Religions > Atheism > How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12
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How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't I?
Some people say, "Well, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Ten
Commandments. I try to keep the Golden Rule."
The belief that goodness earns eternal salvation is the single most
prevalent misconception about Christian teaching. The question is, by
whose standard are you "good"—God's perfect standard or man's imperfect
one? Jesus commands us to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly
Father is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). Yet, as Jesus was implying, no one
can meet this standard. No one is good enough to earn salvation.
You either think you are perfect, or you are asking God to accept
some evil, some imperfection. In either case, the sin of pride would
condemn us. Sin is anything that fails to meet God's perfect standard.
It is sin that separates us from God.
In law and in theology, even a single violation renders a guilty
verdict. Christianity recognizes the further truth that our guilt is
more than just one or two trespasses, but a continual condition of
sinfulness. Not a day passes but each person fails to measure up in some
way.
Most people who say they try to follow the Ten Commandments couldn't
even name more than two or three of them. Certainly nobody keeps all the
Ten Commandments all the time. Yet Christ teaches us an even more
profound meaning of sin. He made us aware of the sins of the heart. If
we hate or are angry with our brother we have committed murder in our
heart. The sin of lust is adultery in the heart.
These characteristics expose the true nature of what is in each of
us: prejudice, resentment, jealousy, envy, arrogance, self-centeredness,
self-indulgence, greed, covetousness, malice, backbiting, deceit, sloth,
unfaithfulness, thoughtlessness, hurtfulness, failure to forgive,
rejection of God, and idolatry. If these things were not enough by
themselves, our failure to admit our shortcomings is lying. An aspect of
our sin is our effort to justify our failings.
Christianity teaches that the sins of omission are as important as
the sins of commission. For example, failure to do something good for
one's neighbor is as much of a sin as harming one's neighbor. Whom do
you know that loves every person in the world as much as he loves
himself, and loves God with all of his heart, soul, mind, and strength
(Mark 12:30-31)? That is the standard of goodness set by Jesus!
Of all religions or worldviews, only Christianity has as its
foundation an understanding that all men are sinners and fall short of
the glory of God (Romans 3:23, also Genesis 6:5, 8:21, 1 Kings 8:46, Job
25:4-6, Psalm 14, 51:5, 53:1-3, 58:3, 130:3, Proverbs 14:12, 20:9,
Ecclesiastes 7:20, 7:29, 9:3, Isaiah 53:6, 55:8-9, 64:6, Jeremiah 17:9,
Mark 7:20-23, John 3:19, 8:34, 44, Romans 3:9-12, 5:12-21, 7:14-25,
Ephesians 2:1-3, 1 John 1:8). The question is—Is this true?
Consider this. Would you be willing to let everyone see your
thoughts for the last 24 hours projected on the wall in living color?
Samuel Johnson used a one-liner, "Every man knows that of himself which
he dare not tell his dearest friend."
There is a dark side to humanity. God's light reveals everything
about us, including our dark side. Yet we tend to run away from the light.
One way to expose the lie that man is really basically good, is to
look at communism. Based on the notion that man will work toward the
common good (or is at least perfectible through law and evolution),
communism has been the greatest failure to those under its ideology.
The evidence of man's sinful nature is overwhelming, as world
history cries out to this truth. Anthropologists tell us that one-third
of all humans who ever lived died at the hands of other humans. In the
twentieth century alone, the most advanced ("enlightened") in all
history, well over 100 million people have been murdered by their own
governments (Russia, Germany, China, Cambodia, etc). Every day the
newspaper headlines prove the truth of man's sin nature. Ninety-nine
percent of Americans will be a victim of theft at least once. John Stott
(see resource list) notes that every house in America not only has a
door, but a lock as well.
We are reminded that hell is a reality. Jesus discussed hell more
than any other biblical writer. Hell was in fact his most discussed
topic (with angels being number two and love number three). It cannot be
overstated that we are so far from the standard of God's holiness that
we all deserve eternal punishment in hell. This is very serious business
indeed.
