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User: "Jay Kay Rowling"
Date: 03 Nov 2007 03:40:31 PM
Object: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse
Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is
because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other
males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the
evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek
adolescent males or boys as sexual partners:
* Pedophiles are invariably males: A report by the American Professional
Society on the Abuse of Children states: "In both clinical and non-
clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male."1 The book
Sexual Offending Against Children reports that only 12 of 3,000
incarcerated pedophiles in England were women."2
* Significant numbers of victims are males: A study of 457 male sex
offenders against children in Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy found that
"approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual
activity against males."3
* Homosexuals comprise less than 3 percent of the population. Relying upon
three large data sets: the General Social Survey, the National Health and
Social Life Survey, and the U.S. census, a recent study in Demography
estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general
population at 2.5 percent, and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4
percent.4
* Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from
the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the
same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against
children. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found that although
heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1,
homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child
sex offenses.5
* Homosexuality and pedophilia are interrelated sexual behaviors: The
evidence does not support the argument that, by definition,
pedophiles cannot be considered homosexual because they are solely
interested in boys:
* Studies show that homosexual males are sexually attracted to underage
boys.6 In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen
Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals
surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years of
age or younger."7
* Conversely, studies also show that male homosexual pedophiles are
sexually attracted to adult males and engage in sexual relations with
adult homosexuals.8
* Studies also show that homosexual pedophiles enter into sexual
relationships with women, and that many either were married or had been
married at some time.9
* The historical Connection between Pedophilia and the Gay Rights
Movement: Homosexual activist, pedophile, and historian of the gay rights
movement, David Thorstad, writes: "Boy-lovers were involved in the gay
movement from the beginning, and their presence was tolerated. . . . There
was a mood of tolerance, even joy at discovering the myriad of lifestyles
within the gay and lesbian subculture."10 Pedophile groups were members of
the International Lesbian and Gay Association until the mid 1990's, when
that association cost ILGA it status as a Non-governmental organization
within the United Nations.
Pedophile Themes Abound in Gay Literature: The late "beat" poet Allen
Ginsberg was also a pedophile, whose poetry contained explicit references
to man-boy sex.11 Mary Eberstadt, writing in the Weekly Standard,
documents how anthologies of gay fiction as well as the Gay Men's Press
fiction bestseller list are replete with examples of pedophilic themes.12
Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. is senior fellow for culture studies at the
Family Research Council.
NOTES
1. John Briere, et al., eds., The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment
(Thousand Oaks, California: Sage Publications, 1996), pp. 52, 53.
2. Dawn Fisher, "Adult Sex Offenders: Who are They? Why and How Do They Do
It?" in Tony Morrison, et al., eds., Sexual Offending Against Children
(London: Routledge, 1994), p. 11.
3. Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs.
Homosexuality," Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197.
4. Dan Black, et al., "Demographics of the Gay and Lesbian Population in
the United States: Evidence from Available Systematic Data Sources,"
Demography 37 (May 2000): 150.
5. Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age
Preference," p. 107. Cp. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey,
"Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and
Women," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67-76.
6. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age
Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," p. 70.
7. Karla Jay and Allen Young, The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak
Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (New York: Summit Books,
1979), p. 275
8. W. L. Marshall, et al., "Sexual Offenders against Male Children: Sexual
Preferences," p. 383; W. L. Marshall, et al., "Early Onset and Deviant
Sexuality in Child Molesters," Journal of Interpersonal Violence 6 (1991):
323-336
9. Elliott, p. 581.
10. Ibid., p. 253.
11. Raymond-Jean Frontain, "The Works of Allen Ginsberg," Journal of
Homosexuality 34 (1997).
12. Mary Eberstadt, "'Pedophilia Chic' Reconsidered" The Weekly Standard 6
(January 8, 2001).
.

User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 11:18:52 AM
"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.

[snip]
[plonk]
.
User: "RamRod Sword of Baal"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 02:09:08 PM
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:0anXi.13636$4V6.5950@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.


