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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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28 Sep 2006 04:13:52 AM |
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House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding legal
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.
Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in any
lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force the
removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.
"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displays
are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.
The bill, called the Public Expressions of Religion Protection Act, passed
244 to 173 on a mostly party-line vote.
Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative office,
said the measure is "election-year red meat for the Christian right, because
they've been complaining they haven't gotten enough from this Congress."
Fredrickson added that it appears unlikely the Senate will pass the bill.
"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation are
leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've been
successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
The bill's sponsor, Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.), said the ACLU and
similar groups are "profiteering" as well as seeking "to remove every
vestige of our religious heritage from public places."
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 05:06:25 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the law.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 11:34:15 PM |
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Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
29 Sep 2006 04:44:28 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 03:09:03 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
So we can run it the way it was meant to be run and tell the seditious
Stalinist they can take a hike!
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ermine Todd III" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 05:44:48 AM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:SbCdneuldcFMQoDYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the
law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
So we can run it the way it was meant to be run and tell the seditious
Stalinist they can take a hike!
The way the country was meant to be run was/is in accordance with the the
Constitution. Note: neither the 10 commandments, the Bible, any religion,
nor God are mentioned as having any role or part therein. The ACLU is an
organization whose sole purpose is to defend the Constitution and portion
therein called the Bill of Rights. If you have a problem with that, I can't
help but ask - why do you hate our country and the Constitution?
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| User: "A.Melon" |
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30 Sep 2006 04:54:47 AM |
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'Scratch' wrote in:
Ray Fischer wrote:
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
So we can run it the way it was meant to be run and tell the seditious
Stalinist they can take a hike!
Both the Stalinist communists and fascist right can head down the road. They are
both tyrannical.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Sep 2006 06:15:24 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
So we can run it the way it was meant to be run
You hate the way the US is meant to be run. You hate freedom and oyu
hate that people have rights. You want dictatorship.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
01 Oct 2006 02:10:13 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000
to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow
the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
So that you can turn the country into a fascist dictatorship without
interference.
So we can run it the way it was meant to be run and tell the seditious
Stalinist they can take a hike!
What's the difference between you and them?
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| User: "cactus" |
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29 Sep 2006 03:24:24 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school
board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the
law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
They don't hate it. They are defending the rights that we all enjoy. The
parties the ACLU prevailed against were trying to subvert, even pervert
the protections under the Bill of Rights. The bums got what they
deserved, and the ACLU deserves our thanks.
You should too. These rights are just as much yours as anyone's.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 03:36:45 AM |
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cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school
board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow
the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
They don't hate it. They are defending the rights that we all enjoy. The
parties the ACLU prevailed against were trying to subvert, even pervert
the protections under the Bill of Rights. The bums got what they
deserved, and the ACLU deserves our thanks.
You should too. These rights are just as much yours as anyone's.
The ACLU is very un-American and drink deep from the well of communism.
I will thank the ACLU for leaving this country and going back to the
country of their roots. Hell I would be happy to even carry a picket
sign as they leave theming them good riddance to bad baggage and those
that support such a despicable group.
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 06:14:37 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school
board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow
the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
They don't hate it. They are defending the rights that we all enjoy. The
parties the ACLU prevailed against were trying to subvert, even pervert
the protections under the Bill of Rights. The bums got what they
deserved, and the ACLU deserves our thanks.
You should too. These rights are just as much yours as anyone's.
The ACLU is very un-American and drink deep from the well of communism.
You're just angry because you hate freedom and you hate the
Constitution which the ACLU defends.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
01 Oct 2006 02:11:56 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school
board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow
the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
They don't hate it. They are defending the rights that we all enjoy. The
parties the ACLU prevailed against were trying to subvert, even pervert
the protections under the Bill of Rights. The bums got what they
deserved, and the ACLU deserves our thanks.
You should too. These rights are just as much yours as anyone's.
The ACLU is very un-American and drink deep from the well of communism.
You're just angry because you hate freedom and you hate the
Constitution which the ACLU defends.
He's upset with the ACLU because it does too good a job of impeding his
efforts to convert this country into a theocracy of his choosing.
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
01 Oct 2006 02:10:23 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the
school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000
to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow
the law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
They don't hate it. They are defending the rights that we all enjoy.
The parties the ACLU prevailed against were trying to subvert, even
pervert the protections under the Bill of Rights. The bums got what
they deserved, and the ACLU deserves our thanks.
You should too. These rights are just as much yours as anyone's.
The ACLU is very un-American and drink deep from the well of communism.
