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"Hitler Was a Christian" - (Repost) |
Hitler Was a Christian
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:
History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians
who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian
deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today's Church
leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of
Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult
worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on
those with out Jesus. However, from the earliest formation of the
Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler
expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers.
Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to
history books before they address their pews and chat rooms.
Considering that Christianity has thus far been incapable of
producing an unbiased, educated follower which speaks the truth, (I
haven't encountered any), I have been forced to dispel the myth by
writing this essay. It is not until I bring up his speeches, my
personal info on the Nazi regime and their tactics that a Christian
will begin to question what their clergy told them. (I am the
offspring of a German soldier. My Opa served under Hitler in WW2 and
my father was raised during the time of the Nazi regime. This is
important information to take into consideration for I am privy to
some info that most Americans do not know. It is common for American
media and education institutions to lie to their citizens concerning
Nazi Germany.) So, in presenting this information I must break it
into four parts: 1) Facts about Hitler and his involvement with the
Church. 2) How the Church was the catalyst for anti- Semitism. 3)
Facts concerning how the Nazi regime drilled these beliefs into
Germanic society. 4) Quotes Hitler made which prove he had a disdain
for atheism/occultism, upheld his Christian faith, and hated Jews due
to his Christianity.
Hitler's involvement with the Church:
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On
his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was
carved with the monastery's coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a "soldier of Christ." His most
ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his
love for the church and clergy: "I had excellent opportunity to
intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church
festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the
village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most
desirable ideal." -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church.
Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and "avenging for God" in
attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the
pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn
they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler
wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an
excerpt: "The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the
new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state
by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and
unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is
hostile to religion is a lie." Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to
the Nazi Party
g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society
and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and
preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic
teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with
Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken
On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday. The
celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a
tradition.
Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send "warmest
congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the
dioceses in Germany with "fervent prayers which the Catholics of
Germany are sending to heaven on their altars." (If you would like to
know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend
you get a book titled: Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII,
by John Cornwell)
h) Due to Hitler's involvement with the Church he began enacting
doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a
death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in
schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised
that Germany would implement its teachings: "The National Socialist
State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be
its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in
their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines
(Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views
and the exigencies of the State of today." Adolf Hitler, on 26 June
1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action
against the new pagan propaganda "Providence has caused me to be
Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church." -Adolf
Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the
Catholic Church to National Socialism
How Christianity was the catalyst of the Holocaust:
Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Austria
and Germany were majorly Christian during his time and they held the
belief that Jews were an inferior status to Aryan Christians. The
Christians blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus. Jewish hatred
did not actually spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of
Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for
hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself,
held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book,
"On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish
hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War 2. Hitler expressed a
great admiration for Martin Luther constantly quoting his works and
beliefs.
Now, you must remember before Hitler rose to Chancellor of Germany the
country was in a deep economic depression due to the Versailles
treaty. The Versailles treaty demanded that Germans made financial
reparations for the previous war and Germany simply was not self
sufficient enough in order to pay the debt. Hitler was the leader that
raised Germany out of the depression and brought them back to a world
recognized power. Due to his annulment of the financial woes of the
Germanic people he became their redeemer and they anointed him as the
leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933. This placed him
in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates
their political and religious agendas. It united all denominations,
mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in
a national Christianity.
How the Nazi Regime converted the people:
a) In the 1920s, Hitler's German Workers' Party (pre Nazi term)
adopted a "Programme" with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a
constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly
demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a
"positive" Christianity: "We demand liberty for all religious
denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and
do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German
race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does
not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular
confession..."
b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda
to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all
people need faith and religious education: "By helping to raise man
above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to
the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from
present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic
principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by
abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an
equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of
their existence." Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that
Christianity was taught.
d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in
textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until
1961.
e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to
forcibly convert all its military.
f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious
symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on
military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I
believe my Opa had one) which reads "Gott Mit Uns". For those of you
who do not speak German it is translated as "God With Us".
g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy
water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on
a maneuver.
h) The Nazis created a secret service called the "SS Reich" that would
act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was
suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but
CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.
