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Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
http://www.circleoften.org/homeland/enabling.html
Hitler's Enabling Act
On March 23, 1933, the newly elected members of the German Parliament (the
Reichstag) met in the Kroll Opera House in Berlin to consider passing
Hitler's Enabling Act. It was officially called the 'Law for Removing the
Distress of the People and the Reich.' If passed, it would effectively mean
the end of democracy in Germany and establish the legal dictatorship of
Adolf Hitler.
The 'distress' had been secretly caused by the Nazis themselves in order to
create a crisis atmosphere that would make the law seem necessary to
restore order. On February 27, 1933, they had burned the Reichstag
building, seat of the German government, causing panic and outrage. The
Nazis successfully blamed the fire on the Communists and claimed it marked
the beginning of a widespread uprising.
On the day of the vote, Nazi storm troopers gathered in a show of force
around the opera house chanting, "Full powers - or else! We want the bill -
or fire and murder!!" They also stood inside in the hallways, and even
lined the aisles where the vote would take place, glaring menacingly at
anyone who might oppose Hitler's will.
Just before the vote, Hitler made a speech to the Reichstag in which he
pledged to use restraint.
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are
essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases
in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is
in itself a limited one." - Hitler told the Reichstag.
He also promised an end to unemployment and pledged to promote peace with
France, Great Britain and the Soviet Union. But in order to do all this,
Hitler said, he first needed the Enabling Act.
A two thirds majority was needed, since the law would actually alter the
German constitution. Hitler needed 31 non-Nazi votes to pass it. He got
those votes from the Center Party after making a false promise to restore
some basic rights already taken away by decree.
However, one man arose amid the overwhelming might. Otto Wells, leader of
the Social Democrats stood up and spoke quietly to Hitler.
"We German Social Democrats pledge ourselves solemnly in this historic hour
to the principles of humanity and justice, of freedom and socialism. No
enabling act can give you power to destroy ideas which are eternal and
indestructible."
This enraged Hitler and he jumped up to respond.
"You are no longer needed! - The star of Germany will rise and yours will
sink! Your death knell has sounded!"
The vote was taken - 441 for, only 84, the Social Democrats, against. The
Nazis leapt to their feet clapping, stamping and shouting, then broke into
the Nazi anthem, the Hörst Wessel song.
They achieved what Hitler had wanted for years - to tear down the German
Democratic Republic legally and end democracy, thus paving the way for a
complete Nazi takeover of Germany.
From this day on, the Reichstag would be just a sounding board, a cheering
section for Hitler's pronouncements.
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
04 Mar 2004 09:25:40 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FredR@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG> wrote in message
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http://www.circleoften.org/homeland/enabling.html
Hitler's ...
Wow. That was a quick thread.
Alun Harford
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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05 Mar 2004 04:21:55 AM |
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"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FredR@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG> wrote in message
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http://www.circleoften.org/homeland/enabling.html
Hitler's ...
Wow. That was a quick thread.
OOps! Not quite as quick as I thought. Forgot the smiley
:-)
Alun Harford
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| User: "The Sophist" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
03 Mar 2004 10:44:18 PM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
On March 23, 1933, the newly elected members of the German Parliament (the
Reichstag) met in the Kroll Opera House in Berlin to consider passing
Hitler's Enabling Act. It was officially called the 'Law for Removing the
Distress of the People and the Reich.' If passed, it would effectively mean
the end of democracy in Germany and establish the legal dictatorship of
Adolf Hitler.
The 'distress' had been secretly caused by the Nazis themselves in order to
create a crisis atmosphere that would make the law seem necessary to
restore order. On February 27, 1933, they had burned the Reichstag
building, seat of the German government, causing panic and outrage. The
Nazis successfully blamed the fire on the Communists and claimed it marked
the beginning of a widespread uprising.
I believe the current consensus of historians is that the Nazis did not
assist van der Lubbe in burning the Reichstag. Of course, they hardly
needed to; with the state of Germany at the time, they could have
confidently expected some convenient crisis to come along with no effort
on their part. I mention this not to exonerate the Nazis, of course,
but only because I think it's very important to get your facts right
when making charges like the ones you are making. For example, there is
also no evidence that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9-11
attacks, so including the dubious claim that the Nazis were complicit in
the Reichstag fire actually weakens the analogy you wish to draw.
--
Aaron Boyden
"I may have done this and that for sufferers; but always I seemed to
have done better when I learned to feel better joys."
-Thus spoke Zarathustra
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
03 Mar 2004 11:59:26 PM |
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"The Sophist" <sophist@brown.edu> wrote
For example, there is also no evidence that the
Bush administration was complicit in the 9-11
attacks,
"Proof."
"There is no proof."
The close & personal relationship between the Bush
family and the Bin Laden family is well documented,
and has been for many, many years... starting long
before 9/11.
