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Hitler's shady past - sinner, jew, cultist, or all of the above? |
Hitler apparently had a very shady past. So much so that he made extra efforts to conceal it. He
was worried that he himself might actually be 1/4 Jewish. So far I've found evidence of
illegitimacy in Hitlers ancestory which means it might never be known for sure whether Hitler was a
pure Ayran or not, and I've found evidence (from Iranians -see below) that Hitlers mother was a
Jewish prostitute.
"Hitler's paternal grandfather was most likely one of the brothers Johann Georg Hiedler or Johann
Nepomuk Hiedler. There were rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his grandmother,
Maria Schicklgruber, became pregnant while working as a servant in a Jewish household. The
implications of these rumours were politically explosive for the proponent of a racist ideology.
Opponents tried to prove that Hitler had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were
never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins. According to Robert G.
L. Waite in The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler, Hitler made it illegal for German women to work in
Jewish households, and after the "Anschluss" (annexation) of Austria, Hitler turned his father's
hometown into an artillery practice area. Waite says that Hitler's insecurities in this regard may
have been more important than whether Judaic ancestry could have been proven by his peers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
"After the war Hitler's former lawyer, Hans Frank, claimed that Adolf told him in 1930 that one of
his relatives was trying to blackmail him by threatening to reveal his alleged Jewish ancestry.
Hitler asked Frank to find out the facts. Frank says he determined that at the time Maria
Schicklgruber gave birth to Alois, she was working as a household cook in the town of Graz. Her
employers were a Jewish family named Frankenberger, who had a 19-year-old son. The son, according to
Frank, was Alois's father and Hitler's grandfather--which would make the man who inspired the
Holocaust one-quarter Jewish."
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html
According to one source, the Iranians think Hitler help create the Jewish State of Israel....
Tuesday, January 02, 2007 by Staff Writer - Hitler a Jew?
"Hitler was a Jew who helped found Israel." It might seem preposterous to many, but recent comments
made by Mohammad-Ali Ramin, a top advisor to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seem to indicate
otherwise. In a recent interview with an Iranian website, Ramin said that Adolph Hitler was a Jew
from his mother’s side and his actions to found the State of Israel stemmed from his Jewish
connections and came as a result of cooperation between him and Britain in light of their joint
wishes to rid Europe of all Jews. Ramin explained Hitler’s hate towards the Jews because his mother
was a Jewish prostitute and he developed a loathing towards her and her ethnic background. "At this
time he both felt disdain and connection to the Jewish faith, and this ambivalence effected his
treatment of the Jews," Ramin said. According to Ramin, on one hand, all of his family and friends
were Jewish including his lovers and his personal doctor. "On the other hand," Ramin added, "he
welcomed the expulsion and extermination of the Jews because of the rich Jews’ plans to establish a
Jewish government in Palestine."
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10957
Makemud AfterdinnerJohn condemned Hitler publically....
"The Iranian nation hates killing and considers Hitler and the executioners of the World War II as
black and dark figures," he said. "But the Iranian nation has a question and as long as there is no
clear and reasonable response to this question, it will remain."
Ahmadinejad said "Zionists" should move to empty lands in Europe or North America and out of the
Middle East entirely. "Europeans cannot tolerate the Zionists in their region and country, but they
want to impose them on the people of the region... Give these vast lands of Canada and Alaska to
them to create a country for themselves."
http://www.israel.org/MFA/The+Iranian+Threat/Holocaust+denial+and+Antisemitism/Iranian%20President%20Ahmadinejad%20addresses%20Jerusalem%20Day%20rally%20in%20Tehran%205-Oct-2007
Hitlers right hand man was into the occult...
Heinrich Himmler - "Possibly the most powerful figure in the Third Reich after Hitler, Himmler - son
of a Roman Catholic teacher and originally a devout Catholic. Saw the men in his army as the
reincarnation of Teutonic knights and kings, in particular the knights of King Arthur's round table.
He modeled the Nazi castle in Wewelsburg after the legend of King Arthur. Underneath the roundtable
was a small room called the ‘realm of the dead’, where various occult rituals were performed. It was
in the actual roundtable room where Himmler and his followers conducted occult rituals such as
communicating with dead ancestors and Teutonic knights of the past. "
"The SS was also the ideological vanguard of the new religion, and the instrument through which the
Aryan people would be indoctrinated into it. Himmler established festivals on the Summer and Winter
Solstices incorporating elements of ancient pagan rituals such as sun and nature worship. These
celebrations were always characterized by a strong SS presence."
http://www.geocities.com/nephilimnot/hitler.html
All things considered, Hitler and his Nazis were not standing on high moral ground. (In fact, Hitler
himelf could barely stand on any ground if the outside temperature was a bit on the cool side.....)
"The Fuehrer could not stand the climate of Russia; he complained of constant headaches." -
Jodl, Chief of Staff of German High Command, to Survey Interrogators (United States
Strategic Bombing Survey Summary Report - European War Washington, D.C. 30 September 1945)
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/USSBS/ETO-Summary.html
Jd
"Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I
have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That
unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" (Isaiah 45:22-23)
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| User: "cactus" |
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04 Jan 2008 11:23:34 AM |
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Jd wrote:
Hitler apparently had a very shady past. So much so that he made extra efforts to conceal it. He
was worried that he himself might actually be 1/4 Jewish. So far I've found evidence of
illegitimacy in Hitlers ancestory which means it might never be known for sure whether Hitler was a
pure Ayran or not, and I've found evidence (from Iranians -see below) that Hitlers mother was a
Jewish prostitute.
"Hitler's paternal grandfather was most likely one of the brothers Johann Georg Hiedler or Johann
Nepomuk Hiedler. There were rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his grandmother,
Maria Schicklgruber, became pregnant while working as a servant in a Jewish household. The
implications of these rumours were politically explosive for the proponent of a racist ideology.
Opponents tried to prove that Hitler had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were
never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins. According to Robert G.