Quotes from Hitler:
Hitler's speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his
faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an
embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their
faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views. The following
words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and
reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:
"National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for
worship; it is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon
racial principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the
care and leadership of a people defined by a common
blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk
with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal
into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but
something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with
us. At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but
clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But
since we set as the central point of this perception and of this
profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the
future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a
divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of
a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord Our
worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that
reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is the
unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as
they are known to us men." -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6
Sept.1938. [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in
pagan cult mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand
against cults.]
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out." -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
[This statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as
favoring atheism. Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people
worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy.
The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not
accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be
noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their
non-belief in Christ.]
Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack
the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at
last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for
the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand
years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever
before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood
upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be
cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting
rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I
have also a duty to my own people." Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12
April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April
1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press,
1942)
"Christianity could not content itself with building up its own
altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the
heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its
apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute
presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here
that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which
Christianity was founded.)
"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil
assumes the living shape of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The
idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs
based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers
after him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)
"With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks
in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus
stealing her from her people." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common
in war for one race to rape another so that they can "defile" the race
and assimilate their own. Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)
"The best characterization is provided by the product of this
religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,
and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature
two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new
doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward
the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive
from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then
as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business
existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our
present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish
votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with
atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation." Adolf
Hitler (Mein Kampf)
" the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his
expulsion." -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (See Genesis Chapter 3 where
humankind is cast from Eden for their sins. Hitler compares this to
the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against Christ.)
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I
am fighting for the work of the Lord." Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
"The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement]
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge." Adolf
Hitler Mein Kampf (This quote is very interesting for it disperses the
idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He
states quite clearly that he has a problem with Jews for their belief
not race. That is why many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of
their Aryan nationality.)
"Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very
first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always
and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence
which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering
and uncertain." Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (Here Hitler is admitting
that his war against the Jews were so successful because of his strong
Christian Spirituality.)
Quotes from Other Nazis about Hitler and Religion:
"Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the
party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church
because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered
his chief associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members
of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he
said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he
remained in the church until his suicide." (Inside the Third Reich by
Albert Speer page 95-96)
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Bullock, Hitler&Stalin 1993 ISBN 0-679-72994-1
p7 Like Stalin, he served as a choirboy.. Alois Hitler as not a
sympathetic figure. He was authoritarian and selfish, showing little concern
for the feelings of his younger wife and little understanding of his children
p9 Hitler's great hero was Richard Wagner.. source of theatricality and
epic scale of his own political style
p18 [Hitler] By the autumn of 1909, however, his funds had run out; he
left his room without paying the rent he owned, and took to sleeping out on
park benches, even in doorways
p37 If Stalin's pieces contained little that was original, Lenin was
impressed by the combination of their down-to-earth tone with unswerving
devotion to the Bolshevik line
p44 no doubt that Hitler was a good soldier.. infuriating his fellow
soldiers by continuing to "spout" like a recruiting poster
p73 difficulty in establishing human relationships with individuals, his
rapport with a mass audience was exceptional.. impression of spontaneity..
never swept away by the enthusiasm he elicited.. Hitler dangerous was this
combination of fanaticism and calculation
p77 Hitler and Lenin shared an insistence on the importance of winning the
support of the masses with an equal insistence on the inability of the masses
to organize themselves
p80 Hitler, still ill at ease on social occasions, was clever enough to
exploit his own awkwardness, deliberately behaving in exaggerated fashion,
arriving late and leaving early
p103 Any government that tried to take the [Stolypin reformed] land back
from them in order to collectivize agriculture would meet determined
resistance.. If Lenin reluctantly accepted the postponement of the
collectivization of agriculture, he was determined not to allow free trade in
grain.. Resistance was widespread. THe peasants hid their stocks and cut
production
p154 Hitler's ideology, however crude and unconvincing to those who did
not share it, provided him with a view of the [Hegelian] historical process
that gave him the same assurance as Marxism gave to Communist leaders. Like
Lenin and Stalin, he treated policies and tactics as matters, not of
principle, but of expediency, the object of which was to gain support and win
power
p209 Stalin set up the goal of overtaking the capitalist nations and
putting an end to "the age-old backwardness of our country." Socialism was no
longer the product of capitalism, as Marx had thought, but an alternative
designed to accelerate the development of those parts of the world left
behind by the industrial progress of the West
p220 Columbia historian Fritz Stern has suggested that the special
attraction that Hitler had for German Protestants, not least Protestant
pastors, owed much to the "silent secularization" of Protestantism during the
previous centruy in which the Church became identified with the fate of the
nation and the monarchy.. Nietzchean irrationalism, heroic man in place of
economic man
p285 forced collectivization.. Stalin himself later told Churchill that it
had been as hard a war as that against the Nazis and cost ten million lives
[WSC WW2 IV 1951 pp447-8]
p339 [Hitler] refusal to be bound by legal convention and his courage in
acting in accord with natural justice [sitn eth?]
