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User: "HVAC"
Date: 07 Oct 2006 11:13:40 AM
Object: Hollow head spin
"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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*snip* for brevity

Good...You snipped out everything related to Twonky.
He is a distasteful sort, isn't he?
Racial bigotry is something I have never had the displeasure
to embrace.

What proof can you show me for the existence of god?


Absolutely none. No proof, no data, no evidence. I simply choose for
myself to believe. It is that simple. My belief harms no one as I
don't seek to convert... or preach. My religion makes me (I think and
hope) a better person - and my friends, my community, benefit. No harm;
no foul.

Well, in MY worldview, religion is the cause of almost all the
suffering on the planet. Hands down.
PS- When you use the sig, "Pangur - nonchristian theist", you
are in a sense, proselytizing.
In a sense then, YOU are part of the global suffering that has
been brought about by religion.
There IS harm and there IS foul....Just look at Twonky.
..........He believes in god too.
.

User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 07 Oct 2006 01:08:00 PM
"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in
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"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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*snip* for brevity


Good...You snipped out everything related to Twonky.

He is a distasteful sort, isn't he?

Racial bigotry is something I have never had the displeasure to
embrace.

I don't embrace it either.... *shudder* what a thought!


What proof can you show me for the existence of god?


Absolutely none. No proof, no data, no evidence. I simply choose
for myself to believe. It is that simple. My belief harms no one as
I don't seek to convert... or preach. My religion makes me (I think
and hope) a better person - and my friends, my community, benefit.
No harm; no foul.


Well, in MY worldview, religion is the cause of almost all the
suffering on the planet. Hands down.

No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.


PS- When you use the sig, "Pangur - nonchristian theist", you are in a
sense, proselytizing.

Sheesh, you atheists are hard to satisfy. I added it at the suggestion
of another atheist poster who told me it would help readers remember I
am a theist. You tell me it is "proselytizing".
What's a poor theist to do? *laugh* Maybe I will go back to my
favorite sig line.


In a sense then, YOU are part of the global suffering that has been
brought about by religion.

Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.


There IS harm and there IS foul....Just look at Twonky.

.........He believes in god too.

Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.
What determines the person is what he/she does with the beliefs (and
sometimes doesn't do with the silly accretions to religion.)
Pangur - ???????
.
User: "Angel of HaShem"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 12 Oct 2006 08:34:54 AM
"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in
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"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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*snip* for brevity


Good...You snipped out everything related to Twonky.

He is a distasteful sort, isn't he?

Racial bigotry is something I have never had the displeasure to
embrace.

I don't embrace it either.... *shudder* what a thought!

I don't either. I eXploit it.....


What proof can you show me for the existence of god?


Absolutely none. No proof, no data, no evidence. I simply choose
for myself to believe. It is that simple. My belief harms no one as
I don't seek to convert... or preach. My religion makes me (I think
and hope) a better person - and my friends, my community, benefit.
No harm; no foul.


Well, in MY worldview, religion is the cause of almost all the
suffering on the planet. Hands down.


No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.

Oh. Are you judging them....?


PS- When you use the sig, "Pangur - nonchristian theist", you are in a
sense, proselytizing.


Sheesh, you atheists are hard to satisfy. I added it at the suggestion
of another atheist poster who told me it would help readers remember I
am a theist. You tell me it is "proselytizing".

He is judging you....


What's a poor theist to do? *laugh* Maybe I will go back to my
favorite sig line.

And what is that....?



In a sense then, YOU are part of the global suffering that has been
brought about by religion.


Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.

How many can you have....?



There IS harm and there IS foul....Just look at Twonky.

.........He believes in god too.


Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.

Belief in God Almighty does. My maker has a name....

What determines the person is what he/she does with the beliefs (and
sometimes doesn't do with the silly accretions to religion.)

That's no fun....


Pangur - ???????

Pangur - I don't know what I believe
~>
Twonky....
"Then they remembered that the Almighty God HaShem was their
rock and redeemer, and the Most High." (Ps 78:35)
"I will exalt my throne above the throne of God. I will put myself
beyond the stars. I will be like the Most High."
(Lucifer. Isaias 12:14)
"Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High." (Allah 87.1)
He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise, too....
Wake up world.....
You've been had.....
.
User: "Ghod"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 12 Oct 2006 12:23:41 PM
"Angel of HaShem" <twonky@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in
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"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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*snip* for brevity


Good...You snipped out everything related to Twonky.