L. Waite in The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler, Hitler made it illegal for German women to work in
Jewish households, and after the "Anschluss" (annexation) of Austria, Hitler turned his father's
hometown into an artillery practice area. Waite says that Hitler's insecurities in this regard may
have been more important than whether Judaic ancestry could have been proven by his peers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
"After the war Hitler's former lawyer, Hans Frank, claimed that Adolf told him in 1930 that one of
his relatives was trying to blackmail him by threatening to reveal his alleged Jewish ancestry.
Hitler asked Frank to find out the facts. Frank says he determined that at the time Maria
Schicklgruber gave birth to Alois, she was working as a household cook in the town of Graz. Her
employers were a Jewish family named Frankenberger, who had a 19-year-old son. The son, according to
Frank, was Alois's father and Hitler's grandfather--which would make the man who inspired the
Holocaust one-quarter Jewish."
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html
According to one source, the Iranians think Hitler help create the Jewish State of Israel....
Tuesday, January 02, 2007 by Staff Writer - Hitler a Jew?
"Hitler was a Jew who helped found Israel." It might seem preposterous to many, but recent comments
made by Mohammad-Ali Ramin, a top advisor to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seem to indicate
otherwise. In a recent interview with an Iranian website, Ramin said that Adolph Hitler was a Jew
from his mother’s side and his actions to found the State of Israel stemmed from his Jewish
connections and came as a result of cooperation between him and Britain in light of their joint
wishes to rid Europe of all Jews. Ramin explained Hitler’s hate towards the Jews because his mother
was a Jewish prostitute and he developed a loathing towards her and her ethnic background. "At this
time he both felt disdain and connection to the Jewish faith, and this ambivalence effected his
treatment of the Jews," Ramin said. According to Ramin, on one hand, all of his family and friends
were Jewish including his lovers and his personal doctor. "On the other hand," Ramin added, "he
welcomed the expulsion and extermination of the Jews because of the rich Jews’ plans to establish a
Jewish government in Palestine."
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10957
Makemud AfterdinnerJohn condemned Hitler publically....
"The Iranian nation hates killing and considers Hitler and the executioners of the World War II as
black and dark figures," he said. "But the Iranian nation has a question and as long as there is no
clear and reasonable response to this question, it will remain."
Ahmadinejad said "Zionists" should move to empty lands in Europe or North America and out of the
Middle East entirely. "Europeans cannot tolerate the Zionists in their region and country, but they
want to impose them on the people of the region... Give these vast lands of Canada and Alaska to
them to create a country for themselves."
http://www.israel.org/MFA/The+Iranian+Threat/Holocaust+denial+and+Antisemitism/Iranian%20President%20Ahmadinejad%20addresses%20Jerusalem%20Day%20rally%20in%20Tehran%205-Oct-2007
Hitlers right hand man was into the occult...
Heinrich Himmler - "Possibly the most powerful figure in the Third Reich after Hitler, Himmler - son
of a Roman Catholic teacher and originally a devout Catholic. Saw the men in his army as the
reincarnation of Teutonic knights and kings, in particular the knights of King Arthur's round table.
He modeled the Nazi castle in Wewelsburg after the legend of King Arthur. Underneath the roundtable
was a small room called the ‘realm of the dead’, where various occult rituals were performed. It was
in the actual roundtable room where Himmler and his followers conducted occult rituals such as
communicating with dead ancestors and Teutonic knights of the past. "
"The SS was also the ideological vanguard of the new religion, and the instrument through which the
Aryan people would be indoctrinated into it. Himmler established festivals on the Summer and Winter
Solstices incorporating elements of ancient pagan rituals such as sun and nature worship. These
celebrations were always characterized by a strong SS presence."
http://www.geocities.com/nephilimnot/hitler.html
All things considered, Hitler and his Nazis were not standing on high moral ground. (In fact, Hitler
himelf could barely stand on any ground if the outside temperature was a bit on the cool side.....)
"The Fuehrer could not stand the climate of Russia; he complained of constant headaches." -
Jodl, Chief of Staff of German High Command, to Survey Interrogators (United States
Strategic Bombing Survey Summary Report - European War Washington, D.C. 30 September 1945)
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/USSBS/ETO-Summary.html
Jd
"Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I
have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That
unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" (Isaiah 45:22-23)
You are in better company than they are.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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03 Jan 2008 09:02:02 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:25:55 +0000, Jd wrote:
Hitler apparently had a very shady past
That's nice.
Now go away.
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar
doctrine that age brings wisdom.â€
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| User: "raven1" |
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03 Jan 2008 08:34:24 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:25:55 GMT, Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
<snip>
Please don't eat me! My brothers are much fatter than me, and they'll
be along any minute now!
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"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to skyscrapers..."
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| User: "Topaz" |
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04 Jan 2008 04:22:45 PM |
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The question of Mr Hitler's ancestry is dealt with at the beginning of
Ian Kershaw's 840+ page book entitled Hitler (Harmondsworth, Penguin:
1998).
<begin quote at p. 7>
The third possibility is that Adolf Hitler's grandfather was Jewish.
Rumours to that effect circulated in Munich cafes in the early 1920s,
and were fostered by sensationalist journalism of the foreign press
during the 1930s. It was suggested that the name Huttler was Jewish,
'revealed' that he could be traced to a Jewish family called Hitler in
Bucharest, and even claimed that his father had been sired by Baron
Rothschild, in whose house in Vienna his grandmother had allegedly
spent
some time as a servant. But the most serious speculation about
Hitler's supposed Jewish background has occurred since the Second
World War and is directly traceable to the memoirs of the leading Nazi
lawyer and Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, dictated in his
Nuremburg cell while awaiting the hangman...
Allegedly commissioned by Hitler to look into his family history,
Frank reportedly discovered that Maria Anna Shicklgruber had given
birth to her child while serving as a cook in the home of a Jewish
family called Grankenberger in Graz...
Frank's story gained wide circulation in the 1950s. But it simply does
not stand up. There was no Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz
during the 1880s. In fact, there were no Jews at all in the whole of
Styria at that time, since Jews were not permitted in that part of
Austria until the 1860s. A family named Frankenreiter did live there,
but was not Jewish . . . Hans Frank's memoirs, dictated at a time of
when he was waiting for the hangman and plainly undergoing a
psychological crisis, are full of inaccuracies and have to be used
with caution. With regard to the story of Hitler's grandfather,
whoever he was, he was not a Jew from Graz.