p343 belief that the two men shared, that they were chosen to play such a
role, and therefore exempt from the ordinary canons of human conduct..
narcissistic
p367 Both men took special pains to conceal, as well as to exploit, their
personalities. Both owed a great dea of their success as politicians to their
ability to disguise, from allies as well as opponents, their thoughts and
their intentions
p375 Hitler, who was an aggressive vegetarian and teetotaller, forbade
smoking and kept a simple table
p381 Stalin had mocked religious belief since his days in the Tiflis
seminary. Hitler had been brought up as a Catholic and was impressed by the
organization and power of the Church.. had no time at all for its teaching,
regarding it as a religion fit only for slaves
p409 He insisted to Otto Wegener and others with whom he talked privately
before coming to power: "We alone can and must think clearly about racial
questions. For us these questions are a key and a signpost. But for the
public at large they are poison" [1985 p213]
p414 Hitler has said in Mein_Kampf [1939 p110] "The art of leadership
consists in concentrating the attention of the people on a single
adversary. making different opponents appear as if they belonged to the same
category"
p503 fear of informers, which made everyone afraid to speak, producing
that atomization of society that Aristotle long ago saw as one of the
safeguards of tyranny " the creation of mistrust, for a tyrant is not
overthrown until men begin to have confidence in one another" [Pol V ii]
p525 "The forty-eight hours after the march into the Rhineland were the
most nerve-racking in my life. If the French had then marched into the
Rhineland we would have had to withdraw with o ur tails between our legs, for
the militray forces at our disposal would have been wholly inadequate for
even a modearte resistance" [Paul Schmidt 1949 p320]
p536 Franco victory was not desirable.. "Our interest lay in a
continuation of the war and in keeping up the tension in the Mediterranean."
Both Hitler and Stalin valued the diversionary effect
p554 Unlike Stalin, Hitler did not attempt to carry out a complete purge
of the High Command. He was later to regret
p567 psychological preparation of the German people for war.. "business
of the political leadership to await or bring about the suitable moment"
p575 "little tricks of bluff and bluster".. Without firing a shot Germany
had already come close to nullifying the results for which the Western powers
had fought the World War
p613 This was too much for Stalin. After six years of pouring buckets of
filth over each other's heads, he said, they could not expect their peoples
to believe that all was forgotten and forgiven. Public opoinion in Russia,
and no doubt in Germany, too, would have to be prepared slowly for the change
p617 "I accept the British Empire and I am ready to pledge myself
personally to its continued existence and to commit the power of the German
Reich to this" [doc germ frn pol 18-45 d vii 265]
p634 Stalin was the more reserved, Hitler more flamboyant and changeable
in mood; Stalin operated in the shadows, Hitler perfomed best in the
limelight. Stalin was more the calculator, Hitler the gambler
p647 [Poland, Hilter] "Upper classes" in practise meant officers,
officials, judges, landowners, teachers, intllectuals, priests - anyone with
the capacity for leadership. Once arrested they were herded into camps were
thousands were exeuted
p659 The luck that Hitler believed would always respond to a bold enough
bid did not desert him
p696 [Hitler 11July41] "Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child.