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| User: "Theorem t h e o r e m @ a x i o m e t r i c . o r g" |
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04 Mar 2004 08:36:22 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"The Sophist" <sophist@brown.edu> wrote
For example, there is also no evidence that the
Bush administration was complicit in the 9-11
attacks,
"Proof."
"There is no proof."
And that is the status quo that Bush&Co are trying to maintain by blocking
the 911 commission investigation. One has to ask: Why would the
administration block the investigation unless it has something to hide?
The close & personal relationship between the Bush
family and the Bin Laden family is well documented,
and has been for many, many years... starting long
before 9/11.
That's something to hide. I'll bet there's a lot more they're hiding.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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04 Mar 2004 12:19:46 PM |
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"Theorem" <t h e o r e m @ a x i o m e t r i c . o r g> wrote
And that is the status quo that Bush&Co are trying to maintain
by blocking the 911 commission investigation. One has to
ask: Why would the administration block the investigation
unless it has something to hide?
Bush said he doesn't want it to influence the election.
Now, assuming he wants to lose, that Bush wants to go down in
flames like his father, that would mean that the 9/11 report says
many good things about Bush.
Assuming Bush wants to win, that he doesn't want to be a single
term "President," we'd have to conclude that the report exposes
critical failures on the part of the Bush administration.
The close & personal relationship between the Bush
family and the Bin Laden family is well documented,
and has been for many, many years... starting long
before 9/11.
That's something to hide. I'll bet there's a lot more they're hiding.
The 9/11 report, as you pointed out.
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| User: "SkyModem" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
04 Mar 2004 01:54:30 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "The Sophist" <sophist@brown.edu> wrote
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| > For example, there is also no evidence that the
| > Bush administration was complicit in the 9-11
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| "There is no proof."
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| The close & personal relationship between the Bush
| family and the Bin Laden family is well documented,
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| before 9/11.
Interesting how you guys never come out of the woodwork to refute any of the
lying asholes who constantly post untrue trash about Kerry.
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| User: "Theorem t h e o r e m @ a x i o m e t r i c . o r g" |
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04 Mar 2004 08:39:18 AM |
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... For example, there is
also no evidence that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9-11
attacks ...
There's plenty of evidence of that, but so far, thanks to Bush&Co
stonewalling and the destruction of the physical evidence from ground zero,
there is as yet no *proof* of complicity. An absence of proof does not imply
innocence, merely the inability to convict on the available evidence.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Hitler's Enabling Act a.k.a "PATRIOT Act" |
04 Mar 2004 09:57:53 PM |
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The Sophist <sophist@brown.edu> wrote:
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
On March 23, 1933, the newly elected members of the German Parliament (the
Reichstag) met in the Kroll Opera House in Berlin to consider passing
Hitler's Enabling Act. It was officially called the 'Law for Removing the
Distress of the People and the Reich.' If passed, it would effectively mean
the end of democracy in Germany and establish the legal dictatorship of
Adolf Hitler.
The 'distress' had been secretly caused by the Nazis themselves in order to
create a crisis atmosphere that would make the law seem necessary to
restore order. On February 27, 1933, they had burned the Reichstag
building, seat of the German government, causing panic and outrage. The
Nazis successfully blamed the fire on the Communists and claimed it marked
the beginning of a widespread uprising.
I believe the current consensus of historians is that the Nazis did not
assist van der Lubbe in burning the Reichstag.
I suspect that the Nazis took advantage of what they knew would be
a good thing. It also looks like Bush and his fellow fascists took
advantage of the Wold Trade Center attacks to instigate their fascist
rehime's removal of rights.
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"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than-I say more Muslims-a
lot of Muslims have died-I don't know the exact count-at Istanbul. Look at
these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death
and destruction because killers kill."- GWBush Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
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| User: "Newton Joseph" |
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03 Mar 2004 10:29:46 PM |
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Hitler and Stalin Would Smile as They Recognize One of Their Own
By Newton Joseph
X
For close to fifty years America has had a pathological fear of a communist
takeover. Christianity and particularly the Catholic Church was stimulating
the fear because they recognized that communism was their competitors in
their hostility toward Democracy. I will make a brief case that Christianity
(the Catholic Church) was projecting their own dark side onto communism.
America had spent so much time, money and lives to buttress our
front door from
a communist attack. America was oblivious to the fascist incursion through
the back door.
America was hardly aware of this incursion because there was already at work
a fifth column subverting our basic freedom called Christianity. In our own
time, the Catholic Church has backed every Fascist who came to power because
they shared a common anti-democratic philosophy.
