Religions > Atheism > Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm Lui
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Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm
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By ***** Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 23 May 2007 0607 hrs
SINGAPORE : The issue of homosexuality will always bring out tensions
in society, says Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew.
And this is why, he adds, it is important to allow the people to come
to their own conclusions about the matter.
Rear-Admiral Lui made this point when he was asked about homosexuality
at a dialogue session at the annual Pre-University Seminar held at the
Nanyang Technological University.
600 students from 26 institutions are taking part in the event.
RAdm Lui said: "We can't be stiff-necked. We need to be open to ideas
but we have to come to our conclusions through the framework in
Singapore. That's why it is important to have our own deep convictions
and beliefs."
He added that he does not subscribe to the theory that it is a
"medical condition". "Do you excuse paedophiles or psychopaths because
of a medical condition?" RAdm Lui asked.
RAdm Lui said: "To me there are certain norms in society. And before
we make major shift of those norms it is important that we sit and
deliberate, and think through it carefully and move at a pace that
society allows us to move.
"It does not mean that we should not try to reshape the thinking and
so on and so forth, but we can only move at the pace at which society
allows us to move. That's my own personal thoughts about it, and I
don't think... certainly... I am not ready to move and I do not think
a major segment of society is ready to move". - CNA/de
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/277824/1/.html
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25 May 2007 11:09:13 PM |
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"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm
Lui
Obsession with anything is unhealthy and may cause tension.
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26 May 2007 12:15:30 AM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 05:09:13 +0100, Lee wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm Lui
Obsession with anything is unhealthy and may cause tension.
Many of the very same churches that attack two men living together in a
homosexual relationship engage in occult practices that include a debased
form of homosexuality...
Do you really think that they are wealthy and powerful, because they love
and follow Jesus?
They use a form of bait and switch...
They are guilty of an astounding hypocrisy.
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25 May 2007 04:35:10 PM |
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On 25 Mai, 20:55, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm
Lui
By ***** Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 23 May 2007 0607 hrs
SINGAPORE : The issue of homosexuality will always bring out tensions
in society, says Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew.
And this is why, he adds, it is important to allow the people to come
to their own conclusions about the matter.
Rear-Admiral Lui made this point when he was asked about homosexuality
at a dialogue session at the annual Pre-University Seminar held at the
Nanyang Technological University.
600 students from 26 institutions are taking part in the event.
RAdm Lui said: "We can't be stiff-necked. We need to be open to ideas
but we have to come to our conclusions through the framework in
Singapore. That's why it is important to have our own deep convictions
and beliefs."
He added that he does not subscribe to the theory that it is a
"medical condition". "Do you excuse paedophiles or psychopaths because
of a medical condition?" RAdm Lui asked.
RAdm Lui said: "To me there are certain norms in society. And before
we make major shift of those norms it is important that we sit and
deliberate, and think through it carefully and move at a pace that
society allows us to move.
"It does not mean that we should not try to reshape the thinking and
so on and so forth, but we can only move at the pace at which society
allows us to move. That's my own personal thoughts about it, and I
don't think... certainly... I am not ready to move and I do not think
a major segment of society is ready to move". - CNA/de
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/277824...
Not even 24 hours... That's the longest you can stay without sending
something about homosexuality.
And you dare to pretend that you are not gay...
Yeah, right!!!!!
Get out of the fucking closet, boob.
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26 May 2007 02:50:43 AM |
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On 25 May 2007 14:35:10 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
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On 25 Mai, 20:55, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm
Lui
By ***** Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 23 May 2007 0607 hrs
SINGAPORE : The issue of homosexuality will always bring out tensions
in society, says Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew.
And this is why, he adds, it is important to allow the people to come
to their own conclusions about the matter.
Rear-Admiral Lui made this point when he was asked about homosexuality
at a dialogue session at the annual Pre-University Seminar held at the
Nanyang Technological University.
600 students from 26 institutions are taking part in the event.
RAdm Lui said: "We can't be stiff-necked. We need to be open to ideas
but we have to come to our conclusions through the framework in
Singapore. That's why it is important to have our own deep convictions
and beliefs."