Both are inventions of the Jew"
p697 Substitute "class" for "race," the Communist party exercising
dictatorship in the name of the proletariat for a racial elite; "the
individual exists only for the state" instead of "only for the Volk"; "agents
of history" for "agents of Providence" - and Stalin would have found little
to disagree with. Together they represent the twentieth century's most
formidable examples of those simplificateurs_terribles whom the nineteenth
century historian Jakob Burckhardt foresaw as characteristic of the century
to follow
p707 regent, Prince Paul, was pro-British, but was impressed by the fall
of France and by the offer of Salonika.. Simovic, rebelled
p708 Greece was to be occupied, Yugoslavia destroyed
p738 Rosenberg saw "Muscovy" as the heart of "Russian-Mongol backwardness"
which under the tsarist and Soviet regimes alike had supressed and forced a
forced Russification on the national identities of Ukrainians and Estonians
[ie Rosenberg's], Georgians and Tartars.. Rosenberg's plans for partitioning
the Soviet Union varied, but common to all of them was the creation of a
Ukrainian state and the formation of Baltic and Caucasian federations
p759 As Himmler told his SS commanders: [Posen 4Oct43] "This is a page in
our history which has never been written and is never to be written.. We had
the moral right, we had the duty to destroy this people which wanted to
destroy us".. selected those fit enough to be worked to death
p761 miscalculation. Always speaking of the United States with contempt as
another degenerate democracy, "a society corrupted by Jews and niggers"
p763 Neither Hitler nor Stalin was content with assuming strategic
direction of the war; they constantly intervened in operations as well
p772 The fact that Hitler's winter success had been accomplished by an act
of will in defiance of the professional advice of his generals had
strengthened his sence of mission
p776 Hitler resisted, as strongly as Stalin had, intelligence reports that
called into question the picture he had formed
p817 Stalin proposed the liquidation of the 50,000 German officers..
Elliott Roosevelt, FDRs son, made a speech expressing enthusiasm, Churchill
walked out of the room in disgust. He was quickly followed by Stalin, who put
both hands on his shoulders, assured him he had not been talking seriously,
and persuaded him to return [WSC WW2 V p330]
p837 "After my miraculous escape from death today I am more than ever
convinced that it is my fate to bring our common enterprise to a successful
conclusion." Nodding his head, mussolini could only agree: "After what I have
seen here, I am absolutely of your opinion. This was a sign from heaven."
p855 After long hesitation, the three major Allies had agreed at Tehran to
accept Tito's National Liberation Army, not General Drazha Mihailovic's Royal
Yugoslav Army, as the effective resistance movement. But they did not accept
the declaration of the Ant-Fascist Council held at Jajce in October 1943
refusing to acknowledge the king
p898 silence about nuclear fission meant that an American project was
under way.. reports passed secretly to him by the physicist Klaus Fuchs
working at Los Alamos
p908 Of the 5.7 million Soviet prisoners.. four million had died.. force
was used to send them back to Russia.. Twenty percent were sentenced to death
of twenty-five years in camps
p927 When Djilas tried to explain, Stalin would not let him finish,
declaring, "We have no special interest in Albania. We agree to Yugoslavia
swallowing Albania."
p943 Were the Russians really prepared to give up a Communist-controlled
East Germany for the promise of neutrality by a reunited country?.. It would
be characteristic of Stalin not to have made up his mind how far hewas
prepared to go until he had tried out the strength and weaknesses of the
other parties' positions around the negotiating table
p956 Mikoyan recalls Stalin telling Beria, "I won't give you Zhukov. I
know him, he is not a traitor."
p973 The fact that they were underestimated by their rivals was a psoitive
advantage to both men
p976-7 But the historical record shows that even in the worst
circumstances, not only in battle but in overcrowded prisons and camps, under
torture, in the Resistance, and in the face of certain death, there was a
handful - drawn from every nation - who showed to what heights men and women
can rise
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Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Reagan Mozart Pindus BioStrategist
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Yellary Clinton & Yellalot Spitzer: Nasty Together]
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Bullock, Hitler&Stalin 1993 ISBN 0-679-72994-1
Neither were Christians.
Both were socialists.
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"Vernon" <there@athere> wrote in message
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Bullock, Hitler&Stalin 1993 ISBN 0-679-72994-1
Neither were Christians.
Hitler claimed to be a christian. You don't get to decide if he was or not.
Both were socialists.
Whatever.
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In article <44e86f3f$0$23939$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>, "Vernon"
<there@athere> wrote:
<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote in message
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Bullock, Hitler&Stalin 1993 ISBN 0-679-72994-1
Neither were Christians.
Both were socialists.
Neither Hitler nor Mussolini nor Franco as leaders were socialists.
Mussolini rejected Socialism before 1922
The first targets of Nazism and Fascism were , Jews, socialists,
communists and social democrats and later homosexuals and the mentally
ill. These categories of peoples were frequently murdered or
"Euthanaised"
National Socialism is a name
But it is not in any way shape sense or form a type of socialism- rather
it is an extreme form of Fascism that takes the name of socialism as a
draw card for the unwary. Many fell for it!