[snip]

[plonk]

I have just checked out the Utah sex register on Smith and Jones,, I use
these because they are common names, please use any names you like.
I have excluded females (1 only) and any that the sex of the victim is not
shown.
The results are
http://corrections.Utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=smith&fname=&zip=&x=19&y=2
Smith
Sex offenders against female 18
Sex offenders against males 2
Jones
http://corrections.utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=Jones&fname=&zip=&x=20&y=8
Sex offenders against female 19
Sex offenders against males 2
That is a total of 37 male to female sex offenders against 4 male to male
sex offenders.
--------------------------------------
I did similar check a few years back with similar results.
I have posted the URLs for the Utah sex register so you can check the
figures if you like.
Utah is not a State that has a liking for male to male sex offenders.
Here is the URL of the Utah Sex registery if you wish to use other names
http://www.cr.ex.state.ut.us/community/sexoffenders/
The numbers do not reflect the odd numbers that the bigot brigade tend to
throw around about Gays molesting children, far from it and these numbers
are from a unbiased site that anyone can check out.
Now can anyone please explain why the heterosexuals rate so high in these
numbers, when the bigot brigade keep saying it is the gays who are the sex
offenders?
.
User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 05:25:54 PM
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message
news:EFpXi.8710$CN4.5905@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:0anXi.13636$4V6.5950@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.


[snip]

[plonk]


I have just checked out the Utah sex register on Smith and Jones,, I use
these because they are common names, please use any names you like.

I have excluded females (1 only) and any that the sex of the victim is not
shown.

The results are


http://corrections.Utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=smith&fname=&zip=&x=19&y=2


Smith

Sex offenders against female 18

Sex offenders against males 2


Jones


http://corrections.utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=Jones&fname=&zip=&x=20&y=8

Sex offenders against female 19

Sex offenders against males 2

That is a total of 37 male to female sex offenders against 4 male to male
sex offenders.

--------------------------------------

I did similar check a few years back with similar results.

I have posted the URLs for the Utah sex register so you can check the
figures if you like.

Utah is not a State that has a liking for male to male sex offenders.

Here is the URL of the Utah Sex registery if you wish to use other names

http://www.cr.ex.state.ut.us/community/sexoffenders/

The numbers do not reflect the odd numbers that the bigot brigade tend to
throw around about Gays molesting children, far from it and these numbers
are from a unbiased site that anyone can check out.

Now can anyone please explain why the heterosexuals rate so high in these
numbers, when the bigot brigade keep saying it is the gays who are the sex
offenders?

Thanks for looking this up, RamRod. I generally just don't even bother with
the blatant ***** that bigot trolls like 'Jay Kay' post.
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 05:31:51 PM
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:09:08 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
<RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote:

Now can anyone please explain why the heterosexuals rate so high in these
numbers, when the bigot brigade keep saying it is the gays who are the sex
offenders?

You mean ASIDE from the fact that one has to be stupid to be a bigot?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures
or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither
can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives
its physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egotism,
cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eter-
nity of life and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the exist-
ing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a
portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in
nature.
- Albert Einstein, as quoted in _Billions and Billions_, Carl Sagan.
.


User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 11:49:51 AM
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.


[snip]

[plonk]

"In 1998, Matthew Shepard a young gay man in Wyoming
was brutally attacked by two homophobic thugs and left
to die, tied to a fence post in subfreezing
temperatures. That story, quite properly, became a
nationwide media sensation.
"But not long after in 1999, a 13 year old boy named
Jesse Dirkhising is sadistically raped for hours, then
left to die by the gay couple who lived next door to
the boy and his single mother. The very news
organizations who promoted the Shepard story so
heavily—The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, CNN, CBS
and NBC— ignore this second story entirely.
"Still another manifestation of partisan coverage
involves the refusal on the part of many news
organizations to acknowledge that homosexuality plays a
role in the current sex abuse scandal rocking the
Catholic Church. 90% of the cases of abuse that have
come to light involve priests exploiting teen age boys,
not girls."
-- William McGowan
author, "Coloring the News"
http://www.coloringthenews.com/html/remarks_pri.html
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 05:30:19 PM
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza
<pipes@thedismalscience.net> wrote:

"Still another manifestation of partisan coverage
involves the refusal on the part of many news
organizations to acknowledge that homosexuality plays a
role in the current sex abuse scandal rocking the
Catholic Church. 90% of the cases of abuse that have
come to light involve priests exploiting teen age boys,
not girls."

