Religions > Atheism > Hmm... I Wonder Where the Nazis Got Their Anti-Semitism From?
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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23 May 2006 02:55:30 AM |
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Hmm... I Wonder Where the Nazis Got Their Anti-Semitism From? |
On Tue, 23 May 2006 07:01:10 GMT, Respecting all cultures
<rsgfynjdxjjys@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
Or this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_anti-Semitism
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
The Synod of Clermont (Franks),
535 CE, prohibited Jews from holding public office.
Nazi Germany,
1935 CE - Prohibited Jews from holding public office.
The 12th Synod of Toledo (Spain),
681 CE,
ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
Nazi Germany -
Ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
In 692,
the Trulanic Synod forbade Christians to go to Jewish doctors,
attend Jewish religious feasts or have friendly relations with Jews.
Nazi Germany -
The Nuremberg laws forbade people to go to Jewish doctors
The Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, forced Jews to wear a distinctive
badge on their clothing. Pope Paul IV, in 1555, issues a papal bull
forcing Jews to wear yellow hats; this same papal bull confines Jews
to ghettos, and bans them from working in most professions.
Nazi Germany adopted every one of these laws in 1939; the only change
was that the yellow hat was changed to a yellow star.
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23 May 2006 11:22:41 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
Are you kidding? Anti-Semitism dates back to Pagan times!
The Roman Emperor Hardian, for example, was no fan of the
Jews:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=47&letter=H
But even before him, the Emperor Nero wasn't at all pleased
with the Jews:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Jewish_Revolt
But even before Nero was born, starting before the first century,
the Jews had already won Roman scorn:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Romans.html
It's very simple. Ancient Palestine did not want to be ruled from
Rome, and its hard liners violently rejected Hellenistic culture.
This lead to wide spread displeasure amongst the Jews, and
frequent rebellions. More than anything, the Romans demanded
order, and that's something the Jews kept denying them.
Still, if was a "Hellenistic World," and the troubles with (contempt
for) Jews started even before the Romans with the Greek rulers.
http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/topics/judea.html
That gets us to more than 100 years prior to Roman times, and
already the centers of western civilization (in this case the Greeks)
had nothing good to say about the Jews. They were a people
who kept rejecting the imposition of foreign rule & culture when
the imposing parties saw themselves (and their own culture/religion)
as superior, as a gift which the Jews should have thanked them
for.
These are the roots of Anti-Semitism.
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23 May 2006 07:21:53 PM |
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"It is rather surprising is it not? That which ever way you turn to
trace the harmful streams of influence that flow through society, you
come upon a group of Jews. In sports corruption, a group of Jews. In
exploiting finance, a group of Jews. In theatrical degeneracy, a group
of Jews. In liquor propaganda, a group of Jews. Absolutely dominating
the wireless communications of the world, a group of Jews. The menace
of the movies, a group of Jews. In control of the press through
business and financial pressure, a group of Jews. War profiteers, 80
percent of them, Jews. The mezmia of so-called popular music, which
combines weak mindedness, with every suggestion of lewdness, Jews.
Organizations of anti-Christian laws and customs, again Jews. It is
time to show that the cry of bigot is raised mostly by bigots. There
is a religious prejudice in this country; there is, indeed, a
religious persecution, there is a forcible shoving aside of the
religious liberties of the majority of the people. And this prejudice
and persecution and use of force, is Jewish and nothing but Jewish. If
it is anti-Semitism to say that Communism in the United States is
Jewish, so be it. But to the unprejudiced mind it will look very much
like Americanism. Communism all over the world and not only in Russia
is Jewish."
(International Jew, by Henry Ford, 1922)
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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| User: "johns" |
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23 May 2006 12:20:08 PM |
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The best book ever written on this subject is, "The Making
Of The Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes. In that book,
Rhodes details the economic advantage that the Jewish
system of educating their young gave them over all other
cultures. That part of the world had the first libraries, the
first trade schools, the first universities .. while the rest
of the world remained pagan bronze age hunter-gatherers.
The Jews were 500 years ahead of the rest of the world
in their economic development. And the rest of the world
was jealous. THAT is anti-semitism. Rhodes details
how countries all over the world enacted affirmative
action laws stating that Jews had to balance jobs and
education in proportion to any other ethnic group within
a nation .... including the United States before WWII.
THAT is how anti-semitism became world wide. The
big mistake the Jews made around the world was to
ally themselves with Kings and Queens and any
Ruling Class as their Mentors and Economic advisors.
The Jews kept these ruling classes in power at the
expense of a rapidly developing Industrial Age Middle
Class .. and, as a result, were viewed as holding back
the development of a decent and fair standard of living
of the Working Class people of those times. All of
the Big Revolutions .. Russia, Germany, France, and
the United States .. included a policy of de-throning
this Jewish Aristocracy along with eliminating the
rule of Kings. The country, Poland, was not a country
at all. It was a Jewish Reservation, and all over Europe,
Jews were told that they were no longer citizens of
European countries, and they would have to move to
the reservations in Poland. 20 million Jews moved
there. At the same time, those countries enforced
ethnic balance in the job market and at the Universities.
Nearly all Jewish Professionals were laid off from their
jobs. Very few of them were allowed to emigrate to
the USA ... until there was a serious threat that the
Germans would get the BOMB ... and then they
came. If Hitler had not enforced an archaic policy
of affirmative action in ethnic balancing in the job
market, his Jewish Scientists and Engineers would
have given him the Atomic Bomb .. and he would
have won WWII. Instead, the USA finally relented
on this same policy .. under British demands ...
and we became the dominant world power. Read
the book. It is the most important book written in
the last century.
johns
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| User: "Topaz" |
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23 May 2006 07:22:51 PM |
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Here is a quote from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."
The money system we have today is called the debt-money
system. It is evil and needs to be replaced. The only way money comes
into existence today is when it is borrowed. There is no freely
existing money supply, but only borrowed money that needs to be paid
back to bankers with interest. If all the money that was owed to
bankers was ever paid back there would be no money left in circulation
and this would be a great depression. What makes matters even worse is
that when money is created only the principle of the loan is created.
The money needed to pay the interest is never created. For this reason
it is impossible to pay back the principle plus the interest on all of
the loans that make up our money supply. The extra amount of money
needed to pay the interest was never created and does not exist.
The United States government borrows money from the Federal
Reserve Bank. This bank is not federal but owned by private
stockholders. It is in the business section of the phone book, not the
government section. Other banks also create the money in our money
supply. They are allowed to loan out much more money then they
actually have. Thus they create new money. No one else is allowed to
create money, only bankers have this privilege. All of our money is
debt-money and it is all owed back to bankers, plus the interest.
In the U.S.A. money is created by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing which is a unit of the treasury, but the orders to print come
from the Federal Reserve Banks. The money is created for and owned by
the banks. And the Federal Reserve Banks are not Federal, in spite of
the name. Privately owned commercial banks own the stock of the
Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Banks give the newly
created money to the government in exchange for government bonds. To
simplify: The United States does not make its own money. Bankers
create the money and loan it to the United States with an interest
charge.