He added that he does not subscribe to the theory that it is a
"medical condition". "Do you excuse paedophiles or psychopaths because
of a medical condition?" RAdm Lui asked.
RAdm Lui said: "To me there are certain norms in society. And before
we make major shift of those norms it is important that we sit and
deliberate, and think through it carefully and move at a pace that
society allows us to move.
"It does not mean that we should not try to reshape the thinking and
so on and so forth, but we can only move at the pace at which society
allows us to move. That's my own personal thoughts about it, and I
don't think... certainly... I am not ready to move and I do not think
a major segment of society is ready to move". - CNA/de
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/277824...
Not even 24 hours... That's the longest you can stay without sending
something about homosexuality.
And you dare to pretend that you are not gay...
Yeah, right!!!!!
Get out of the fucking closet, boob.
It's so comical when a homosexual tries to insult someone by calling
them a homosexual. It clearly demonstrates your self-hatred your low
self-esteem.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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27 May 2007 07:42:38 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 07:50:43 +0000, leroyblue wrote:
On 25 May 2007 14:35:10 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 25 Mai, 20:55, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm
Lui
By ***** Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 23 May 2007 0607 hrs
SINGAPORE : The issue of homosexuality will always bring out tensions
in society, says Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew.
And this is why, he adds, it is important to allow the people to come
to their own conclusions about the matter.
Rear-Admiral Lui made this point when he was asked about homosexuality
at a dialogue session at the annual Pre-University Seminar held at the
Nanyang Technological University.
600 students from 26 institutions are taking part in the event.
RAdm Lui said: "We can't be stiff-necked. We need to be open to ideas
but we have to come to our conclusions through the framework in
Singapore. That's why it is important to have our own deep convictions
and beliefs."
He added that he does not subscribe to the theory that it is a
"medical condition". "Do you excuse paedophiles or psychopaths because
of a medical condition?" RAdm Lui asked.
RAdm Lui said: "To me there are certain norms in society. And before
we make major shift of those norms it is important that we sit and
deliberate, and think through it carefully and move at a pace that
society allows us to move.
"It does not mean that we should not try to reshape the thinking and
so on and so forth, but we can only move at the pace at which society
allows us to move. That's my own personal thoughts about it, and I
don't think... certainly... I am not ready to move and I do not think
a major segment of society is ready to move". - CNA/de
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/277824...
Not even 24 hours... That's the longest you can stay without sending
something about homosexuality.
And you dare to pretend that you are not gay...
Yeah, right!!!!!
Get out of the fucking closet, boob.
It's so comical when a homosexual tries to insult someone by calling
them a homosexual. It clearly demonstrates your self-hatred your low
self-esteem.
Actually, he seems to be calling him a _repressed_ homosexual, and the
criticism isn't about his being gay, but being obsessed and in denial.
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Then... Then! That's when I start to experience these black outs. I
wake up in the organ loft of some church, blood stains all over me,
shirt missing, hair a mess, and three days have gone by! And I don't
know HOW I GOT THERE!' - Fred Rice
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25 May 2007 04:00:02 PM |
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
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You don't have a messiah. You have a dead god on a stick. -- God Dan
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25 May 2007 04:05:33 PM |
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"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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25 May 2007 05:45:25 PM |
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In article <WuCdncYDLL4C0srbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
please post evidence that such "bigotry" exists.
as you said:
"If you are going to make the claim, prove it. "
coward bobby heishman posting as osprey
news:8912d58d.0307090126.4a25ab87@posting.google.com:
as you also said:
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
as you have offered no proof of your allegation, you clearly wish all
readers to consider it just another lie.
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get real. like jesus would ever own a gun or vote republican.
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26 May 2007 08:14:40 AM |
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On May 25, 6:45=EF=BF=BDpm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrot=
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In article <WuCdncYDLL4C0srbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdn...@comcast.com>,
=A0"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What bigotry would that be?
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26 May 2007 08:23:05 AM |
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On 26 Mai, 15:14, bob&carole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On May 25, 6:45?pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <WuCdncYDLL4C0srbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdn...@comcast.com>,
?"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What bigotry would that be?
Self-loathing homophobia, to start with...
Then racism...
Shall I go on?
