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"words of truth" |
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17 Oct 2005 04:06:26 PM |
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How Do You Practice Atheism? |
Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
Well, in the US, "practicing atheism" typically means sneering at
Christianity, since this is the dominant religion. Lately, the sneers
have been extended to Islam for understandable reasons. Judaism gets
fewer sneers, since atheists are as sensitive to charges of
anti-semitism as the rest of us and Judaism is unique in that it has an
ethnic as well as religious character. Since Americans are obsessed
with sin against race, they are more cautious there.
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions. Few atheist websites spend many electrons sneering at
animism, or Sun worship, or Norse religion. As Chesterton said, if you
want to know what a culture holds sacred, just look at what it
considers blasphemous. "If you don't believe it," said Chesterton, "try
to have a blasphemous thought about Loki."
Interestingly, the most volatile terms in our culture are not
religious, but ethnic. Take the name of the Lord in vain and nobody
frets much. Say "niggardly" and a hush of dread falls over the crowd.
That too, tells you what we regard as sacred.
This, by the way, should be a caution for us. Nothing is held sacred
for long without generating a perverse backlash. A certain percentage
of people will applaud *anything* they deem as "transgressive" against
the Establishment. Civil rights have made legitimate gains in the past
century. That will be endangered, not by 19th Century KKK types longing
for the past, but by 21st punks who think they are being "daring" by
blaspheming accepted Establishment figures like Martin Luther King.
Look for the day when the same negating mentality that animates
mindless atheism is turned from Christian sacred things to secular
sacred things. If it can be held sacred, it will be blasphemed by
somebody. And the blasphemer *always* congratulates himself on being a
cut above the common herd of mankind.
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2003_01_01_markshea_archive.html#87844518
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| User: "Edgar A Pearlstein" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 05:25:52 PM |
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Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
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| User: "Alan S" |
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18 Oct 2005 05:52:11 AM |
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(Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
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| User: "" |
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20 Oct 2005 09:58:47 AM |
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On 18-Oct-2005, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees.
I'd say that (strictly from an observational standpoint) that atheism
is passive right u puntil an atheist is forced to be confrontational.
And for some atheists, this is not just on Usenet.
You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Rather like scj & all the anti-Jews.
I know *I* don't post to aa unless something gets x-posted to scj....
Susan
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| User: "1973 Dead" |
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18 Oct 2005 08:56:15 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
--
"'I’m not meeting with that goddamned *****,' Bush screamed at aides
who suggested he meet with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother
whose son died in Iraq. 'She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!'"
--Putsch, a decompensating drunk
"Grover Norquist couldn't drown the government, so he drowned New Orleans instead."
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Oct 2005 09:26:01 AM |
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"1973 Dead" <zepp1973#2211finestplanet.com@> wrote in message
news:jmv9l1hoomraqfsnc1rb8mdj596qcesmdp@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
No, that's only on alternate Wednesdays ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "1973 Dead" |
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18 Oct 2005 10:09:55 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:26:01 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"1973 Dead" <zepp1973#2211finestplanet.com@> wrote in message
news:jmv9l1hoomraqfsnc1rb8mdj596qcesmdp@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
No, that's only on alternate Wednesdays ;)
You understand, of course, that a child who doesn't believe in Santa
Claus can't possibly have anything to base a moral framework upon.
Kids who don't believe in Santa need to be locked up for the
protection of society.
--
"'I’m not meeting with that goddamned *****,' Bush screamed at aides
who suggested he meet with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother
whose son died in Iraq. 'She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!'"
--Putsch, a decompensating drunk
"Grover Norquist couldn't drown the government, so he drowned New Orleans instead."
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_news
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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18 Oct 2005 06:19:06 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:56:15 -0700, 1973 Dead
<zepp1973#2211finestplanet.com@> spake thusly:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
Alt.atheism stays active, without anyone's help
that isn't an atheist.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give you as a Light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.
- Israel 49:6
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| User: "1977 Dead" |
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18 Oct 2005 06:39:13 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:19:06 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:56:15 -0700, 1973 Dead
<zepp1973#2211finestplanet.com@> spake thusly:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
Alt.atheism stays active, without anyone's help
that isn't an atheist.
Why shouldn't they. After all, folks who are atheists on the subjects
of Santa Claus and black cats don't have nutballs attacking them or
trying to coerce thier children. (Actually, there ARE support groups
for people who don't what their children subjected to the Santa Claus
myth, reasoning that, like Christianity, it simply tries to bribe and
blackmail people into moral behavior.)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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18 Oct 2005 07:17:06 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:39:13 -0700, 1977 Dead
<zepp#22111977dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> spake
thusly:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:19:06 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:56:15 -0700, 1973 Dead
<zepp1973#2211finestplanet.com@> spake thusly:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Nonbelievers on the issue of Santa Clause and black cats aren't under
constant attack from elves and cat fanciers, either.
