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07 Sep 2005 04:17:28 PM |
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Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
1Timothy 1: 8-11.
We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with
the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for
the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane,
those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, the unchaste,
practicing homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else
is opposed to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the
blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
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| Title: Re: Heterosexual Terrorism |
13 Sep 2005 06:28:24 AM |
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On 13-Sep-2005, RetroProphet <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Heterosexuality is no longer necessary to have children.
Artificial Insemination is replacing it.
It'll never catch on...
It's expensive, not always guaranteed & not nearly as much fun!!
Susan
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
09 Sep 2005 07:50:08 PM |
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http://jdstone.org/cr/files/crucifixion_resurrectionchart_1.html
"Cary Kittrell" <> wrote in message
news:dfsiio$p8h$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
: In article <3fgUe.7$8h6.1@trnddc09> writes:
: >
: > On 8-Sep-2005, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
: >
: > > In article <lkPTe.19297$FO3.7354@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "øéòéï
: > > áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <news@riain.org> writes:
: > > > I am not a Christian, you stupid *****, nor a Muslim.
: > > >
: > > > Try again, you fucking thick git.
: > >
: > >
: > > Too true. Those who follow Riain's god were quite
: > > horrified when Jesus put the kibosh on easy
: > > divorce (for men, of course; doubly so when he
: > > pronounced celibacy superior to marriage.
: >
: > Quite wrong.
: > Those who follow Riain's G-d didn't pay one white of attention to
: > what anyone woutside Judaism says - same as today.
: > But you did amply demonstrate how what Xianity follows is
: > nothing like Judaism in very fundamental (pardon the expression)
ways.
:
: Well, I read that the local establishment was rather upset; after
: all, Jesus was regarded as a Jewish teacher, one with some rather
: radical ideas.
:
:
: That said, yes: I often wonder how Jews can avoid jumping up
: and screaming every time the phrase "Judeo-Christian" is used;
: I suspect the many Christians would be outraged if "Christo-Mormon"
: were to come into popular usage.
:
:
:
: -- cary
:
:
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
09 Sep 2005 07:50:37 PM |
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http://jdstone.org/cr/files/thecrucificion.html
THE CRUCIFICION
The immediate scene of the crucifixion offers several points of
conflict. Let it be remembered that we now have to do with the most
stupendous series of events in all time--if any of them ever happened at
all. The jewel of consistency should crown the inspired record of these
wonders. Amid all the miracles appealed to to accredit the story of the
death and resurrection of a God, the seal of God’s truth should blaze
upon this supreme miracle for the faith of mankind. Let us look for the
miracle of truth in these four records.
BEARING THE CROSS
Matthew (27.32), Mark (15.21), and Luke (23.26) say that on the way to
Golgotha with Jesus, one Simon a Cyrenian was “compelled to go with them
that he might bear his cross”; John, who says he was there, declares
(19.17) that Jesus himself, bearing the cross for himself, went forth to
Golgotha.
WHEN WAS IT?
The time of the crucifixion is greatly confused, both as to the day and
the hour of the day. Three of the gospel historians declare that the
Last Supper was itself the Passover meal; John says it was before the
Passover; and John, the most intimate friend of Jesus, who was with him
at the foot of the cross, says that be was crucified before the
Passover, and after noon: “And it was the preparation of the Passover,
and about the sixth hour” (19.14) when Jesus was delivered up to be
crucified (19.16); he was taken to Golgotha (19.17); and Pilate came and
wrote the inscription (19.19); so that the crucifixion took place some
time after noon, and before the Passover, “because it was the
preparation” (19.31). Thus Jesus did not eat the Passover. According to
the other three accounts, the crucifixion took place the day after the
Passover; a difference of two days.
Matthew says that the crucifixion lasted from noon to three o’clock:
“Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the
ninth hour” (Matthew 27.45). But Mark says: “It was the third hour [9
a.m.], and they crucified him” (Mark 15.25); though he joins Matthew in
making the dying cry come at the ninth hour, or 3 p.m. (15.34), as does
Luke (23.44); so that Jesus, according to two recorders, hung for three
hours on the cross; for six hours, according to Mark.
THE INSCRIPTION
Jesus was crucified with an inscription above his head. With respect to
this Matthew says:
“And [the soldiers who crucified Jesus) set up over his
head his accusation written, This is Jesus the King of the
Jews.” (Matthew 27.37)
Mark records:
“And the superscription of his accusation was written
over, The King of the Jews.” (Mark 15.26)
Luke says:
“And a superscription also was written over him in
letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This is the King of
the Jews.” (Luke 23.38)
John says:
“And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And
the writing was, Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
(John 19.19)
And John, who says he was there throughout, adds a totally new incident:
“Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write
not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the
Jews. Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.”