Tell us, gaybob, are you an idiot or do you play "idiot"?
Either way, I don't really get what you want us to think of you...
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26 May 2007 08:37:14 AM |
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On May 26, 9:23?am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Mai, 15:14, bob&carole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On May 25, 6:45?pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <WuCdncYDLL4C0srbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdn...@comcast.com>,
?"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What bigotry would that be?
Self-loathing homophobia, to start with...
Then racism...
Shall I go on?
Tell us, gaybob, are you an idiot or do you play "idiot"?
Either way, I don't really get what you want us to think of you.
It isn't considered bigotry to lothe homosexual perversion
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26 May 2007 08:49:13 AM |
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On May 26, 6:37 am, bob&carole noted webtv fuckheads wrote some more
***** to draw attention to himself
It isn't considered bigotry to lothe homosexual perversion- Hide quoted text -
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Nothing seems to interest Bobbin Bob except his deeply hidden latent
homosexuality, or has he finally decided to ***** out of his closet and
proclaim to all his desires to suck *****?
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26 May 2007 01:40:24 AM |
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On 25 Mai, 23:05, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
Once again, Osprey sides with homophobes, racists and bigots...
Why are you defending him?
Funny that you always attack those who criticize J Young and gaybob...
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Of course we know that.
But you do realize that some of these "who are religious" like J
Young, gaybob and convict Wentzky -who think they are good christians-
are also the biggest bigots.
Please, cite one racist posting from any of the regular atheist
contributors. One homophonic posting...
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
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26 May 2007 02:53:46 AM |
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On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
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Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
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26 May 2007 08:21:12 AM |
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On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
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26 May 2007 12:24:08 PM |
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On 26 May 2007 06:21:12 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
Like it or not, little man, you don't get to decide who is what, you
like everyone else get to have an opinion. Yours of course holds
little sway since you are a KNOW intolerant bigot.
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26 May 2007 05:46:19 PM |
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On 26 Mai, 19:24, wrote:
On 26 May 2007 06:21:12 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
Like it or not, little man, you don't get to decide who is what, you
like everyone else get to have an opinion. Yours of course holds
little sway since you are a KNOW intolerant bigot
Please, give an example of my KNOW (sic) intolerant bigotry...
And, yes, I can decide who's bigoted or not because, so far, I've
never sent one racist posting, one homophobic posting or one
antisemite posting which gives me a certain moral advantage over J
Young the hypocrite turd, gayboob, convict Wentzky, Osprey-the-liar,
Duke the village idiot or you, the lemming.
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26 May 2007 05:52:43 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 26 Mai, 19:24, wrote:
On 26 May 2007 06:21:12 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your
sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
Like it or not, little man, you don't get to decide who is what, you
like everyone else get to have an opinion. Yours of course holds
little sway since you are a KNOW intolerant bigot
Please, give an example of my KNOW (sic) intolerant bigotry...
And, yes, I can decide who's bigoted or not because, so far, I've
never sent one racist posting, one homophobic posting or one
antisemite posting which gives me a certain moral advantage over J
Young the hypocrite turd, gayboob, convict Wentzky, Osprey-the-liar,
Duke the village idiot or you, the lemming.
Oooh...someone got Parsifal's panties in a bunch...<snicker>
Your comments about Republicans, is one good example of your bigotry.
Look up the term bigotry, it's a hard word for you...and learn what the term
means.
Yes, you are a bigot and you are intolerant.
And a loon, after reading your latest rant.
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28 May 2007 12:00:45 PM |
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On 27 Mai, 00:52, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180219579.040281.191550@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 26 Mai, 19:24, wrote:
On 26 May 2007 06:21:12 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your
sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
Like it or not, little man, you don't get to decide who is what, you
like everyone else get to have an opinion. Yours of course holds
little sway since you are a KNOW intolerant bigot
Please, give an example of my KNOW (sic) intolerant bigotry...
And, yes, I can decide who's bigoted or not because, so far, I've
never sent one racist posting, one homophobic posting or one
antisemite posting which gives me a certain moral advantage over J
Young the hypocrite turd, gayboob, convict Wentzky, Osprey-the-liar,
Duke the village idiot or you, the lemming.