The book War Cycles Peace Cycles puts it this way:
"If there is only $10 in existence, and you lend it to someone
under the condition that he repay $11, and if he agrees to this, he
has agreed to the impossible."
The book The Struggle for World Power put it this way:
"The Bank of England... was the first payment institution which
was legally empowered to issue state-authorized paper currency and ,
therefore, the Government itself became its debtor. Thus the State not
only renounced its monopoly on monetary emission, but also agreed to
borrow the privately-created money from the bankers...Not only the
thing being done, but even the very name was a deliberate fraud and
deception to conceal the essence of the deed. To create money out of
nothing is to make valid and effective claim on all goods and services
for no return, which is fraud and theft, made worse by the
circumstances that the money is lent out at interest...it follows that
those who have the power to 'create' out of nothing all the money in
each country and the whole world and lend it as stated, have total
power over all states, parties, firms, radio, press, individuals and
so on. Therefore the power of Parliament in general, and especially
with regard to money, is non-existent, and all the true sovereignty is
in the hands of those private individuals who issue all money"
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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| User: "JTEM" |
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23 May 2006 02:18:34 PM |
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"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote
The best book ever written on this subject is, "The Making
Of The Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes. In that book,
Rhodes details the economic advantage that the Jewish
system of educating their young gave them over all other
cultures. That part of the world had the first libraries, the
first trade schools, the first universities .. while the rest
of the world remained pagan bronze age hunter-gatherers.
Hardly accurate. But I'm not one to argue with someone who
isn't here. So, if you have adopted this author's position,
please take this as an invitation to support your claim. If not,
I guess it's safe to dismiss it as hogwash.
As far as history goes, there isn't a vacuum to fill, and there
never has been. The middle east is a highway between
three continents. What didn't travel by water traveled by
land, and it traveled through the middle east. It was a
virtual gold mine, a jewel for any crown, and the only
drawback was a people who absolutely-positively
rejected Hellenistic influences & foreign rule, while insisting
on frequent rebellions. Neither the Greeks nor the Romans
had much (if any) respect for foreign cultures to begin with,
while the Romans in particular were notorious for their
hatred of anything but peaceful obedience to Roman
authority.
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| User: "johns" |
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23 May 2006 04:58:52 PM |
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Pure ignorance. Why do you think the Suez canal
was built? Try getting an education instead of spouting
your own opinions derived out of comic books and
the Readers Digest. King Solomon's trade routes
and shipping was the beginning of civilized culture.
He pre-dated the Greeks by centuries, and that
pre-dated the Romans. That's just High School
stuff. What's your problem? Just plain stupid ?
johns
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| User: "JTEM" |
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23 May 2006 09:55:32 PM |
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"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote
Pure ignorance.
Thanks for the warning.
Why do you think the Suez canal
was built?
And you mistakenly believe this has WHAT to do with
the origins of Anti-Semitism?
Seriously, you dumb twat. Even if I couldn't point to
Anti-Semitism already becoming institutionalized more
than 2,000 years before the Suez Canal was built,
it would still be entirely irrelevant absent *Any*
demonstrated basis for a link to the topic coming from
you.
If you mistakenly believe that you've got a case to be
made then, by all means, make it.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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23 May 2006 10:04:14 PM |
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"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote
Pure ignorance. Why do you think the Suez canal
was built? Try getting an education instead of spouting
your own opinions derived out of comic books and
the Readers Digest. King Solomon's trade routes
and shipping was the beginning of civilized culture.
He pre-dated the Greeks by centuries, and that
pre-dated the Romans. That's just High School
stuff. What's your problem? Just plain stupid ?
johns
Either he's a hacker bouncing off of someone's server
(in which case a complaint to the admin should close
down his access), or he's misusing educational resources
in a way that clearly VIOLATES stated school policy.
What am I talking about?
Trace his I.P. address (129.101.54.72) and you get:
Whois: [Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
OrgName: University of Idaho
OrgID: UNIVER-258
Address: UI Networks & Systems Admin. Bldg, Rm 140
City: Moscow
StateProv: ID
PostalCode: 83844
Country: US
NetRange: 129.101.0.0 - 129.101.255.255
CIDR: 129.101.0.0/16
NetName: UIDAHO
NetHandle: NET-129-101-0-0-1
Parent: NET-129-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS1.UIDAHO.EDU
NameServer: DNS2.UIDAHO.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1988-06-13
Updated: 1998-09-11
RTechHandle: HL16-ARIN
RTechName: Leidenfrost, Huba
RTechPhone: +1-208-885-6721
RTechEmail:
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-05-23 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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| User: "Rick" |
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24 May 2006 10:07:44 PM |
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JTEM wrote in message ...
"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote
Pure ignorance. Why do you think the Suez canal
was built? Try getting an education instead of spouting
your own opinions derived out of comic books and
the Readers Digest. King Solomon's trade routes
and shipping was the beginning of civilized culture.
He pre-dated the Greeks by centuries, and that
pre-dated the Romans. That's just High School
stuff. What's your problem? Just plain stupid ?
johns
Either he's a hacker bouncing off of someone's server
(in which case a complaint to the admin should close
down his access), or he's misusing educational resources
in a way that clearly VIOLATES stated school policy.
What am I talking about?
Trace his I.P. address (129.101.54.72) and you get:
[snip]
What part of school policy is he violating?
Hey johns, do think JTEM will have much success filing a complaint with the
admin?
:^)
Sorry JTEM... I know of johns from the figure skating NG. Maybe you *should*
file a complaint. It will put a smile on johns' face when he, the admin,
gets the complaint.
- Rick
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| User: "bam" |
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23 May 2006 02:58:30 PM |
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The reason the Germans hated Jews especially during the aftermath of WWI was
because (not all the Jews) but *some* Jews sold out the nation of Germany,
causing Germany to lose the war. At least that's what an allegedly ex Jewish
Zionist, Benjamin Friedman said:
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm
BAM
"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote in message
news:1148404808.191247.300500@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
The best book ever written on this subject is, "The Making
Of The Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes. In that book,
Rhodes details the economic advantage that the Jewish
system of educating their young gave them over all other
cultures. That part of the world had the first libraries, the
first trade schools, the first universities .. while the rest
of the world remained pagan bronze age hunter-gatherers.
The Jews were 500 years ahead of the rest of the world
in their economic development. And the rest of the world
was jealous. THAT is anti-semitism. Rhodes details
how countries all over the world enacted affirmative
action laws stating that Jews had to balance jobs and
education in proportion to any other ethnic group within
a nation .... including the United States before WWII.
THAT is how anti-semitism became world wide. The
big mistake the Jews made around the world was to
ally themselves with Kings and Queens and any
Ruling Class as their Mentors and Economic advisors.