I will thank the ACLU for leaving this country and going back to the
country of their roots. Hell I would be happy to even carry a picket
sign as they leave theming them good riddance to bad baggage and those
that support such a despicable group.
I can understand your feelings. The ACLU, the Anti-Defamation League and
others get in the way of you and your kind forcing your particular
religion onto the rest of us.
I'm going to send them more money in your honor. You inspire me.
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29 Sep 2006 02:28:42 AM |
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:34:15 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ermine Todd III wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
<snip>
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other
conservative
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge
awarded
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for
Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school
board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent
design"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to
three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
ACLU of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama
chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a bunch of whiny losers who can't be trusted to follow the
law.
I know. I just wish the Anti Christian Lawyers Union would leave the
country they hate so much.
If they hate the country so much, why do they fight to uphold its most
fundamental laws?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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28 Sep 2006 10:26:00 AM |
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In News QIidnWi42ajJ0YbYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery
of all that is good and decent; they should not line their greedy
pockets with taxpayer funds while doing so.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601486.html
The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding
legal fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups
that sue municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on
government establishment of religion.
If the law is passed, the ACLU will simply challenge it as a violation of
the first amendment to the constitution. It won't last long in any event.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 05:42:39 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 11:35:01 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian Lawyers
Union.
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
29 Sep 2006 04:47:45 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian Lawyers
Union.
Why? YOU are the one who wants to eliminate liberty and force people
to do as you think best.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 03:11:48 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian Lawyers
Union.
Why? YOU are the one who wants to eliminate liberty and force people
to do as you think best.
liberty to kill un-born children and make homosexual sex is not what I
want to see continue in my country
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 06:16:23 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian Lawyers
Union.
Why? YOU are the one who wants to eliminate liberty and force people
to do as you think best.
liberty to kill un-born children and make homosexual sex is not what I
want to see continue in my country
You want the liberty to kill women and kill homosexuals and kill
Muslims and kill anybody else _you_ don't like.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 01:55:19 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian
Lawyers Union.
Funny sort of "Anti-Christians." They've defended Limbaugh, Christians
who baptize in a public park, and countless others.
(Oh, but we're not supposed to remember that, nor that they won. Oops.)
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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30 Sep 2006 03:18:07 AM |
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Dionisio wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian
Lawyers Union.
Funny sort of "Anti-Christians." They've defended Limbaugh, Christians
who baptize in a public park, and countless others.
(Oh, but we're not supposed to remember that, nor that they won. Oops.)
Careful, now! Careful now, a Christan could pray all over you then what?
That's dangerous you know. Much butter to kill un-born children and make
homosexual sex. Now that is being an American right? After all The ACLU
will protect those rights.
What a bone Head!
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“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 07:14:45 PM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Dionisio wrote:
Funny sort of "Anti-Christians." They've defended Limbaugh,
Christians who baptize in a public park, and countless others.
(Oh, but we're not supposed to remember that, nor that they won. Oops.)
Careful, now! Careful now, a Christan could pray all over you then what?
Increased global warming due to conversion of oxygen into carbon dioxide.
Much butter to kill un-born children and make homosexual sex.
Kinky.
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
29 Sep 2006 03:27:20 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery
of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian Lawyers
Union.
You don't get it. They are protecting your rights too.
The problem is that the fanatical nut cases they are stopping think that
they have the right to use public money and facilities to cram their
religious beliefs down everyone's throats.
That damn judge with the 10 Commandments should have known better. He's
particularly despicable because he knows the law and the reasons for it.
Yet he chose to flout it in a court of justice of all places.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 03:06:13 AM |
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cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a
mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian
Lawyers Union.
You don't get it. They are protecting your rights too.
Did I ask them to? Oh hell no! They can leave this country and I would
not loose one minute sleep over it.
The problem is that the fanatical nut cases they are stopping think that
they have the right to use public money and facilities to cram their
religious beliefs down everyone's throats.
Don't like re religion don't practice it! Isn't that kind of like what
the homosexuals say? Don't like it don't participate. It goes the same
way unless, your the typical leftist with a double standard.
That damn judge with the 10 Commandments should have known better. He's
particularly despicable because he knows the law and the reasons for it.
Yet he chose to flout it in a court of justice of all places.
Yeah him praying will make your brains rot and you could get a venereal
disease from it, right?
What a nut job
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
02 Oct 2006 04:25:04 PM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
The problem is that the fanatical nut cases they are stopping think that
they have the right to use public money and facilities to cram their
religious beliefs down everyone's throats.
Don't like re religion don't practice it! Isn't that kind of like what
the homosexuals say? Don't like it don't participate. It goes the same
way unless, your the typical leftist with a double standard.
