Religions > Atheism > How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16
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29 Oct 2004 04:41:06 AM |
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How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
How do I discover the TRUTH?
Every person, so said mathematician Blaise Pascal, has a God-shaped void
in them. Billy Graham says in his sermons that no matter where you are
in life, without God, you will know that something is missing. Of all
creatures, God gave man alone the ability to seek ultimate meaning.
Every man or woman at some time must come to grips with what he or she
believes.
We all believe in something. Not believing in anything is believing
in something, though it may be incorrect. Scripture itself instructs us
to test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Truth is there to be
discovered based on the strongest available evidence. Fear may be
keeping us from Truth—fear of facing one's failures or a needless fear
of a changed life. We must examine whether we are throwing up an
intellectual smoke screen to keep from confronting the real issue—our
sin before God.
Most of us at one time or another have experienced the uncomfortable
feeling of Christian views being pushed upon us. In this essay, we have
tried to avoid that and instead present an introduction to Christian
evidences and opportunities fairly for your consideration. As R. C.
Sproul says, if Christianity is not true, you should feel sorry for us
Christians, not get angry with us!
The evidence of the person of Jesus Christ demands a verdict. The
challenge is to take the first step and learn the basics of the
Christian faith. Then you will have a more informed basis for judging
Christianity.
Look up the Scripture passages indicated throughout this essay. Here
are more helpful resources, each of which is well documented. These
resources are the primary references for this essay. The points
presented can be explored more deeply in the pages of these books and tapes.
Most of the books are available at Christian bookstores. Perhaps,
set a goal to read one book a month. Examine for yourself what has been
the most influential movement and way of life in all of history. And
joining a Bible study group in a church that professes the historic
genuine (biblical) Christian faith can be exceptionally rewarding.
Christians fully acknowledge that we cannot by our own reason or
strength alone believe in Jesus Christ. It is only by God's grace that
we can come to faith. The arguments and evidences will not be effective
unless God's Spirit overcomes the natural rebellion in our hearts.
You can be certain that God loves you, holds you accountable, and
has a wonderful plan for you (Psalm 139:16, Proverbs 16:9, Romans 8:29,
Ephesians 1:11, 2:10).
Invite Jesus Christ into your life. Confess that you are a guilty,
rebellious and helpless sinner. Let Christ fill the emptiness in your
soul. Ask him to save you and to lead you in a new direction. Whatever
your past, be assured that God's loving grace will surround you. Then
when death comes, it will be a doorway to eternal joy in heaven with God
(John 3:16).
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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29 Oct 2004 09:10:45 AM |
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How do I discover the TRUTH?
"Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty. That's all
ye know on earth and all ye need to know."
Whatever the hell that means.
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| User: "chris h fleming" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 03:55:06 PM |
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"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote in message news:<cltjof$htt$1@news.chatlink.com>...
How do I discover the TRUTH?
"Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty. That's all
ye know on earth and all ye need to know."
Whatever the hell that means.
Well it's obviously wrong. Truth and Beauty are completely different quarks.
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
02 Nov 2004 03:30:28 PM |
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"chris h fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8dd8e508.0410291255.7e038d0e@posting.google.com...
"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote in message
news:<cltjof$htt$1@news.chatlink.com>...
How do I discover the TRUTH?
"Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty. That's all
ye know on earth and all ye need to know."
Whatever the hell that means.
Well it's obviously wrong. Truth and Beauty are completely different
quarks.
and anyone who watched DS9 knows that Quark was neither
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 04:36:09 PM |
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on 29 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, chris h fleming dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote in message
news:<cltjof$htt$1@news.chatlink.com>...
How do I discover the TRUTH?
"Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty. That's all
ye know on earth and all ye need to know."
Whatever the hell that means.
Well it's obviously wrong. Truth and Beauty are completely different
quarks.
That's because beauty is only skin deep. Ugly goes all the way to the bone.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 11:13:26 AM |
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We all believe in something. Not believing in anything is believing in
something, though it may be incorrect.
That might just be dumbest couple of sentences I've ever read.
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| User: "Ph˙ltźr" |
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30 Oct 2004 02:26:04 AM |
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Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> astounded us with:
news:Seogd.13858$Al3.11793@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:
How do I discover the TRUTH?