The only serious contenders for the paternity of Hitler's father
remain, therefore, Johann Georg Hiedler and Johann Nepomuk Hiedler (or
Huttler).
<end quote>
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Jd" |
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07 Jan 2008 06:47:02 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
The only serious contenders for the paternity of Hitler's father
remain, therefore, Johann Georg Hiedler and Johann Nepomuk Hiedler (or
Huttler).
<end quote>
Good. At least you've admitted that no one knows Hitlers ancestry for sure.
Didn't Hitler preach a "pure Aryan race"? What's up with that (or "wassup widdat" for the
miscegenated metro-sexual audience following along)?
Question: Why do the Iranians claim that Hitler was Jewish?
The fact that they do means that they think of folks like you as being on the side of jews.
Jd
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| User: "Topaz" |
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08 Jan 2008 03:31:44 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:47:02 GMT, Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
Good. At least you've admitted that no one knows Hitlers ancestry for sure.
Didn't Hitler preach a "pure Aryan race"? What's up with that (or "wassup widdat" for the
miscegenated metro-sexual audience following along)?
Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
"All that we admire in the world to-day, its science, its art, its
technical developements and discoveries, are the products of the
creative activities of a few peoples, and it may be true that their
first beginnings must be attributed to one race. The maintenance of
civilization is wholly dependant on such peoples. Should they perish,
all that makes this earth beautiful will descend with them into the
grave."
"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because
the originally creative race died out, as a result of the
contamination on the blood."
"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art,
science and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is
almost exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very
fact fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who
founded a superior type of humanity"
"The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of
the native Japanese culture., although this characterizes the
exterenal features of the country, which features strike the eye of
European observers on account of their fundamental difference from us;
but the real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the
enormous scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America,
that is to say, of Aryan peoples."
"A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood
thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its
manifestations. A disintegrated natioanal character is the inevitable
consequence of the process of disintegration in the blood. And the
change which takes place in the spiritual and creative faculties of a
people is only an effect of the change that had modified its racial
substance."
"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and negroids all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever."
"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one."
"There may be hundreds of excellent States in this earth, and yet if
the Aryan, who is the creator and custodian of civilization, should
disappear, all culture that is on an adequate level with the spiritual
needs of the superior nations to-day would also disappear."
"We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take
up a revolutionary stand in the world to-day and that we are branded
as revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be
determined by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries,
but only by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In
doing this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a
clearer insight"
"Thus for the first time a high inner purpose is accredited to
the State. In face of the ridiculous phrase that the State should do
no more than act as the guardian of public order and tranquillity, so
that everybody can peacefully dupe everybody else, it is given a very
high mission indeed to preserve and encourage the highest type of
humanity which a beneficent Creator has bestowed on this earth."
Question: Why do the Iranians claim that Hitler was Jewish?
There are some a-holes in every country.
The fact that they do means that they think of folks like you as being on the side of jews.
Iran Ex-President Rafsanjani Comments on Hitler and Jews
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301296,00 .html
Hashemi Rafsanjani, former Iranian president and current Chairman of
the Assembly of Experts, said Friday that Hitler's treatment of Jewish
people in Europe was due in part to their being "a pain in the neck."
Rafsanjani's comments came during a sermon for "International
Jerusalem Day" on Iranian TV. Rafsanjani noted that Jews caused
problems for European governments because they "had a lot of property"
and "controlled an empire of propaganda." He also said that the Nazis
were successful in saving Europe from the evil of Zionism.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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08 Jan 2008 03:50:45 PM |
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On 8 Jan., 22:31, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:47:02 GMT, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:
Good. At least you've admitted that no one knows Hitlers ancestry for sur=
e.
Didn't Hitler preach a "pure Aryan race"? What's up with that (or "wassup=
widdat" for the
miscegenated metro-sexual audience following along)?
=A0Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
I think I told you before to *****, nazi piece of *****, didn't I?
In case I haven't, *****, nazi piece of *****.
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| User: "Topaz" |
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08 Jan 2008 07:19:00 PM |
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Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:
"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'
In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'
She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.
To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.
They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.
The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.
I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.
To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.
The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.
Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.
Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.
We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...
One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.
It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.
They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.
I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'
However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'
They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.
To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.
For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.
As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....
Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.
On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.
If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.
I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.
The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...
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On 9 jan, 02:19, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:
*****, nazi piece of *****.
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The Hitler We Loved and Why , Eric Thomson
What, other than love, can explain the German people's glad welcome
of
this humble, but thoroughly dedicated savior from the Eastern
Marches?
What, other than love, can explain how the people of greater Germany
remained with him in bad times and in good, for better or for worse?
What, other than love, can explain the fact that those who remember
him love him still?
We loved him because he stood for the best that was in us, and as our
Leader, demanded of us our best. It was never Hitler's Germany. It
shall always be: Germany's Hitler, the man loved by his people.
This is why we loved him...
We loved him because he loved us and our children.
We loved him so much that we, the young and not so young, made
pilgrimages to his home in the Alps - not to ask him for favors, but
merely to catch a glimpse of him and to be near him.
We loved him because he was a good listener and lived simply.
We loved him because he spoke the unspoken thoughts of our souls in
such a way that all could understand. He did not "over-simplify" our
problems. He clarified them. He did not beguile us with cheap
solutions and easy panaceas, for there were none. He did not
"guarantee" us a better world. He asked us to FIGHT for one. Fight we
did, for we who heard him knew he was right.
We loved him because he was honest. He did not expound the supposed
virtues of democracy and then corrupt the process with purchased
votes.
We loved him, not because he was a "great dictator", but because he
was a great teacher, a living example of the order he preached.
Without order, nothing can exist. How well we who had suffered knew
this lesson! But when there is no basis for instruction, no racial
pattern, no heredity, the lesson of order cannot be learned, no
matter
how brilliant the instructor. He taught us this all-important truth
of
Race. Hitler's inspiration kindled our racial potential for
construction and creativity. His order was not imposed upon us. It
came from within.