The Jews kept these ruling classes in power at the
expense of a rapidly developing Industrial Age Middle
Class .. and, as a result, were viewed as holding back
the development of a decent and fair standard of living
of the Working Class people of those times. All of
the Big Revolutions .. Russia, Germany, France, and
the United States .. included a policy of de-throning
this Jewish Aristocracy along with eliminating the
rule of Kings. The country, Poland, was not a country
at all. It was a Jewish Reservation, and all over Europe,
Jews were told that they were no longer citizens of
European countries, and they would have to move to
the reservations in Poland. 20 million Jews moved
there. At the same time, those countries enforced
ethnic balance in the job market and at the Universities.
Nearly all Jewish Professionals were laid off from their
jobs. Very few of them were allowed to emigrate to
the USA ... until there was a serious threat that the
Germans would get the BOMB ... and then they
came. If Hitler had not enforced an archaic policy
of affirmative action in ethnic balancing in the job
market, his Jewish Scientists and Engineers would
have given him the Atomic Bomb .. and he would
have won WWII. Instead, the USA finally relented
on this same policy .. under British demands ...
and we became the dominant world power. Read
the book. It is the most important book written in
the last century.
johns
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23 May 2006 05:20:54 PM |
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You are right, but you don't go far enough. In Rhodes book,
he describes how the Jews over all of Europe had established
a Banking and Trade system that made them allies regardless
of where they were located. That meant local governments
..... ALL LOCAL governments ... saw the Jews as undermining
any political or military alliances the local Royalty had made.
For that reason, the Jews were given the choice of leaving
the coutries where they lived, or supporting local Royal
Families. The Jews had no choice. They became a reluctant
Aristocracy of teachers and mentors to royal families. From
the 1400s on, the developing Middle Class hated them because
the Jews were their bosses in the workplace. This attitude
even extended to the USA where WE also had affirmative
action policies for fair practice in ethnic balancing. The Germans
were not alone in this practice. One of the most dramatic
examples of this was Marie Curie, herself, in France. She
was fired from her job at the University ... an act of ethnic
balancing ... because somebody in France thought she had
Jewish relatives .. and were wrong. Marie Curie discovered
the slow Neutron ... the trigger for the ABOMB !!!!!! And
then she was banned by the French from continuing her
studies at the University there. Neils Bhor realized what
she had discovered and published it. The Germans jumped
on that, and claimed credit for discovering the neutron ..
and even got the Nobel Prize .. given to the grad student
of a Professor who had been hanging around Marie Curies
research lab. Bhor and the Curies understood the danger
..... the Germans now had the potential for the BOMB.
And THEY brought out the alienated Jewish Scientists
.... like Albert Einstein and the discoverer of the HBOMB
who was already working on it. The USA treated those
Jews like they were the enemy, and kept them under
house arrest during most of WWII. Even the guy who
built the BOMB for us was suspected of espionage
because of his Jewish heritage. Read the book.
johns
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23 May 2006 03:21:18 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
The Synod of Clermont (Franks), 535 CE,
The 12th Synod of Toledo (Spain), 681 CE,
In 692,
The Fourth Lateran Council, 1215,
badge on their clothing. Pope Paul IV, in 1555,
Yes, you can go back in most cases over a thousand years to dredge up
examples of the church taking action against Jews.
Or you can look at the Kulturkampf under Bismarck.
Which do you think is likely to have been the stronger influence?
--
www.lulu.com/bgy1mm
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| User: "johns" |
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23 May 2006 05:23:45 PM |
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Bismark ... affirmative action LAWS in place to
create ethnic balance in the workplace so the
non-Jewish children of Europe could catch up
and compete fairly in the Universites and on their
jobs. Read the book.
johns
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| User: "bam" |
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23 May 2006 02:52:27 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 07:01:10 GMT, Respecting all cultures
<rsgfynjdxjjys@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
Or this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_anti-Semitism
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
The Synod of Clermont (Franks),
535 CE, prohibited Jews from holding public office.
Nazi Germany,
1935 CE - Prohibited Jews from holding public office.
The 12th Synod of Toledo (Spain),
681 CE,
ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
Nazi Germany -
Ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
In 692,
the Trulanic Synod forbade Christians to go to Jewish doctors,
attend Jewish religious feasts or have friendly relations with Jews.
Nazi Germany -
The Nuremberg laws forbade people to go to Jewish doctors
The Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, forced Jews to wear a distinctive
badge on their clothing. Pope Paul IV, in 1555, issues a papal bull
forcing Jews to wear yellow hats; this same papal bull confines Jews
to ghettos, and bans them from working in most professions.
Nazi Germany adopted every one of these laws in 1939; the only change
was that the yellow hat was changed to a yellow star.
And why did the Romans tear down the Jewish temple and kill every Jew, man
woman and child that they could get hold of?
And why do the Arabs hate them?
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in Israel?
BAM
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| User: "Jeff White" |
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23 May 2006 03:11:25 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in Israel?
nothing: there are churches in israel.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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24 May 2006 09:53:03 AM |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:27 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:cqf572df69ti0n1626v3cbui4055lh1oe9@4ax.com...
On Tue, 23 May 2006 07:01:10 GMT, Respecting all cultures
<rsgfynjdxjjys@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
Or this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_anti-Semitism
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
The Synod of Clermont (Franks),
535 CE, prohibited Jews from holding public office.
Nazi Germany,
1935 CE - Prohibited Jews from holding public office.
The 12th Synod of Toledo (Spain),
681 CE,
ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
Nazi Germany -
Ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
In 692,
the Trulanic Synod forbade Christians to go to Jewish doctors,
attend Jewish religious feasts or have friendly relations with Jews.
Nazi Germany -
The Nuremberg laws forbade people to go to Jewish doctors
The Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, forced Jews to wear a distinctive
badge on their clothing. Pope Paul IV, in 1555, issues a papal bull
forcing Jews to wear yellow hats; this same papal bull confines Jews
to ghettos, and bans them from working in most professions.
Nazi Germany adopted every one of these laws in 1939; the only change
was that the yellow hat was changed to a yellow star.
And why did the Romans tear down the Jewish temple and kill every Jew, man
woman and child that they could get hold of?
Romans did not kill every Jews "they can get hold of", judging by the
fact that there WERE JEWS in the Roman Empire.
And why do the Arabs hate them?
Did they put Jews in concentration camps like the Christians?
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in Israel?
Nothing. There aer Christian churches in Israel. Why are you making
***** up?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2456 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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24 May 2006 12:02:57 PM |
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" . .for you suffered like things of your own countrymen as they did
from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and
drove us out and displease God, and oppose all men. . . But God's
wrath has come upon them at last. (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16)
Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
instead of giving heed to Jewish myths or to commands of men who
reject the truth. (Titus1:13-14)
In fact the greatest Jewish myth today is that somehow the Jewish
people who accept the anti-Christian hatred of Judaism are still
Chosen of God.