Alt.atheism stays active, without anyone's help
that isn't an atheist.
Why shouldn't they.
I said nothing about whether they should, or shouldn't.
I pointed out an untruth. But truth isn't a concern for
you. Jumping on Christians is, even when you can't
dispute what they've said.
After all, folks who are atheists on the subjects
of Santa Claus and black cats don't have nutballs attacking them or
trying to coerce thier children.
And they say that it is Christians who are whining about
being persecuted.
Of course, when Christians tell them that they don't like
nudity on TV, they say, "Turn the channel", even though
being able to air that stuff, involves legal changes.
So you don't get to complain about laws and then, claim
that Christians shouldn't. You only prove your bigotry by
doing so. You know, the thing you accuse Christians of.
(Actually, there ARE support groups
for people who don't what their children subjected to the Santa Claus
myth, reasoning that, like Christianity, it simply tries to bribe and
blackmail people into moral behavior.)
Right. It's okay to force your evolution fairy tale on my
children, because YOU prefer it to be that way. It is
not okay however, for me to object.
You are an anti-American bigot.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give you as a Light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.
- Israel 49:6
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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19 Oct 2005 09:27:31 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nos
Right. It's okay to force your evolution fairy tale on my
children, because YOU prefer it to be that way. It is
not okay however, for me to object.
You are an anti-American bigot.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
hey stupid-evolution is a FACT.
another word for it is called "CHANGE".
maybe your little dead pea brain can handle that word.
your religion is nothing more than myth.
it is evil-that makes you evil.
i destroy evil such as you.
your time is up.
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I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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19 Oct 2005 02:53:32 PM |
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Evolution is a theory, not a fact.
Evil is relative and subjective.
"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in
message : >
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: hey stupid-evolution is a FACT.
: another word for it is called "CHANGE".
: maybe your little dead pea brain can handle that word.
: your religion is nothing more than myth.
: it is evil-that makes you evil.
: i destroy evil such as you.
: your time is up.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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18 Oct 2005 09:50:13 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Then *****, keep your religion to yourself instead of rubbing both
your religion and your slanderous falsehoods in our faces, and there
will be no reaction.
I'm sure you understand the difference between an action and a
reaction which wouldn't otherwise have happened.
And that the behaviour of most theists who come here is rude and
inappropriate - in a venue where we don't have to be the Uncle Toms
they expect atheists to be.
This newsgroup was set up by atheists for atheists to discuss atheist
issues.
Of which the hypothetical belief object of somebody else's religion
isn't one.
Although the morons who rub their stupidity and slander in our faces
are very much an issue.
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| User: "Alan S" |
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18 Oct 2005 08:38:09 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Then *****, keep your religion to yourself instead of rubbing both
your religion and your slanderous falsehoods in our faces,
Sorry to burst your bubble but isn't what you just said a falsehood
itself, for I have not rubbed my religion in your face, nor have I
even said I do have one. In fact, I doubt I could even do that if I
tried, for I am an atheist.
and there will be no reaction.
When your purpose of being here is to flame (as you have
demonstrated), I doubt it.
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| User: "Ben" |
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18 Oct 2005 09:58:22 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:52:11 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:
epearlst@unlserve.unl.edu (Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
Yet, alt.aSantaClaus and alt.aBlackCatsBringBadLuck gets little
traffic. Atheism, for those who contribute here at least, isn't a
passive position like not believing Santa Claus is real (or believing
it is not real, depending on your subclassification). Whether we like
it or not, everybody here at alt.atheism (theists as well as atheist,
sometimes even more so) are confrontational to varying degrees. You
can say this is where atheists practice. Strangely, a lot of theists
are willingly assisting by assuming the role of practice targets, for
if they stopped posting and crossposting, this place would get pretty
quiet in a hurry.
Then *****, keep your religion to yourself instead of rubbing both
your religion and your slanderous falsehoods in our faces, and there
will be no reaction.
I'm sure you understand the difference between an action and a
reaction which wouldn't otherwise have happened.
And that the behaviour of most theists who come here is rude and
inappropriate - in a venue where we don't have to be the Uncle Toms
they expect atheists to be.
This newsgroup was set up by atheists for atheists to discuss atheist
issues.
It seems odd then that people in this group continue to respond to the
xtian trolls.
Of which the hypothetical belief object of somebody else's religion
isn't one.
Although the morons who rub their stupidity and slander in our faces
are very much an issue.
Only if you pay attention to them.
Ben
--
Squirting rubbing alcohol up your
nose is rather unpleasant.
-Sanford, ABSFG
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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17 Oct 2005 06:44:46 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:25:52 +0000 (UTC),
(Edgar A Pearlstein) wrote:
Atheism is simply a non-belief. One doesn't "practice" it any more
than one practices non-belief in Santa Claus or bad luck brought on by
black cats.