We loved Hitler because he was a White Man. He practiced our White
virtues of forthright honesty and his actions matched his words. If
something was filth, he disposed of it as filth with sanitary
thoroughness. He did not enshrine the excrescence of sick minds. He
was not ashamed to burn shameful enemy propaganda which was aimed at
the destruction of our souls.
He was not like our racial enemy and his democratic stooges who
preached freedom of the press and practiced suppression.
We loved him because he replaced the wasteful idleness of our penal
system with productive labor and punishment with redemption. Even
habitual criminals fulfilled useful roles in our society, roles which
even they could look upon with pride. Not only did he save us from
them, he saved them for us.
We loved him because he protected us from religious charlatans --
preachers for profit who posed as prophets of God in order to batten
like vampires on the trust of simple believers.
We loved him because he defended us against the racial enemy's
campaign to spread perversion among us. He knew that sexual
perversion
was poison and that enough of it could kill any race.
We thanked him for removing from circulation the many Jew smut
publications which championed all manner of sexual deviation,
including abortion, in the name of "freedom of the press."
We loved him because he removed our alien dominators and place them
back among their own kind.
We loved him because he freed us from those corrupted by gold and
replaced them with able and incorruptible men.
We loved him because he did not surround himself with persons who
sought idle privilege, but who sought instead the privilege of
serving
us. No means of helping our people was too humble for our "high and
mighty" leaders. We contributed freely, for we loved our leaders
almost as much as we did our Leader.
We loved him because he made our police force work for us, not
against
us. Our young learned that our police were not against us, but a
necessary help in the establishment of a healthy society. Certainly,
all available help was necessary to protect the honest citizens from
the machinations of traitors, secret societies and minority pressure
groups. We supported our police because they were German police,
working for German government. Thus, we required far fewer police to
"maintain public order" under Hitler than we do today, under alien
domination.
We loved him because he did not persecute our enemies, but prosecuted
them. without fear or favor, according to law -- our law.
We loved him because he saved us from the alien invaders who promoted
the extinction of our Race, the White Race.
We loved him because he kept our entertainment media free of the
perversion of race-mixing and race suicide.
We loved him because he used the entertainment media to educate us
about life and true values. The themes were uplifting in ways which
were never dull. Best of all, they were OUR plays and films, by OUR
people.
We loved him because he taught us the truth about Race and proved,
even to skeptics, that the White Race is the founder of all great
cultures and civilizations and that race-mixing is the great
destroyer.
We loved him because he hid nothing from us. He was confident in our
strength to face the worst atrocities our enemies had to offer -- and
surmount them with courage and determination.
We loved him because he taught our Fellow White men, the Poles, the
truth about their Jewish Soviet "liberators." He showed the world the
ghastly face of communism by revealing the Katyn Forest Massacre of
the Polish officer corps and by proving forever the guilt of the
Soviet system.
We loved him because he had bold plans which benefited man and
harmonized with nature.
We loved him because he gave us the best roads in the world, envied
and emulated by other peoples ever since. Not only did he give us
roads, but a cheap, practical car to run on them, the Volkswagen: the
People's Car.
We loved him for giving us honest money and thereby saving our jobs,
our homes and our industry. He made our lives not only bearable, but
fruitful.
We loved him because he did the Work of the Lord, by driving the
money-changers out of our country. He taught us that true wealth is
not based on gold nor upon credit. but upon the productivity of our
land and people. Honest money is only possible with honest men. No
system of law or gold can protect us from criminals in government.
There is no substitute for honest men.
We loved him because he wrested the creation of our money away from
the Jews, like his American predecessor, Abraham Lincoln. He restored
our economy to peacetime prosperity. It was not preparation for war
that ended our depression. Where the Jews retained their money power,
the depression worsened. Unemployment rose drastically in America and
Britain at this time. As the British military strategist, Liddell
Hart, maintained: The last thing Hitler wanted was war. But war came
at last. and none too soon for the Jewish bankers! War was declared
by
Britain in 1939, but little fighting occurred. Britain announced
Jewish terms for ending the war: Kill Hitler and return to the
international gold standard. For Germany, the choice was certain
death
by starvation or possible death in battle.
The Jewish bankers had created massive unemployment in our country,
just as they had done in England, France, America and throughout the
world. They did this by decreasing the supply of money, which our
racial renegade governments had allowed them to control entirely.
Before Hitler came to power, 7 million Germans were unemployed and
over 6 million only partially employed. In the four bleak years from
1929 to 1933, despair and hopelessness caused the death by suicide of
some 250,000 of our people.
We loved him because he freed us from dire dependency on the whims
and
vagaries of foreign suppliers of domestic necessities. He taught us
that political independence was possible only with economic
independence.
In 4 years, from 1933 to 1937, he made us virtually self-sufficient
in
the production of steel, aluminum, chemicals, petroleum and general
industrial production.
We loved him because he had a deep reverence for our past. A people
whose roots are strong cannot be toppled by gusts of fad, fashion and
foolish innovation.
We loved him because he was a deeply spiritual man who did not allow
the Jews to confuse Christian teachings. Over 40% of the SS were
Catholics.
We loved him because he built churches for us. Christian churches. In
the name of Christianity, our enemies destroyed these churches, later
bragging about the "precision" of their bombing raids. Today, Rabbis
lecture in "Christian" schools. The Talmud of the Jews, their "holy
book." describes non-Jews as "beasts of the field" and "cattle." The
Jews have not changed. Why have the Christians changed?
We loved him because he reaffirmed the goodness and the wisdom of
wholesome work and wholesome food.
We loved him because he trusted his people. He did not find it
necessary to restrict firearms ownership. No true Leader need fear
the
armed members of his Race.
We loved him because he taught us to appreciate beauty by creating it
with our own hands. Perfection and excellence were our goals. As we
worked to master our medium, we learned to observe Nature and to
apply
Her Laws. Thus did we become artists and also National Socialists,
for
National Socialism is simply the application of Nature's Laws to
politics.