Oooh...someone got Parsifal's panties in a bunch...<snicker>
Not really. But if it amuses you to think so...
Your comments about Republicans, is one good example of your bigotry.
What did I write?
Yes, I attack more the Republicans because they are the one posturing
as the "moral" ones.
I'm merely pointing to their hypocrisy.
That's not "bigotry". It's calling a liar a liar.
Look up the term bigotry, it's a hard word for you...and learn what the term
means.
I only need to read some of the postings sent here by "good
christians".
Yes, you are a bigot and you are intolerant.
Against whom?
Against racists? Yes I am, and I proud of it.
Against homophobes? Yes, and I am proud of it.
Against hypocrites like you? Yes, and I am proud of it.
Against ignorants morons who want to teach children what the planet
was created in six days? Yes I am, and I am proud of it.
So, I'll continue calling J Young a nazi, bobandcarol a *****,
Wentzky a pervert and you a hypocrite.
And a loon, after reading your latest rant
Once hypocrite, always a hypocrite, heh Osprey?
You still can't produce ONE racist or intolerant posting that I may
have written...
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26 May 2007 06:37:32 PM |
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On 26 May 2007 15:46:19 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 19:24, wrote:
On 26 May 2007 06:21:12 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 26 Mai, 09:53, wrote:
On 25 May 2007 23:40:24 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why don't you attack these human turds who give bad press to your sect
instead of us who merely point to their hypocrisy?
You're haven't pointing out anything, you have only demonstrated your
intolerance and bigotry.
Calling a racist "racist" is intolerant?
Calling a homophobe "homophobe" is bigoted?
WTF are you talking about?
Oh, and keep on defending J Young, boob and Wentzky... you demonstrate
quite well that the biggest bigots here are the one who call
themselves "decent" and "good christian"...
Like it or not, little man, you don't get to decide who is what, you
like everyone else get to have an opinion. Yours of course holds
little sway since you are a KNOW intolerant bigot
Please, give an example
No Problem, little man. From your recent post:
"... intolerant bigotry... And, yes, I can decide who's bigoted or
not because, so far, I've never sent one racist posting, one
homophobic posting or one antisemite posting which gives me a certain
moral advantage over J Young the hypocrite turd, gayboob, convict
Wentzky, Osprey-the-liar, Duke the village idiot or you, the lemming."
Want more? Post more.
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25 May 2007 05:50:35 PM |
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:05:33 -0400, "Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
No, but the ones who are the greatest pains in the arse typically are.
They often go out of their way to post on atheist news groups--that is
almost their trademark activity.
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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26 May 2007 12:45:02 AM |
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:05:33 -0400, Osprey wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Did I say they were? I said "the religions which..." which allows for
those which don't.
Take, for example, Wicca; in my exposure to it, it has never condoned or
promoted bigotry; thus there are - as far as I'm aware, at least - some
religions which don't.
I'm sure you had a point there somewhere, but not sure what it was.
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your life
time or mine anyway.
True; some folks persist in clinging to empty superstition no matter how
untenable a position that is.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Well, that would be me. See, "sin" is a religious concept, and I'm not a
religious man.
Again, I'm sure you had a point there somewhere, but not sure what it was.
--
WHEN YOU DIE, YOU'RE GOING TO HELL, AND ARE GOING TO PERMANENTLY
SUFFER DOWN THERE. AND I'LL BE LAUGHING AT ALL THE ATHEIST BASTARDS IN
THIS ECHO, WHEN I'M UP IN HEAVEN. - Christopher Calabrese
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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26 May 2007 01:55:59 AM |
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On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.
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| User: "osprey" |
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26 May 2007 02:02:49 AM |
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On May 26, 2:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.-
God is good.
Religion can be evil.
Man made religion, man is intollerant. And I have found intellerance
on all sides...not just in religion.
The problem most people have, is just admitting it. I see so much
bigotry coming from these newsgroups..and for the most part...the
people calling others bigots...are some of the biggest bigots yet.
Imagine that.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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26 May 2007 07:05:03 AM |
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On May 26, 8:02 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On May 26, 2:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.-
God is good.
God doesn't exist
Religion can be evil.
