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"Budikka666" |
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03 Oct 2006 11:01:12 PM |
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How Believers Lie About Darwin and Hitler |
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/10/from_darwin_to_2.html#more
Budikka
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
04 Oct 2006 04:23:04 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/10/from_darwin_to_2.html#more
I was in Fifth Class at Primary School when the German Army invaded
Poland
and in accordance with the treaty Britain had with Poland
declared war on Germany on the 3 September 1939.
The website that you have given above has information in it
that I had not heard previously.
It appears that Hitler had taken to himself the mission in life
to save Christendom from Jewish influences.
While Jewish authorities in His lifetime opposed
the teachings that Jesus gave
it must be remembered
that the common people heard Him gladly. Mark 12 37.
Th tragedy for the Jewish people is that their
leaders consented to the death by crucifixion of Jesus
by saying,
'His blood be on us and on our children.' Matthew 27 : 25
which in subsequent centuries was used by many leaders
in various parts of Europe as a pretext to persecute Jewish citizens.
As for Hitler, who was influenced by the occult,
I can't help, but think, that he was prepared to use anyone
to gain support for the power he craved,
and would do the most treacherous act to eliminate those who opposed
him
His actions were not those of a person
who was/is a true follower of Jesus Christ.
Darwin came from ahighly educated family,
began a medical course,
but found he was unable to manage the very unpleasant aspects
of that profession that existed in the mid 19th Century,
trained in theology, but did not take up working in a parish,
had the opportunty to travel an the Beagle in its voyage to the Pacific
area
and came to certain conclusions
about Natural Selection from the finches on the Galapogas Islands
and only rushed the publication of his work
when he learnt that Wallace was about to publish his.
About 150 years later Darwin is still the guru of Evolution.
It can't be determined that
the cruelly of Hitler professing a Christian faith
(which was NOT the true Christian faith)
has any parallel with modern day Christians
who oppose the 'science' that has come from
the writings of Charles Darwin.
Those who may think that way are drawing a very incorrect analogy
between those two men and different understandings of the Christian
faith
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
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| User: "madMental" |
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
04 Oct 2006 09:16:22 AM |
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The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
B*llocks, they try and find any elements of scientific discovery that
can be twisted to support their own magical creation myth, whilst
disregarding the rest.
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"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever
believed in.
Some of us just go one god further."
Richard Dawkins
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6yB+?=" |
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
04 Oct 2006 05:25:52 PM |
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<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Can you please point us to these *scientific* studies? I have been unable
to find even one.
An URL will do......
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SA....
"Thou seest the mote in thy non-JW brother's eye, but thou seest not the
beam
in thine own JW eye. When thou castest the beam out of thine own JW eye,
then wilt thou see clearly to cast the mote from thy non-JW brother's eye."
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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| Title: TQOTM nomination (was Darwin and Hitler) |
05 Oct 2006 01:21:33 AM |
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<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or a deliberate lie-for-Jesus, but
this one is waaaay out there.
Seconds?
It always amazes me that Christians will beg the authority of a handfull of
scientists, usually speaking well out of their field, and whose assertions
bear little or no resemblance to anything scientific, in an attempt to
discredit the majority of scientists who actually know what they're talking
about.
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| User: "Fred Liken" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM nomination (was Darwin and Hitler) |
05 Oct 2006 05:13:02 PM |
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"Sara Brum" <right@home.here> wrote in message
news:x6ZUg.41547$rP1.7648@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or a deliberate lie-for-Jesus, but
this one is waaaay out there.
Seconds?
It always amazes me that Christians will beg the authority of a handfull
of scientists, usually speaking well out of their field, and whose
assertions bear little or no resemblance to anything scientific, in an
attempt to discredit the majority of scientists who actually know what
they're talking about.
Oh, crap, I didn't read the OP and thought you were talking about global
warming alarmists...
That quote is hardly TQOTM material, as far as I've seen.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM nomination (was Darwin and Hitler) |
08 Oct 2006 04:26:42 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:21:33 GMT, "Sara Brum" <right@home.here> wrote:
- Refer: <x6ZUg.41547$rP1.7648@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or a deliberate lie-for-Jesus, but
this one is waaaay out there.
Seconds?
It always amazes me that Christians will beg the authority of a handfull of
scientists, usually speaking well out of their field, and whose assertions
bear little or no resemblance to anything scientific, in an attempt to
discredit the majority of scientists who actually know what they're talking
about.
I second the nomination.
Ms. Swager is of such a deliberately low educational standard that she
has no idea that she is lying.
She has never changed one iota in the years that I have read her
vomitous regurgitations, despite being clearly shown to be totally
wrong on most occasions.
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM nomination (was Darwin and Hitler) |
05 Oct 2006 03:46:47 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:21:33 GMT, Sara Brum <right@home.here> wrote:
<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or a deliberate lie-for-Jesus, but
this one is waaaay out there.
Seconds?
absolutely
It always amazes me that Christians will beg the authority of a handfull of
scientists, usually speaking well out of their field, and whose assertions
bear little or no resemblance to anything scientific, in an attempt to
discredit the majority of scientists who actually know what they're talking
about.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: TQOTM nomination (was Darwin and Hitler) |
07 Oct 2006 11:02:02 AM |
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In article <slrnei901g.eei.aznomad@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:21:33 GMT, Sara Brum <right@home.here> wrote:
<swager@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
I'm not sure if it's willful ignorance, or a deliberate lie-for-Jesus, but
this one is waaaay out there.
Seconds?
absolutely
Recorded.