Every person, so said mathematician Blaise Pascal, has a God-shaped void
in them. Billy Graham says in his sermons that no matter where you are
in life, without God, you will know that something is missing.
***** you can talk some *****.
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Ph˙ltźr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
Remove "s" to respond
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| User: "M. Ranjit Mathews" |
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29 Oct 2004 06:19:12 PM |
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Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote ...
How do I discover the TRUTH?
Scripture itself instructs us
to test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Truth is there to be
discovered based on the strongest available evidence.
How would one discover the truth about whether anyone has seen God?
Which of these verses is the strongest evidence?
I have seen God face to face ... -- Genesis 32:30
No man hath seen God at any time ...-- John 1:18
How about the truth about whether God is omnipotent? Which of these
verses is the strongest evidence?
.... with God all things are possible. -- Matthew 19:26
.... The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the
mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley,
because they had chariots of iron. -- Judges 1:19
You can be certain that God loves you, holds you accountable, and
has a wonderful plan for you (Psalm 139:16, Proverbs 16:9, Romans 8:29,
Ephesians 1:11, 2:10).
Invite Jesus Christ into your life. Confess that you are a guilty,
rebellious and helpless sinner. Let Christ fill the emptiness in your
soul. Ask him to save you and to lead you in a new direction. Whatever
your past, be assured that God's loving grace will surround you. Then
when death comes, it will be a doorway to eternal joy in heaven with God
(John 3:16).
Which heaven? The 1st? 2nd? 3rd? 7th? Some other?
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago---whether in the body I
do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows---such a man
was caught up to the third heaven.
St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 12:2
the Hebrew word for "heavens" or "sky" appears only in a plural form:
shamayim, implying a multiplicity of heavens. According to one legend,
the Israelites who assembled at Mount Sinai to receive the Torah were
treated to a glimpse of all seven heavens opened up above them. The
Jewish mystical tradition, as it is revealed to us in texts dating
from just after the Talmudic period, turned the concept of seven
heavenly levels into a key focus of its speculations.
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shokel/891103_7th_Heaven.html
Surprisingly, despite the difference viewpoints in the Fathers and in
the NT, Orthodox theologians seem to have reached an almost universal
consensus on the nature of Heaven and Hell ...
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13367
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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29 Oct 2004 06:36:39 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Gospel poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
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Every person, so said mathematician Blaise Pascal, has a God-shaped void
in them.
And Augustine said of mathematicians:
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that
mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the
spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell."
Billy Graham says in his sermons that no matter where you are
in life, without God, you will know that something is missing.
Yup. The mythology.
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As R. C.
Sproul says, if Christianity is not true, you should feel sorry for us
Christians, not get angry with us!
Well, as a matter of fact I DO feel sorry for you.
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Regards,
Josef
Christ rode on an *****, but now asses ride on Christ.
-- Heinrich Heine
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 05:51:19 PM |
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In our last episode <Seogd.13858$Al3.11793@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
Gospel lept out of the bushes shouting:
Billy Graham says in his sermons that no matter where you are in
life, without God, you will know that something is missing.
Well, he was wrong.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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29 Oct 2004 07:22:25 AM |
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In our last episode <Seogd.13858$Al3.11793@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
Gospel lept out of the bushes shouting:
How do I discover the TRUTH?
First, don't read anything posted by "Gospel."
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 11:25:28 AM |
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on 29 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
In our last episode <Seogd.13858$Al3.11793@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
Gospel lept out of the bushes shouting:
How do I discover the TRUTH?
First, don't read anything posted by "Gospel."
Yup, I finally killfiled it.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 03:47:56 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:41:06 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
Every person, so said mathematician Blaise Pascal, has a God-shaped void
in them. Billy Graham says in his sermons that no matter where you are
in life, without God, you will know that something is missing.
GIGO.
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding ...Part 16 |
29 Oct 2004 06:19:13 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:41:06 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote:
How do I discover the TRUTH?
Become a scientist.
From subject line:
How do you know that the Bible is true? - Concluding
Concluding .... hoo...fucking...ray.
Now ***** off from alt.atheism.
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