We loved him because he encouraged the sexes to realize their full
potentials, as complementary rather than competitive beings. Men were
made for women and women for men. Each was trained for that which he
or she could do best. This did not mean that men could not be
artistic
or creative, nor did it mean that women could not be great
aviatrixes,
photographers, film-directors, athletes. etc. It simply meant that,
whatever we did, our men were manly and our women feminine. Enemy
inculcation of sexual role confusion with the aim of crippling the
sexes' role in child-rearing was thus overthrown and scattered to the
winds.
We loved him because he devoted much effort and care to provide the
unborn and parents to-be with a healthy and pleasant environment.
Beginning with healthy young parents, Hitler encouraged good prenatal
care by stressing healthy diet, exercise and freedom from
intoxicants.
The unhealthy and the mentally-defective were discouraged from
inflicting more of themselves upon our hard-pressed population;
sterilization was recommended for carriers of genetic defects. The
German people could decide who should have children -- not the Jewish
bankers.
We loved him because he protected the rights of the unborn and
because
he treated the young with the love and respect they deserve as our
successors and he made them worthy of that love and respect by
training them for responsible adulthood.
We loved him because he brought us Europeans together. With him, we
knew our strength and felt the awesome importance of our Racial
Mission as never before. He brought all of us together, even
Americans, Russians and Britons. White men from all the countries of
Europe joined his ranks to defend the Holy Swastika Banner of our
Race. Because we fought to the end, the destruction of White
Civilization was avoided. Our sacrifice was not in vain!
We loved him because he brought out the best in our fighting men. He
bestowed upon us a new generation of heroes. He was loyal to our
allies and backed his words with action.
We loved him for his greatness in overlooking the mean propaganda
pricks of enemy gadflies.
We loved him for his chivalry, his conduct of war so as to lose as
few
White lives as possible -- friend or foe.
We loved him because he honored our heroes. A Race without heroes is
a
dead or dying Race. Our White heroes are brave, forthright, strong
and
kind. The "heroes" of our racial enemy are cowardly, devious, weak
and
cruel. A Race is known by its heroes, because heroes are examples to
cherish and to emulate. Thus do we differ from our racial enemy, the
Jew.
We loved him because his spiritual presence prevented our sufferings
and sorrows from overwhelming us.
He was adored like no other mortal, before or since.
Today, his spirit soars beyond the shores of the White Man's home in
Europe. Wherever we are, he is with us.
HEIL HITLER!
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10 Jan 2008 05:24:52 AM |
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On 9 Jan., 22:36, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
=A0The Hitler We Loved and Why , Eric Thomson
*****, nazi piece of *****.
And get help.
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10 Jan 2008 04:16:19 PM |
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Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:
"The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter
to Mr. Balfour (see page 25), denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan,
which if not checked by the combined action of the European powers,
would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration. By the end of
that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities
of Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organized and maintained for
some time a merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia.
In Germany the Jews, Liebknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg,
etc., made a desperate bid for power. These and other similar
convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own way just
frustated the onslaughts.
In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in the
endeavour to expose the true nature of these evils. Only in one,
however, did a political leader and group arise, who grasped to the
full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world
Jewry. This leader was Adolf Hitler, and his group the National
Socialist Party of Germany.
Never before in history had any country not only repulsed organized
revolution, but discerned Jewry behind it, and faced up to that fact.
We need not wonder that the sewers of Jewish vituperation were flooded
over these men and their leader; nor should we make the mistake of
supposing that Jewry would stick at any lie to deter honest men
everywhere from making a thorough investigation of the facts for
themselves. Nevertheless, if any value liberty, and set out to seek
truth and defend it, this duty of personal investigation is one which
they cannot shirk.
To accept unquestioningly the lies and misrepresentaions of a
Jew-controlled or influenced press, is to spurn truth by sheer
idleness, if for no worse reason."
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10 Jan 2008 04:55:17 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:
<snip bizarre screed from our resident neonazi>
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10 Jan 2008 06:39:17 PM |
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Here is a quote from an article by Julius Streicher in 1944:
Der Stürmer, #23/1944, What is Americanism
"The family ties between hundreds of thousands of German families and
their American relatives led many to think that America would never
join a second war against Germany. Now that that has happened, many
Germans still believe that America will never allow Bolshevism to
conquer and destroy Germany. Recent events have proven how false and
dangerous this idea is. One has to be be foolish or irredeemably
stupid to believe that anything good can come to Europe from the land
of presumed opportunity. That that did not happen after the First
World War, and will not happen after the second. The Jews have made
America what it is today: a nation raped by the Jews , a nation whose
130,000,000 people of many colors and races have been forced into
helping the Jews achieve world domination!"
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10 Jan 2008 07:22:58 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
Here is a quote from an article by Julius Streicher
<snip>
You sure have despicable role models. Get a life.
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11 Jan 2008 04:17:48 PM |
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"I know you expect no deep expression of feelings, for feelings cannot
be clothed in words. But please imagine this: jobless, without any
money. For two years! For four years! For six years! A desperate
woman, broken in body and soul, with three young children.
How often did I see their hungry eyes looking toward me with vain
expectation. Nothing is more tortuous than such looks from children.
My faith in him, the fanatical fighter, was what kept me and mine from
what lured us - and anyone else in our situation - Suicide!
And today?
A happy mother who is always singing with her children. No one can see
in her the miserable, desperate woman she once was. Instead of three
unhappy hollow-cheeked children, four little devils making noise far
and wide.
Look at them! There may be families with better behaved children, but
none with children as cheerful and happy! That is what the Führer
means to me and mine.
I turned my back very early to a foreign worldview because it left my
whole life meaningless. The Führer gave me his worldview a firm place
to stand, for it is nothing but a knowledge of the eternal laws that
are behind the universe.
His deeds are a joyful fulfillment of these laws. His successes do not
seem to me, as one hears all too often, the result of good luck,
rather as the natural consequences of his nature. This faith, no, this
certainty, enables me to understand the Führer when his actions would
otherwise require blind confidence.
Such obvious confidence is the most wonderful feeling that I can
imagine. Admiration? Recognition? Thanks? They are nothing when
compared to the full understanding of a people of 80 million for the
mission of its Führer. That alone would be crowning of his sacrificial
struggle.
