Religions > Atheism > Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist
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31 Aug 2006 02:58:00 PM |
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Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Father Amorth said: "Of course the Devil exists and he can not only possess
a single person but also groups and entire populations.
"I am convinced that the Nazis were all possessed. All you have to do is
think about what Hitler - and Stalin did. Almost certainly they were
possessed by the Devil.
"You can tell by their behaviour and their actions, from the horrors they
committed and the atrocities that were committed on their orders. That's why
we need to defend society from demons."
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope
Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have
any effect.
Father Amorth said: "It's very rare that praying and attempting to carry out
an exorcism from distance works.
"Of course you can pray for someone from a distance but in this case it
would not have any effect.
"One of the key requirements for an exorcism is to be present in front of
the possessed person and that person also has to be consenting and willing.
"Therefore trying to carry out an exorcism on someone who is not present, or
consenting and willing would prove very difficult.
"However I have no doubt that Hitler was possessed and so it does not
surprise me that Pope Pius XII tried a long distance exorcism."
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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31 Aug 2006 06:31:39 PM |
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"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_
id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
The vatican were supporters of Hitler who was a catholic. Mind you even
protestant Luther would have been proud of him.
http://tinyurl.com/5psu8
Klazmon
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31 Aug 2006 11:21:02 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com:
<SNIP>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_
id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
The vatican were supporters of Hitler who was a catholic. Mind you even
protestant Luther would have been proud of him.
Mainly because he was against Communism
it being a major threat to the priesthood
Nobody wants to be out of a job
http://tinyurl.com/5psu8
Klazmon
<SNIP>
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31 Aug 2006 06:07:41 PM |
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"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
Ah, so it wasn't Darwin after all.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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31 Aug 2006 11:16:01 PM |
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"Mr. Young" wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
Not believing in gods 'or devils' I fail to see how; my dear namesake
Devils were invented no doubt by Stone Age man as he quivered in his cave of a night in the dark listening
to the noises of the forest - his gods came later ostensibly to chase those devils away. Strange things
homo sapiens
That first god REALLY started something !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Father Amorth said: "Of course the Devil exists and he can not only possess
a single person but also groups and entire populations.
"I am convinced that the Nazis were all possessed. All you have to do is
think about what Hitler - and Stalin did. Almost certainly they were
possessed by the Devil.
"You can tell by their behaviour and their actions, from the horrors they
committed and the atrocities that were committed on their orders. That's why
we need to defend society from demons."
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope
Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have
any effect.
Father Amorth said: "It's very rare that praying and attempting to carry out
an exorcism from distance works.
"Of course you can pray for someone from a distance but in this case it
would not have any effect.
"One of the key requirements for an exorcism is to be present in front of
the possessed person and that person also has to be consenting and willing.
"Therefore trying to carry out an exorcism on someone who is not present, or
consenting and willing would prove very difficult.
"However I have no doubt that Hitler was possessed and so it does not
surprise me that Pope Pius XII tried a long distance exorcism."
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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<p>"Mr. Young" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought
processing of some our
<br>less famous practicing atheists.</blockquote>
Not believing in gods 'or devils' I fail to see how; my dear namesake
<p>Devils were invented no doubt by Stone Age man as he quivered in his
cave of a night in the dark listening to the noises of the forest - his
gods came later ostensibly to chase those devils away. Strange things
homo sapiens
<p><i>That first god REALLY started something !</i>
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<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5</a>
<p>Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil,
the
<br>Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
<p>Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
<br>made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
<p>Father Amorth said: "Of course the Devil exists and he can not only
possess
<br>a single person but also groups and entire populations.
<p>"I am convinced that the Nazis were all possessed. All you have to do
is
<br>think about what Hitler - and Stalin did. Almost certainly they were
<br>possessed by the Devil.
<p>"You can tell by their behaviour and their actions, from the horrors
they
<br>committed and the atrocities that were committed on their orders. That's
why
<br>we need to defend society from demons."
<p>According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff
Pope
<br>Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed
to have
<br>any effect.
<p>Father Amorth said: "It's very rare that praying and attempting to carry
out
<br>an exorcism from distance works.
<p>"Of course you can pray for someone from a distance but in this case
it
<br>would not have any effect.
<p>"One of the key requirements for an exorcism is to be present in front
of
<br>the possessed person and that person also has to be consenting and
willing.