Because there are very few altar girls so far. Opportunity is
gender-blind, bigotry isn't.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Given that you exist and that you are aware of your situation and
surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
.
User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 05 Nov 2007 08:53:35 PM
On Nov 4, 3:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza

<pi...@thedismalscience.net> wrote:

"Still another manifestation of partisan coverage
involves the refusal on the part of many news
organizations to acknowledge that homosexuality plays a
role in the current sex abuse scandal rocking the
Catholic Church. 90% of the cases of abuse that have
come to light involve priests exploiting teen age boys,
not girls."


Because there are very few altar girls so far.

Priests have ample opportunity to rape young girls, and most of the
victimized boys weren't altar boys.
Why are you defending homosexual predation?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 06 Nov 2007 07:39:06 AM
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:53:35 -0000, Rudy Canoza <notgenx32@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Nov 4, 3:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza

<pi...@thedismalscience.net> wrote:

"Still another manifestation of partisan coverage
involves the refusal on the part of many news
organizations to acknowledge that homosexuality plays a
role in the current sex abuse scandal rocking the
Catholic Church. 90% of the cases of abuse that have
come to light involve priests exploiting teen age boys,
not girls."


Because there are very few altar girls so far.


Priests have ample opportunity to rape young girls, and most of the
victimized boys weren't altar boys.

Why are you defending homosexual predation?

Why are you a moron?
<plonk>
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?"
- Voltaire
.



User: "Charlie Wilkes"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 03:47:42 PM
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the
two.


[snip]

[plonk]


"In 1998, Matthew Shepard a young gay man in Wyoming was brutally
attacked by two homophobic thugs and left to die, tied to a fence post
in subfreezing temperatures. That story, quite properly, became a
nationwide media sensation.

"But not long after in 1999, a 13 year old boy named Jesse Dirkhising is
sadistically raped for hours, then left to die by the gay couple who
lived next door to the boy and his single mother. The very news
organizations who promoted the Shepard story so heavily—The New York
Times, Los Angeles Times, CNN, CBS and NBC— ignore this second story
entirely.

This is loaded rhetoric. Look at all the stories about little girls that
get abducted, raped, and killed.
Charlie


"Still another manifestation of partisan coverage involves the refusal
on the part of many news organizations to acknowledge that homosexuality
plays a role in the current sex abuse scandal rocking the Catholic
Church. 90% of the cases of abuse that have come to light involve
priests exploiting teen age boys, not girls."

-- William McGowan
author, "Coloring the News"
http://www.coloringthenews.com/html/remarks_pri.html

.
User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 05 Nov 2007 08:50:37 PM
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the
two.

[snip]

[plonk]

"In 1998, Matthew Shepard a young gay man in Wyoming was brutally
attacked by two homophobic thugs and left to die, tied to a fence post
in subfreezing temperatures. That story, quite properly, became a
nationwide media sensation.

"But not long after in 1999, a 13 year old boy named Jesse Dirkhising is
sadistically raped for hours, then left to die by the gay couple who
lived next door to the boy and his single mother. The very news
organizations who promoted the Shepard story so heavily—The New York
Times, Los Angeles Times, CNN, CBS and NBC— ignore this second story
entirely.


This is loaded rhetoric.

No, it isn't.

Look at all the stories about little girls that
get abducted, raped, and killed.