In modern times you are included amongst the modern gullible
God help democracy when people forget!
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Jaspers Philos&World 1963 Regnery 0-89526-757-8
p147 But Luther, in his treatise "On the Jews and their Lies,"..
"synagogues be set afire.. driven them out of the country".. What Hitler has
done, Luther had counseled - except for the direct killing in gas chambers
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"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
YOUR KIND was what Hitler aimed at.
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Vernon"
<there@athere> in <44e7e198$0$23848$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>
wrote:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
YOUR KIND was what Hitler aimed at.
I am not sure what that means, but it seems nasty and ugly. Are you
saying that Anna is a Jew or that Hitler had the same targets you do?
Or something else that I missed?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion as a
convenient tool, not something to believe in. Hegelianism had annihilated
the religious basis of society and let loose such massive destruction. Part
of the problem of that day was fear of communism fueld nazism and fear of
nazism fueled communism; The two snakes grew based on fear of the other.
Both Hilter and Stalin (paranoid-narcissistic) saw themselves as makers of
history in place of deity. Ultimately the biggest killer in human history is
idealism. Idealists think they can remake everything to make it perfect. But
ideas are approximations of the human yet humans are approximation of the
divine. Humans are more perfect than their ideas. Trying to force the more
perfect to match the less perfect approximation can only be tragic. Worship
of man-made ideas, like man-made idols, is ideolatry, idolatry. Better to
worship your fellow human being next to you than some ideas.
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20 Aug 2006 09:15:51 AM |
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion as
a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
He was NOT a CHRISTIAN.
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"Vernon" <there@athere> wrote in message
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion as
a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
He was NOT a CHRISTIAN.
HE said he was.
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Resident Witchypoo
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25 Aug 2006 11:59:47 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"Vernon" <there@athere> wrote in message
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion
as
a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
He was NOT a CHRISTIAN.
HE said he was.
Of course, Hitler is incapable of lying. He could never, never lie.
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Resident Witchypoo
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25 Aug 2006 12:24:19 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:59:47 -0400, "DanWood" <drwood@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"Vernon" <there@athere> wrote in message
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<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote in message
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion
as
a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
He was NOT a CHRISTIAN.
HE said he was.
Of course, Hitler is incapable of lying. He could never, never lie.
So on your planet he was lying about being Christian? What colour is
the sky there?
The binary thinker can't grasp the fact that by his lights, and those
of his countrymen he was one.
But in any case, whether or not he was lying, the good Catholics and
Lutherans of Germany accepted his Christian motivation and
justification for his actions. You know, when he claimed to be doing
"the Lord's work".
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25 Aug 2006 01:14:23 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:59:47 -0400, DanWood <drwood@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"Vernon" <there@athere> wrote in message
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<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote in message
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Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion
as
a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
He was NOT a CHRISTIAN.
HE said he was.
Of course, Hitler is incapable of lying. He could never, never lie.
Irrelevent. Hitler professed his christianity and it was a motivation
for most every aspect of his life,
.I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all
people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany.. .I follow the path
assigned to me by Providence ... there is a God. And this God again has
blessed our efforts during the past 13 years.. (February 1940)
..The Ten Commandments are a code of living to which there.s no refutation.
These precepts correspond to irrefutable needs of the human soul..
..Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
work of the Lord.. And, .We want to fill our culture again with the
Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
literature, in the theater, and in the press.in short, we want to burn out
the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture
as a result of liberal excess.. (March 1936
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20 Aug 2006 07:39:09 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:55:56 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism ,
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com in
<ec911s$pie$5@reader2.panix.com> wrote:
Hitler was born Catholic in Catholic Austria; But he viewed religion as a
convenient tool, not something to believe in.
Hitler did not do it himself.
Hegelianism had annihilated
the religious basis of society and let loose such massive destruction.
So somehow Germany and Poland and Hungary stopped being religious in
1920 and started up again i 1945. (And we will ignore the Russian
Orthodox role in pogroms, that just messes up the argument.)
Part
of the problem of that day was fear of communism fueld nazism and fear of
nazism fueled communism; The two snakes grew based on fear of the other.
And when afraid the thing to do is kill the Jews. That the German
churches has preached this for years played a role, don't you think?