<p>"Therefore trying to carry out an exorcism on someone who is not present,
or
<br>consenting and willing would prove very difficult.
<p>"However I have no doubt that Hitler was possessed and so it does not
<br>surprise me that Pope Pius XII tried a long distance exorcism."
<p>--
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<p>Mr. J Yöung
<br>youngopinions@aol.com</blockquote>
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| User: "LC" |
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31 Aug 2006 03:39:05 PM |
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Hitler-worshipping nutbar "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
I can see why the Hitler Youth team in Vatican City would want to attempt to
lie their way out of that Hitler connection.
Pity the facts get in the way of their argument, hmmm?:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"~ Adolph Hitler
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."~ Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator.
By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."~ Adolph Hitler
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will
of the Almighty Creator."~ Adolph Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter."~ Adolf hitler
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Sheesh!
It's a "miracle" that some folks still buy into this sheep herder insanity.
LC~ J Yo never lets facts get in the way of his trolls.
"Those filthy bastards killed Christ.Now they want to
destroy the entire middle east." ~ "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
letting one of his sockpuppets speak his mind.
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403160718.2241d13a@posting.google.com>
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01 Sep 2006 01:03:18 PM |
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LC wrote:
Hitler-worshipping nutbar "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
I can see why the Hitler Youth team in Vatican City would want to attempt to
lie their way out of that Hitler connection.
Pity the facts get in the way of their argument, hmmm?:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"~ Adolph Hitler
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."~ Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator.
By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."~ Adolph Hitler
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will
of the Almighty Creator."~ Adolph Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter."~ Adolf hitler
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Sheesh!
It's a "miracle" that some folks still buy into this sheep herder insanity.
What's really frightening is that G. W. Bush has made similiar
statements...
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01 Sep 2006 02:13:26 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157133798.672344.33870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
LC wrote:
Hitler-worshipping nutbar "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
I can see why the Hitler Youth team in Vatican City would want to attempt
to lie their way out of that Hitler connection.
Pity the facts get in the way of their argument, hmmm?:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"~ Adolph Hitler
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."~ Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator.
By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."~ Adolph
Hitler
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will
of the Almighty Creator."~ Adolph Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter."~ Adolf hitler
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of
demons' made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Sheesh!
It's a "miracle" that some folks still buy into this sheep herder
insanity.
What's really frightening is that G. W. Bush has made similiar
statements...
After six years of the Worst President Ever, nothing surprises me anymore...
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31 Aug 2006 06:30:02 PM |
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Yawn, and Hitler and the Nazi's aren't known for having a huge propaganda
machine. lol. You believe everything he said? What a retard you are.
His dinner conversations are more revealing.
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:ed7hdd01415@enews3.newsguy.com...
Hitler-worshipping nutbar "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
I can see why the Hitler Youth team in Vatican City would want to attempt
to
lie their way out of that Hitler connection.
Pity the facts get in the way of their argument, hmmm?:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"~ Adolph Hitler
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."~ Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator.
By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."~ Adolph Hitler
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will
of the Almighty Creator."~ Adolph Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter."~ Adolf hitler
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Sheesh!
It's a "miracle" that some folks still buy into this sheep herder
insanity.
LC~ J Yo never lets facts get in the way of his trolls.
"Those filthy bastards killed Christ.Now they want to
destroy the entire middle east." ~ "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
letting one of his sockpuppets speak his mind.
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403160718.2241d13a@posting.google.com>
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| User: "LC" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:47:16 PM |
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"Fred Liken" <nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote in message
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Yawn, and Hitler and the Nazi's aren't known for having a huge propaganda
machine. lol.
<yawn>
And the RCC *certainly* aren't known for their "huge propaganda machine.
LOL back at ya.
You believe everything he said?
Feel free to debunk those quotes.
What a retard you are.
Says the top-posting Hitler apologist lacking an argument.
His dinner conversations are more revealing.
Really?
So...when you had dinner with der Fuhrer, who said grace?
Sheesh!
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:ed7hdd01415@enews3.newsguy.com...
Hitler-worshipping nutbar "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
I can see why the Hitler Youth team in Vatican City would want to attempt
to lie their way out of that Hitler connection.
Pity the facts get in the way of their argument, hmmm?:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"~ Adolph Hitler
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."~ Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator.