Exactly - and the sexual orientation of the
perpetrators isn't swept under the rug.
.
User: "Charlie Wilkes"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 05 Nov 2007 10:38:00 PM
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:50:37 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Charlie Wilkes wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay
lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection
between the two.

[snip]

[plonk]

"In 1998, Matthew Shepard a young gay man in Wyoming was brutally
attacked by two homophobic thugs and left to die, tied to a fence post
in subfreezing temperatures. That story, quite properly, became a
nationwide media sensation.

"But not long after in 1999, a 13 year old boy named Jesse Dirkhising
is sadistically raped for hours, then left to die by the gay couple
who lived next door to the boy and his single mother. The very news
organizations who promoted the Shepard story so heavily—The New York
Times, Los Angeles Times, CNN, CBS and NBC— ignore this second story
entirely.


This is loaded rhetoric.


No, it isn't.


Look at all the stories about little girls that get abducted, raped,
and killed.


Exactly - and the sexual orientation of the perpetrators isn't swept
under the rug.

What is your point?
Charlie
.


User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 04 Nov 2007 09:49:26 PM
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:47:42 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
<charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:49:51 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

"But not long after in 1999, a 13 year old boy named Jesse Dirkhising is
sadistically raped for hours, then left to die by the gay couple who
lived next door to the boy and his single mother. The very news
organizations who promoted the Shepard story so heavily—The New York
Times, Los Angeles Times, CNN, CBS and NBC— ignore this second story
entirely.

This is loaded rhetoric. Look at all the stories about little girls that
get abducted, raped, and killed.

Doesn't support his bigotry, so it doesn't happen.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
- G W Bush (Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000)
.



User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 05 Nov 2007 08:52:45 PM
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.


[snip]

[plonk]

Nice whiff-off, queer.
.
User: "Jos"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 07 Nov 2007 07:44:08 AM
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:52:45 -0800, Rudy Canoza
<pipes@thedismalscience.net> wrote:

Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"Jay Kay Rowling" <homosexuals@pedophiles.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99DD8B0FC6F66NYC10451@4ax.com...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two.


[snip]

[plonk]


Nice whiff-off, queer.

Rudy, sweety,
is there any particular reason to inform us many times about your
obsession for homosexuality?
.



User: "Dysperdis"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 03 Nov 2007 05:11:23 PM
Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from
pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is
because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other
males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the
evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek
adolescent males or boys as sexual partners:

* Pedophiles are invariably males: A report by the American Professional
Society on the Abuse of Children states: "In both clinical and non-
clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male."1 The book
Sexual Offending Against Children reports that only 12 of 3,000
incarcerated pedophiles in England were women."2

* Significant numbers of victims are males: A study of 457 male sex
offenders against children in Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy found that
"approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual
activity against males."3

* Homosexuals comprise less than 3 percent of the population. Relying upon
three large data sets: the General Social Survey, the National Health and
Social Life Survey, and the U.S. census, a recent study in Demography
estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general
population at 2.5 percent, and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4
percent.4

* Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from
the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the
same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against
children. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found that although
heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1,
homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child
sex offenses.5

* Homosexuality and pedophilia are interrelated sexual behaviors: The
evidence does not support the argument that, by definition,
pedophiles cannot be considered homosexual because they are solely
interested in boys:

* Studies show that homosexual males are sexually attracted to underage
boys.6 In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen
Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals
surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years of
age or younger."7

* Conversely, studies also show that male homosexual pedophiles are
sexually attracted to adult males and engage in sexual relations with
adult homosexuals.8

* Studies also show that homosexual pedophiles enter into sexual
relationships with women, and that many either were married or had been
married at some time.9

* The historical Connection between Pedophilia and the Gay Rights
Movement: Homosexual activist, pedophile, and historian of the gay rights
movement, David Thorstad, writes: "Boy-lovers were involved in the gay
movement from the beginning, and their presence was tolerated. . . . There
was a mood of tolerance, even joy at discovering the myriad of lifestyles
within the gay and lesbian subculture."10 Pedophile groups were members of
the International Lesbian and Gay Association until the mid 1990's, when
that association cost ILGA it status as a Non-governmental organization
within the United Nations.