The Christian message is one of human beings created "very good" by
God, but who are separated from God by their own sin and must be
redeemed to become what they were meant to be. Ask yourself whether you
are perfect and living a life pleasing to a holy God. Are you absolutely
honest, pure, loving, and selfless? Do you love your neighbor as
yourself? The human condition is that there are no innocent people. The
need for a Savior is evident. Only Christianity provides an ultimate
resolution to this dilemma (Romans 3:23-24, 5:8, 6:23, Colossians 1:13-14).
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
26 Oct 2004 12:18:31 PM |
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"Gospel" <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message
news:u18fd.10537$Al3.3682@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't
I?
Some people say, "Well, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Ten
Commandments. I try to keep the Golden Rule."
The belief that goodness earns eternal salvation is the single most
prevalent misconception about Christian teaching. The question is, by
whose standard are you "good"—God's perfect standard or man's imperfect
one? Jesus commands us to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father
is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). Yet, as Jesus was implying, no one can meet
this standard. No one is good enough to earn salvation.
You either think you are perfect, or you are asking God to accept some
evil, some imperfection. In either case, the sin of pride would condemn
us. Sin is anything that fails to meet God's perfect standard. It is sin
that separates us from God.
In law and in theology, even a single violation renders a guilty
verdict. Christianity recognizes the further truth that our guilt is more
than just one or two trespasses, but a continual condition of sinfulness.
Not a day passes but each person fails to measure up in some way.
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
A standard to which no one measures up is a great excuse for greater
evils. They can always say: "we're all imperfect." That's why it's important
to abandon religious reasoning and stick to comparing real world realities.
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl/index.html#material
Most people who say they try to follow the Ten Commandments couldn't
even name more than two or three of them. Certainly nobody keeps all the
Ten Commandments all the time. Yet Christ teaches us an even more profound
meaning of sin. He made us aware of the sins of the heart. If we hate or
are angry with our brother we have committed murder in our heart. The sin
of lust is adultery in the heart.
These characteristics expose the true nature of what is in each of us:
prejudice, resentment, jealousy, envy, arrogance, self-centeredness,
self-indulgence, greed, covetousness, malice, backbiting, deceit, sloth,
unfaithfulness, thoughtlessness, hurtfulness, failure to forgive,
rejection of God, and idolatry. If these things were not enough by
themselves, our failure to admit our shortcomings is lying. An aspect of
our sin is our effort to justify our failings.
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
This is the rub: today Christianity is a huge justification for failings,
precisely
because it refuses to dirty its hands with scientific discernment of what is
more evil and what is less evil. If all are evil, then we ask that you
concerned
about the next life leave the real world to those of us who do care about
it.
Stop wasting your time intervening with the impure who can never be pure
in this world according to you.
Christianity teaches that the sins of omission are as important as the
sins of commission. For example, failure to do something good for one's
neighbor is as much of a sin as harming one's neighbor.
Maoist Internationalist Movement replies:
This we agree with. That's why communism is good--because so many millions
starve to death each year under capitalism. Communism takes action and
doubled life expectancies in China and the USSR.
See for example this table of statistics from the US Congress:
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/faq/lifeexpectussr2.html
[snip]
There is a dark side to humanity. God's light reveals everything about
us, including our dark side. Yet we tend to run away from the light.
One way to expose the lie that man is really basically good, is to look
at communism. Based on the notion that man will work toward the common
good (or is at least perfectible through law and evolution), communism has
been the greatest failure to those under its ideology.
The evidence of man's sinful nature is overwhelming, as world history
cries out to this truth. Anthropologists tell us that one-third of all
humans who ever lived died at the hands of other humans. In the twentieth
century alone, the most advanced ("enlightened") in all history, well over
100 million people have been murdered by their own governments (Russia,
Germany, China, Cambodia, etc). Every day the
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
This is a statement of pride in Amerika and the West by anti-communists.