It always amazes me that Christians will beg the authority of a handfull of
scientists, usually speaking well out of their field, and whose assertions
bear little or no resemblance to anything scientific, in an attempt to
discredit the majority of scientists who actually know what they're talking
about.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
04 Oct 2006 06:13:52 AM |
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wrote in news:1159935784.233010.93520
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
Gladys Swager
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
08 Oct 2006 04:29:14 PM |
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On 3 Oct 2006 21:23:04 -0700, wrote in alt.atheism
Budikka666 wrote:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/10/from_darwin_to_2.html#more
I was in Fifth Class at Primary School when the German Army invaded
Poland
and in accordance with the treaty Britain had with Poland
declared war on Germany on the 3 September 1939.
Ouch. Have you considered either writing or recording your living
history for posterity? I'm sure there are organizations in Oz trying to
record all they can.
The website that you have given above has information in it
that I had not heard previously.
It appears that Hitler had taken to himself the mission in life
to save Christendom from Jewish influences.
While Jewish authorities in His lifetime opposed
the teachings that Jesus gave
it must be remembered
that the common people heard Him gladly. Mark 12 37.
And Santa Claus really does bring toys to all the good girls and boys.
Now to work within your fictional world. "Jesus'" hometown didn't buy
the ravings.
Th tragedy for the Jewish people is that their
leaders consented to the death by crucifixion of Jesus
by saying,
'His blood be on us and on our children.' Matthew 27 : 25
So says the faerie tale.
which in subsequent centuries was used by many leaders
in various parts of Europe as a pretext to persecute Jewish citizens.
'Loving' persecution.
As for Hitler, who was influenced by the occult,
I can't help, but think, that he was prepared to use anyone
to gain support for the power he craved,
and would do the most treacherous act to eliminate those who opposed
him
Christianity is the occult. Such treachery and craving is also part and
parcel of religious heiarchy.
His actions were not those of a person
who was/is a true follower of Jesus Christ.
Yeah, every sect, says that about every other one. According to the
Bloody Bible there isn't a Christian on the planet. 'Jesus' said this,
but what would he know.
Darwin came from ahighly educated family,
began a medical course,
but found he was unable to manage the very unpleasant aspects
of that profession that existed in the mid 19th Century,
trained in theology, but did not take up working in a parish,
had the opportunty to travel an the Beagle in its voyage to the Pacific
area
and came to certain conclusions
about Natural Selection from the finches on the Galapogas Islands
and only rushed the publication of his work
when he learnt that Wallace was about to publish his.
About 150 years later Darwin is still the guru of Evolution.
Only to the ignorant. Evolution is a common fact seen routinely via the
birth of every baby.
It can't be determined that
the cruelly of Hitler professing a Christian faith
(which was NOT the true Christian faith)
has any parallel with modern day Christians
who oppose the 'science' that has come from
the writings of Charles Darwin.
Laughing AT you.
Those who may think that way are drawing a very incorrect analogy
between those two men and different understandings of the Christian
faith
I've no idea what you're trying to say in the above sentence.
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
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[gasp] One can't buy comedy like this!
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Darwin and Hitler |
04 Oct 2006 03:03:13 PM |
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On 3 Oct 2006 21:23:04 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
in <1159935784.233010.93520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/10/from_darwin_to_2.html#more
I was in Fifth Class at Primary School when the German Army invaded
Poland
and in accordance with the treaty Britain had with Poland
declared war on Germany on the 3 September 1939.
The website that you have given above has information in it
that I had not heard previously.
It appears that Hitler had taken to himself the mission in life
to save Christendom from Jewish influences.
While Jewish authorities in His lifetime opposed
the teachings that Jesus gave
it must be remembered
that the common people heard Him gladly. Mark 12 37.
Th tragedy for the Jewish people is that their
leaders consented to the death by crucifixion of Jesus
by saying,
'His blood be on us and on our children.' Matthew 27 : 25
which in subsequent centuries was used by many leaders
in various parts of Europe as a pretext to persecute Jewish citizens.
So, having lived through Hitler's invasion you still blame the Jews.
As for Hitler, who was influenced by the occult,
I can't help, but think, that he was prepared to use anyone
to gain support for the power he craved,
and would do the most treacherous act to eliminate those who opposed
him
His actions were not those of a person
who was/is a true follower of Jesus Christ.
Darwin came from ahighly educated family,
began a medical course,
but found he was unable to manage the very unpleasant aspects
of that profession that existed in the mid 19th Century,
trained in theology, but did not take up working in a parish,
had the opportunty to travel an the Beagle in its voyage to the Pacific
area
and came to certain conclusions
about Natural Selection from the finches on the Galapogas Islands
and only rushed the publication of his work
when he learnt that Wallace was about to publish his.
He had spent decades working on this book. He was recognized by the
top scientists of the day as a major expert. He was so well known that
Wallace came to Darwin with his paper. Darwin then had his work *and*
Wallace's published together. And Wallace always recognized that
Darwin had the ideas first and had done a better job in supporting
them.
About 150 years later Darwin is still the guru of Evolution.
He is recognized as a major thinker. But the field has progressed
considerably since then.
It can't be determined that
the cruelly of Hitler professing a Christian faith
(which was NOT the true Christian faith)
But Hitler was followed by millions of Christians. And plenty of
Christian Poles were quite happy to continue their killing of Jews.
has any parallel with modern day Christians
who oppose the 'science' that has come from
the writings of Charles Darwin.
Those who may think that way are drawing a very incorrect analogy
between those two men and different understandings of the Christian
faith
The Creationists who oppose evolution do so
from their own scientific studies
Name three of those studies.
which are at as high a level as those of the evolutionists.
You are free to show this, but you will fail. There simply is no
creationist scientific work, not for the last 200 years.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: How Believers Lie About Darwin and Hitler |
03 Oct 2006 11:12:13 PM |
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Generally the same way they lie about anything else: By speaking.
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L8r,
Uncle Clover
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