jim
.



User: "Sanitys Little Helper"

Title: Re: Higher learning 02 Feb 2008 04:47:33 AM
Angel - Inner Quest <luz@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:c2242a70-992e-427b-
9f52-dbee79bc1a5f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 02 Feb
2008:

Subject: Higher learning
From: Angel - Inner Quest <luz@nerdshack.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, talk.atheism


Higher learning

Just one question here. What kind of response did you expect?
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".
The monkeys are loose in the library again. They're gibbbering something
about "Answers In Genesis".

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 06:31:39 AM
On Feb 2, 6:47 pm, "Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org>
wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:c2242a70-992e-427b-
9f52-dbee79bc1...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 02 Feb
2008:

Subject: Higher learning
From: Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, talk.atheism


Higher learning


Just one question here. What kind of response did you expect?

--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".

The monkeys are loose in the library again. They're gibbbering something
about "Answers In Genesis".

Everyone at some point in his life is invited to pursue higher studies
and development. Now, it's your turn to decide your future fate and
life's course -- whether to stagnate where you stand or continue on
the road to progress.
.
User: "David V."

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 11:21:42 AM
wrote:


Everyone at some point in his life is invited to pursue higher
studies and development. Now, it's your turn to decide your
future fate and life's course -- whether to stagnate where you
stand or continue on the road to progress.

The problem is that the OP is not offering any thing in the way
of higher studies. He's offering the blatherings of a moron
masquerading as higher learning.
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 09:59:44 AM
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:31:39 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 2, 6:47 pm, "Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org>
wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:c2242a70-992e-427b-
9f52-dbee79bc1...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 02 Feb
2008:

Subject: Higher learning
From: Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, talk.atheism


Higher learning


Just one question here. What kind of response did you expect?

--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".

The monkeys are loose in the library again. They're gibbbering something
about "Answers In Genesis".



Everyone at some point in his life is invited to pursue higher studies
and development. Now, it's your turn to decide your future fate and
life's course -- whether to stagnate where you stand or continue on
the road to progress.

Progress normally entails shedding superstitions, not acquiring them.
.


User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 06:24:01 AM
On Feb 2, 6:47 pm, "Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org>
wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:c2242a70-992e-427b-
9f52-dbee79bc1...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 02 Feb
2008:

Subject: Higher learning
From: Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, talk.atheism


Higher learning


Just one question here. What kind of response did you expect?

--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".

The monkeys are loose in the library again. They're gibbbering something
about "Answers In Genesis".

Think of me as just a messenger. After I deliver the messages to you,
my work is done. Then, it's entirely up to you what you do with them.
You can enhance your prospects when you enter into the Real Life to
come or you may not. It matters not to me.
.
User: "James Beck"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 09:39:58 AM
In article <c2bb3379-cd0c-4019-8e6b-cefb69969ad9
@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
says...

On Feb 2, 6:47 pm, "Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org>
wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:c2242a70-992e-427b-
9f52-dbee79bc1...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 02 Feb
2008:

Subject: Higher learning
From: Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, talk.atheism


Higher learning


Just one question here. What kind of response did you expect?

--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".

The monkeys are loose in the library again. They're gibbbering something
about "Answers In Genesis".



Think of me as just a messenger. After I deliver the messages to you,
my work is done. Then, it's entirely up to you what you do with them.
You can enhance your prospects when you enter into the Real Life to
come or you may not. It matters not to me.


If it doesn't matter to you, why did you waste your time?
The only message I got was that you don't understand what an atheist is.
Jim
.



User: "David V."

Title: Re: Higher learning 01 Feb 2008 09:15:42 PM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

Higher learning

In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned.....

You should be forewarned that if there is a "master" involved
he's most likely a master at BS. You won't be getting any "higher
learning" but his wallet will be getting thicker.
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
.
User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 06:22:58 AM
On Feb 2, 11:15 am, "David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned.....


You should be forewarned that if there is a "master" involved
he's most likely a master at BS. You won't be getting any "higher
learning" but his wallet will be getting thicker.
--
Dave

You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman

Inner Quest http://innerquest.org.ph/ is a free education Website.
With the exception of the Rosicrucians, all the other links are free
reference sites, as well.
.
User: "David V."

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 11:17:02 AM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

On Feb 2, 11:15 am, "David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Angel - Inner Quest wrote:


Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned.....


You should be forewarned that if there is a "master"
involved he's most likely a master at BS. You won't be
getting any "higher learning" but his wallet will be getting
thicker.


Inner Quest http://innerquest.org.ph/ is a free education
Website. With the exception of the Rosicrucians, all the other
links are free reference sites, as well.

Your site gives no education. It provides a ladder that takes you
down into the dank darkness of inane religious fantasy. The
"master" you mentioned is making money or else he would not be
putting out the BS he is. You're a fool for believing a word he says.
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
.



User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Higher learning 03 Feb 2008 02:52:08 AM
On Feb 1, 9:16 pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Higher learning

....Means any learning higher then the bible.
In fact, any learning of any kind.
PDW, AA#1148
.