(John 19.21)
The inscription reads four different ways, with really vital differences
of text. Luke, who did not see it, and John (19.20) say that it was
written in three languages, on the order of the Rosetta Stone. Mark and
Luke say that the name of Jesus was not in the inscription, which simply
read: “This is the King of the Jews”; Mark makes it even more laconic by
omitting the first two words. Matthew declares that it named Jesus; John
asserts that it gave him both name and title, “Jesus of Nazareth, the
King of the Jews.” Matthew says that the soldiers who crucified Jesus
set up the inscription; Mark and Luke say simply that it “was written,”
without indicating its writer; John flatly contradicts Matthew’s
statement that the soldiers did it, declaring that Pilate wrote it and
put it on the cross. The colloquy about the text between Pilate and the
chief priests, recorded by John (19.21), is evidently apocryphal, as
Pilate certainly was not present, and it may be doubted that the chief
priests were there either.
THE WITNESSES
It would seem to be of great importance to know who were witnesses to
that awful scene of a dying God; but the accounts are too variant and
contradictory to satisfy a just interest. All the recorders speak of
passers-by, soldiers, chief priests, scribes and elders of the Jews, and
John makes Pilate present. That no Jews were or could be present is
asserted by scholars versed in Jewish customs and tradition. These holy
gentry would not so much as enter into the judgment hall of Pilate to
press their accusations against Jesus “lest they should be defiled”
(John 17.28); much less would they defile their pure selves by
witnessing the murder they had procured, even if permitted to do so.
Probably only the Roman soldiery was present, with chance passers-by and
some of the pagan populace. The three synoptists speak of “the
centurion” and his remarkable testimony. A centurion was an important
officer, commander of one hundred men, a captain of a company of
soldiers. There were but four soldiers (John 19.23) present, and it is
hardly likely that a company commander was sent in charge of a corporal’s
squad of four men to execute two thieves and one Christ.
The friends and followers of Jesus who witnessed the fatal scene deserve
our attention more; but we can never know who they were. John, who
claims to have been on the spot, says that only “there stood by the
cross of Jesus” three Marys, “his mother, and his mother’s sister [both
oddly named Mary], and Mary Magdalene” (John 19.25); and that Jesus,
pointing to John, said: “Woman, behold thy son” (19.26, 27). But John
was not present, according to the silence of all the other gospel
truth-bearers. Matthew, who was not there, bears record of “many women
.... which followed Jesus from Galilee: ... Among which was Mary
Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses [he does not call her
the mother, too, of Jesus]--and the mother of Zebedee’s children”
(Matthew 27.55, 56). Mark gives the list differently: “Among whom was
Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and
Salome, and many other women” (Mark 15.40, 41). Both Matthew and Mark
declare that this whole troupe of women “were there beholding afar off,”
“looking on from afar”--therefore not “standing by the cross” at all, as
John says they were. And Luke too testifies that not only “the women
that followed him from Galilee” but also “all his acquaintance” with
them “stood afar off, beholding these things” (Luke 23.49). How the
ladies could have seen these things from afar is not clear, for we are
assured by the Holy Ghost, through three historians of the scene, that
during the whole time that Jesus hung on the cross “from the sixth hour
there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour” (Matthew
27.45; Mark 15.33; Luke 23.44); though John, who was present throughout,
didn’t see the darkness and eclipse, nor any of the other wonders to be
noted.
John alone of the delectable Twelve was present at the final tragedy,
according to him; all the disciples (himself included) at Gethsemane
“forsook him and fled” (Matthew 26.56; Mark 14.50); all except Judas,
who maybe, went and hanged himself. One traitor and eleven craven
cowards were the holy apostles of the Son of God. A God might have
foreknown their mean characters and have chosen honest and loyal men for
his suite.
And to think on such as this, Christians bet their eternity.
As Phineas Taylor Barnum was alleged to have said “There is a sucker
born every minute, and two to take him.”
Anyone who honestly studies the New Testament will realize that it is no
more than fiction, a story plagiarizing pagan mythology. Christianity
serves no function except to remove a person from the knowledge and love
of his Creator, and delivers him straight into a waiting pagan dead
man-god idol.
Yes, P. T Barnum was right!
"Cary Kittrell" <> wrote in message
news:dfsiio$p8h$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
: In article <3fgUe.7$8h6.1@trnddc09> writes:
: >
: > On 8-Sep-2005, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
: >
: > > In article <lkPTe.19297$FO3.7354@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "øéòéï
: > > áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <news@riain.org> writes:
: > > > I am not a Christian, you stupid *****, nor a Muslim.