You will not find a list of "murdered" people, because the vast majority
of that 100 million figure stems from projections of population loss, not
actual repressions.
Your figure comes from the "Black Book of Communism" and the like.
See our review here:
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/agitation/blackbook/index.html
You may also be surprised to learn that we communist scientists following
Marx do NOT think people are perfect. Otherwise, no civil war to end
slavery would have been necessary, no violent revolutions. We
are imperfect.
There are some of us justifying sin by saying none are perfect while others
of us are trying to organize society so that it promotes the least sin our
imperfect species is capable of at the moment.
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
28 Oct 2004 01:06:13 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:18:31 -0400, "Maoist" <bosmim@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Gospel" <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message
news:u18fd.10537$Al3.3682@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't
I?
Some people say, "Well, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Ten
Commandments. I try to keep the Golden Rule."
The belief that goodness earns eternal salvation is the single most
prevalent misconception about Christian teaching. The question is, by
whose standard are you "good"—God's perfect standard or man's imperfect
one? Jesus commands us to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father
is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). Yet, as Jesus was implying, no one can meet
this standard. No one is good enough to earn salvation.
You either think you are perfect, or you are asking God to accept some
evil, some imperfection. In either case, the sin of pride would condemn
us. Sin is anything that fails to meet God's perfect standard. It is sin
that separates us from God.
In law and in theology, even a single violation renders a guilty
verdict. Christianity recognizes the further truth that our guilt is more
than just one or two trespasses, but a continual condition of sinfulness.
Not a day passes but each person fails to measure up in some way.
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
A standard to which no one measures up is a great excuse for greater
evils. They can always say: "we're all imperfect." That's why it's important
to abandon religious reasoning and stick to comparing real world realities.
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl/index.html#material
Most people who say they try to follow the Ten Commandments couldn't
even name more than two or three of them. Certainly nobody keeps all the
Ten Commandments all the time. Yet Christ teaches us an even more profound
meaning of sin. He made us aware of the sins of the heart. If we hate or
are angry with our brother we have committed murder in our heart. The sin
of lust is adultery in the heart.
These characteristics expose the true nature of what is in each of us:
prejudice, resentment, jealousy, envy, arrogance, self-centeredness,
self-indulgence, greed, covetousness, malice, backbiting, deceit, sloth,
unfaithfulness, thoughtlessness, hurtfulness, failure to forgive,
rejection of God, and idolatry. If these things were not enough by
themselves, our failure to admit our shortcomings is lying. An aspect of
our sin is our effort to justify our failings.
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
This is the rub: today Christianity is a huge justification for failings,
precisely
because it refuses to dirty its hands with scientific discernment of what is
more evil and what is less evil. If all are evil, then we ask that you
concerned
about the next life leave the real world to those of us who do care about
it.
Stop wasting your time intervening with the impure who can never be pure
in this world according to you.
Christianity teaches that the sins of omission are as important as the
sins of commission. For example, failure to do something good for one's
neighbor is as much of a sin as harming one's neighbor.
Maoist Internationalist Movement replies:
This we agree with. That's why communism is good--because so many millions
starve to death each year under capitalism. Communism takes action and
doubled life expectancies in China and the USSR.
See for example this table of statistics from the US Congress:
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/faq/lifeexpectussr2.html
[snip]
There is a dark side to humanity. God's light reveals everything about
us, including our dark side. Yet we tend to run away from the light.
One way to expose the lie that man is really basically good, is to look
at communism. Based on the notion that man will work toward the common
good (or is at least perfectible through law and evolution), communism has
been the greatest failure to those under its ideology.
The evidence of man's sinful nature is overwhelming, as world history
cries out to this truth. Anthropologists tell us that one-third of all
humans who ever lived died at the hands of other humans. In the twentieth
century alone, the most advanced ("enlightened") in all history, well over
100 million people have been murdered by their own governments (Russia,
Germany, China, Cambodia, etc). Every day the
Maoist Internationalist Movement:
This is a statement of pride in Amerika and the West by anti-communists.