He is a distasteful sort, isn't he?

Racial bigotry is something I have never had the displeasure to
embrace.

I don't embrace it either.... *shudder* what a thought!


I don't either. I eXploit it.....

Do you work for Micro$oft?

What proof can you show me for the existence of god?


Absolutely none. No proof, no data, no evidence. I simply

choose

for myself to believe. It is that simple. My belief harms no

one as

I don't seek to convert... or preach. My religion makes me (I

think

and hope) a better person - and my friends, my community,

benefit.

No harm; no foul.

Funny, most theists say similar things about how their religion makes
them better....what they all forget, is that the statement implies the
unsaid, "you, who don't share my fantasy, are lesser". You're no
different...and there is harm in your beliefs. The fact is, a
theistic outlook on life prevents you from making correct choices in
some important areas....and many of those choices impact everyone
else, you know, and that's foul.

Well, in MY worldview, religion is the cause of almost all the
suffering on the planet. Hands down.


No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the

majority of

them) should be criminal.


Oh. Are you judging them....?

His theism makes him "better", see.

PS- When you use the sig, "Pangur - nonchristian theist", you are

in a

sense, proselytizing.


Sheesh, you atheists are hard to satisfy. I added it at the

suggestion

of another atheist poster who told me it would help readers

remember I

am a theist. You tell me it is "proselytizing".


He is judging you....

....and being ridiculous, too. Maybe he should look up the meaning of
the word.

What's a poor theist to do? *laugh* Maybe I will go back to my
favorite sig line.


And what is that....?

No, don't get him to bring _that_ back!!!

In a sense then, YOU are part of the global suffering that has

been

brought about by religion.


Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major

religions

and most of the minor ones.

You don't follow _any_ of it? *****. You admit to believing in a
magic pixie, and you know that's part of nearly all religions, too.

How many can you have....?

If you're going to impose limits.....

There IS harm and there IS foul....Just look at Twonky.

.........He believes in god too.


Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent

person.


Belief in God Almighty does. My maker has a firstname....

It's Oh Ess See Aay Arrrrrrrrrr........
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 12 Oct 2006 03:43:30 PM
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:34:54 GMT, "Angel of HaShem"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:

"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.

Oh. Are you judging them....?

Why shouldn't s/he? Only Christians are barred from judging others.

Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.

How many can you have....?

A few thousand, at least. Or, if you go by the fact that no two
people agree on religion, a few billion.

Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.

Belief in God Almighty does.

Nope. Plenty do who aren't. Some guy in Germany in the 30s?
Mustache? Adolph somebody-or-other? Did what he was doing for God
Almighty. Wasn't a very nice fella.

My maker has a name....

Mrs. Twonky. Her husband is Mr. Twonky. And you're the Twonky kid.
Failing to honor your parents goes against what your god (small 'g',
I'm not using a name there) told you is mandatory.

He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise, too....

He's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
(coming soon to a theater near you)
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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User: "Angel of HaShem/Messenger"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 14 Oct 2006 08:23:41 AM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:34:54 GMT, "Angel of HaShem"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:

"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.


Oh. Are you judging them....?


Why shouldn't s/he? Only Christians are barred from judging others.

It's pretty tough not to judge the wild asses of Islam....


Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.


How many can you have....?


A few thousand, at least. Or, if you go by the fact that no two
people agree on religion, a few billion.

That's true....
And there is only one Almighty God....not included in any of them.
So for us, there is HaShem...not to be worshipped......
But His ways and means be acknowledged. It starts with the crop
circles. But the Satan psyche of the elite, gave them to the feet of
man, rather the technology of the Kingdom, to do such a thing as
to have them appear, out of thin air.....
3 fields not seeded in clumps. Like wheat. Tramlined wheat.
But very thickly seeded fields. So thick, a gopher would leave
a trail....
Like your front lawn.....only longer. You probably mow yours.
http://www.cccrn.ca/formationarchive2004.html
http://www.cccrn.ca/noyan04thumb.jpg
http://www.cccrn.ca/matsqui04thumb.jpg
This one has 'grown in tramlines. Nobody has walked them....
They are undisturbed. Another thickly seeded field....
http://www.cccrn.ca/vanderhoof01a.jpg
(Cardinal Chunder is getting those.)
That would ***** up everybody and their false religions. And
instill a Creator.....
Once He's acknowledged on a global scale. "Thy Kingdom come."
And the King of the world, and his legions will come to the Earth.
And not to any specific location or governments.....
Maybe hovering above the Earth, and communicating through
audio and visual medium. Take over every channel....
Just for a short time. Then one can get back to their favorite
program. And not give a thought as to what just happened....
News stations, scientists, the most powerful known beings
on the Earth will go nuts....


Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.


Belief in God Almighty does.


Nope. Plenty do who aren't. Some guy in Germany in the 30s?
Mustache? Adolph somebody-or-other? Did what he was doing for God
Almighty. Wasn't a very nice fella.

He did it for the same reason Osam, Farrakhan, and King did it.
To mock the Jews and HaShem.....
Who says one has to be nice to know the Almighty. I'm not very
nice a lot of times. I want to show he has a made, and chosen people.
That rival His angel's made and chosen. He'll let it go so far....


My maker has a name....


Mrs. Twonky. Her husband is Mr. Twonky. And you're the Twonky kid.

My maker made them. You and yours also....through hybridization...


Failing to honor your parents goes against what your god (small 'g',
I'm not using a name there) told you is mandatory.

I got punished sometimes. Spanked on the butt....one time with a belt....
"Ouch...I'll never do that again!"


He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise, too....


He's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Is that a cartoon character....?
I am talking about a rogue angel of HaShem. Who does no good....
Meet Allah.....
He's reality....in the Muslim psyche anyway....
And they put him in the psyche of the entire world.....
Through "suichomicide"......
"Islam is a beautiful religion."
(George Bush Jr.) The dumbest president in history....
That's what the angels do. They interacted on the Earth at
one time. And their doings are embedded in our psyche...
The two most prevalent, are two rogue angels....
Lucifer and Satan....
They compete with HaShem in His work. They were made to
be like that. Good & evil....angels....
The good ones are in the legion of the Christ. They make the
crop circles. HaShem's take of the crops every year.
Now man competes with His angels. On TV demos only....
Once a year. That gives them ALL of the markings. They wont
live demo. They're only seen in a 40 minute (minus commercials)
crop clown show, in stop motion. Who the hell knows what
goes on, between stops....?
I don't trust them. Live demo, or they own only the ones they f
ake on TV.....
In reality...Team Satan is seen on TV, to be unseen in the
fields. They call themselves; "Hypothetical Unseen Humans!?"
HUHs...
I can't believe the stupidity, and pathetic reasoning, of those
so easily deceived. Absolutely incredible.....!


(coming soon to a theater near you)

I hope so...the world has to know the truth.....

--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not
prove
anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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I prefer my own random ones....
~>
Twonky...
"Then they remembered that the Almighty God HaShem was their
rock and redeemer, and the Most High." (Ps 78:35)
"I will exalt my throne above the throne of God. I will put myself
beyond the stars. I will be like the Most High."
(Lucifer. Isaias 12:14)
"Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High." (Allah 87.1)
He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise too....
Wake up world! You have been had.....!!
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 14 Oct 2006 07:05:00 PM
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:23:41 GMT, "Angel of HaShem/Messenger"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:


"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:34:54 GMT, "Angel of HaShem"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:

"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.


Oh. Are you judging them....?


Why shouldn't s/he? Only Christians are barred from judging others.


It's pretty tough not to judge the wild asses of Islam....

So?

Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.


How many can you have....?


A few thousand, at least. Or, if you go by the fact that no two
people agree on religion, a few billion.


That's true....

And there is only one Almighty God.

Or a few billion of them.

Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.


Belief in God Almighty does.


Nope. Plenty do who aren't. Some guy in Germany in the 30s?
Mustache? Adolph somebody-or-other? Did what he was doing for God
Almighty. Wasn't a very nice fella.


He did it for the same reason Osam, Farrakhan, and King did it.
To mock the Jews and HaShem.....

Oh, you can read the minds of the dead? I prefer the words of the
living. Hitler SAID he did it for his Christian god - same one you
worship.

Who says one has to be nice to know the Almighty.

So of what use is religion, if not to make good people out of us?

My maker has a name....

Mrs. Twonky. Her husband is Mr. Twonky. And you're the Twonky kid.

My maker made them.

So who made your maker?

Failing to honor your parents goes against what your god (small 'g',
I'm not using a name there) told you is mandatory.

I got punished sometimes. Spanked on the butt....one time with a belt....
"Ouch...I'll never do that again!"