: > > >
: > > > Try again, you fucking thick git.
: > >
: > >
: > > Too true. Those who follow Riain's god were quite
: > > horrified when Jesus put the kibosh on easy
: > > divorce (for men, of course; doubly so when he
: > > pronounced celibacy superior to marriage.
: >
: > Quite wrong.
: > Those who follow Riain's G-d didn't pay one white of attention to
: > what anyone woutside Judaism says - same as today.
: > But you did amply demonstrate how what Xianity follows is
: > nothing like Judaism in very fundamental (pardon the expression)
ways.
:
: Well, I read that the local establishment was rather upset; after
: all, Jesus was regarded as a Jewish teacher, one with some rather
: radical ideas.
:
:
: That said, yes: I often wonder how Jews can avoid jumping up
: and screaming every time the phrase "Judeo-Christian" is used;
: I suspect the many Christians would be outraged if "Christo-Mormon"
: were to come into popular usage.
:
:
:
: -- cary
:
:
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
08 Sep 2005 09:59:09 AM |
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On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
/Riain Barton wrote:
He doesn't have a god.
Yes, he does. It's the same "god" you, xians and muslims believe in.
Live with that.
If you want to be ignorant, for crying out loud, don't marry it to arrogance
- it only makes you look dumber.
Susan
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| User: "Olrik" |
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08 Sep 2005 11:06:49 AM |
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wrote:
On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
/Riain Barton wrote:
He doesn't have a god.
Yes, he does. It's the same "god" you, xians and muslims believe in.
Live with that.
If you want to be ignorant, for crying out loud, don't marry it to arrogance
- it only makes you look dumber.
Granted, I'm not an expert in these matters. If they all claim that
there's only one "god", then they worship the same one, or there are
three "gods", or, for me, none at all.
Or maybe religion is just another way for people to hate each other...
Susan
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
09 Sep 2005 08:32:47 AM |
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On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
/Riain Barton wrote:
He doesn't have a god.
Yes, he does. It's the same "god" you, xians and muslims believe in.
Live with that.
If you want to be ignorant, for crying out loud, don't marry it to
arrogance
- it only makes you look dumber.
Granted, I'm not an expert in these matters. If they all claim that
there's only one "god", then they worship the same one, or there are
three "gods", or, for me, none at all.
Ah, I see your point.
My point is that what they worship isn;t remotely like what we worship.
Or maybe religion is just another way for people to hate each other...
Somedays it seems just like that.
Susan
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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09 Sep 2005 07:49:54 PM |
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http://jdstone.org/cr/files/crucifixion_resurrectionchart_1.html
<> wrote in message news:3agUe.4$8h6.0@trnddc09...
:
: On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
:
: > wrote:
: >
: > > On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
: > >
: > >
: > >>/Riain Barton wrote:
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>>He doesn't have a god.
: > >>
: > >>Yes, he does. It's the same "god" you, xians and muslims believe
in.
: > >>Live with that.
: > >
: > >
: > > If you want to be ignorant, for crying out loud, don't marry it to
: > > arrogance
: > > - it only makes you look dumber.
: >
: > Granted, I'm not an expert in these matters. If they all claim that
: > there's only one "god", then they worship the same one, or there are
: > three "gods", or, for me, none at all.
:
: Ah, I see your point.
: My point is that what they worship isn;t remotely like what we
worship.
:
: >
: > Or maybe religion is just another way for people to hate each
other...
:
: Somedays it seems just like that.
:
: Susan
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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09 Sep 2005 07:49:36 PM |
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http://jdstone.org/cr/files/thecrucificion.html
THE CRUCIFICION
The immediate scene of the crucifixion offers several points of
conflict. Let it be remembered that we now have to do with the most
stupendous series of events in all time--if any of them ever happened at
all. The jewel of consistency should crown the inspired record of these
wonders. Amid all the miracles appealed to to accredit the story of the
death and resurrection of a God, the seal of God’s truth should blaze
upon this supreme miracle for the faith of mankind. Let us look for the
miracle of truth in these four records.
BEARING THE CROSS
Matthew (27.32), Mark (15.21), and Luke (23.26) say that on the way to
Golgotha with Jesus, one Simon a Cyrenian was “compelled to go with them
that he might bear his cross”; John, who says he was there, declares
(19.17) that Jesus himself, bearing the cross for himself, went forth to
Golgotha.
WHEN WAS IT?