Pedophile Themes Abound in Gay Literature: The late "beat" poet Allen
Ginsberg was also a pedophile, whose poetry contained explicit references
to man-boy sex.11 Mary Eberstadt, writing in the Weekly Standard,
documents how anthologies of gay fiction as well as the Gay Men's Press
fiction bestseller list are replete with examples of pedophilic themes.12

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. is senior fellow for culture studies at the
Family Research Council.

NOTES
1. John Briere, et al., eds., The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment
(Thousand Oaks, California: Sage Publications, 1996), pp. 52, 53.
2. Dawn Fisher, "Adult Sex Offenders: Who are They? Why and How Do They Do
It?" in Tony Morrison, et al., eds., Sexual Offending Against Children
(London: Routledge, 1994), p. 11.
3. Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs.
Homosexuality," Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197.
4. Dan Black, et al., "Demographics of the Gay and Lesbian Population in
the United States: Evidence from Available Systematic Data Sources,"
Demography 37 (May 2000): 150.
5. Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age
Preference," p. 107. Cp. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey,
"Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and
Women," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67-76.
6. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age
Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," p. 70.
7. Karla Jay and Allen Young, The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak
Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (New York: Summit Books,
1979), p. 275
8. W. L. Marshall, et al., "Sexual Offenders against Male Children: Sexual
Preferences," p. 383; W. L. Marshall, et al., "Early Onset and Deviant
Sexuality in Child Molesters," Journal of Interpersonal Violence 6 (1991):
323-336
9. Elliott, p. 581.
10. Ibid., p. 253.
11. Raymond-Jean Frontain, "The Works of Allen Ginsberg," Journal of
Homosexuality 34 (1997).
12. Mary Eberstadt, "'Pedophilia Chic' Reconsidered" The Weekly Standard 6
(January 8, 2001).

"Dr. Carole Jenny reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the
sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse
clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from
July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult
in only 2 of the 269 cases in which an adult molester could be
identified - fewer than 1% (Jenny et al., 1994)."
"Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in
Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an
exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were
classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed
adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed
adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in
their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as
well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men
exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were
primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180). "
"In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to
children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and
heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of
various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research
subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically
mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the
model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were
accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude
models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and
the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models
described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To
measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were
monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes.
The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male
children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et
al., 1989)."
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
"Some characteristics of the typical pedophile or serial child sex abuser:
[...]
Often appear to be hard-working, family men"
http://www.post-gazette.com/newslinks/19991102profile.asp
"Child molestation is considered an offense of opportunity"
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/71947/child_molestation_in_criminal_law.html
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 03 Nov 2007 06:19:36 PM
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:40:31 +0000, Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia

You mean despite efforts of psychologists and psychiatrists to educate
idiots such as yourself, you're going to spew your ***** anyway.
Actual pedophilia is perpetrated against prepubescent males who, wait for
it:
Show no secondary male characteristics.
Get it?
(Nah, you're too stupid)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
.
User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 05 Nov 2007 08:53:35 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:40:31 +0000, Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia


You mean despite efforts of psychologists and psychiatrists to educate

That isn't education; it's propaganda.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 06 Nov 2007 10:48:15 AM
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:40:31 +0000, Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia


You mean despite efforts of psychologists and psychiatrists to educate


That isn't education; it's propaganda.

Except it's not.
Other than that...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable
in terms of the not worth knowing.”
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 06 Nov 2007 10:56:40 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:40:31 +0000, Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia

You mean despite efforts of psychologists and psychiatrists to educate

That isn't education; it's propaganda.


Except it's not.

It is.
.
User: "RamRod Sword of Baal"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 06 Nov 2007 02:26:17 PM
"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.net> wrote in message
news:13j1798j9upsf13@corp.supernews.com...

