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How a Mouse Became a Bat |
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php#more
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/bat_development.php#more
Budikka
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| User: "¬Saba Gracile¬" |
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| Title: Re: How a Mouse Became a Bat |
20 Apr 2006 08:04:10 AM |
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"Galen Hekhuis" <> skrev i melding
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Oh for Pete's sake. Bats aren't even rodents, they are in a class all by
themselves, Chiropteran. It's kind of like asking how a cat became a dog,
and then looking for some "transitional fossil."
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Illiterate? Write for FREE help
hihihihi
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| User: "TranslucentAmoebae" |
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23 Apr 2006 06:50:51 PM |
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One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
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| User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" |
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26 Apr 2006 12:49:10 PM |
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"TranslucentAmoebae" <transamoebae@seanet.com> skrev i melding
news:1145836251.326246.254970@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Bang-on! Why the hell would a mouse with longer nails (or paws even)
start jumping around in the air like wacko mice on crystal meth? Would that
make way for an aerodynamic *construction* fine tuned to fly from the very
getgo in speices with wings? Hell no, maybe in Wonderland, where suicide
mice jumped off cliffs or something and discovered their paws could mutate
half a wing. Come on folks, your theory is WACK!
S
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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| Title: Re: How a Mouse Became a Bat |
26 Apr 2006 01:08:39 PM |
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Well then can you explaoin how Carol Adamo Gulley aka Koi-Lo mutated
into a resemblence of a female human, when we all know she is actually
some species of snake. But she is sure proof of evolution in the
process, but her process of evolving stopped about 60 some years ago.
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:49:10 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
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<>"TranslucentAmoebae" <transamoebae@seanet.com> skrev i melding
<>news:1145836251.326246.254970@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
<>> One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
<>> Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
<>> that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
<>> 'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
<>> Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
<>> accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
<>> Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
<>> i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
<>> they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
<>> But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
<>> 'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
<>
<>Bang-on! Why the hell would a mouse with longer nails (or paws even)
<>start jumping around in the air like wacko mice on crystal meth? Would that
<>make way for an aerodynamic *construction* fine tuned to fly from the very
<>getgo in speices with wings? Hell no, maybe in Wonderland, where suicide
<>mice jumped off cliffs or something and discovered their paws could mutate
<>half a wing. Come on folks, your theory is WACK!
<>
<>S
<>>
<>
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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| User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" |
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26 Apr 2006 01:27:50 PM |
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"Koi-Lo" <invalid@invalid.invalid> skrev i melding news:4450b598.18719382@news.west.earthlink.net...
Well then can you explaoin how Carol Adamo Gulley aka Koi-Lo mutated
into a resemblence of a female human, when we all know she is actually
some species of snake. But she is sure proof of evolution in the
process, but her process of evolving stopped about 60 some years ago.
My Gawd, it's all about one woman in this world, for you.
How is that, to have one person you hate occupy all your time?
It's like drinking poison, why do you do it?
Saba
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:49:10 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
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<>"TranslucentAmoebae" <transamoebae@seanet.com> skrev i melding
<>news:1145836251.326246.254970@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
<>> One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
<>> Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
<>> that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
<>> 'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
<>> Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
<>> accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
<>> Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
<>> i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
<>> they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
<>> But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
<>> 'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
<>
<>Bang-on! Why the hell would a mouse with longer nails (or paws even)
<>start jumping around in the air like wacko mice on crystal meth? Would that
<>make way for an aerodynamic *construction* fine tuned to fly from the very
<>getgo in speices with wings? Hell no, maybe in Wonderland, where suicide
<>mice jumped off cliffs or something and discovered their paws could mutate
<>half a wing. Come on folks, your theory is WACK!
<>
<>S
<>>
<>
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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| User: "Lucky Luciano" |
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30 Apr 2006 10:37:22 PM |
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Forgery/impersonation by ROY from rec.ponds
From: invalid@invalid.invalid (Koi-Lo)
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"Koi-Lo" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4450b598.18719382@news.west.earthlink.net...
Well then can you explaoin how Carol Adamo Gulley aka Koi-Lo mutated
into a resemblence of a female human, when we all know she is actually
some species of snake. But she is sure proof of evolution in the
process, but her process of evolving stopped about 60 some years ago.
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:49:10 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
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<>"TranslucentAmoebae" <transamoebae@seanet.com> skrev i melding
<>news:1145836251.326246.254970@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
<>> One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
<>> Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
<>> that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
<>> 'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
<>> Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
<>> accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
<>> Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
<>> i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar,
and
<>> they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
<>> But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
<>> 'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
<>
<>Bang-on! Why the hell would a mouse with longer nails (or paws even)
<>start jumping around in the air like wacko mice on crystal meth? Would
that
<>make way for an aerodynamic *construction* fine tuned to fly from the
very
<>getgo in speices with wings? Hell no, maybe in Wonderland, where
suicide
<>mice jumped off cliffs or something and discovered their paws could
mutate
<>half a wing. Come on folks, your theory is WACK!