In fact, for the writing such as these, the New Testament has long
been hated and called anti-Semitic by the Jews. In Israel, there have
been public burnings of the New Testament. Zionists publicly and
ceremoniously burned hundreds of copies of the New Testament in
Jerusalem on March 23, 1980. They were destroyed under the auspices of
Yad Le'akhim, a Jewish religious organization subsidized by the
Israeli Ministry of Religions.
In Israeli government-financed schools it is illegal to even quote
from the very much hated New Testament. Is it ironic to think that
some of the Christian money that goes to Israel has helped finance the
burning of the New Testament! There are Jewish groups all over the
world that are working to actually change the New Testament and take
out the verses that offend them. Jewish pressure has already caused
changes in the famous Passion Play. Biblical versus that Jews don't
like were taken out.
The term Judeo-Christian, a term never used in the United States until
after the Second World War, (again coinciding with the rise of Jewish
power) is a completely ridiculous term, for Judaism and Christianity
are polar opposites in principle and belief. Christianity celebrates,
forgiveness and love, Judaism honors vengeance and hate. In fact,
Judaism is viciously hateful toward Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary.
In fact the Talmud claims that the Jewish priests not the Romans
crucified Christ.
Here are some quotes from the chief Jewish religious text, the Talmud.
* Balaam [Jesus] fornicated with his jackass. (Sanhedrin 105a-b)
* Balaam [Jesus] is raised from the dead and being punished in
boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and
sin against Israel are boiled in hot excrement. (57a Gittin)
* She who was the descendant of princes and governors [The Virgin
Mary] played the harlot with a carpenter (Sanhedrin 106a)
* [Jesus] was lowered into a pit of dung up to his armpits. Then a
hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound round his neck, and the
two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead. (Sanhedrin
52b) Also, it says they gave him four different executions in
Sanhedrin 106a.
Masters of deceit, some Jews will claim that Balaam was not a derisive
name Jews used for Jesus. But, in The Jewish Encyclopedia, under the
heading "Balaam," it clearly says quote "…the pseudonym 'Balaam' given
to Jesus in Sanhedrin 106b and Gittin 57a."
It is ironic that the Muslim faith is presented as anti-Christian, yet
Moslems honor Christ and the Virgin Mary. For instance, although the
Koran views Christ as a great prophet rather than savior, it says Mary
was a virtuous woman and God had fathered her son, Jesus. It also says
that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. The Koran, like the New
Testament, suggests that the Jews had a covenant with God that they
broke and that God then offered a new covenant to all believers. It
condemns the Talmud's assertion that Mary was a ***** and disputes the
Talmud's boast that Jews themselves murdered Jesus Christ rather than
the Romans at their behest. Here a couple of quotes from the Qur'an.
They (Jews) have incurred divine displeasure: in that they broke the
covenant… And little is it they believe.
That they rejected faith and they uttered against Mary a grave false
charge…
That they said (in boast) "we killed Christ Jesus, the son of Mary,
the messenger of Allah- but they killed him not, nor crucified him.
But so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are
full of doubts…
(Sura 4 AlNisa 153- 159)
It is in the interest of Jewish Supremacists to paint the Moslems as
vicious enemies of Christ, but the Qur'an states a quite mild view of
Christians as compared to Jews.
Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews
and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou
find those who say "we are Christians": Because amongst these are men
devoted to learning and men who renounced the world, and they are not
arrogant. (Sura 5 Al-Ma'idah "5-82)
It is in the interest of Jewish Supremacists to paint the Moslems as
vicious enemies of Christ, but the Qur'an states a quite mild view of
Christians as compared to Jews. If you would like a more in depth look
into the extreme anti-Christian attitudes of Judaism please read my
book entitled Jewish Supremacism and you can go this website to My
Awakening and read the chapter on Christianity, Judaism and Race.
There is a wealth of information in these books and invite you check
out my sources for yourself. Shocking as they may be, you will find
them meticulously accurate and authentic.
Because of Jewish supremacy in the press, we simply don't get the real
view of the world. We get the view the Jewish supremacists want us to
see. It is unbelievable that they even altered some of the most basic
tenants of the Christian faith, and they have too many Christians
listening to the Jewish interpretations of the New Testament rather
than its own clear words on the subject.
As a Christian it pains me that so many who profess to be Christians
have supported the horrible crimes inflicted on the Palestinians, many
of whom are our fellow Christians. These so called Christians reject
the love and compassion of Christ in the same ways they Jews have for
2000 years rejected his message of peace and reconciliation. They have
even allowed the Jewish supremacist, Christ-haters to twist the words
of our own Holy Bible because they know that that the Jewish
broadcasting moguls would pull the plug if they dared to tell the real
Christian view of Jewish supremacism.
How long will American Christians continue to support the Anti-Christ
of Jewish Supremacism?
It reminds of the one of the most often repeated phrases in the New
Testament: "fear of the Jews," as expressed in John 7:13
Yet for fear of the Jews no one spoke openly of him (John 7:13)
Recently it was revealed that Billy Graham in conversations with
President Nixon said that the Jewish stranglehold on the American
media was destroying our country. Must their stranglehold destroy the
basic tenants of our Christian faith as well? Even Graham and Nixon
dared not speak openly about the Jewish stranglehold on our country.
It is simply amazing to me that some fundamentalist Christians have
been fooled into aligning themselves with anti-Christian Jews, the
very same forces that stand against everything that Christians stand
for in America.
The same pro-Israel, Jewish supremacist mass media and Hollywood
establishment that Graham railed against with Nixon in private, is the
same one that continually attacks and ridicules Christianity and
Christian ethics. The same Jewish media that supports Israel supports
abortion, something that almost all fundamentalist Christians oppose.
The Jewish supremacists must have a good laugh as they get the money
and support from people who they ridicule and debase in their mass
media. That same Jewish media supports radical feminism and blatant
homosexuality. That same Jewish media that supports unlimited Third
World immigration in America, supports the Jews Only Israeli policy.
When will the blind Christians wake up?
Is it Moslems in the American media who are destroying Christian
ethics? As Billy Graham said it is the Jewish stranglehold on media
that is doing that. The truth is that devout Moslems have the same
opinion toward abortion, homosexuality, feminism and other moral
issues as the fundamentalist Christians, but in the ultimate con job,
the Jews have got the Christians busily defending them and hating the
Moslems. They have even got Christians supporting the Jewish murder
and ethnic cleansing of their fellow Christian Palestinians.
Although I respect all religions and the right of every man or woman
to believe or not believe according to their own intellect and
conscience, I am a Christian.
I am a Christian who defends my faith and my fellow Christians. It is
not Moslems who have led the fight to remove even Christmas carols
from American schools. I have not and will not sell my soul to the
Jews for their thirty pieces of silver. To do so I must oppose the
evil of Israel. I will not let quote "fear of the Jews" stop me from
telling and spreading the truth. The same evil that is destroying the
Palestinian nation is destroying the American nation. The time has
come to stand up for the truth. Again, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth!