The time of the crucifixion is greatly confused, both as to the day and
the hour of the day. Three of the gospel historians declare that the
Last Supper was itself the Passover meal; John says it was before the
Passover; and John, the most intimate friend of Jesus, who was with him
at the foot of the cross, says that be was crucified before the
Passover, and after noon: “And it was the preparation of the Passover,
and about the sixth hour” (19.14) when Jesus was delivered up to be
crucified (19.16); he was taken to Golgotha (19.17); and Pilate came and
wrote the inscription (19.19); so that the crucifixion took place some
time after noon, and before the Passover, “because it was the
preparation” (19.31). Thus Jesus did not eat the Passover. According to
the other three accounts, the crucifixion took place the day after the
Passover; a difference of two days.
Matthew says that the crucifixion lasted from noon to three o’clock:
“Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the
ninth hour” (Matthew 27.45). But Mark says: “It was the third hour [9
a.m.], and they crucified him” (Mark 15.25); though he joins Matthew in
making the dying cry come at the ninth hour, or 3 p.m. (15.34), as does
Luke (23.44); so that Jesus, according to two recorders, hung for three
hours on the cross; for six hours, according to Mark.
THE INSCRIPTION
Jesus was crucified with an inscription above his head. With respect to
this Matthew says:
“And [the soldiers who crucified Jesus) set up over his
head his accusation written, This is Jesus the King of the
Jews.” (Matthew 27.37)
Mark records:
“And the superscription of his accusation was written
over, The King of the Jews.” (Mark 15.26)
Luke says:
“And a superscription also was written over him in
letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This is the King of
the Jews.” (Luke 23.38)
John says:
“And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And
the writing was, Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
(John 19.19)
And John, who says he was there throughout, adds a totally new incident:
“Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write
not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the
Jews. Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.”
(John 19.21)
The inscription reads four different ways, with really vital differences
of text. Luke, who did not see it, and John (19.20) say that it was
written in three languages, on the order of the Rosetta Stone. Mark and
Luke say that the name of Jesus was not in the inscription, which simply
read: “This is the King of the Jews”; Mark makes it even more laconic by
omitting the first two words. Matthew declares that it named Jesus; John
asserts that it gave him both name and title, “Jesus of Nazareth, the
King of the Jews.” Matthew says that the soldiers who crucified Jesus
set up the inscription; Mark and Luke say simply that it “was written,”
without indicating its writer; John flatly contradicts Matthew’s
statement that the soldiers did it, declaring that Pilate wrote it and
put it on the cross. The colloquy about the text between Pilate and the
chief priests, recorded by John (19.21), is evidently apocryphal, as
Pilate certainly was not present, and it may be doubted that the chief
priests were there either.
THE WITNESSES
It would seem to be of great importance to know who were witnesses to
that awful scene of a dying God; but the accounts are too variant and
contradictory to satisfy a just interest. All the recorders speak of
passers-by, soldiers, chief priests, scribes and elders of the Jews, and
John makes Pilate present. That no Jews were or could be present is
asserted by scholars versed in Jewish customs and tradition. These holy
gentry would not so much as enter into the judgment hall of Pilate to
press their accusations against Jesus “lest they should be defiled”
(John 17.28); much less would they defile their pure selves by
witnessing the murder they had procured, even if permitted to do so.
Probably only the Roman soldiery was present, with chance passers-by and
some of the pagan populace. The three synoptists speak of “the
centurion” and his remarkable testimony. A centurion was an important
officer, commander of one hundred men, a captain of a company of
soldiers. There were but four soldiers (John 19.23) present, and it is
hardly likely that a company commander was sent in charge of a corporal’s
squad of four men to execute two thieves and one Christ.
The friends and followers of Jesus who witnessed the fatal scene deserve
our attention more; but we can never know who they were. John, who
claims to have been on the spot, says that only “there stood by the
cross of Jesus” three Marys, “his mother, and his mother’s sister [both
oddly named Mary], and Mary Magdalene” (John 19.25); and that Jesus,
pointing to John, said: “Woman, behold thy son” (19.26, 27). But John
was not present, according to the silence of all the other gospel
truth-bearers. Matthew, who was not there, bears record of “many women
.... which followed Jesus from Galilee: ... Among which was Mary
Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses [he does not call her
the mother, too, of Jesus]--and the mother of Zebedee’s children”
(Matthew 27.55, 56). Mark gives the list differently: “Among whom was
Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and
Salome, and many other women” (Mark 15.40, 41). Both Matthew and Mark
declare that this whole troupe of women “were there beholding afar off,”
“looking on from afar”--therefore not “standing by the cross” at all, as
John says they were. And Luke too testifies that not only “the women
that followed him from Galilee” but also “all his acquaintance” with
them “stood afar off, beholding these things” (Luke 23.49). How the
ladies could have seen these things from afar is not clear, for we are
assured by the Holy Ghost, through three historians of the scene, that
during the whole time that Jesus hung on the cross “from the sixth hour
there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour” (Matthew
27.45; Mark 15.33; Luke 23.44); though John, who was present throughout,
didn’t see the darkness and eclipse, nor any of the other wonders to be
noted.