<>
<>S
<>>
<>
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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23 Apr 2006 08:13:23 PM |
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About the same way carol became the mascot of the Hells
Angels...Afterall she is the one that invented the Red Wings
initiation.........the filty old ***** that she is.
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| User: "M. Kapps" |
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23 Apr 2006 11:23:55 PM |
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carols his wife so he should know!
"Koi-Lo" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4452253c.17915167@news.west.earthlink.net...
About the same way carol became the mascot of the Hells
Angels...Afterall she is the one that invented the Red Wings
initiation.........the filty old ***** that she is.
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( @ @ )
-----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
oooO
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The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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24 Apr 2006 01:58:21 AM |
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On 23 Apr 2006 16:50:51 -0700, "TranslucentAmoebae"
<transamoebae@seanet.com> wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
***** and die, Jabriol.
Why don't his fellow JWs keep him under control?
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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24 Apr 2006 02:23:17 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Apr 2006 16:50:51 -0700, "TranslucentAmoebae"
***** and die, Jabriol.
Why don't his fellow JWs keep him under control?
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The bunch of hypocrites can't be bothered. For some reason they will
disfellowship 4 women here in TN for demanding better protection from the
known JW pedophiles, but they do nothing about jabriol.
CH.......
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Epicurus
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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23 Apr 2006 08:06:15 PM |
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TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
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| User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" |
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26 Apr 2006 12:51:52 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> skrev i melding
news:444c22e9$0$15398$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is. So it's not batman, but batmouse now!
S
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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26 Apr 2006 01:09:29 PM |
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Naw its Carol the batkoi
Totally new breed
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:51:52 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
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<>"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> skrev i melding
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<>> TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
<>>> One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
<>>> Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
<>>> that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
<>>> 'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
<>>> Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
<>>> accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
<>>> Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
<>>> i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
<>>> they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
<>>> But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
<>>> 'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
<>>>
<>>
<>> Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
<>>
<>>
<>They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
<>into a blooddrinking flying bat is. So it's not batman, but batmouse now!
<>
<>S
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Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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26 Apr 2006 04:10:19 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:51:52 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> skrev i melding
news:444c22e9$0$15398$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is. So it's not batman, but batmouse now!
And once again we see Saba, resort to that old creationist favorite, the fallacy
of The Argument From Incredulity.
AKA "I can't understand it, so it couldn't have happened"
Or simply, "My Brain Hurts, so Goddidit"
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| User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" |
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26 Apr 2006 04:44:07 PM |
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> skrev i melding
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:51:52 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> skrev i melding
news:444c22e9$0$15398$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is. So it's not batman, but batmouse now!
And once again we see Saba, resort to that old creationist favorite, the fallacy
of The Argument From Incredulity.
AKA "I can't understand it, so it couldn't have happened"
Or simply, "My Brain Hurts, so Goddidit"
Most honest scientists finds this scenario a little weird too, to say the least.
But what would be the alternative? a God? haha, they'd rather die!
S
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26 Apr 2006 05:54:23 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:44:07 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> skrev i melding
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:51:52 +0200, "-¬Saba Gracile-¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> skrev i melding
news:444c22e9$0$15398$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
TranslucentAmoebae wrote:
One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that when you change one feature in an animal, in order to get it to
'Work', you need to change a bunch of other things as well...
Merely making the fingers of 'A Mouse Like Ancestor' longer to
accomidate a 'Bat Like Wing' doesn't address the problems of
Interfinger webing, or 'Knowing how to Fly...!'
i can easily see how a Bat-Like animal can get along without Sonar, and
they might even endure several generations on the old 'Mouse Diet'...
But just souping up the finger bones with one genetic mutation in a
'Short Time' isn't going to make a Bat.
Wonderful example of the Strawman fallacy! Bravo! :-D
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is. So it's not batman, but batmouse now!
And once again we see Saba, resort to that old creationist favorite, the fallacy
of The Argument From Incredulity.
AKA "I can't understand it, so it couldn't have happened"
Or simply, "My Brain Hurts, so Goddidit"
Most honest scientists finds this scenario a little weird too, to say the least.
But what would be the alternative? a God? haha, they'd rather die!
I must give credit where it is due: The range depth, of your ignorance, is
truly astounding.
As your god hates knowledge, so it must love you.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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26 Apr 2006 07:45:34 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Wed, 26 Apr 2006
19:51:52 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is.