It was Hitler in Germany, Franco in Spain, Salazar of Portugal,
Batista of Cuba, Augusto Pinochet, Chilean Dictator, Mussolini of Italy and
Ante Pavelic of Crocia, (with the help of Hitler) When Pavelic and his
Ustashi (Nazi) hoards created an independent Catholic state of Croatia they
murdered hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children because they were
either Moslems or Eastern Orthodox and in the event any Jews survived
Hitler's
Holocaust was massacred in the Vatican's Holocaust.*
How many lay people know about (or priests who do not speak
Latin) Rome's Syllabus of Condemned opinions?. The syllabus was never
translated into modern language from its original Latin (except by Joseph
McCabe former monk and professor of philosophy and atheist.) a sample of
condemned opinions: (I chose the shorter ones for expediency)
2. Human reason is the sole judge of truth and falseness, good and evil. It
is a law unto itself and suffices, by its natural resources, to promote the
welfare of nations
5. Devine revelations is imperfect and therefore subject to continual and
indefinite progress and this corresponds to the advance of human reason.
7. The prophesies and miracles that are contained in Holy Writ are poetic
fiction, and the mysteries of the Christian faith are the outcome of
philosophic inquiries: the contents of both the new and old testaments are
fiction, and Jesus Christ is a mythical figure.
8. Since human reason is as valuable as religion, theological matters are to
be treated in the same way as philosophical.
*The Vatican Holocaust: by Avro Mahattan published by Ozark Books,
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9. All dogmas, without exception, of the Christian religion is
the subject of natural science or philosophy. Human reason can in the course
in time be so developed that by its natural force and the principles it can
attain all knowledge, even the profound, provided that these dogmas have
been submitted to reason as a subject. The Church not only must never
pass judgment on philosophy but must tolerate its errors and leave it to
correct them itself.
10. Since the philosopher is one thing and the philosophy
another, the former has the right and the duty to submit to authority which
he believes to be sound, but philosophy neither can nor ought to bow to
authority.
11. The Church not only must never pass judgment on philosophy but must
tolerate its errors and leave it to correct them itself.
12. The decrees of the apostolic see and the Roman congregations are an
impediment to the free advances of science.
13. The methods and the principles, which the older scholastic
doctors used in studying theology, are not in the least in harmony with the
needs of our time and the progress of the sciences
14. Philosophy must be studied without any regard to supernatural
revelation.
15. Every man is free to adopt and profess any religion which under the
guidance of reason he believes to be true
18. Protestantism is only another form of the one true Christian religion,
and God is just as pleased for men to join it as to join the Catholic
Church.
20. Ecclesiastical authority must not use its powers without the permission
and consent of the civil government.
21. The church has no power to lay down dogmatically that the religion of
the Catholic Church is the one true church
24. The church has no power to use force or any temporal power, direct or
indirect
27. The sacred ministry of the church and the Roman pontiff must be entirely
without the permission of the government.
28. Bishops cannot be allowed to publish even the pope's letters
without the permission
of the government
3.
30. The immunity of the church and of Ecclesiastical persons has its
origin in civil law.
31. The Ecclesiastical court for hearing secular charges must be
entirely abolished,
without consulting or even against the protest of the Apostolic see.
34. The idea that the Roman pontiff may be compared to a free prince
acting in the universal church is medieval.
37. It is lawful to establish national churches that are not subject
to the authority of the Roman pontiff and are, in fact, entirely separated.
39. A republic, as the origin and power of all rights, has an
unlimited power.
40. The teaching of the Catholic Church is opposed to the welfare of
human society.
42. In a conflict of law between two powers the civil takes
precedence.
55. The church must be separated from the state and the state from the
church.
56. Moral law does not need a Devine sanction, it is not at all
necessary that human laws should conform to the law of nature or derive
their binding force from God.
58. No forces are to be recognized which are not inherent in matter,
and all moral
and decent effort ought to be expended in accumulating wealth and
procuring pleasure in
any way.
59. Right consist of a material fact, "Duties of Man" is an empty
phrase, and all
man's acts have the force of right.
62. The principle of non-intervention is to be recommended and
observed.
63. It is lawful to refuse to obey and even rebel against legitimate
princes.
74. Matrimonial and Espousal cases belong by their very nature to the
civil courts.
80. The Roman pontiff can and ought to be reconciled and come to terms
with
progress, liberalism, and modern civilization.
To these theologians add these which are, they say, condemned in the
bull itself; (1) that the highest public interest and the progress of
society emphatically demand that human society be constituted and governed
without any regard for religion, as if there were no such thing.
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I want to remind you these are concepts the Catholic Church condemns.
(3) That freedom of conscience and religion are the right of every man, and
it ought to be decreed by law in every properly-constituted society that all
citizens have the right to all freedom without the coercion of either Civil
or Ecclesiastical authority so that they may publicly declare their opinions
either vocally or in print or in any other way. (4) That the will of the
people, made known either by public opinion or in any other way, is the
supreme law, apart from any divine or human right, and that in
the political order accomplished facts have, by the very fact that
they are accomplished, the force of law. (8) That the clergy, being hostile
to true and useful science and the advance of civilization, must be excluded
from all share in the training and education of the young.
If this syllabus was read by 10,000 Catholics on the street and told
they were Fascist or Communistic and they would be expected to embrace them
would provoke indignation and soundly reject them as being undemocratic
unaware these are
the credos their religion (Catholicism) demands their parishioners to
accept.
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