Won't you join me?
Christians, Moslems, anyone of any faith who loves truth and justice,
together we can change the world.
This has been David Duke …sharing my most recent thoughts."
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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24 May 2006 07:02:31 PM |
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Instead of all this hysterical rhetoric, why
not just state the obvious.
1. A good education will get you a good job.
2. Uneducated people will resent that.
3. Historically, Judiasm was the first culture
to promote compulsory education for their
children.
4. It took 2000 years for the rest of the world
to realize that and try to catch up.
5. In the meantime, Feudal Kings, who were
equally uneducated, had to rely on educated
professionals to run every aspect of their
systems of trade and finance.
6. A growing Middle Class rebelled against that
system, and demanded equality of opportunity
in education and the workplace. And that gave
rise to the Industrial Revolution .. which in
Europe gave rise to the Socialist Democratic
Movement(s).
7. The Rule of Kings collapsed, and with it went
the supporting Jewish Aristocracy, which was
no less a Ruling Class.
8. Economic competition fell into the hands of
ignorant monsters, resulting in two World
Wars, and the Cold War, during which, the
Soviet Union struggled to catch up with the
20th Century .. and the United States built
a System of Education that has no equal.
All this "churchy poop" is the rhetoric of
ignorance and superstition. It is nothing but
the jealousy of those who want a bigger house
and a faster car, but are not willing to earn
it.
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26 May 2006 07:20:36 PM |
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On 24 May 2006 17:02:31 -0700, "johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote:
Instead of all this hysterical rhetoric, why
not just state the obvious.
1. A good education will get you a good job.
2. Uneducated people will resent that.
Here is a quote from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."
The money system we have today is called the debt-money
system. It is evil and needs to be replaced. The only way money comes
into existence today is when it is borrowed. There is no freely
existing money supply, but only borrowed money that needs to be paid
back to bankers with interest. If all the money that was owed to
bankers was ever paid back there would be no money left in circulation
and this would be a great depression. What makes matters even worse is
that when money is created only the principle of the loan is created.
The money needed to pay the interest is never created. For this reason
it is impossible to pay back the principle plus the interest on all of
the loans that make up our money supply. The extra amount of money
needed to pay the interest was never created and does not exist.
The United States government borrows money from the Federal
Reserve Bank. This bank is not federal but owned by private
stockholders. It is in the business section of the phone book, not the
government section. Other banks also create the money in our money
supply. They are allowed to loan out much more money then they
actually have. Thus they create new money. No one else is allowed to
create money, only bankers have this privilege. All of our money is
debt-money and it is all owed back to bankers, plus the interest.
In the U.S.A. money is created by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing which is a unit of the treasury, but the orders to print come
from the Federal Reserve Banks. The money is created for and owned by
the banks. And the Federal Reserve Banks are not Federal, in spite of
the name. Privately owned commercial banks own the stock of the
Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Banks give the newly
created money to the government in exchange for government bonds. To
simplify: The United States does not make its own money. Bankers
create the money and loan it to the United States with an interest
charge.
The book War Cycles Peace Cycles puts it this way:
"If there is only $10 in existence, and you lend it to someone
under the condition that he repay $11, and if he agrees to this, he
has agreed to the impossible."
The book The Struggle for World Power put it this way:
"The Bank of England... was the first payment institution which
was legally empowered to issue state-authorized paper currency and ,
therefore, the Government itself became its debtor. Thus the State not
only renounced its monopoly on monetary emission, but also agreed to
borrow the privately-created money from the bankers...Not only the
thing being done, but even the very name was a deliberate fraud and
deception to conceal the essence of the deed. To create money out of
nothing is to make valid and effective claim on all goods and services
for no return, which is fraud and theft, made worse by the
circumstances that the money is lent out at interest...it follows that
those who have the power to 'create' out of nothing all the money in
each country and the whole world and lend it as stated, have total
power over all states, parties, firms, radio, press, individuals and
so on. Therefore the power of Parliament in general, and especially
with regard to money, is non-existent, and all the true sovereignty is
in the hands of those private individuals who issue all money"
3. Historically, Judiasm was the first culture
to promote compulsory education for their
children.
What Hollywood movie was that in?
4. It took 2000 years for the rest of the world
to realize that and try to catch up.
5. In the meantime, Feudal Kings, who were
equally uneducated, had to rely on educated
professionals to run every aspect of their
systems of trade and finance.
6. A growing Middle Class rebelled against that
system, and demanded equality of opportunity
in education and the workplace. And that gave
rise to the Industrial Revolution .. which in
Europe gave rise to the Socialist Democratic
Movement(s).
7. The Rule of Kings collapsed, and with it went
the supporting Jewish Aristocracy, which was
no less a Ruling Class.
8. Economic competition fell into the hands of
ignorant monsters, resulting in two World
Wars, and the Cold War, during which, the
Soviet Union struggled to catch up with the
20th Century .. and the United States built
a System of Education that has no equal.
"Anything good in Western civilization is said to have been stolen
from Black Africa including the English language. Professors claim
that Egyptians were blacks and that Aristotle stole his ideas from the
Egyptian library in Alexandria. The "distinguished scholars" who make
these claims are not sufficiently learned to know that the library was
built after the death of Aristotle. One know-nothing, Martin Bernal,
at Cornell (of course) ignores the Mycenaen, Achaean, Dorian and
Ionian wells of ancient Greek culture in
order to attribute the origins of Greek culture to Africa.
The white kids who attend Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell,
Stanford, Michigan, University of California, Duke, wherever, are
enculturated into a pathology of guilt over evils allegedly
perpetrated by their forebears. They are brainwashed into accepting
unequal rights and limitations on their speech as atonements for the
sins of their fathers. Those who resist are sentenced to "sensitivity
training," accused of various harassment crimes, and expelled.
Propaganda, not the interplay of ideas, rules the universities. It
is routine for speakers who challenge the lies to be driven from the
podium, as was Ann Coulter recently at that "great" university,
Cornell....
"Academics have buried Western civilization under a mountain of
lies. The great books are not burned, but they are discredited with
the charge that the great thinkers in the past were apologists for a
"white hegemonic order."
The erasing of our culture progresses rapidly. Several years ago
it came to light that students in an Illinois public school were being
taught that the ancient Egyptians were blacks who flew among the
pyramids until whites arrived and killed the blacks who could fly. The
reasons given for teaching this nonsense was to improve the
self-esteem of black children and to explain to them why they don't
live in the big houses."
Paul Craig Roberts is a columnist for The Washington Times and is
nationally syndicated.
All this "churchy poop" is the rhetoric of
ignorance and superstition. It is nothing but
the jealousy of those who want a bigger house
and a faster car, but are not willing to earn
it.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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24 May 2006 10:43:07 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:27 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 07:01:10 GMT, Respecting all cultures
<rsgfynjdxjjys@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
Or this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_anti-Semitism
Some Nazi policies towards Jews had forerunners in similar laws
enacted in Europe by Christian rulers centuries before Nazism.