Mice are omnivores. The mostly eat plants, but will eat meat (insects,
mainly.)
And there are only 3 species of vampire bat in the world. Out of 950
or so in the world.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
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| User: "¬Saba Gracile¬" |
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27 Apr 2006 05:02:44 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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What's so funny about peace, love and "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Wed, 26 Apr 2006
19:51:52 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is.
Mice are omnivores. The mostly eat plants, but will eat meat (insects,
mainly.)
--> If carnivores are forced to , they will eat vegetables so there goes that
fucked up argument. The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
but you guys like to imagine that kinds of scenarios, I guess.
And there are only 3 species of vampire bat in the world. Out of 950
or so in the world.
--so? whateva
S
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Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: How a Mouse Became a Bat |
27 Apr 2006 08:00:43 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:02:44 +0200, "¬Saba Gracile¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
--> If carnivores are forced to ,they will eat vegetables.
If they are forced to, but they won't get much good from them, and will starve,
all but the few who are mutated enough to digest vegetation.
But that is an example of how evolution works, so it couldn't happen: Could it?
They certainly would not do it voluntarily, even if starving..
so there goes that
fucked up argument.
The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
And you know this: How?
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| User: "¬Saba Gracile¬" |
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28 Apr 2006 08:39:39 AM |
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> skrev i melding
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:02:44 +0200, "¬Saba Gracile¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
--> If carnivores are forced to ,they will eat vegetables.
If they are forced to, but they won't get much good from them, and will starve,
all but the few who are mutated enough to digest vegetation.
But that is an example of how evolution works, so it couldn't happen: Could it?
Right, if an animal can eat both types of food that is proof that they were once
a different speices. Dogmatics noted.
They certainly would not do it voluntarily, even if starving..
so there goes that
fucked up argument.
The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
And you know this: How?
Why, all mice types are fine and happy being mice on the ground arent' they?
why didn't they come up with a genious plan to start flying?
S
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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28 Apr 2006 07:11:37 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Fri, 28 Apr 2006
15:39:39 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> skrev i melding
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:02:44 +0200, "¬Saba Gracile¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
--> If carnivores are forced to ,they will eat vegetables.
If they are forced to, but they won't get much good from them, and will starve,
all but the few who are mutated enough to digest vegetation.
But that is an example of how evolution works, so it couldn't happen: Could it?
Right, if an animal can eat both types of food that is proof that they were once
a different speices. Dogmatics noted.
No, we are pointing out that members of Canis are evolved to eat meat.
The will eat plants, but cannot properly digest them and will die of
malnutrition.
And you know this: How?
Why, all mice types are fine and happy being mice on the ground arent' they?
why didn't they come up with a genious plan to start flying?
Obviously, there was some advantage for certain speciers in being able
to move through the air. Probably started with jumping from trees to
avoid preadators. The bat-ancestors that could glide farther were
more successful. Add a few hundred thousand breeding cycles, and you
are well on your way to a flying mammal.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "¬Saba Gracile¬" |
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29 Apr 2006 09:06:16 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Fri, 28 Apr 2006
15:39:39 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> skrev i melding
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:02:44 +0200, "¬Saba Gracile¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no>
wrote:
--> If carnivores are forced to ,they will eat vegetables.
If they are forced to, but they won't get much good from them, and will starve,
all but the few who are mutated enough to digest vegetation.
But that is an example of how evolution works, so it couldn't happen: Could it?
Right, if an animal can eat both types of food that is proof that they were once
a different speices. Dogmatics noted.
No, we are pointing out that members of Canis are evolved to eat meat.
The will eat plants, but cannot properly digest them and will die of
malnutrition.
And you know this: How?
Why, all mice types are fine and happy being mice on the ground arent' they?
why didn't they come up with a genious plan to start flying?
Obviously, there was some advantage for certain speciers in being able
to move through the air.
Nice fantasy! where's your "MOUNTAINS" of evidence for that?
Probably started with jumping from trees to
avoid preadators. The bat-ancestors that could glide farther were
more successful. Add a few hundred thousand breeding cycles, and you
are well on your way to a flying mammal.
I can hardly find these stupid posts anymore the thread is montrous, so I quit this
hollow debate concluding that groundbound animals will hop up and train to fly,
and that all kinds of crazy nutcracker things happen in EvolutionLand. By bye!
Saba
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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
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when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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29 Apr 2006 06:48:20 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Sat, 29 Apr 2006
16:06:16 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
Obviously, there was some advantage for certain speciers in being able
to move through the air.
Nice fantasy! where's your "MOUNTAINS" of evidence for that?
Would you read it if I showed you the links?