In practice, it almost always is.
Man made religion, man is intollerant. And I have found intellerance
on all sides...not just in religion.
Man is not intolerant until he is taught to be.
The problem most people have, is just admitting it. I see so much
bigotry coming from these newsgroups..and for the most part...the
people calling others bigots...are some of the biggest bigots yet.
Imagine that.
Bigotry is believing something you have no rational excuse for
believing, and insisting that you are right, and that anybody who
disagrees with you is wicked and bad. Every religion has a definition
of who, rather than what, is wicked and bad, and it starts with
unbelievers. Most other forms of bigotry have religious roots. Racism
comes straight from the Bible.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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26 May 2007 07:38:32 AM |
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"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in message news:1180181103.337788.185620@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On May 26, 8:02 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On May 26, 2:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your
life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry
and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.-
God is good.
God doesn't exist
Well, I certainly believe he does, and I certainly am open minded to
consider many things that prove God exist.
If you are that closed minded, that's too bad.
Religion can be evil.
In practice, it almost always is.
No, it's not. Some religions do wonderful things for many people. Not that
you would care, your own hatred is blinding you from seeing it.
Man made religion, man is intollerant. And I have found intellerance
on all sides...not just in religion.
Man is not intolerant until he is taught to be.
When are you going to be taught?
The problem most people have, is just admitting it. I see so much
bigotry coming from these newsgroups..and for the most part...the
people calling others bigots...are some of the biggest bigots yet.
Imagine that.
Bigotry is believing something you have no rational excuse for
believing, and insisting that you are right, and that anybody who
disagrees with you is wicked and bad. Every religion has a definition
of who, rather than what, is wicked and bad, and it starts with
unbelievers. Most other forms of bigotry have religious roots. Racism
comes straight from the Bible.
What ever you wish to believe.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, Christianitys worst nightmare" |
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26 May 2007 12:49:33 PM |
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On May 26, 1:38 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in messagenews:1180181103.337788.185620@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On May 26, 8:02 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On May 26, 2:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in your
life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own bigotry
and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.-
God is good.
God doesn't exist
Well, I certainly believe he does, and I certainly am open minded to
consider many things that prove God exist.
If you are that closed minded, that's too bad.
You're the one with the problem. My mind is not closed at all, it is
you that cannot see that God is impossible.
Religion can be evil.
In practice, it almost always is.
No, it's not. Some religions do wonderful things for many people. Not that
you would care, your own hatred is blinding you from seeing it.
Give examples. Enough to offset the Thirty Years War would be a start.
Man made religion, man is intollerant. And I have found intellerance
on all sides...not just in religion.
Man is not intolerant until he is taught to be.
When are you going to be taught?
Ad hom noted.
The problem most people have, is just admitting it. I see so much
bigotry coming from these newsgroups..and for the most part...the
people calling others bigots...are some of the biggest bigots yet.
Imagine that.
Bigotry is believing something you have no rational excuse for
believing, and insisting that you are right, and that anybody who
disagrees with you is wicked and bad. Every religion has a definition
of who, rather than what, is wicked and bad, and it starts with
unbelievers. Most other forms of bigotry have religious roots. Racism
comes straight from the Bible.
What ever you wish to believe.
Ad hom noted.
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26 May 2007 04:44:02 PM |
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"Pastor Kutchie, Christianity's worst nightmare" <user13@heathens.org.uk>
wrote in message
news:1180201773.329041.174810@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On May 26, 1:38 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk>
wrote
in messagenews:1180181103.337788.185620@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On May 26, 8:02 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On May 26, 2:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On May 25, 10:05 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7vji4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:20 -0700, bobandcarole wrote:
Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society:
Until we abolish institutions such as the religions which
promote
senseless bigotry, at least.
What about YOUR bigotry?
What ever happened to tollerance and acceptance?
You do realize that not all who are religious, are "bigots"?
Then again, you will never see the abolishment of religions in
your
life
time or mine anyway.
As one who strongly believes in God, I call you on your own
bigotry
and
remind you...
Let he who have not sin, cast the first stone.
Religion IS intolerance, numbskull.-
God is good.