By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."~ Adolph
Hitler
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will
of the Almighty Creator."~ Adolph Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter."~ Adolf hitler
Father Gabriele Amorth who is Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons'
made his comments during an interview with Vatican Radio.
Sheesh!
It's a "miracle" that some folks still buy into this sheep herder
insanity.
LC~ J Yo never lets facts get in the way of his trolls.
"Those filthy bastards killed Christ.Now they want to
destroy the entire middle east." ~ "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
letting one of his sockpuppets speak his mind.
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403160718.2241d13a@posting.google.com>
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| User: "Hatter" |
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01 Sep 2006 11:14:36 AM |
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LC wrote:
"Fred Liken" <nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote in message
news:44f7708f$2$33431$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
Yawn, and Hitler and the Nazi's aren't known for having a huge propaganda
machine. lol.
<yawn>
And the RCC *certainly* aren't known for their "huge propaganda machine.
LOL back at ya.
You believe everything he said?
Feel free to debunk those quotes.
What a retard you are.
Says the top-posting Hitler apologist lacking an argument.
His dinner conversations are more revealing.
Really?
So...when you had dinner with der Fuhrer, who said grace?
Sheesh!
Funny, though some standards of proof. Dinner conversations are hearsay
and the quotes you use are documented.
Although as to the question as to AH's Christianity, it seems he was a
nominal one...only trotting it out when it seemed convenient, like a
lot of people in power. However, there is no...I do mean NO documented
proof as him being atheist.
I still find the relevant issue is the it was the power of Christianity
on the masses that got people to go along with the victimization and
later genocide of the Jews. If it wasn't for the Christian prejudices
of the masses, old Adolf would just be a frustrated loner yelling
speeches and handing out hate flyers on some streetcorner.
Hatter
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| User: "LC" |
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01 Sep 2006 11:40:26 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157127276.368358.230210@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
LC wrote:
"Fred Liken" <nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote in message
news:44f7708f$2$33431$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
Yawn, and Hitler and the Nazi's aren't known for having a huge
propaganda
machine. lol.
<yawn>
And the RCC *certainly* aren't known for their "huge propaganda machine.
LOL back at ya.
You believe everything he said?
Feel free to debunk those quotes.
What a retard you are.
Says the top-posting Hitler apologist lacking an argument.
His dinner conversations are more revealing.
Really?
So...when you had dinner with der Fuhrer, who said grace?
Sheesh!
Funny, though some standards of proof. Dinner conversations are hearsay
and the quotes you use are documented.
Seems "Fred" is little more than a hit and run troll.
Although as to the question as to AH's Christianity, it seems he was a
nominal one...only trotting it out when it seemed convenient, like a
lot of people in power.
"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and
his own are the same."~ Stendhal
However, there is no...I do mean NO documented
proof as him being atheist.
That's never stopped the fundy nutbars from trotting the argument out.
I still find the relevant issue is the it was the power of Christianity
on the masses that got people to go along with the victimization and
later genocide of the Jews. If it wasn't for the Christian prejudices
of the masses, old Adolf would just be a frustrated loner yelling
speeches and handing out hate flyers on some streetcorner.
Hatter
Exactly.
Well stated.
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01 Sep 2006 11:16:32 AM |
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Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com:
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil,
the Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
He's right you know............
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
That would be Hotel no tell charlie?
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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01 Sep 2006 02:22:25 PM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com:
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil,
the Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
He's right you know............
According to?
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
That would be Hotel no tell charlie?
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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01 Sep 2006 11:16:02 PM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com:
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil,
the Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
He's right you know............
Prove it
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
That would be Hotel no tell charlie?
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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Hotel Charlie One wrote:
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
My dear fellow,
Would it be alt.politics.homosexuality if it didn't feature assholes?
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Hotel Charlie One" |
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02 Sep 2006 06:18:12 AM |
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote in news:5B5Kg.76118
$u11.28652@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
My dear fellow,
Would it be alt.politics.homosexuality if it didn't feature assholes?
That's true with one differentiation. Homosexuals have an ***** and
use an ***** but Mr. Young *is* an *****.
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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02 Sep 2006 06:24:08 AM |
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In News Xns98322BC6EBF8cipciphc1@199.45.49.11,, Hotel Charlie One at
hotel_charlie_one@yahoo.com, typed this:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote in news:5B5Kg.76118
$u11.28652@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
And homosexuals are not really people, say Jon Young oops Mr. Young,
a noted ***** in this newsgroup.