You will not find a list of "murdered" people, because the vast majority
of that 100 million figure stems from projections of population loss, not
actual repressions.
Your figure comes from the "Black Book of Communism" and the like.
See our review here:
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/agitation/blackbook/index.html
You may also be surprised to learn that we communist scientists following
Marx do NOT think people are perfect. Otherwise, no civil war to end
slavery would have been necessary, no violent revolutions. We
are imperfect.
There are some of us justifying sin by saying none are perfect while others
of us are trying to organize society so that it promotes the least sin our
imperfect species is capable of at the moment.
And I thought people preaching about GOD were annoying...
Godfrey
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The truth is a precious commodity. That's why I use it so sparingly.
- Mark Twain
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26 Oct 2004 06:09:59 AM |
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Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message news:<u18fd.10537$Al3.3682@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>...
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't I?
Some people say, "Well, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Ten
Commandments. I try to keep the Golden Rule."
The simple fact is , it is not true. It is not from God Himself. It is
from those who thought whatever they thought God thought. Throw it
out.
If you want to know what God said, see Gita. Lord Krishna Himself
appears in Flesh, in His Omnipotent Form and teaches. That is true.
Bible is false
Q.E.D
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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26 Oct 2004 06:27:23 AM |
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"Madhu Sudhan" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:81b78a45.0410260309.6d1c15e2@posting.google.com...
Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message
news:<u18fd.10537$Al3.3682@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>...
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't
I?
Some people say, "Well, I'm a Christian. I believe in the Ten
Commandments. I try to keep the Golden Rule."
The simple fact is , it is not true. It is not from God Himself. It is
from those who thought whatever they thought God thought. Throw it
out.
If you want to know what God said, see Gita. Lord Krishna Himself
appears in Flesh, in His Omnipotent Form and teaches. That is true.
Bible is false
Oooooookay
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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26 Oct 2004 06:06:41 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:09:59 -0700, Madhu Sudhan wrote:
If you want to know what God said
You're wasting your time as no such beings exist to *say anything at all...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
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25 Oct 2004 01:59:52 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 +0000, Gospel wrote prohibited proselytizing
crap yet again:
X-Complaints-To:
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
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| User: "raven1" |
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25 Oct 2004 05:47:42 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship of
His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
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| User: "Apostle Thomas Batchelor" |
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25 Oct 2004 07:52:09 PM |
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There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus. God does not want to be called Allah; God's name is not Allah.
Mohammad was in fact not a prophet, was a desert pirate, and cannot save.
The Lord Jesus' kingdom WILL REPLACE ALL KINGDOMS. Find some
real Christians who the signs in Mark 16:17-20 follow; and join up with the
sure thing going. Come aboard. It's great. Do no evil and listen to
us, and
pray saying Lord Jesus, save me. I pray for you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:6g0rn01ju6jpfftp25kbe8an99ks9ma5us@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't
I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship of
His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
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| User: "Sonny" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
25 Oct 2004 10:52:06 PM |
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"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in
news:e7355$417da031$3fbac909$25437@allthenewsgroups.com:
There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man
Christ
Jesus. God does not want to be called Allah; God's name is not
Allah. Mohammad was in fact not a prophet, was a desert pirate, and
cannot save. The Lord Jesus' kingdom WILL REPLACE ALL KINGDOMS. Find
some real Christians who the signs in Mark 16:17-20 follow; and join
up with the sure thing going. Come aboard. It's great. Do no
evil and listen to us, and
pray saying Lord Jesus, save me. I pray for you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:6g0rn01ju6jpfftp25kbe8an99ks9ma5us@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one,
won't
I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship
of His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
Perhaps it is time for you and your new Muslim friend to both show some of
the kindness and consideration your beliefs purport to have by removing
the non-belief system newsgroups from your posts.
To paraphrase Pastor Frank, please stop posting your ridiculous beliefs to
our pristine atheist and buddhist newsgroups.