Don't like the ACLU, don't donate to it! Isn't that kind of like what
Americans say? Don't like it don't participate. It goes the same way
unless, your (sic) the typical religionist with a double standard.
What a nut job
My sentiments exactly...
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
30 Sep 2006 10:49:57 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:06:13 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<SbCdneildcG0QoDYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
cactus wrote:
Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a
mockery of all
that is good and decent;
Why do you hate liberty?
You need to direct that dumb ***** question to the Anti Christian
Lawyers Union.
You don't get it. They are protecting your rights too.
Did I ask them to? Oh hell no! They can leave this country and I would
not loose one minute sleep over it.
There are a few hundred million Americans other than you.
The problem is that the fanatical nut cases they are stopping think that
they have the right to use public money and facilities to cram their
religious beliefs down everyone's throats.
Don't like re religion don't practice it!
That sounds reasonable. The problem is that those who do practice it
keep trying to do so in public and keep trying to make others join
them.
Isn't that kind of like what
the homosexuals say? Don't like it don't participate. It goes the same
way unless, your the typical leftist with a double standard.
That damn judge with the 10 Commandments should have known better. He's
particularly despicable because he knows the law and the reasons for it.
Yet he chose to flout it in a court of justice of all places.
Yeah him praying will make your brains rot and you could get a venereal
disease from it, right?
It is not what he does - it is what he tries to make other's do.
What a nut job
Yes, he is.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 09:18:07 AM |
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J Young a =E9crit :
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of =
all
that is good and decent;
The fact that you systematically attack the ACLU shows that you're 1-an
ignorant, 2- a fascist 3- anti-american.
As for "decent", how about learning the meaning of that word, Mr. Nazi
turd?
they should not line their greedy pockets with
taxpayer funds while doing so.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092=
601486.html
The House passed a bill yesterday that would bar judges from awarding leg=
al
fees to the American Civil Liberties Union and similar groups that sue
municipalities for violating the Constitution's ban on government
establishment of religion.
Though the bill would prevent plaintiffs from recovering legal costs in a=
ny
lawsuit based on the Establishment Clause, House Republicans said during a
floor debate that it was particularly aimed at organizations that force t=
he
removal of Nativity scenes and Ten Commandments monuments from public
property.
"Liberal groups . . . scour the country looking to sue cities and states
with any kind of religious display, regardless of how popular these displ=
ays
are," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.). Because judges often require
municipalities that lose such lawsuits to reimburse their opponents' legal
fees, "citizens' precious monuments are being eroded with their own tax
dollars," she added.
The bill, called the Public Expressions of Religion Protection Act, passed
244 to 173 on a mostly party-line vote.
Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative offic=
e,
said the measure is "election-year red meat for the Christian right, beca=
use
they've been complaining they haven't gotten enough from this Congress."
Fredrickson added that it appears unlikely the Senate will pass the bill.
"But we're watching it, because it is designed to do real damage to First
Amendment protections," she said. "What the backers of this legislation a=
re
leaving out of the discussion is that fees are only awarded when we've be=
en
successful in showing that someone's constitutional rights have been
violated."
The American Legion, the Southern Baptist Convention and other conservati=
ve
groups began pushing for the legislation after a Pennsylvania judge award=
ed
$2 million to the ACLU of Pennsylvania and Americans United for Separation
of Church and State. The two groups had successfully sued the school board
in Dover, Pa., for requiring science teachers to teach "intelligent desig=
n"
alongside evolution. The award was later reduced to $1 million.
Conservative groups were also irked when a judge awarded $550,000 to three
groups -- Americans United, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU =
of
Alabama -- after they prevailed in a lawsuit against former Alabama chief
justice Roy S. Moore's display of the Ten Commandments.
The bill's sponsor, Rep. John N. Hostettler (R-Ind.), said the ACLU and
similar groups are "profiteering" as well as seeking "to remove every
vestige of our religious heritage from public places."
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J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
28 Sep 2006 11:36:05 PM |
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Parsifal wrote:
J Young a écrit :
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
The fact that you systematically attack the ACLU shows that you're 1-an
ignorant, 2- a fascist 3- anti-american.
Just because you are a socialist doesn't make you a good American.
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House Passes Measure on Religion Suits |
29 Sep 2006 04:48:15 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young a écrit :
Thank God that Congress is taking action. The ACLU has made a mockery of all
that is good and decent;
The fact that you systematically attack the ACLU shows that you're 1-an
ignorant, 2- a fascist 3- anti-american.
Just because you are a socialist doesn't make you a good American.
Because you're a fascist you're a bad American.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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