My dear fellow,
Would it be alt.politics.homosexuality if it didn't feature assholes?
That's true with one differentiation. Homosexuals have an ***** and
use an ***** but Mr. Young *is* an *****.
Judging from his posts, an extremely used *****.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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31 Aug 2006 06:35:52 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Mr. Young poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist
< chuckle! >
And there we have the proof that the Vatican is actually insane.
Regards,
Josef
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the
absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
-- Henry Havelock Ellis
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 11:23:01 PM |
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Josef Balluch wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, Mr. Young poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist
< chuckle! >
And there we have the proof that the Vatican is actually insane.
Each time The Pope appeares wearing his outlandish regalia
I increasingly get the same feeling.
I have to remind myselt that 'it is now the year 2006'
Regards,
Josef
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the
absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
-- Henry Havelock Ellis
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
01 Sep 2006 12:40:18 AM |
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In article <o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=40
2602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope
Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have
any effect.
No effect? Why how could that be?
Laughable.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Sean C" |
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01 Sep 2006 01:06:26 AM |
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In article <o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Mr. Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=40
2602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
But their followers were possessed by Christianity. Look at how that
turned out.
--Sean C
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 04:51:26 PM |
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Mr. Young schrieb:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
Is this the best you can do, J fucking Young? Stalin, really?
How about something racist, homophobic, sexist, intolerant?
You're so disappointing ...
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 09:06:10 PM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope
Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have
any effect.
Father Amorth said: "It's very rare that praying and attempting to carry out
an exorcism from distance works.
"With God, all things are possible." So, since it didn't work, that must
mean that it was not conducted with the presence of God.
Hmm... Satan gets around.
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Tinny Ray" |
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31 Aug 2006 09:33:15 PM |
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A lot of fascinating research examines the history of demonic possesion
and exorcism. Much of the work examines the practices of exorcists.
Most commentary is superficial, with very little critical analysis of
the danger to human life.
http://rexcurry.net/exorcism-possession-exorcist-demons.html
According to the Vatican's chief exorcist, the devil possessed the
leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party and the leader
of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Father Gabriele Amorth,
Pope Benedict XVI's 'caster out of demons,' made those comments during
an interview with Vatican Radio.
Father Amorth's reasoning indicates the worst case of demonic
possession in the history of the earth was the socialist Wholecaust (of
which the Holocaust was a part): 65 million slaughtered under the Union
of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR); 49 million under the Peoples'
Republic of China (PRC); 21 million under the National Socialist German
Workers' Party (NSGWP). It was the worst loss of life ever.
Their satanic leaders combined religion with socialism, and they
worshipped government. In 1939 the National Socialist German Workers'
Party and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joined as allies to
invade Poland in a pact to divide up Europe.
Armageddon, the apocalypse, and the Great Wars against humanity were
visible in their work. After WWII, Stalin and Mao went on to kill even
more people. Socialism is hades.
http://rexcurry.net/wholecaust-museum.html
Father Amorth said: "Of course the Devil exists and he can not only
possess a single person but also groups and entire populations." He
added that he is convinced that members of the National Socialist
German Workers' Party were all possessed. "All you have to do is think
about they did [the leader of the German National Socialism and of
Soviet Socialism]. Almost certainly they were possessed by the Devil."
According to secret Vatican documents recently released, wartime
pontiff Pope Pius XII attempted an unsuccessful "long distance"
exorcism of the leader of the German National Socialists.
Said Father Amorth, "I have no doubt that [the German Socialist leader]
was possessed and so it does not surprise me that Pope Pius XII tried a
long distance exorcism."
Father Amorth is president of the International Association of
Exorcists. Father Amorth is said to have carried out more than 30,000
exorcisms in his career and his favourite film is, according to Italian
newspapers, The Exorcist.
Most people do not know that a deformed cross was worshiped as the
notorious symbol of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The
group called their symbol the Hakenkreuz, not the swastika. Hakenkreuz
means "hooked cross." It is one of the biggest cover-ups in history.
In the USA the hooked cross was a common symbol and was referred to as
a cross (armed cross, twisted cross, crooked cross, hooked cross)
before "swastika" became dominant. The eventual dominance of "swastika"
occurred in part to distance the cross from the Christian Cross.
Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, the noted cryptographer
and symbologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets") discovered
that it was also used sometimes by German National Socialists to
represent "S" letters for their "socialism." With a 45 degree turn of
his Hakenkreuz, the leader of German National Socialists used the
"swastika flag" to combine the cross with collectivism, merge church
and state, mesh religion and socialism, and mandate the worship of
government. He altered his own signature to use the same symbolism and
similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
Support for Dr. Curry's work comes from other authors who believe the
Holocaust under the National Socialist German Workers Party was a
demonic Inquisition (including religious persecution) undertaken by the
leader of German National Socialism.
In the 1930's, religious people were persecuted for refusing to give
the straight-arm salute to the national flag. That persecution occurred
in the USA (to the stars and stripes) and in Germany (to the swastika
flag) at the same time. Today, most people in the USA were educated in
socialist schools (government schools) so they are ignorant of the fact
that it was happening in both Germany and the USA.
http://rexcurry.net/jehovahs-witnesses-fight-socialism-in-USA.html
Religious children and children of various races and backgrounds were
required by law to perform the straight-arm salute in government
schools in robotic chanting every morning at the ring of a government
bell (just as it is done today but with a different gesture). Many
people considered the raised-arm salute to the national flag to be
sacrilegious worship of government and socialism. Religious people had
good reasons to consider the pledge / salute to be sacrilegious, in
that Germans used the ritual toward their Hakenkreuz symbol, the
"hooked cross."
Dr. Rex Curry showed that the straight-arm salute to the national flag
originated in the USA's Pledge of Allegiance, as written by a
socialist. The USA used the straight arm salute to the national flag
for three decades before German National Socialists started doing the
same thing.
The salute was created by Francis Bellamy, a minister who was cast out
because he used the pulpit to push his socialist dogma in sermons on
themes like "Jesus the Socialist."
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
Francis was cousin and cohort to Edward Bellamy, author of "Looking
Backward" an international bestseller that was known as the "Bible of
National Socialism." Edward also authored "The Religion of Solidarity"
and other articles and books with similar ideas.
Both Bellamys worked together to promote socialism and they wanted the
government to take over all schools to spread their dogma. Both
Bellamys descended from a long line of ancestors who touted similar
dogma for generations. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter1a1i.html
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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31 Aug 2006 09:15:48 PM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
And the Vatican has never been wrong, eh?
--Billy
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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01 Sep 2006 12:57:13 PM |
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William T. Goat wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of
some our less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil,
the Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
And the Vatican has never been wrong, eh?
--Billy
You'd think a loving, caring, all powerful god would make rules against
such things.
Or he could take over the bodies of Hitler's henchmen who would do good and
nobody would follow Hitler.
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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31 Aug 2006 04:39:00 PM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
Why do you people always have to drag ridiculous superstition into
situations that are easily explained through psychology?
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope
Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have
any effect.
Of course it didn't. Everyone knows that in order to perform an
excorcism the person has to be in the same room. How else are you going
to beat them to death?
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 03:30:31 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0400, "Mr. Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
<o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com>:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
What does atheism have to do with Hitler? He was not an atheist, as
anybody with a modicum of intelligence already knows.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 03:45:41 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:30:31 -0400, IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0400, "Mr. Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
<o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com>:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
What does atheism have to do with Hitler? He was not an atheist, as
anybody with a modicum of intelligence already knows.
Yes, but the 'modicum of intelligence' part effectively excludes
Young.
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 04:09:24 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:45:41 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote
in message <ibief29qd87nm20b9gfr82l1862a4ehb86@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:30:31 -0400, IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0400, "Mr. Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
<o5ydnZ_hcJkDomrZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com>:
Maybe this can help explain the actions and thought processing of some our
less famous practicing atheists.
What does atheism have to do with Hitler? He was not an atheist, as
anybody with a modicum of intelligence already knows.
Yes, but the 'modicum of intelligence' part effectively excludes
Young.
Well, one can always hope for an epiphany.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler and Stalin were possessed by the Devil, says Vatican exorcist |
31 Aug 2006 05:07:33 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0400, "Mr. Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Adolf Hitler and Russian leader Stalin were possessed by the Devil, the
Vatican's chief exorcist has claimed.
The Vatican says plenty of ridiculous things. What's your point?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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