Examples include:
The Synod of Clermont (Franks),
535 CE, prohibited Jews from holding public office.
Nazi Germany,
1935 CE - Prohibited Jews from holding public office.
The 12th Synod of Toledo (Spain),
681 CE,
ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
Nazi Germany -
Ordered the burning of the Talmud and other Jewish books.
In 692,
the Trulanic Synod forbade Christians to go to Jewish doctors,
attend Jewish religious feasts or have friendly relations with Jews.
Nazi Germany -
The Nuremberg laws forbade people to go to Jewish doctors
The Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, forced Jews to wear a distinctive
badge on their clothing. Pope Paul IV, in 1555, issues a papal bull
forcing Jews to wear yellow hats; this same papal bull confines Jews
to ghettos, and bans them from working in most professions.
Nazi Germany adopted every one of these laws in 1939; the only change
was that the yellow hat was changed to a yellow star.
And why did the Romans tear down the Jewish temple and kill every Jew, man
woman and child that they could get hold of?
Romans did not kill every Jews "they can get hold of", judging by the
fact that there WERE JEWS in the Roman Empire.
Circa 90 AD the Jewish Temple was destroyed - read what happened. Start with
Eusebius. Then apologize.
And why do the Arabs hate them?
Did they put Jews in concentration camps like the Christians?
There won't be any concentration camps if the Arabs get the upper hand. And
the Nazis weren't "Christians". They were neo-barbarians of some sort. Jesus
was not present in the Nazi ideology. So stop that silly nonsense.
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in Israel?
Nothing. There aer Christian churches in Israel. Why are you making
***** up?
I said preaching in public - once again, you need to get with it.
BAM
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2456 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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Much of the following speech is about religion. After this speech I
will add my comments.
Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Robert Ley on March 31, 1939. He was
Reichsorganisationsleiter (Reich Organization Leader) in National
Socialist Germany. He was also head of the German Labor Front (DAF).
"What we often saw in our meetings before the seizure of power is
repeated here. Then we would enter the hall with a small group of
supporters. Once, in fact, I was alone: speaker, treasurer, meeting
chair and protection all in one person. We naturally could not hope to
win everyone in the hall to National Socialism. We were happy when the
mass in the room was moved, when there was lively response and
exchange of opinions. We knew that the Swastika never released those
it came in contact with, not even the most bitter opponent. They
complained and fought us, but they had been reached. That is how we
move people today.
Roosevelt speaks about us more than anything else, and his men and
ministers speak only about us. England always held its reserve, but
cannot do so any longer. France is in the same situation. Even the
election of the pope stood in the shadow of the Swastika, whether the
gentlemen liked it or not. I am sure they spoke of nothing else than
how to find a candidate for the chair of St. Peter who was more or
less up to dealing with Adolf Hitler.
National Socialism concerns the leaders of the world, it moves the
peoples. Germany is at the center of the world, and the world asks:
"What is Adolf Hitler doing?" That is their nervous question. My party
comrades, today the Swastika forces the world to take a position for
or against us. The world must decide, it has no choice. There can be
no compromise. The Jew leads the other world. It is all or nothing.
There is no going back..."
"They may say the world is crazy. Well, it is a crazy world, but that
is not the decisive thing. The important thing during the decisive
battles of the coming months and years is whether or not we can make
our people immune to such hocus pocus so that the enemy can no longer
reach them. Our people must simply laugh at their doctrines and magic
words. Just as we did not overcome Marxism only through negation, so
too we will not overcome these enemies only through struggle and
explanations. The Fuehrer once said: "If you take an idol from people,
you must replace it with a true god." Our god is the wonderful law of
creation, whose amazing unity of all things shows itself in wonderful
flowers, in growing trees, in new born children, in the secrets of a
mother, in the growth of our people, in work and accomplishment and
creation, in life itself. It is the joy we have in everything. How
beautiful everything is. Do you feel the same way? I am so happy to be
alive.
A priest recently asked me: "But what about eternity...?"
I replied: "A day in National Socialist Germany is better for me than
all of your Heaven."
This life is where we build the eternity of the nation. What happens
to me when I die? I do not know. One thing I do know. I will return to
the earth and will belong again to the wonderful Mother Earth. Isn't
that enough? If only a blade of grass of a flower grows from my grave,
that is enough for me. I am happy with what I have done so far. It was
both hard and beautiful, and I am thankful for these 48 years. And if
I remain alive long enough to finish my work, I can die in peace.
Death will hold no terrors for me. I have seen many people for whom it
was hard to die. I am sure that we will die in a worthy manner. I hope
to have the strength not to die like a weakling, rather to die with
the satisfaction of knowing I have done something. Eternity? I do not
want to live forever, but I want my people to live on eternally. I
want my people to be eternal, and to live forever so that in 2,000,
3,000 and 100,000 years it will look just as it does today. I do not
want it to be bastardized or corrupted, rather that the same sound
race, the same manliness, and the same men are present, that the same
battalions of men march through Germany.
When Romulus founded Rome he killed the priests, saying: "I do not
want the Romans to fear God."
The priests then seem to have had the same weapons as their
counterparts today: they count on human weakness and cowardice. We,
however, build on human courage and manliness. That is the difference.
We want to tell the people the truth, not console them with hopes of a
better tomorrow. We want to make the world beautiful, to hold high the
concept of work. We want to say that one can't take problems away from
people, that life is struggle.
No one has greater reverence for god and creation than we do. The
priests do not hate us because we are "godless," since they get along
nicely with the godless in Russia and Spain. They hate us because we
are the only ones who believe in god. We are finding god, indeed we
have already found him. Where does the desire for god come from, where
does faith come from, or true piety, if not from god? I know only one
way to tell: If a person quietly and contemplatively faces events. One
must be confident and self-assured, not afraid and nervous. Then I can
say: "You have a god. You are not worried, you do not run around like
chicken with its head cut off, rather you stay calm."
Look at our people today, and remember how they were ten or twenty
years ago. If that is the measure of whether one believes in god or
not, if one faces everything that fate brings, if faces war or peace
calmly, if one faces life calmly and lives it the same way, then one
has god. To have god means to have a fixed point in life, to have god
means to have faith. I do not know what the future will bring, since I
am only a man, but I am not concerned. English newspapers write:
"Germany will gain no advantage from Bohemia and Moravia." One doesn't
know which is more astonishing: the Fuehrer's pace or the peace with
which 80 million Germans accept what happens. That means we have god:
we are calm, we have faith and confidence-just like the priests always
say. Yes, the Führer gave confidence to every German, and therefore
peace and faith. We have found god.