One of mine is black - which means I don't always see it when it is
sitting in the shadows. And she's got the bad habit of walking with me
between my feet. So I don't always see her until I trip over her.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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17 Oct 2005 05:36:39 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> writes:
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions.
We spend as much time fretting about Islam and we do about
Christianity. Like most religions, both want atheists dead. Unlike
most religions, practitioners of those two, when not busy killing each
other, have the power to act on atheists.
"If you don't believe it," said Chesterton, "try to have a blasphemous
thought about Loki."
It's hard to have blasphemous thoughts about Jesus, too.
Interestingly, the most volatile terms in our culture are not
religious, but ethnic. Take the name of the Lord in vain and nobody
frets much.
See what I mean? Grief, love watching theists disarm themselves
in public.
Elf
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| User: "" |
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20 Oct 2005 10:00:53 AM |
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On 17-Oct-2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> writes:
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions.
We spend as much time fretting about Islam and we do about
Christianity. Like most religions, both want atheists dead. Unlike
most religions, practitioners of those two, when not busy killing each
other, have the power to act on atheists.
This is completely false.
"Most religions" aren't like this.
Susan
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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17 Oct 2005 05:27:57 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
I find I'm already pretty good at it, so I don't send more that ten
minutes a day practicing, just to keep a fine edge on my atheist skills.
I wonder, though, how you practice being a Christian. Do you give away
all your accumulated wealth as Jesus commands you to do? Do you pray in
private as Jesus commands?
I'd say it was you Christians who need the practice.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"There are hundreds of millions who believe the Messiah has come. If he
did, then it is unfortunately the case that his heroic sacrifice and
death have had no effect whatsoever on the very problem his coming might
have been expected to address, for history demonstrates, beyond question,
that we Christians have been just as dangerous, singly and en masse, as
non-Christians."
-Steve Allen
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 05:21:12 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in
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Subject: How Do You Practice Atheism?
I'm takin' a correspondence course, snapperhead.
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 04:58:10 AM |
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Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Subject: How Do You Practice Atheism?
I'm takin' a correspondence course, snapperhead.
Ah - I've seen that, too.
--------- X8 SNIP X8 ----------- X8 SNIP X8 -----------
Learning Atheism by Correspondence Course Offer Coupon.
Each week we send you a new god.
If you choose to reject this god and not believe in him/her/it next week
we'll send you a new one.
If at any time you are unsatisfied with your learning atheism by
correspondence course and choose to accept the god, you need make only
one low payment for a partial frontal lobotomy and the god is YOURS TO
KEEP!
Offer void in Canada, Texas and Hell.
--------- X8 SNIP X8 ----------- X8 SNIP X8 -----------
Jesus!
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 05:39:33 PM |
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Jesus H Christ <jhc@catholic.religion.com> wrote in
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Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in
news:Xns96F2B0E2856DDaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18:
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Subject: How Do You Practice Atheism?
I'm takin' a correspondence course, snapperhead.
Ah - I've seen that, too.
--------- X8 SNIP X8 ----------- X8 SNIP X8 -----------
Learning Atheism by Correspondence Course Offer Coupon.
Each week we send you a new god.
If you choose to reject this god and not believe in him/her/it next
week
we'll send you a new one.
If at any time you are unsatisfied with your learning atheism by
correspondence course and choose to accept the god, you need make only
one low payment for a partial frontal lobotomy and the god is YOURS TO
KEEP!
Offer void in Canada, Texas and Hell.
Mine's a different one; it's a thirty-day course with no curriculum.
After thirty days you get a post card:
DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD(S)?
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
If you answer this correctly, you're an atheist.
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 05:26:04 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
you are perhaps the biggest moron ever
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| User: "Kelo Disaster" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 06:10:06 PM |
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
you are perhaps the biggest moron ever
Is that it? <looking around the congregation> Anyone else wish to
speak? <again looking around the congregation> Ok then, please exit the
pews is an orderly fashion starting with AA #0001 and as usual any donations
are always appreciated.
Oh yeah, one more thing, all new Christian bashing quips and slogans should
be sent by FAX until we can get the server fixed.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 08:05:37 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
By going about daily life as usual, but not incorporating goddist claptrap
into it. No praying, no rituals, no church.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 12:08:00 AM |
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In article <dj1hos$4o9$1@news.seed.net.tw>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
By going about daily life as usual, but not incorporating goddist claptrap
into it. No praying, no rituals, no church.
In other words, there is no need to practice what is perfect!
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
17 Oct 2005 10:58:24 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
By saying "I don't believe you" when someone says there's a god.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "shrikeback" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 01:57:11 AM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1129583186.851049.271890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Somebody below asked "How do you 'practice atheism'?"