This fulfillment of this wish is my prayer for the Führer."
Fred. Ch., Poppelau
"The Führer is everything to us, he is our faith, security and hope.
As a bearer of the blood medal, I have always believed in this man,
who guided and inspired us, who led us in the fight for Germany's
greatness. We, me, my wife and our seven children, believe only in
him, Adolf Hitler. Is there a belief more understandable, more real,
more natural than this?
Has the Führer not done everything for us that one could do for the
good of a family? Did he not give me a job and the ability to decently
feed and clothe my family? Has he not given my children a future that
no other country could so easily give?
The Führer is with us in every situation! Look, sometimes the world is
hard on a family. There are difficult situations that cannot be
overcome. In just such hours I go to my living room, and there is a
picture of my Führer.
I look Adolf Hitler in the face and remember his great struggle, his
great will and accomplishments, and my miserable mood is gone and
thinking of the Führer gives me new strength.
How can I fail when I see the greatness in and around Adolf Hitler?
My children know the Führer as the man who rules all, arranges all,
who built their world. The Führer is the embodiment of what people had
such difficulty describing to us children before. But this is the
enormous difference: The Führer moves among the people so that one can
celebrate him, so that our love for him is rewarded through his ever
new deeds.
The Führer is hope for us in every situation. Look, my dear comrade,
according to the Führer's own words, raising seven children is a great
responsibility to the state and a holy duty.
To form these young souls, to raise them to be decent adults, is such
a wonderful task only because the Führer has given us the sure
foundations that are necessary. He is our hope, for only through his
generous measures are we with many children also able to "lead an
decent life," as anyone should be able to do. He protects our strength
through the NSV, through subventions for children, through the support
the state gives women and children, through the high status he gave
children.
Once people mocked those with many children. Today people honor them.
Now my wife and I have become respected members of the state. That is
why we have such hope for the future of our children, for the Führer
has provided all that is necessary for them so that they too will be
able to establish families and contribute to the security and
protection of the great Fatherland.
Is it not wonderful to know what a wonderful future awaits our
children. One cannot but remember our own youth during the postwar
period, during the inflation, the days of hunger and so much that had
terrible effects on our youth and development.
Our children have no fears of such things, for they know that our
Führer plans everything, foresees everything, and prepares the best
for us.
Is it not obvious why the Führer means everything to us?"
Toni Dominik Sch., Unterammergau
"I can still remember the first time I saw and heard the Führer in
1920 in the Zirkus Krone in Munich. This was the introduction: "Adolf
Hitler will speak!" A somewhat slight young man stood before me, with
a short coat, soft collar and crumpled tie, poorly clothed. I was
curious to hear what this man had to say to me.
As I heard his voice, the passion of his words (something unheard of
at the time), the growing tension of his words, it became clear to me:
This man or no one! To this day, this inner feeling has not left me.
The greatness of this man, his deeds, his historic successes seem
enormous to me. But yet I always see him as a man of the people, one
of us in my mind's eye. It fills me with pride that Providence choice
one of our brothers to fulfill German history.
I honor the great figures of German history, but my feelings for the
Führer are different. I believe that love is the best word to describe
them.
One of us, who came from the people, has done amazing deeds, yet
remained the same from the first day I saw him until today.
I admire this man so much that I would defend him even if he were in
the wrong, but he cannot be wrong since he is truth and justice
themselves."
Gr. F., Munich
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
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On 11 Jan., 23:17, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"I know you expect no deep expression of feelings, for feelings cannot
*****, nazi piece of *****.
And get help.
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Exposing the Real Racists
Edgar Johnston, PhD. reviews an important new book
Jewish Supremacism by David Duke. Published by Free Speech Press, 2003
More than 500,000 copies of 'Jewish Supremacism' have been sold
worldwide. It is even sold within the Russian Duma (parliament).
Jewish leaders are extremely fearful of this book. I can illustrate
the cause of their concern by giving an example of David Duke's
technique in exposing what he calls Jewish supremacism.
If any prominent political person in the Western World publicly
announced that Jews are frequently disloyal to nations where they live
and that they view Gentiles as racially inferior, he would face
excoriation as an 'anti-Semite'. Probably, he would be driven from
office. Duke has no need to make such claims, for he simply quotes
very prominent and powerful Jews who make his point for him.
FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH
In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr.
Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish
organisation in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a
2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:-
'I'll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my
generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a
quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative
years... I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted
a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a
foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language... and was taught
the superiority of my people to the 'Gentiles' who oppressed us.
'We were taught to view non-Jews as... people less sensitive,
intelligent and moral than ourselves.'
This method of quoting major Jewish figures and sources is used
hundreds of times in Duke's book to advance his thesis that there is a
powerful Jewish supremacist element in Judaism and Zionism that
threatens not only the freedom of the Palestinian people but all
nations, including the United States.
Duke also uses direct quotes from the Talmud and other major Jewish
sources, such as the Jewish Encyclopedia to expose a long-standing
cadre of hateful, anti-Gentile Jewish supremacists. Shocking quotes
are displayed from major Jewish magazines that boast of a Jewish
supremacy over the media and politics of the United States. He finds
disturbing and hateful words from Jewish leaders, such as Ariel
Sharon, which openly support genocide, and he reveals quotations from
Israeli leaders who equate Zionism and Nazism. Of course, he also
cites many prominent Gentiles of historical and contemporary times,
but the Jewish quotations and sources have the greatest power.
Frankly, they are so convincing that Jewish leaders have sought to get
the book banned in many nations.
Interestingly, Jewish Supremacism was published first in Russia, the
same nation that gave birth to The Protocols of Zion. In 2000 it
quickly became a best seller throughout the entirety of the former
Eastern bloc. It even sells briskly in the corridors of the Russian
Duma (Parliament) and has prompted Levinsky, Goldman and other leading
Jews to seek its ban under old Soviet laws forbidding 'anti-Semitism'.
In the Autumn of 2000, Levinsky and others filed a formal complaint to
the Russian Prosecutor General and asked for the book to be classified
as anti-Semitic and thus illegal. After a year of close examination
(they painstakingly verified all 669 of the documentations), the
Russian Government shocked the Jewish community by officially
declaring that the book is not anti-Semitic. Jewish members of the
Duma then introduced new legislation aimed at outlawing 'Jewish
Supremacism', but it failed by a few votes.