We have become a people that believes in god. This is what our idea of
life and of affirming life has accomplished, becoming the idea of
Germany. We will be able to do everything if that grows from its small
beginning into a religion, to something holy to the German people. It
will not be a false religious mysticism, rather it will be frank,
honorable, military, manly, disciplined and tough. The Church founded
two realms: the sacred and the secular. They claimed that they ruled
the sacred, the devil the secular. They ruled counts and kings for two
thousand years that way, destroying worlds and building states as they
wished. They brought Negroes and Whites together because it suited
them and their desire to rule. We are building our new state on the
basis of race and community, our race, the German people. We believe
that god gave us our blood not to ruin it, but to keep it pure and
pass it on to our children and our children's children. That is
eternity. That is our defense against the dark powers of Marxism,
Bolshevism, liberalism, Free Masonry and a belief in the Messiah, the
Jewish doctrine of salvation. That is a teaching that affirms life. It
is the idea of race, blood and soil, the idea of this life and the
beauties of the earth, Mother Earth, that is our Fatherland. The world
makes sense, nothing is arbitrary. Everything has its meaning, and is
related to other things. Everything goes according to plan, each star
is in its place, each man has his place, each people has its tasks. We
will overcome the doctrines of our enemies. The Jews must know
that....
"And even if they succeed in eliminating unemployment, something we
have succeeded in doing but they have not, we have rescued the German
worker from his weakness as a proletarian creature. That had nothing
to do with making him a contented slave, rather with freeing him from
slavery and stupidity. I hope we will continue to care for workers in
this way. On the one hand we have to speed up labor, demand more work,
since nothing will be given to us. We cannot get by with an 8 hour
day, for the cannons have to be built, the coal must be mined, the
gasoline and the vehicles have to be produced if we want to prevent
war.
On the other hand, we must do everything we can to care for people.
The people must have the feeling that the leading men are paying
attention to everything, that their lives are not a comfortable, but
that they are driving and flying across the country to care for
people. Of course they won't be able to solve every problem. The
nation is like a child, and a child does not ask if its mother is rich
or poor, but it demands that it be cared for. The people do not serve
Adolf Hitler because they understand his brilliance, rather because
they feel safe..."
My Comments:
The National Socialists outlawed abortion. They outlawed homosexual
perversion and feminism. They outlawed pornography and prostitution.
They removed the race of anti-Christs from controlling the media. They
rejected both the madness of Communism and the greed of Capitalism.
What are the chances of Judeo-Christians doing anything like that?
Does having a Christian in the White House actually do any good? Why
did men become Christians in the first place? Was it not because we
were against the homosexual perverts and the feminists? Is anything
being done about these things being promoted in the schools and in the
movies?
Mr. Rogers "it's a wonderful day in the neighborhood" was and
ordained Christian minister. The speech above says a lot about
"manliness". Which side is really better? Maybe Mr. Rogers is an
unfair example but isn't it obvious that Christianity is not what it
used to be?
I was told that Christianity was fighting against movies like
"Brokeback Mountain" and all the rest of the liberalism going on.
Naturally I turned to Christianity. Then I got in an argument over
contradictions in the Bible. My opponent pointed out that Jesus said
he would return before the present generation had passed away. Matthew
24:34 "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be
fulfilled." Well, that generation did pass without all the things
being fulfilled. I looked at the verse in context and about what
things were supposed to happen during that generation. I could have
argued away using hot air and BS, but I stand truth above all else. I
said I didn't have an answer, all I know is that I am against the
homosexual perverts and feminists and he, my opponent, was for these
things. And that is why I was against him.
There are more contradictions in Bible:
"Christ's genealogies of Matthew and Luke do not agree, give a
different number of generations, and both trace his lineage through
Joseph although Christ was not supposed to be Joseph's flesh and
blood. In Matthew, Jesus is born in a house before the death of Herod,
wise men visited him, and the family fled to Egypt. In Luke, Jesus is
born in a stable during the governorship of Cyrenius, was visited by
shepherds and there is no journey to Egypt. After the crucifixion, the
Matthew account is of two women, Mary Magdalene and another Mary,
discovering the empty tomb, Jesus meets them on their way to tell the
disciples and orders that the disciples go to Galilee, and the
ascension is from a mountain in Galilee. In Mark, three women, the two
Mary's and Salome, find a young man in the tomb who commands them to
tell the disciples to go to Galilee, and the ascension is from a room.
According to Luke, two women see two men at the tomb who inform them
of the resurrection, Jesus appears to the disciples at a meeting and
tells them to wait in Jerusalem, and the ascension is from Gethany. In
John it is Mary Magdalene alone who discovers the empty tomb, Jesus
speaks to her outside the tomb, and the ascension is from the Sea of
Galilee."
http://www.dynasophy.org/manifesto_ch2.html
Hitler said in a speech in Berlin on March 23, 1933 "The Reich
government sees in Christianity the unshakable foundation of the
ethics and morality of the folk." We are not against Christianity. But
most of the Christians serve the Jews and are basically clueless about
the world around them. They don't know that the Jews were behind
Communism or much of anything else.
I can't prove what, if anything, will happen after death.
Arguments like that will most likely never be resolved. Instead of
getting in debates that lead nowhere, I say what I want now and what
kind of nation I want. And what I want is National Socialism.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:43:07 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Circa 90 AD the Jewish Temple was destroyed - read what happened. Start with
Eusebius. Then apologize.
you mean like this *****?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora
For those Jews in the diaspora, they were generally accepted into the
Roman Empire
Kind of gives lie to your lie about how they were "hunted" down in the
Roman Empire eh?
And why do the Arabs hate them?
Did they put Jews in concentration camps like the Christians?
There won't be any concentration camps if the Arabs get the upper hand. And
the Nazis weren't "Christians". They were neo-barbarians of some sort. Jesus
was not present in the Nazi ideology. So stop that silly nonsense.
You mean like how the Nazis celebrated Christmas with the Catholci
bishop in the name of their lord savior Jesus Christ? Why are you so
dishonest?
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in Israel?
Nothing. There aer Christian churches in Israel. Why are you making
***** up?
I said preaching in public - once again, you need to get with it.
So, are you Christianzais always this dishonest, your original quote
clearly said "preaching", not "preaching in public", but just
"preaching", of which a sermon in a Christian church most certainly
qualify.
So why are you assholes such fucking liars?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2458 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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24 May 2006 11:20:45 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3oaa72hh6blb6pkle7ngjof2875b50ed90@4ax.com...
On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:43:07 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Circa 90 AD the Jewish Temple was destroyed - read what happened. Start
with
Eusebius. Then apologize.
you mean like this *****?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora
For those Jews in the diaspora, they were generally accepted into the
Roman Empire
Kind of gives lie to your lie about how they were "hunted" down in the
Roman Empire eh?
(I ask him to start with Eusebius, (400 AD) and he starts with Wikipedia.)
And why do the Arabs hate them?
Did they put Jews in concentration camps like the Christians?
There won't be any concentration camps if the Arabs get the upper hand.
And
the Nazis weren't "Christians". They were neo-barbarians of some sort.