God doesn't exist
Well, I certainly believe he does, and I certainly am open minded to
consider many things that prove God exist.
If you are that closed minded, that's too bad.
You're the one with the problem. My mind is not closed at all, it is
you that cannot see that God is impossible.
Yawn
Religion can be evil.
In practice, it almost always is.
No, it's not. Some religions do wonderful things for many people. Not
that
you would care, your own hatred is blinding you from seeing it.
Give examples. Enough to offset the Thirty Years War would be a start.
Providing food to the hungry, building shelters for the homeless, building
hospitals for those who need, providing medical care for those who can't get
it, during times of disastor, many volunteer to feed, clothe, and provide
shelter.
Man made religion, man is intollerant. And I have found intellerance
on all sides...not just in religion.
Man is not intolerant until he is taught to be.
When are you going to be taught?
Ad hom noted.
Truth hurts, eh?
The problem most people have, is just admitting it. I see so much
bigotry coming from these newsgroups..and for the most part...the
people calling others bigots...are some of the biggest bigots yet.
Imagine that.
Bigotry is believing something you have no rational excuse for
believing, and insisting that you are right, and that anybody who
disagrees with you is wicked and bad. Every religion has a definition
of who, rather than what, is wicked and bad, and it starts with
unbelievers. Most other forms of bigotry have religious roots. Racism
comes straight from the Bible.
What ever you wish to believe.
Ad hom noted.
Read above
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27 May 2007 07:38:54 PM |
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[snips]
On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:44:02 -0400, Osprey wrote:
Providing food to the hungry, building shelters for the homeless, building
hospitals for those who need, providing medical care for those who can't get
it, during times of disastor, many volunteer to feed, clothe, and provide
shelter.
Hey, all things we atheists do, too. Little story for you... two,
actually.
Buddy of mine lives in a town where there was a large storm. The storm
knocked down a tree - right into the roof of the local church. The church
members were, on the whole, standing around wailing, while he rounded up
some buddies who cut up the tree, got it out of the way and then they
repaired the roof. What the godders couldn't get off their asses to do,
the atheists did for them - repairing a _church_ for crying out loud.
Same buddy also runs a Thanksgiving turkey dinner every year for the
hungry - i.e. "line up, boys, no charge". He and a pack of rampant
atheists buy the supplies, organize the people, arrange for the hall, do
all the prep work, cooking and cleanup - and they don't even expect you to
sit through a sermon for it. One year some greasy theist type in a suit
shows up - as does the local media, who cover it every year - and he
promptly took credit for the whole blinkin' works.
It's interesting to note that when the theists get involved, there are
almost always strings attached. Free dinner? No problem, but we do
expect you to stay for the sermon. School in your community? No problem,
but we will include Bible readings and the like.
In my experience, most such "good works" by the theists have included such
strings. The problem with that is, it is no longer a good work being done
in the name of doing what's right, it is now a recruiting campaign, and in
many cases inflicted upon those who are in desperate situations and don't
have the resources to tell the theists to go ***** themselves.
You want credit for good works? Fine, kindly list them. List all the
hospitals you folks have built which aren't in some way religious in
nature - no chapel, no enormous crucifix hanging in the lobby, no
references to saints, etc. List all the schools you've built without a
single reference involved to any theistic concept whatsoever - no Bible
readings, no depictions of gods, no "Aren't we Christians wonderful for
building this" airtime.
I'm pretty certain the count will be damn close to zero, because you're
*not* doing "good deeds", you're preying on the weak and defenseless as a
recruitment. The fact some actual help may be given as a byproduct
doesn't change that.
Go on, list 'em.
--
Don't leave in a huff. Let me call you a garbage truck.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality issue will always bring out tensions in society: RAdm Lui |
27 May 2007 08:01:00 PM |
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"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:utkpi4-ifc.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
[snips]
On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:44:02 -0400, Osprey wrote:
Providing food to the hungry, building shelters for the homeless,
building
hospitals for those who need, providing medical care for those who can't
get
it, during times of disastor, many volunteer to feed, clothe, and provide
shelter.
Hey, all things we atheists do, too. Little story for you... two,
actually.
<snip>
We were done when you acted like a child.
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