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16 Jun 2004 03:37:57 AM |
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Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1239763,00.html
Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
According to the documents from Vatican archives relating to the
trials of Jews, Muslims, Cathars, witches, scientists and other
non-Catholics in Europe between the 13th and the 19th centuries, the
number actually killed or tortured into confession during the
Inquisition was far fewer than previously thought.
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| User: "MrPepper11" |
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| Title: Re: Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
16 Jun 2004 01:50:09 PM |
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(maff) wrote in message news:<18510aff.0406160037.70d13fd3@posting.google.com>...
Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1239763,00.html
Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
Why, as a matter of fact the people who were tortured and roasted had
a jolly good time.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
16 Jun 2004 03:37:25 PM |
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"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
Why, as a matter of fact the people who were tortured and roasted had
a jolly good time.
You're missing the point.
The story isn't saying anything "new." There have been studies and papers
which said the exact same thing in the past. The point isn't that the
inquisition wasn't bad, it's that it wasn't any worse -- and in some ways
much better than -- other secular & religious legal bodies.
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
16 Jun 2004 02:18:47 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by (MrPepper11)
in <57cfd534.0406160935.1f3a7680@posting.google.com>:
maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote in message news:<18510aff.0406160037.70d13fd3@posting.google.com>...
Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1239763,00.html
Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
Why, as a matter of fact the people who were tortured and roasted had
a jolly good time.
Only the few who actually were witches.
"Non-magic people (commonly known as Muggles) were particularly
afraid of magic in medieval times, but not very good at
recognizing it. On the rare occasion that they did catch a real
witch or wizard, burning had no effect whatsoever. The witch or
wizard would perform a basic Flame Freezing Charm and then pretend
to shriek with pain while enjoying a gentle, tickling sensation.
Indeed, Wendelin the Weird enjoyed being burned so much that she
allowed herself to be caught no less than forty-seven times in
various disguises."
Bathilda Bagshot, _A History of Magic_
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"If Bush was a doctor he'd use the 'get well soon' card
to diagnose the illness." - Get Your War On
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
16 Jun 2004 01:49:53 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:37:57 -0700, maff wrote in alt.atheism:
Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1239763,00.html
Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
According to the documents from Vatican archives relating to the
trials of Jews, Muslims, Cathars, witches, scientists and other
non-Catholics in Europe between the 13th and the 19th centuries, the
number actually killed or tortured into confession during the
Inquisition was far fewer than previously thought.
Interesting article, it says 1% were executed and torture only allowed for
15 minutes, with the presence of a doctor as a requirement.
I wonder. Allowed for 15 minutes out of what time period, and did the
doctor direct the torture?
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad |
16 Jun 2004 02:15:57 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by stoney <stoney@thebat.net>
in <pan.2004.06.16.18.49.53.430372@thebat.net>:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:37:57 -0700, maff wrote in alt.atheism:
Historians say Inquisition wasn't that bad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1239763,00.html
Sophie Arie in Rome
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian
For centuries people were burned at the stake, stretched to death or
otherwise tortured for failing to be Roman Catholic. But, if research
released by the Vatican is right, the Inquisition was not as bad as
one might think.
According to the documents from Vatican archives relating to the
trials of Jews, Muslims, Cathars, witches, scientists and other
non-Catholics in Europe between the 13th and the 19th centuries, the
number actually killed or tortured into confession during the
Inquisition was far fewer than previously thought.
Interesting article, it says 1% were executed and torture only allowed for
15 minutes, with the presence of a doctor as a requirement.
I wonder. Allowed for 15 minutes out of what time period, and did the
doctor direct the torture?
There wasn't much difference between doctors and torturers
in those days, given that they didn't have anesthetic or
much of a clue about what they were doing.
Anyway, I guess the 99% who weren't executed got off on a
technicality - they didn't survive long enough to be executed.
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"If Bush was a doctor he'd use the 'get well soon' card
to diagnose the illness." - Get Your War On
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