And? You think making small talk makes me forget the thread of the
conversation? You claim piety and you openly admit to violating the
laws of the god you claim to worship.

He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise, too....

He's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Is that a cartoon character....?

No, it's the only True God. And, since it doesn't procreate, it
doesn't have a gender - it's an 'it'.

I am talking about a rogue angel of HaShem. Who does no good....
Meet Allah.....

Oh. Meet the Flintstones. Or is that the Jetsons?

He's reality....in the Muslim psyche anyway....

Same as any god - subjectively real.

(George Bush Jr.) The dumbest president in history....

Can't argue with that, except for your use of "president" in that
sentence. I'd have said "anthropoid".

That's what the angels do. They interacted on the Earth at
one time. And their doings are embedded in our psyche...

And Goldilocks ate the bears' porridge.

The good ones are in the legion of the Christ. They make the
crop circles. HaShem's take of the crops every year.

You still believe that nonsense? The guys who did it even
demonstrated how they did it. Another 'gap' your god doesn't live in.

I can't believe the stupidity, and pathetic reasoning, of those
so easily deceived. Absolutely incredible.....!

Yep - the ones known as theists or believers.

I hope so...the world has to know the truth.....

It will. Right now most humans are still children. When the species
grows up it'll stop believing in make-believe.

Wake up world! You have been had.....!!

Yell it louder - you might hear it.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
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User: "Earle Jones"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 15 Oct 2006 01:07:57 PM
In article <kst2j2dcsoj3gt9bjrso58e8a4urqee0j1@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:23:41 GMT, "Angel of HaShem/Messenger"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:


"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:34:54 GMT, "Angel of HaShem"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:

"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98557B79D73E6PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20...


No argument from me. What men have done to religions (the majority of
them) should be criminal.


Oh. Are you judging them....?


Why shouldn't s/he? Only Christians are barred from judging others.


It's pretty tough not to judge the wild asses of Islam....


So?

Not I....as I don't follow any of the nonsense of the major religions
and most of the minor ones.


How many can you have....?


A few thousand, at least. Or, if you go by the fact that no two
people agree on religion, a few billion.


That's true....

And there is only one Almighty God.


Or a few billion of them.

Belief in god does not guarantee a good - let alone - decent person.


Belief in God Almighty does.


Nope. Plenty do who aren't. Some guy in Germany in the 30s?
Mustache? Adolph somebody-or-other? Did what he was doing for God
Almighty. Wasn't a very nice fella.


He did it for the same reason Osam, Farrakhan, and King did it.
To mock the Jews and HaShem.....


Oh, you can read the minds of the dead? I prefer the words of the
living. Hitler SAID he did it for his Christian god - same one you
worship.

Who says one has to be nice to know the Almighty.


So of what use is religion, if not to make good people out of us?

My maker has a name....


Mrs. Twonky. Her husband is Mr. Twonky. And you're the Twonky kid.


My maker made them.


So who made your maker?

Failing to honor your parents goes against what your god (small 'g',
I'm not using a name there) told you is mandatory.


I got punished sometimes. Spanked on the butt....one time with a belt....
"Ouch...I'll never do that again!"


And? You think making small talk makes me forget the thread of the
conversation? You claim piety and you openly admit to violating the
laws of the god you claim to worship.

He's Mighty, Supreme, Benevolent and Wise, too....


He's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


Is that a cartoon character....?


No, it's the only True God. And, since it doesn't procreate, it
doesn't have a gender - it's an 'it'.

*
"It" had a son. Don't you believe that Jesus is the son of God?
If you don't, you're headed for the fires of hell.
earle
*
"I believe in Gosh. If you don't believe in Gosh
You will be darned to heck."
ej
*
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Hollow head spin 15 Oct 2006 04:42:36 PM
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:07:57 -0700, Earle Jones
<earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:

In article <kst2j2dcsoj3gt9bjrso58e8a4urqee0j1@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:23:41 GMT, "Angel of HaShem/Messenger"
<twonky@mindspring.com> wrote:

Is that a cartoon character....?

No, it's the only True God. And, since it doesn't procreate, it
doesn't have a gender - it's an 'it'.

"It" had a son. Don't you believe that Jesus is the son of God?

No.

If you don't, you're headed for the fires of hell.
"I believe in Gosh. If you don't believe in Gosh
You will be darned to heck."

I believe in Plonk. If you don't believe in him you get to spend all
of eternity with John P. Boatwright. Hell is a country club with
slaves compared to that.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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