John alone of the delectable Twelve was present at the final tragedy,
according to him; all the disciples (himself included) at Gethsemane
“forsook him and fled” (Matthew 26.56; Mark 14.50); all except Judas,
who maybe, went and hanged himself. One traitor and eleven craven
cowards were the holy apostles of the Son of God. A God might have
foreknown their mean characters and have chosen honest and loyal men for
his suite.
And to think on such as this, Christians bet their eternity.
As Phineas Taylor Barnum was alleged to have said “There is a sucker
born every minute, and two to take him.”
Anyone who honestly studies the New Testament will realize that it is no
more than fiction, a story plagiarizing pagan mythology. Christianity
serves no function except to remove a person from the knowledge and love
of his Creator, and delivers him straight into a waiting pagan dead
man-god idol.
Yes, P. T Barnum was right!
<> wrote in message news:3agUe.4$8h6.0@trnddc09...
:
: On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
:
: > wrote:
: >
: > > On 8-Sep-2005, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote:
: > >
: > >
: > >>/Riain Barton wrote:
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>>He doesn't have a god.
: > >>
: > >>Yes, he does. It's the same "god" you, xians and muslims believe
in.
: > >>Live with that.
: > >
: > >
: > > If you want to be ignorant, for crying out loud, don't marry it to
: > > arrogance
: > > - it only makes you look dumber.
: >
: > Granted, I'm not an expert in these matters. If they all claim that
: > there's only one "god", then they worship the same one, or there are
: > three "gods", or, for me, none at all.
:
: Ah, I see your point.
: My point is that what they worship isn;t remotely like what we
worship.
:
: >
: > Or maybe religion is just another way for people to hate each
other...
:
: Somedays it seems just like that.
:
: Susan
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality Is A Sin. Conclusion. |
08 Sep 2005 10:30:04 AM |
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On 7 Sep 2005 14:17:28 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
1Timothy 1: 8-11.
We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with
the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for
the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane,
those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, the unchaste,
practicing homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else
is opposed to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the
blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
Schizophrenia. There is treatment available.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:53:53 AM |
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On 7 Sep 2005 14:17:28 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
1Timothy 1: 8-11.
We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with
the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for
the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane,
those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, the unchaste,
practicing homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else
is opposed to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the
blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
God must be held responsible for what he has created.
Barry
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09 Sep 2005 12:29:02 AM |
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Barry OGrady wrote:
On 7 Sep 2005 14:17:28 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
1Timothy 1: 8-11.
We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with
the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for
the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane,
those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, the unchaste,
practicing homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else
is opposed to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the
blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
God must be held responsible for what he has created.
You me and every other living thing came through the evolutionary process and
certainly not created by an imaginary god that looks like we arrogant Humans.
evolution gave us the ape look alikes and we got a freak brain like the giraffe got a
freak neck.
Ever seen a picture of a grossly deformed human fetus? The mother never gets to see
it, it is too horrible. Your god made THAT!?
I'll show you a gorilla aborted fetus next to a human aborted fetus and you will not
be smart enough to tell the difference
Grow up
bob
Humanist brit.
hong kong
Slowly, the pendulum is shifting away from superstition and toward scientific fact.
We need to let nature run its course. No point in spending all of one's energy
arguing with people whose minds are tightly shut. Better to use our energies to
improve things in the here and now.
[Charles F. Haanel]
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty
[Bertrand Russell 1892-1970]
Barry
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07 Sep 2005 05:46:49 PM |
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but murder is okay.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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07 Sep 2005 07:34:26 PM |
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Only if it is an idiot like you
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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08 Sep 2005 03:24:00 AM |
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On 7-Sep-2005, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Only if it is an idiot like you
Riain, it's anti-fundie sarcasm!!
Susan
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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08 Sep 2005 04:01:44 PM |
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Uh -- no it isn't -- this person claims that HaShem goes around
murdering people.
You obviously have not read all of "ITs" posts.
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08 Sep 2005 01:21:18 AM |
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the conclusion is that you're a nasty excuse for a human.
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