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:40:31 +0000, Jay Kay Rowling wrote:

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle
from pedophilia

You mean despite efforts of psychologists and psychiatrists to educate

That isn't education; it's propaganda.


Except it's not.


It is.

You repeatedly have made comments about just how many males offend sex wise
with other males.
Here are some more numbers, this time from the Texas sex registry, another
state that does not like male to male sex offenders
I once again chose Smith and Jones as the names, because they are common
names, but had to use the following, because the site does not allow you to
search without a first name, so I used :-
Smith A
Smith B
Jones A
Jones B
Again I have left out any females, and also any offender that does not have
the sex of the victim listed.
The results
Names Male to male offence Male to Female offence
Smith A 7 17
Smith B 2 27
Jones A 2 22
Jones B 1 21
Total 12
87
==============================================
If you wish to check the results here is the URL.
https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_WEB/Sor/index.aspx?PageIndex=Search&SubmitType=Name
As I have posted before the Utah Sex registry listings for Smith and Jones.
http://corrections.utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=smith&fname=&zip=&x=19&y=2
http://corrections.utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=Jones&fname=&zip=&x=20&y=8
They were :-
Names Male to male offence Male to Female offence
Smith 2 18
Jones 2 19
Total 4 37
============================================
Combining all the results we have :-
Male to male offence Male to Female offence
16 124
==================================
=============
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User: "Rudy Canoza"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 07 Nov 2007 12:54:33 AM
RamRod Sword of Baal, clearly a *****, bullshitted and
dissembled=:



Combining all the results we have :-

Male to male offence Male to Female offence

16 124

=========================================================

SO: about 7.75 to 1. But queer males are no more than
5% of the population, or about 19 to 1.
Conclusion: queers are FAR more likely to prey
sexually on children.
.
User: " Death"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 07 Nov 2007 11:41:39 AM
"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.net> wrote in message
news:13j2ocd37vj5h9d@corp.supernews.com...

RamRod Sword of Baal, clearly a *****, bullshitted and
dissembled=:



Combining all the results we have :-

Male to male offence Male to Female offence

16 124

=========================================================




SO: about 7.75 to 1. But queer males are no more than
5% of the population, or about 19 to 1.

Conclusion: queers are FAR more likely to prey
sexually on children.

As I have often told him. He is so proud of that fact that he will post
that every chance.
.
User: "RamRod Sword of Baal"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 07 Nov 2007 03:55:10 PM
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
news:5OmYi.29016$N7.22294@bignews7.bellsouth.net...


"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.net> wrote in message
news:13j2ocd37vj5h9d@corp.supernews.com...

RamRod Sword of Baal, clearly a *****, bullshitted and
dissembled=:



Combining all the results we have :-

Male to male offence Male to Female offence

16 124

=========================================================




SO: about 7.75 to 1. But queer males are no more than
5% of the population, or about 19 to 1.

Conclusion: queers are FAR more likely to prey
sexually on children.

I must have missed that post, and of course it is incorrect.

As I have often told him. He is so proud of that fact that he will post
that every chance.

How convenient for you both to lump all the male to male sex attack as Gay,
when they are not, many pedophiles are persons who will have sex with either
male or female victims, then there are bi-sexuals, and also the child
molesters of opportunity who if they are horny and the opportunity presents
itself will molest.
As said before my purpose of posting these numbers was to show just how far
off the track the Bigot Brigade are when they quote such numbers of 30 to
over 70%, clearly lies they have invented.
You people do not want facts, only ammunition to attack people you hate, and
will twist anything you can to get it, the truth for you is not something
you wish to hear.
.
User: " Death"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 08:08:27 AM
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message


... pedophiles are persons who will have sex with either
male or female victims, then there are bi-sexuals, ...