Since then, the book has been sold in thousands of street corners
across the breadth of the Russian Federation and has now topped an
incredible 500,000 in print.
Translated into most of the Eastern European languages, the book has
won Duke many academic awards for its scholarship, including an
honorary Doctorate awarded by President's University, the second
largest university in the nation of Ukraine.
Subsequently the university itself published a best-selling Ukrainian
edition. In May of 2003, Free Speech Press published the English
version of Jewish Supremacism, accompanied by a storm of interest and
controversy. Jewish leaders are horrified that it is well on its way
to becoming the best-read book in the world on Zionism.
SMEARS BACKFIRED
Although Zionist organisations have tried to use Duke's media
characterisation as a 'white supremacist' to discredit his book, so
far their exploitation of his early-life involvement in a KKK group
has only backfired by making the book and its author more newsworthy.
Attacks by the ADL and other pro-Zionist groups have led to
sensationalist news coverage, causing even greater interest and
confounding those who desperately wanted Duke's book to die a quiet
death.
David Duke decries the label of white supremacist and says that while
he certainly desires the preservation of his own heritage he seeks no
supremacy over others. He maintains that those who scream most
hatefully against him are themselves guilty of the most extreme and
powerful supremacism on earth: Jewish supremacism.
When Duke lectured in some Persian Gulf nations last year, Zionist
leaders attempted to undercut his support by allegations of 'racism'.
Those organised efforts had little affect on the overflow, mixed-race
audiences that cheered almost his every word. As a former university
professor and a writer who has lectured occasionally on behalf of the
people of Palestine, I approached David Duke's book out of a curiosity
elicited by the intense Zionist efforts to suppress it. Actually, I
had readily accepted the negative portrayals of him I had read in the
Jewish press, but I wanted to see what all the commotion was about.
Why were they so anxious to ban this book and slander its author? To
my great surprise I discovered a most amazing book!
David Duke stated that he had set out with the ambitious goal of
writing the most powerful expose of Zionism ever put into print. With
extreme scepticism of his ability to accomplish such a lofty goal, I
began to read. Three days later, as I turned the last page, I knew
that he had accomplished more than he dreamed. Rather than just
assembling his facts in a dry textbook fashion, David Duke presents
his thesis in the first person. It is the personal narrative of a
thoughtful and enlightened young man who is sympathetic to Zionism,
but is awakened to its supremacist core that not only threatens the
Palestinians but his own beloved European-Americans as well. I could
not find even a trace of hatred, intemperance or true anti-Semitism in
this book. However, by extensive quoting of important Jewish leaders
and Zionist source materials, Duke exposes a deep well of Jewish
supremacist hatred against Gentiles. He points out that one is
unfairly labelled an 'anti-Semite' simply for exposing the hateful
pronouncements of Jewish supremacists.
ABSOLVES SOME JEWS
The book is clearly not anti-Semitic. Duke goes at length to point out
that not all Jews are supremacists, and that the supremacists not only
endanger the Gentile world but threaten innocent Jews by exposing them
to an inevitably hostile Gentile reaction. The book is in fact
dedicated to the late Dr. Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor and
Israeli peace activist whose life was dedicated to saving both Jews
and Gentiles from the dangers of 'Jewish supremacism'. David Duke
cleverly turns the term 'anti-Semitic' on its head by quoting
columnist Joseph Sobran's remark that the 'anti-Semite' is no longer
someone who dislikes Jews; he is now simply a person whom the Jews
don't like.
Jewish Supremacism begins with David Duke's first great epiphany on
the Jewish question: his learning that the Russian Revolution wasn't
Russian but overwhelmingly Jewish. Using powerful documentary
evidence, he shows that the Bolshevik Revolution was actually financed
and led by Jews who had their own agenda against the Czar. He quotes
from familiar and impeccable sources such as Winston Churchill, the
dispatches of the American ambassador to Russia, the chief of British
Intelligence and copious Jewish sources. For instance, he quotes a
report from the National Archives of the United States showing that of
the 384 members of the first Bolshevik government, there were more
than 300 Jews and only 13 ethnic Russians.
How could such an enormous fact of history be hidden? Duke asks. His
rhetorical question is answered throughout the rest of this book by
giving the clear evidence of the tremendous power exercised by Jewish
supremacists in government, media and the academic establishment. Not
only has the pre-eminent Jewish role in the Bolshevik Revolution and
its Gulags been quietly suppressed, but also even the very existence
of Jewish supremacism has been kept from public awareness. One can
freely discuss the evils of white supremacism, but if one dares to
expose Jewish supremacism, one will assuredly be labelled an
'anti-Semite', the ultimate term of opprobrium in modern society. In
very effective arguments, Duke points out that one is not called
'anti-Christian' for exposing the excesses of the Inquisition or
'anti-Muslim' for opposing the intolerance of some extremist Moslem
sects. But dare simply to quote the hateful statements of important
leaders of Judaism and Zionism, and in many countries one could well
wind up in prison for 'hate speech'.
One of the fascinating themes to which David Duke repeatedly turns is
the easily documented Jewish supremacist strategy of fostering extreme
chauvinism among their own people while at the same time working to
break down the group loyalty of the Gentiles among whom they live.
Jewish leaders have long made clear that Jewish communities often have
agendas that conflict with their Gentile hosts. Duke describes the
struggle over those agendas as similar to the contest of two football
teams. One team cultivates an extreme group loyalty through a chronic
recital of Gentile persecution and an accompanying 'chosen-people'
supremacist vision. The other is instilled with guilt and the idea
that teamwork is immoral. The main Jewish holidays are dominated by
the recounting of Gentile persecutions, and the Holocaust has now
achieved almost a religious significance in Jewish life. Duke quotes
many Jewish leaders proclaiming Jewish superiority and the need for
the race to preserve its racial genotype. Even today, Israel will
grant instant citizenship to an atheist Jew from New York, but forbids
Palestinians who were born in Israel to return. Israel also forbids
marriages between Jews and Gentiles.