Probably started with jumping from trees to
avoid preadators. The bat-ancestors that could glide farther were
more successful. Add a few hundred thousand breeding cycles, and you
are well on your way to a flying mammal.
I can hardly find these stupid posts anymore the thread is montrous, so I quit this
hollow debate concluding that groundbound animals will hop up and train to fly,
and that all kinds of crazy nutcracker things happen in EvolutionLand. By bye!
Your abject surrender is noted and laughed at heartily. Run away,
little theist, run away!!
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:59:30 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Fri, 28 Apr 2006
00:02:44 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is.
Mice are omnivores. The mostly eat plants, but will eat meat (insects,
mainly.)
--> If carnivores are forced to , they will eat vegetables so there goes that
fucked up argument. The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
but you guys like to imagine that kinds of scenarios, I guess.
No. Mice are omnivores. Meat is a normal part of their diet.
Ever seen a flying squirrel?
http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/flyingsquirrel/
Very interesting critters. Ostensibly a normal member of the order
Rodentia; they have an amazing abilty to glide for long distances on
stretched skin membranes between the fore and rear legs. Not true
flight, but something close. It is easy to see where, over millions of
years, a similar creature slowy evolved to true flight.
And there are only 3 species of vampire bat in the world. Out of 950
or so in the world.
--so? whateva
You, dear thing, are the one who brought up blood drinking. Your
ignorance is kind of cute at times.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "¬Saba Gracile¬" |
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28 Apr 2006 08:37:44 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Fri, 28 Apr 2006
00:02:44 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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They won't even consider how stupid a mouse veggie eater turning
into a blooddrinking flying bat is.
Mice are omnivores. The mostly eat plants, but will eat meat (insects,
mainly.)
--> If carnivores are forced to , they will eat vegetables so there goes that
fucked up argument. The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
but you guys like to imagine that kinds of scenarios, I guess.
No. Mice are omnivores. Meat is a normal part of their diet.
Ever seen a flying squirrel?
http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/flyingsquirrel/
So? I guess the 'flying' fish are on it's way to fly out of the water becoming birds ey?
belief & imagination goes hand in hand.
Very interesting critters. Ostensibly a normal member of the order
Rodentia; they have an amazing abilty to glide for long distances on
stretched skin membranes between the fore and rear legs. Not true
flight, but something close. It is easy to see where, over millions of
years, a similar creature slowy evolved to true flight.
No doubt there are many interesting creatures, but every interesting creature
isn't a speices developing into another because you think it's weird looking.
And there are only 3 species of vampire bat in the world. Out of 950
or so in the world.
--so? whateva
You, dear thing, are the one who brought up blood drinking. Your
ignorance is kind of cute at times.
I don't need a lection in bat speices.
S
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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28 Apr 2006 07:08:23 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "¬Saba Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> posting the following on Fri, 28 Apr 2006
15:37:44 +0200 iin alt.atheism?
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> skrev i melding
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--> If carnivores are forced to , they will eat vegetables so there goes that
fucked up argument. The mice had no interest in starting to fly or sucking blood,
but you guys like to imagine that kinds of scenarios, I guess.
No. Mice are omnivores. Meat is a normal part of their diet.
I see you've given up here. Good plan for you.
Ever seen a flying squirrel?
http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/flyingsquirrel/
So? I guess the 'flying' fish are on it's way to fly out of the water becoming birds ey?
belief & imagination goes hand in hand.
No. But flying squirrels and the similar flying fox show how a
partially developed wing can be useful.
Very interesting critters. Ostensibly a normal member of the order
Rodentia; they have an amazing abilty to glide for long distances on
stretched skin membranes between the fore and rear legs. Not true
flight, but something close. It is easy to see where, over millions of
years, a similar creature slowy evolved to true flight.
No doubt there are many interesting creatures, but every interesting creature
isn't a speices developing into another because you think it's weird looking.
No, we know this is true because we have mountains of evidence to back
it up.
You, dear thing, are the one who brought up blood drinking. Your
ignorance is kind of cute at times.
I don't need a lection in bat speices.
That's "lecture", little one. And if you don't want a lecture from
people who know what they are talking about, keep your ignorant little
mouth shut.
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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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23 Apr 2006 09:36:57 PM |
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What does this subject have to do with ponds? Please remove off-topic
Newsgroups.
Thanks?
"TranslucentAmoebae" <transamoebae@seanet.com> wrote in message
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One of the things that i find most encouraging for 'The Reasonably
Intelligent Designer' Argument, is that Evolutionist keep forgetting
that
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20 Apr 2006 12:41:26 AM |
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In article <1145500349.134494.212400@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php#more
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/bat_development.php#more
Budikka
That's a nice blogsite. Thanks again!
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
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