Thanking you in advance for your kind consideration.....
:)
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26 Oct 2004 03:22:29 PM |
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On 26 Oct 2004 03:52:06 GMT, Sonny <sonnyfabbich@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in
news:e7355$417da031$3fbac909$25437@allthenewsgroups.com:
There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man
Christ
Jesus. God does not want to be called Allah; God's name is not
Allah. Mohammad was in fact not a prophet, was a desert pirate, and
cannot save. The Lord Jesus' kingdom WILL REPLACE ALL KINGDOMS. Find
some real Christians who the signs in Mark 16:17-20 follow; and join
up with the sure thing going. Come aboard. It's great. Do no
evil and listen to us, and
pray saying Lord Jesus, save me. I pray for you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:6g0rn01ju6jpfftp25kbe8an99ks9ma5us@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one,
won't
I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship
of His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
Perhaps it is time for you and your new Muslim friend to both show some of
the kindness and consideration your beliefs purport to have by removing
the non-belief system newsgroups from your posts.
Criminey! Do I have to write <SARCASM> every time I use it? I'm an
atheist, not a Muslim.
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| User: "Sonny" |
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27 Oct 2004 01:25:25 AM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
news:irctn0p1aggussnb2j7m5g1b8ovaalg04l@4ax.com:
On 26 Oct 2004 03:52:06 GMT, Sonny <sonnyfabbich@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in
news:e7355$417da031$3fbac909$25437@allthenewsgroups.com:
There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man
Christ
Jesus. God does not want to be called Allah; God's name is not
Allah. Mohammad was in fact not a prophet, was a desert pirate, and
cannot save. The Lord Jesus' kingdom WILL REPLACE ALL KINGDOMS.
Find some real Christians who the signs in Mark 16:17-20 follow; and
join up with the sure thing going. Come aboard. It's great. Do
no evil and listen to us, and
pray saying Lord Jesus, save me. I pray for you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:6g0rn01ju6jpfftp25kbe8an99ks9ma5us@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one,
won't
I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship
of His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
Perhaps it is time for you and your new Muslim friend to both show
some of the kindness and consideration your beliefs purport to have by
removing the non-belief system newsgroups from your posts.
Criminey! Do I have to write <SARCASM> every time I use it? I'm an
atheist, not a Muslim.
What can I say? It was a very convincing ruse.
Peace be upon you!
:)
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25 Oct 2004 09:01:00 PM |
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"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in message
news:e7355$417da031$3fbac909$25437@allthenewsgroups.com...
There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus. God does not want to be called Allah; God's name is not Allah.
Mohammad was in fact not a prophet, was a desert pirate, and cannot save.
The Lord Jesus' kingdom WILL REPLACE ALL KINGDOMS. Find some
real Christians who the signs in Mark 16:17-20 follow; and join up with
the
sure thing going. Come aboard. It's great. Do no evil and listen to
us, and
pray saying Lord Jesus, save me. I pray for you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
Been there, done that.
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Chinese accordions suck.
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25 Oct 2004 08:21:04 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:47:42 +0000, raven1 wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't
I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) will
weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship of His
prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
No. You mean when Ragnarok comes...
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
26 Oct 2004 04:13:04 AM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one, won't I?
No. On Judgment Day, the prophets Mohammed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
will weep as Allah casts you into Hell for your blasphemous worship of
His prophet Jesus (pbuh) as divine.
This mistaken belied derrives from people who think that in Christianity
heaven is a reward. It isn't, it is an exclusive members club and only
people who join while alive are allowed in. People wouldn't walk down
to any other exclusive club in their town and demand to be allowed in to
enjoy the ammenites simply on the basis of being a good person
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: How do you know that the Bible is true? Continued ..Part 12 |
25 Oct 2004 10:07:23 AM |
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on 25 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, Gospel dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
I've lived a pretty good life. I'll go to heaven, if there is one,
won't I?
Nope. Concentrate on this life. It's all you have.
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Vic Sagerquist
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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