ahhh OK thanks
http://www.click2houston.com/health/14535083/detail.html
POSTED: 4:06 pm CST November 7, 2007
WASHINGTON -- New data on an experimental AIDS vaccine that failed to work
show volunteers who got the shots were far more likely to get infected with
the virus through sex or other risky behavior than those who got dummy
shots.
The new details, released Wednesday by drug maker Merck & Co., don't answer
the crucial question of whether failure of the vaccine also spells doom for
many similar AIDS vaccines now in testing.
And researchers weren't sure why more of the vaccinated volunteers wound up
getting HIV than those who got dummy shots.
Merck, based in Whitehouse Station, N.J., announced on Sept. 21 that it was
stopping the study because the vaccine didn't work. It was a stunning
setback in the push to develop an AIDS vaccine.
The vaccine is made from a common cold virus with three synthetic HIV genes
tucked inside. It's designed to stimulate the immune system to kill any
HIV-infected cells encountered in the future.
However, the researchers found that volunteers with pre-existing immunity
to this particular cold virus were much more likely to get infected with
HIV if they got the AIDS vaccine than if they got the dummy shot.
Some 3,000 people, mostly homosexual men and female sex workers, had
volunteered to get the experimental vaccine or dummy shots. All were warned
to protect themselves from AIDS exposure.
At the time the study was halted in September, Merck said 24 of 741
volunteers who got the vaccine in one segment of testing later developed
HIV; 21 of 762 participants who got dummy shots also were infected.
New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated men
became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy
shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men were infected.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 02:15:26 PM
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:

"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message
http://www.click2houston.com/health/14535083/detail.html

POSTED: 4:06 pm CST November 7, 2007

WASHINGTON -- New data on an experimental AIDS vaccine that failed to work
show volunteers who got the shots were far more likely to get infected with
the virus through sex or other risky behavior than those who got dummy
shots.
New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated men
became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy
shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men were infected.

"Death" snipped the paragraph that followed, which stated,
"In my mind, this doesn't damn anything," said Dr. Anthony
Fauci, head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases, said of the vaccine's failure. "It tells you you
need to be very careful with every aspect" of vaccine design
and testing.
What the news article didn't tell you is that the apparent increased
risk for the experimental vaccine could simply be a statistical
error. Ignoring the slightly different sample sizes, the difference
in the number of cases is 16, and the standard deviation in that
difference is about 9. A difference of 0 is within two standard
deviations of the measured value, so the evidence of any enhanced
risk for people who got the vaccine is very weak.
Newspapers often tout statistical noise as news because the reporters
don't understand the numbers.
.
User: " Death"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 07:08:42 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:

"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message


http://www.click2houston.com/health/14535083/detail.html


New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated

men

became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy
shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men were

infected.


"Death" snipped the paragraph that followed, which stated,

I didn't snip *****, that was only an opening to the provided url.
Call for your keeper next time you have a problem with your meds.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 08:22:30 PM
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:

"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message


http://www.click2houston.com/health/14535083/detail.html


New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated

men

became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy
shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men were

infected.


"Death" snipped the paragraph that followed, which stated,


I didn't snip *****, that was only an opening to the provided url.
Call for your keeper next time you have a problem with your meds.

Liar. You snipped
"In my mind, this doesn't damn anything," said Dr. Anthony
Fauci, head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases, said of the vaccine's failure. "It tells you you
need to be very careful with every aspect" of vaccine design
and testing.
I.e., what the press is ranting about is meaningless.
.
User: " Death"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 08:34:22 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:


I didn't snip *****, that was only an opening to the provided url.
Call for your keeper next time you have a problem with your meds.

.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 09:27:23 PM
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> writes:


I didn't snip *****, that was only an opening to the provided url.
Call for your keeper next time you have a problem with your meds.

Quoting his own rants and not adding anything? Typical of the idiot
"Death".
.





User: "RamRod Sword of Baal"

Title: Re: Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse 08 Nov 2007 12:33:51 PM
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
news:8MEYi.591$T7.506@bignews9.bellsouth.net...


"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message


... pedophiles are persons who will have sex with either
male or female victims, then there are bi-sexuals, ...


ahhh OK thanks

Don't mention it, always happy to be helpful.
.











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