User: "Wexford"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 10:27:37 AM
On Feb 1, 9:16=A0pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Higher learning

In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. . .

I think you are trying to learn something, although you're a bit
confused on what it is you should learn. V.S. Naipaul (Nobel Laureat)
in his book "Among the Believers" relates a anecdote about an
engineering student who uses the Month of Ramadan not to study for his
exams (which is what all his classmates do) but to occupy his time in
a series of prayers and rituals, as a result of which he will almost
certainly fail in school. His parents, their neighbors and his friends
all admire his piety, and he basks in their admiration. As Naipaul
points out, however, mumbo-jumbo is infinitely easier to do than the
hard work of studying physics and mechanics. The student has abdicated
his studies in favor of prayer and ritual, yet is praised for it.
Naipaul sees this as the coward's course, the lazy man's pursuit and
one of the reasons why countries infested with intrusive religious
beliefs don't advance.
Here's what I think you should do. Leave the feet of the master. You
don't learn from anyone's feet, but from their heads. Go back to
school and study science and math. It's hard, but start with the
simplest courses and work your way up. Put real time and enegry into
learning. No one ever got anything accomplished by sitting and
meditating or pondering the mysteries of the universe or by listening
to some quarter-assed fool babble about "New Age" nonsense.
As it is, you're currently an ignorant, gullible person. Get humble.
Realize you know nothing (not in the Guru's sense of knowing nothing,
but in the sense that you've never learned a scientific discipline),
and get to work. Let us know in 10 years how you've done.
.
User: "Angel - Inner Quest"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 08:35:04 PM
On Feb 5, 12:27 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:16 pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. . .


I think you are trying to learn something, although you're a bit
confused on what it is you should learn. V.S. Naipaul (Nobel Laureat)
in his book "Among the Believers" relates a anecdote about an
engineering student who uses the Month of Ramadan not to study for his
exams (which is what all his classmates do) but to occupy his time in
a series of prayers and rituals, as a result of which he will almost
certainly fail in school. His parents, their neighbors and his friends
all admire his piety, and he basks in their admiration. As Naipaul
points out, however, mumbo-jumbo is infinitely easier to do than the
hard work of studying physics and mechanics. The student has abdicated
his studies in favor of prayer and ritual, yet is praised for it.
Naipaul sees this as the coward's course, the lazy man's pursuit and
one of the reasons why countries infested with intrusive religious
beliefs don't advance.

Here's what I think you should do. Leave the feet of the master. You
don't learn from anyone's feet, but from their heads. Go back to
school and study science and math. It's hard, but start with the
simplest courses and work your way up. Put real time and enegry into
learning. No one ever got anything accomplished by sitting and
meditating or pondering the mysteries of the universe or by listening
to some quarter-assed fool babble about "New Age" nonsense.

As it is, you're currently an ignorant, gullible person. Get humble.
Realize you know nothing (not in the Guru's sense of knowing nothing,
but in the sense that you've never learned a scientific discipline),
and get to work. Let us know in 10 years how you've done.

So you think that your science already knows everything. Einstein
doesn't agree. Einstein must be a fool, too. Right?
.
User: "Charles & Mambo Duckman"

Title: Re: Higher learning 05 Feb 2008 12:31:52 AM
Angel - Inner Quest wrote:

So you think that your science already knows everything. Einstein
doesn't agree.

He doesn't? Holy hell, I am running, not walking to the nearest Church of
Whatever Einstein Doesn't Agree With.
I hope they're open at 11:00 PM.
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
.

User: "Wexford"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 10:13:11 PM
On Feb 4, 9:35=A0pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

On Feb 5, 12:27 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Feb 1, 9:16 pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:


Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. . .


I think you are trying to learn something, although you're a bit
confused on what it is you should learn. V.S. Naipaul (Nobel Laureat)
in his book "Among the Believers" relates a anecdote about an
engineering student who uses the Month of Ramadan not to study for his
exams (which is what all his classmates do) but to occupy his time in
a series of prayers and rituals, as a result of which he will almost
certainly fail in school. His parents, their neighbors and his friends
all admire his piety, and he basks in their admiration. As Naipaul
points out, however, mumbo-jumbo is infinitely easier to do than the
hard work of studying physics and mechanics. The student has abdicated
his studies in favor of prayer and ritual, yet is praised for it.
Naipaul sees this as the coward's course, the lazy man's pursuit and
one of the reasons why countries infested with intrusive religious
beliefs don't advance.


Here's what I think you should do. Leave the feet of the master. You
don't learn from anyone's feet, but from their heads. Go back to
school and study science and math. It's hard, but start with the
simplest courses and work your way up. Put real time and enegry into
learning. No one ever got anything accomplished by sitting and
meditating or pondering the mysteries of the universe or by listening
to some quarter-assed fool babble about "New Age" nonsense.


As it is, you're currently an ignorant, gullible person. Get humble.
Realize you know nothing (not in the Guru's sense of knowing nothing,
but in the sense that you've never learned a scientific discipline),
and get to work. Let us know in 10 years how you've done.