While Jewish supremacists have these supremacist policies for their
own people, they relentlessly work to break down the immigration laws
of other nations. While they preach multi-culturalism and diversity
for almost every other country in which they dwell, they themselves
support and expect Americans to support a Zionist State, dedicated
exclusively to the Jewish people, religion and culture.
INFLUENCE ON MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT
In chapters on Jewish influence over the American mass media and
government, Duke offers extensive documentation that exceeds almost
anyone's suspicions. Major Jewish sources are quoted which boast of
their takeover and control of Hollywood, the news media and the most
sensitive part of the Government of the United States. For instance,
Duke quotes a major Israeli newspaper bragging about the fact that
Jews loyal to Israel make up seven out of the eleven members of the
secretive and sensitive National Security Council (NSC). The article
goes on to assert that "America no longer has a government of Goyim"
(Gentiles). Duke also quotes many US presidents and high government
officials who have dared to speak out about the Jewish supremacy over
the establishment. After thoroughly documenting Jewish supremacy in
government and media, he shows how their media power is used to stifle
public knowledge and understanding of this critical issue. Any
legitimate criticism of Jewish Supremacism is labelled
'anti-Semitism', and the Jewish supremacists almost exclusively define
that term.
In particularly interesting passages, Duke recounts how that when he
looked up the term 'anti-Semitism' in some popular encyclopaedias, he
found that the articles and recommended reading lists were authored
entirely by Jewish zealots! In every conflict with Gentiles, Jews are
always portrayed as completely innocent while Gentiles are portrayed
as totally evil. Duke suggests that the chronic portrayal of Gentiles
as inherently evil toward Jews is for Gentiles the equivalent of
'blood libel' for Jews.
Duke makes a compelling case that the nation of Israel is the doctrine
of Jewish supremacism put into action. In startling documentary
evidence from Israel, he shows that some of the early Zionist founders
of the country readily co-operated with Nazi Germany, praised Nazi
policies and claimed that their own ideology was similar. He also
quotes major Jewish figures in Israel who have had the courage to
condemn Israel's Nuremberg style racial laws, such as former Israeli
Supreme Court member Haim Cohen, thus:-
'The bitter irony of fate, which has led the same biological and
racist laws propagated by the Nazis and which inspired the infamous
Nuremberg laws to serve as a basis of Judaism within the state of
Israel.'
With these kinds of powerful quotes, it is no wonder that Zionists
around the world are extremely fearful of this book.
ON ISRAELI TERROR
Americans will find the last chapter on Israel of particular interest.
Duke unveils the long Israeli record of terrorism. He documents the
horrendous terror waged against the Palestinians; he also exposes
Israel's long record of terrorism and treachery against its greatest
benefactor, the United States! From major Jewish sources, he recounts
the Israeli terrorist attacks against America in the Lavon Affair, in
which Israeli agents set off bombs in American installations in Egypt
in a treacherous attempt to provoke America into war against that
nation. Duke presents copious evidence exposing the deliberate,
murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 Americans were
killed and 172 grievously wounded. The terrible damage inflicted on
the United States by Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard is also recounted.
Jewish supremacy in the American media and government has suppressed
any outcry against Israel's treachery. The Jewish supremacists have
even been able to prevent a formal Congressional investigation into
the attack on the USS Liberty. Duke makes the powerful point that
billions of dollars of American aid continue to flow to Israel even
after its treacherous attacks. He writes that supplying this aid is
the moral equivalent of sending military aid to Japan after the attack
on Pearl Harbour.
Duke also shows how the Zionist domination of American foreign policy
led directly to America's 9/11 catastrophe and a whole new series of
foreign policy moves that are leading to disaster. This timely book
shows the Jewish supremacist power behind the Iraq War, the
manipulation of the President and the American people with false
information, and the horrendous damage the war has done to our economy
and even our security. Duke shows how the war is costing us hundreds
of billions of dollars, continues to spill the blood of our military
men and certainly increases world hatred and terrorism against
America.
In one of the most shocking chapters of his work, Duke reveals the
damning evidence of Israeli treachery in the 9/11 attacks. He shows
that a massive Israeli spy ring was uncovered and apprehended in the
months before and after the attacks, and that some of the Mossad
agents had actually monitored the hijackers, including the leader
Mohammed Atta (five Israeli agents lived on his street). Warning
messages of the impending attacks were sent to Israeli firms with
offices both in Israel and the World Trade Centre. A group of Mossad
agents was arrested on 9/11 after they were found to have been filming
and cheering the attacks while they occurred. After they had been held
for a few months, Zionist Michael Chertoff of the US Department of
Justice released all the members of the Israeli spy ring and allowed
them to return to Israel - out of the reach of Congressional 9/11
investigators.
It is impossible to give the reader more than a glance into the depth
and power of this incredible book. Practically every paragraph is a
revelation. There is so much more that I could write about: detailing
how the Holocaust has cynically been used as a Zionist tool in
heightening Jewish solidarity and deflating criticism of Zionism and
Israel; how Jewish supremacists have used immigration as a weapon of
conquest, not only in Palestine but in the Western World as well. I
was fascinated by Duke's expose of Sigmund Freud as a secret Jewish
supremacist who thought of himself as a Hannibal destroying the
foundations of the Christian church and the European family as
Hannibal had sacked Rome. I could go on and on, but I will leave these
discoveries to you when you read this amazing book.
After I completed the book, I wanted to find out if it had the same
affect on others as it had on me. I gave it to two long-time friends
at the university where I taught for 11 years. One has conservative
leanings; the other is decidedly liberal; and I would describe both of
them as sympathetic to Israel. Both were so fascinated that they could
hardly put the book down, and one became so engrossed that he missed
his regular two o'clock class. They both agreed that Duke's book is
one of the best-argued that they have ever read, and used the
identical term of 'amazing' to describe it. My conservative friend
commented that many quotations were so shocking that he began to check
out the references and found them all to be accurate. "Hell" he said,
"If only half the documents Duke cites are authentic, there is enough
evidence here to start a revolution."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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Exposing the Real Racists
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