Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:

Parsifal wrote:

J Young a écrit :

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;

The fact that you systematically attack the ACLU shows that you're 1-an
ignorant, 2- a fascist 3- anti-american.

Just because you are a socialist doesn't make you a good American.

Because you're a fascist you're a bad American.

Parsifal wrote:

J Young a =E9crit :

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery =

that is good and decent;

The fact that you systematically attack the ACLU shows that you're 1-an
ignorant, 2- a fascist 3- anti-american.

Just because you are a socialist

doesn't make you a good American.

--
"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached."
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Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus

Just because you are a socialist doesn't make you a good American.

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of =

that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.







http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092=

The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding leg=

fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in a=

lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force t=

removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.

"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displ=

are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.

The bill, called the Public Expressions of Religion Protection Act, passed
244 to 173 on a mostly party-line vote.

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative offic=

said the measure is "election-year red meat for the Christian right, beca=

they've been complaining they haven't gotten enough from this Congress."

Fredrickson added that it appears unlikely the Senate will pass the bill.

"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation a=

leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've be=

successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."

The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservati=

groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge award=

$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent desig=

alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.

Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU =

Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.), said the ACLU and
similar groups are "profiteering" as well as seeking "to remove every
vestige of our religious heritage from public places."











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J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of =

that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.







http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092=

The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding leg=

fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in a=

lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force t=

removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.

"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displ=

are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.

The bill, called the Public Expressions of Religion Protection Act, passed
244 to 173 on a mostly party-line vote.

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative offic=

said the measure is "election-year red meat for the Christian right, beca=

they've been complaining they haven't gotten enough from this Congress."

Fredrickson added that it appears unlikely the Senate will pass the bill.

"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation a=

leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've be=

successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."

The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservati=

groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge award=

$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent desig=

alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.

Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU =

Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.), said the ACLU and
similar groups are "profiteering" as well as seeking "to remove every
vestige of our religious heritage from public places."











--
----------

J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of =

that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.







http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092=

The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding leg=

fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in a=

lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force t=

removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.

"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displ=

are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.

The bill, called the Public Expressions of Religion Protection Act, passed
244 to 173 on a mostly party-line vote.

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative offic=

said the measure is "election-year red meat for the Christian right, beca=

they've been complaining they haven't gotten enough from this Congress."

Fredrickson added that it appears unlikely the Senate will pass the bill.

"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation a=

leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've be=

successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."

The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservati=

groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge award=

$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent desig=

alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.

Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU =

Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.), said the ACLU and
similar groups are "profiteering" as well as seeking "to remove every
vestige of our religious heritage from public places."

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J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.







http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html





The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.







http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html





The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html

The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.

The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.
Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in any
lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force the
removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.

"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displays
are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.
"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation are
leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've been
successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html





The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.

Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in any
lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force the
removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.