Both Hilter and Stalin (paranoid-narcissistic) saw themselves as makers of
history in place of deity. Ultimately the biggest killer in human history is
idealism. Idealists think they can remake everything to make it perfect. But
ideas are approximations of the human yet humans are approximation of the
divine. Humans are more perfect than their ideas. Trying to force the more
perfect to match the less perfect approximation can only be tragic. Worship
of man-made ideas, like man-made idols, is ideolatry, idolatry. Better to
worship your fellow human being next to you than some ideas.
You are working very hard to pretend Christians and Christianity was
not responsible. Is that what Jesus would do?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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20 Aug 2006 05:06:59 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:22:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Vernon"
<there@athere> in <44e7e198$0$23848$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>
wrote:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
YOUR KIND was what Hitler aimed at.
I am not sure what that means, but it seems nasty and ugly.
So you don't believe that what "Anna" said was nasty and ugly? She is
throwing a BLANKET condemnation on all people of faith!
And who liberated Europe? Christian America!
Are you
saying that Anna is a Jew or that Hitler had the same targets you do?
Or something else that I missed?
At least you asked him to clarify.
Good for you!
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:22:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this article
may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Vernon"
<there@athere> in <44e7e198$0$23848$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>
wrote:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
news:noffe2dppek903h2ej14ssmmlofp79j53b@4ax.com...
Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
YOUR KIND was what Hitler aimed at.
I am not sure what that means, but it seems nasty and ugly.
So you don't believe that what "Anna" said was nasty and ugly? She is
throwing a BLANKET condemnation on all people of faith!
No, she's using the xian grimorie and recorded history to demonstrate the
xianity in particular is not the placabo that xians of your nature
pretender is.
And who liberated Europe? Christian America!
There is no xian America, there is a United States which is predominantly
xian as far as their mythology is concerned, there's Canada is well South
America in Central America. It took the joint effort of awful lot of
people to liberate Europe, and your assumption that it could not have been
done without your [xian America] is simply yours.
Are you
saying that Anna is a Jew or that Hitler had the same targets you do?
Or something else that I missed?
At least you asked him to clarify.
Which, of course is more than you can do with anything akin to regularity.
And yet, you anticipate every body asking you what would you pretty please
tell them what they hell you're talking about this time. Can we say
hypocrite? Where you are concerned, you're posting history says yes we
can.
Good for you!
Do you think an adult nature approval, or better yet, do you think anyone
need your approval?
which wannabe this time jw, the one who is going to invoke his Ha Satan
given right to publicly prove that he is the idiot everyone thinks it is,
everyone that hadn't read him for any length time that is? or are you
under the false impression that just because you decide to go to a
courting, that people will forget what you really are and accept you for
what you are not?
walksalone who finds it unlikely that anyone could count up the number of
subjects that jw claims experience with or knowledge about, and
demonstrates no knowledge on that subject that is verifiable, especially
not by hand.
BIGOT, n. One who is obstinately and zealously attached to
an opinion that you do not entertain.
Devils dictionary
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20 Aug 2006 07:43:23 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:06:59 -0700, in alt.atheism , john w
<johnw<no>@yoo.how> in <ivcge255c87tfjk337gqvimlp2f2dd0avp@4ax.com>
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:22:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Vernon"
<there@athere> in <44e7e198$0$23848$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>
wrote:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
news:noffe2dppek903h2ej14ssmmlofp79j53b@4ax.com...
Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
YOUR KIND was what Hitler aimed at.
I am not sure what that means, but it seems nasty and ugly.
So you don't believe that what "Anna" said was nasty and ugly?
I responded to Anna and I do think that much of what she said was
nasty and ugly. But that line was single ugliest think in these
threads.
She is
throwing a BLANKET condemnation on all people of faith!
So? What does that have to do with saying Hitler was targeting people
like her? Do you think that Hitler aimed at bad people?
And who liberated Europe? Christian America!
Really? We waited several years until we were attacked. And I know
several Jews who participated in the liberation. You seem to be
playing the game that people act as Christians when they do what you
like and they are not Christians when they do things you don't like.
Are you
saying that Anna is a Jew or that Hitler had the same targets you do?
Or something else that I missed?
At least you asked him to clarify.
Good for you!
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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bothered
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And who liberated Europe? Christian America!