??????

So you think that your science already knows everything. Einstein
doesn't agree. Einstein must be a fool, too. Right?

No. I think YOU know nothing about science, and you haven't the
foggiest notion of what Einstein thought. Even Einstein was humble
enough to seek a tutor in math so that he could understand Lorenz
transformations. Once you've learned a bit about the crowning
intellectual achievement of mankind, you can rationally criticise it.
As it stands, you're a silly little savage pissing on a cathedral.
.

User: "Richo"

Title: Re: Higher learning 06 Feb 2008 01:11:25 AM
On Feb 5, 1:35=A0pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

On Feb 5, 12:27 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Feb 1, 9:16 pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:


Higher learning


In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. . .


I think you are trying to learn something, although you're a bit
confused on what it is you should learn. V.S. Naipaul (Nobel Laureat)
in his book "Among the Believers" relates a anecdote about an
engineering student who uses the Month of Ramadan not to study for his
exams (which is what all his classmates do) but to occupy his time in
a series of prayers and rituals, as a result of which he will almost
certainly fail in school. His parents, their neighbors and his friends
all admire his piety, and he basks in their admiration. As Naipaul
points out, however, mumbo-jumbo is infinitely easier to do than the
hard work of studying physics and mechanics. The student has abdicated
his studies in favor of prayer and ritual, yet is praised for it.
Naipaul sees this as the coward's course, the lazy man's pursuit and
one of the reasons why countries infested with intrusive religious
beliefs don't advance.


Here's what I think you should do. Leave the feet of the master. You
don't learn from anyone's feet, but from their heads. Go back to
school and study science and math. It's hard, but start with the
simplest courses and work your way up. Put real time and enegry into
learning. No one ever got anything accomplished by sitting and
meditating or pondering the mysteries of the universe or by listening
to some quarter-assed fool babble about "New Age" nonsense.


As it is, you're currently an ignorant, gullible person. Get humble.
Realize you know nothing (not in the Guru's sense of knowing nothing,
but in the sense that you've never learned a scientific discipline),
and get to work. Let us know in 10 years how you've done.


So you think that your science already knows everything.

No No No!
If you already knew everything there would be absolutely no point in
science at all.
Science is a way of knowing things.

Einstein
doesn't agree.

Of course not! He was a genius.

Einstein must be a fool, too. Right

No! You do not understand!!!!
Science is 2 (TWO) differnt things
(1) A method of learning true things about the world.
(2) The collection of things learned.
Get it ?
Mark.
.



User: "Gwen Bennet"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 10:20:49 AM
On Feb 1, 9:16=A0pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Higher learning

Higher learning is against religious code.
.

User: "Richo"

Title: Re: Higher learning 06 Feb 2008 01:04:40 AM
On Feb 2, 1:16=A0pm, Angel - Inner Quest <l...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Higher learning

In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."

Very wise.
This is the essence of the Freethinker.
If thinking free of prejudice and supperstition leads one to atheism?
What then?

No one being perfect, it follows that no single source or school can
ever completely cover every aspect of the divine teachings. No source
of information in our world is ever completely true and accurate,
either. There are many falsehoods and half-truths mixed in along with
the true. Nevertheless, some sources are more reliable than others. It
is for each of us to discern for ourselves.

In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.

INNER QUEST is just one link in the chain that is the New Age
Movement. We continue the work of the Masters and the Spirits of
Truth, while attempting to unite as one all that have come before.
There is only One God and one Truth, after all. It is merely a matter
of being able to access the entire Big Picture.

Ah! so we have given up on the whole "open minded" thing then - didnt
last long did it?
Pity.
Cheers, Mark.
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Higher learning 01 Feb 2008 10:23:03 PM
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:16:24 -0800 (PST), Angel - Inner Quest
<luz@nerdshack.com> wrote:


Higher learning

In 'At the feet of the Master', we are forewarned: "There are in the
world many untrue thoughts, many foolish superstitions and no one who
is enslaved by them can make progress. Therefore, you must not hold a
thought just because many other people hold it, not because it has
been believed for centuries nor because it is written in some book
which men think sacred; you must think of the matter for yourself, and
judge for yourself whether it is reasonable. He who walks the Path
must learn to think for himself, for superstition is one of the
greatest evils in the world, one of the fetters from which you must
utterly free yourself."

What part of the word "atheist" are you pretending you are too stupid
to understand?
Do you realise that all this does is demonstrate what a fucking moron
you are?
Which we wouldn't even have known if you had the common sense and
courtesy to keep it to yourself instead of rudely and stupidly wiping
it in our faces.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Higher learning 04 Feb 2008 09:57:45 AM
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:16:24 -0800 (PST), Angel - Inner Quest
<luz@nerdshack.com> wrote:

In the search for Truth, we are to analyze, test and question
everything. The basic rule is to accept only those propositions that
we find to be reasonable and test true in light of our own personal
experiences and to reject all that do not.

Bollocks. Subjective experience is a very poor guide to reality;
logic, reason, and science are far more effective tools.
.


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