Jesus
was not present in the Nazi ideology. So stop that silly nonsense.
You mean like how the Nazis celebrated Christmas with the Catholci
bishop in the name of their lord savior Jesus Christ? Why are you so
dishonest?
This makes them Christians? You're a dope. The Nazis were as Christian as
the Commies. If pretending to be a Christian got them more followers, they'd
pretend. Besides - everyone, even atheists (excluding Jews) celebrate
Christmas in one way or another.
The Nazis certainly knew how the Church felt. In Germany in 1935 Hermann
Goering said:
"Catholic believers carry away but one impression from attendance at
divine services and that is that the Catholic Church rejects the
institutions of the Nationalist State."
Besides, it is a fact that the Churchdid speak out directly against the
Nazis. In 1930 Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII) arranged a
series of articles in L'Osservatore Romano that strongly criticized Nazism.
The October 11, 1930 article said:
"Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable
with the Catholic Conscience."
These articles were reprinted in diocesan newspapers around the world, but
especially in Germany, where bishops and priests emphasized that this was
official Church teaching.
In 1935 at Lourdes in France, Cardinal Pacelli told an estimated 325,000
pilgrims, including many Germans, that:
"the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist
in their racial philosophy."
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ct_vsnazis.html
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in
Israel?
Nothing. There aer Christian churches in Israel. Why are you making
***** up?
I said preaching in public - once again, you need to get with it.
So, are you Christianzais always this dishonest, your original quote
clearly said "preaching", not "preaching in public", but just
"preaching", of which a sermon in a Christian church most certainly
qualify.
So why are you assholes such fucking liars?
Do we arrest people for preaching religion in the streets? Does any
civilized nation? Nope. But Israel does. Sorry, punk - you don't know what
your'e talking about.
BAM
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25 May 2006 03:51:31 AM |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:20:45 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3oaa72hh6blb6pkle7ngjof2875b50ed90@4ax.com...
On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:43:07 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Circa 90 AD the Jewish Temple was destroyed - read what happened. Start
with
Eusebius. Then apologize.
you mean like this *****?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora
For those Jews in the diaspora, they were generally accepted into the
Roman Empire
Kind of gives lie to your lie about how they were "hunted" down in the
Roman Empire eh?
(I ask him to start with Eusebius, (400 AD) and he starts with Wikipedia.)
First of all Eusebius DIED in 339AD, so you're already full of ***** on
that account. Secondly Eusebius was a Jew-hating Christian, like the
Nazis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_antisemitism
"that from that time seditions and wars and mischievous plots followed
each other in quick succession, and never ceased in the city and in
all Judea until finally the siege of Vespasian overwhelmed them. Thus
the divine vengeance overtook the Jews for the crimes which they dared
to commit against Christ. "
Any other Jew-hating Christians you would like to cite, moron?
And why do the Arabs hate them?
Did they put Jews in concentration camps like the Christians?
There won't be any concentration camps if the Arabs get the upper hand.
And
the Nazis weren't "Christians". They were neo-barbarians of some sort.
Jesus
was not present in the Nazi ideology. So stop that silly nonsense.
You mean like how the Nazis celebrated Christmas with the Catholci
bishop in the name of their lord savior Jesus Christ? Why are you so
dishonest?
This makes them Christians? You're a dope. The Nazis were as Christian as
the Commies. If pretending to be a Christian got them more followers, they'd
pretend. Besides - everyone, even atheists (excluding Jews) celebrate
Christmas in one way or another.
Oh look another liar for Christ. The Nazis attended mass. How many
atheists, commies or Jews do that?
The Nazis certainly knew how the Church felt.
[snip]
Sure they do that's why the Church sanctified the Nazis became part of
its power structure, was the first political institution to recognize
Hitler's regime, while MILLIONS of Christians fought as Nazis.
And what happens today, if one is caught preachng Christianity in
Israel?
Nothing. There aer Christian churches in Israel. Why are you making
***** up?
I said preaching in public - once again, you need to get with it.
So, are you Christianzais always this dishonest, your original quote
clearly said "preaching", not "preaching in public", but just
"preaching", of which a sermon in a Christian church most certainly
qualify.
So why are you assholes such fucking liars?
Do we arrest people for preaching religion in the streets? Does any
civilized nation? Nope. But Israel does. Sorry, punk - you don't know what
your'e talking about.
Non sequitur. Did you say "preaching in public" initially? *****?
But I'll humor you. Oh yeah, you're a fucking liar:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/13997.htm
"Missionaries are allowed to proselytize"
Again, why are you revisionist Christians such liars?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2458 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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25 May 2006 08:31:39 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote
(I ask him to start with Eusebius, (400 AD) and he starts with Wikipedia.)
First of all Eusebius DIED in 339AD, so you're already full of ***** on
that account.
Yep - there's a huge error. I was approximating.
Secondly Eusebius was a Jew-hating Christian, like the
Nazis:
Does that mean that his history is false?
Aren't Jews Christian haters?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_antisemitism
"that from that time seditions and wars and mischievous plots followed
each other in quick succession, and never ceased in the city and in
all Judea until finally the siege of Vespasian overwhelmed them. Thus
the divine vengeance overtook the Jews for the crimes which they dared
to commit against Christ. "
Any other Jew-hating Christians you would like to cite, moron?
Do I need to? Are there any "Jew lovers" who contradict Eusebius' account?
Besides, read what Jesus said to the women when He was carrying His cross -
Jesus predicted this event, while telling the women not to pity Him, but
their children. This event happened within 60 years of the crucifixion.
This makes them Christians? You're a dope. The Nazis were as Christian as
the Commies. If pretending to be a Christian got them more followers,
they'd
pretend. Besides - everyone, even atheists (excluding Jews) celebrate
Christmas in one way or another.
Oh look another liar for Christ. The Nazis attended mass. How many
atheists, commies or Jews do that?
What Nazis attended Mass? All of 'em? One of 'em? Name them.
If they did, it would raise my opinion of them. As for Commies, Jews and
Atheists - those are just alternate descriptions for the same persons.
The Nazis certainly knew how the Church felt.
[snip]
Sure they do that's why the Church sanctified the Nazis became part of
its power structure, was the first political institution to recognize
Hitler's regime, while MILLIONS of Christians fought as Nazis.
Facts, son? Got any facts?
Millions of Christians fought against the Nazis. Very few Jews did though.
Do we arrest people for preaching religion in the streets? Does any
civilized nation? Nope. But Israel does. Sorry, punk - you don't know what
your'e talking about.
Non sequitur. Did you say "preaching in public" initially? *****?
Loser.
What preacher preaches in a closet? All preaching is public.
BAM
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25 May 2006 10:04:22 AM |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 09:31:39 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote
(I ask him to start with Eusebius, (400 AD) and he starts with Wikipedia.)
First of all Eusebius DIED in 339AD, so you're already full of ***** on
that account.
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