Poor Johny. It were mainly the atheist Ruskies.
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20 Aug 2006 12:10:05 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Vernon (there@athere) made the
light shine upon us with this:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
Will that be one pint of Guinness, or two?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
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22 Aug 2006 09:08:39 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Vernon (there@athere) made the
light shine upon us with this:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
news:noffe2dppek903h2ej14ssmmlofp79j53b@4ax.com...
Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
Will that be one pint of Guinness, or two?
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Go away with that pisswater and bring me a bottle of Lagavulin!
Hatter
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:10:05 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Vernon (there@athere) made the
light shine upon us with this:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
news:noffe2dppek903h2ej14ssmmlofp79j53b@4ax.com...
Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
Will that be one pint of Guinness, or two?
Well at least when YOU comment, you're constructive and
thought-provoking.
Two, and I'd also like a 'alf n 'alf!
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20 Aug 2006 05:13:07 AM |
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"john w @yoo.how>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:10:05 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Vernon (there@athere) made
the
light shine upon us with this:
"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
news:noffe2dppek903h2ej14ssmmlofp79j53b@4ax.com...
Hitler Was a Christian
Get an education.
You have no idea at all what a Christian is.
Will that be one pint of Guinness, or two?
Well at least when YOU comment, you're constructive and
thought-provoking.
Two, and I'd also like a 'alf n 'alf!
So, you lied when you claimed you didn't drink?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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"Ugly Anna" <Tbone415@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hitler Was a Christian
We know this - Please stop trying to start flame wars.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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24 Aug 2006 06:19:00 PM |
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Ugly Anna wrote:
Hitler Was a Christian
I don't know if Hitler called himself a Christian, but I do know that
Jesus said, "Salvation is from the Jews."
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25 Aug 2006 11:16:00 AM |
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"JFK" <jon123_71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156461540.880716.82720@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ugly Anna wrote:
Hitler Was a Christian
I don't know if Hitler called himself a Christian, but I do know that
Jesus said, "Salvation is from the Jews."
So what?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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27 Aug 2006 06:35:10 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"JFK" <jon123_71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156461540.880716.82720@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ugly Anna wrote:
Hitler Was a Christian
I don't know if Hitler called himself a Christian, but I do know that
Jesus said, "Salvation is from the Jews."
So what?
Well, if Hitler was a Christian that hated Jews when Christ said,
"Salvation is from the Jews," it is apparent that Hitler's mind and
kingdom were divided. We can learn from his mistakes. Rather than
hate the Jews, we should gleam their knowledge and practice Judeo
Christianity.
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28 Aug 2006 01:59:04 PM |
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"JFK" <jon123_71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156721710.853243.309900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"JFK" <jon123_71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156461540.880716.82720@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ugly Anna wrote:
Hitler Was a Christian
I don't know if Hitler called himself a Christian, but I do know that
Jesus said, "Salvation is from the Jews."
So what?
Well, if Hitler was a Christian that hated Jews when Christ said,
"Salvation is from the Jews," it is apparent that Hitler's mind and
kingdom were divided. We can learn from his mistakes. Rather than
hate the Jews, we should gleam their knowledge and practice Judeo
Christianity.
How about we not hate anyone and believe in reality, not mythology.
Works for me.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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Robibnikoff wrote:
How about we not hate anyone and believe in reality, not mythology.
Works for me.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
"Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather,
train yourself to be godly." (Paul, 1 Timothy 4:7)
"... the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Paul, Colossians
2:17)
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| User: "JFK" |
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| Title: Re: "Hitler Was a Christian" - (Repost) |
28 Aug 2006 07:31:07 AM |
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JFK wrote:
Rather than
hate the Jews, we should gleam their knowledge and practice Judeo
Christianity.
I meant "glean" not "gleam."
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "Hitler Was a Christian" - (Repost) |
28 Aug 2006 07:43:26 AM |
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On 28 Aug 2006 05:31:07 -0700, "JFK" <jon123_71@hotmail.com> wrote:
JFK wrote:
Rather than
hate the Jews, we should gleam their knowledge and practice Judeo
Christianity.
I meant "glean" not "gleam."
You still haven't explained why they were hated for nearly two
millennia for being Christ-killers - with Biblical justification.
Or why this was encouraged by the writings of both Catholic and
Protestant church fathers.
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