The best way to improve your atheism is not to practice, but
rather to read some goofy Christian apologetics, to remind
yourself just why you aren't a Christian.
Well, in the US, "practicing atheism" typically means sneering at
Christianity, since this is the dominant religion.
You confuse cause with effect.
. Lately, the sneers
have been extended to Islam for understandable reasons.
What do you mean, "lately"?
Judaism gets
fewer sneers, since atheists are as sensitive to charges of
anti-semitism as the rest of us and Judaism is unique in that it has an
ethnic as well as religious character. Since Americans are obsessed
with sin against race, they are more cautious there.
Race is not infectious. Christianity seems to be.
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions. Few atheist websites spend many electrons sneering at
animism, or Sun worship, or Norse religion.
Those things are not a threat. Well, not much of one, to most people.
But if you have a schizophrenic relative who's into everything from
Revelations, to Edgar Cayce, to little green men, and Atlantis, well,
you'd kind of feel the same way about any of that hokus pokus
gobbledygook as you would Christianity. I can attest to that.
Let me tell you what caused my stock in Bill Maher to crash.
He went on and on about being so irreligious on Politically
Incorrect. I liked that about him. He may be a phony baloney
limosine liberal, but at least he was an atheist with some guts. "I
believe that religion is bad, and drugs are good," his writing team
wrote in one monologue. This was in a list of reasons he could
never be elected to public office.
I saw a little post by him on a website devoted to him, billmaher.tv,
discussing the virtues of Astrology. Not the simple minded, sound
bite kind, but the "deep" variety. Oh man. Some atheist.
As Chesterton said, if you
want to know what a culture holds sacred, just look at what it
considers blasphemous. "If you don't believe it," said Chesterton, "try
to have a blasphemous thought about Loki."
Okay, how about this:
Jesus and Loki both walk into a gay bar.
Interestingly, the most volatile terms in our culture are not
religious, but ethnic. Take the name of the Lord in vain and nobody
frets much. Say "niggardly" and a hush of dread falls over the crowd.
That too, tells you what we regard as sacred.
This, by the way, should be a caution for us. Nothing is held sacred
for long without generating a perverse backlash.
So you're saying that not everyone will go along with anything?
Sure. That's life. Pick something. A position on anything. I
can find someone who'll disagree with it. I know that causes
Christians no end of misery. How can someone disagree with
us? It just doesn't make sense.
A certain percentage
of people will applaud *anything* they deem as "transgressive" against
the Establishment.
Okay. You're right about that. A certain percentage.
Civil rights have made legitimate gains in the past
century. That will be endangered, not by 19th Century KKK types longing
for the past, but by 21st punks who think they are being "daring" by
blaspheming accepted Establishment figures like Martin Luther King.
Look for the day when the same negating mentality that animates
mindless atheism is turned from Christian sacred things to secular
sacred things. If it can be held sacred, it will be blasphemed by
somebody. And the blasphemer *always* congratulates himself on being a
cut above the common herd of mankind.
So, now, it appears that having atheists badmouthing Christianity,
leads, by some leap of faith or perhaps a slippery slope, to the
coming of the Fourth Reich. Slippery slopes are spreading out
before us like it's the next ice age, as foretold in the Bible and
Nostradamus combined!
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 06:15:16 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:57:11 -0700, "shrikeback"
<hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions. Few atheist websites spend many electrons sneering at
animism, or Sun worship, or Norse religion.
Those things are not a threat.
And the atheist proves that he does "practice atheism"
and is on his intentional mission to try to wipe out
Christianity, all the while, claiming to be tolerant and
loving and for things like free speech.
I love it when you guys respond, because you always bury
yourself. And as each one does and proves himself dishonest
and unworthy of bothering with, as one who has no interest
in honest, truthful discussion, he joins the rest in the
kill file. And now it's your turn.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give you as a Light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.
- Israel 49:6
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| User: "shrikeback" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
19 Oct 2005 12:52:59 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:57:11 -0700, "shrikeback"
<hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions. Few atheist websites spend many electrons sneering at
animism, or Sun worship, or Norse religion.
Those things are not a threat.
And the atheist proves that he does "practice atheism"
and is on his intentional mission to try to wipe out
Christianity, all the while, claiming to be tolerant and
loving and for things like free speech.
Sheesh. You know, I've heard people call you, "paranoid,"
behind your back.
I love it when you guys respond, because you always bury
yourself. And as each one does and proves himself dishonest
and unworthy of bothering with, as one who has no interest
in honest, truthful discussion, he joins the rest in the
kill file. And now it's your turn.
That hurts me inside. Would Jesus do that?
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: How Do You Practice Atheism? |
18 Oct 2005 08:58:56 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:15:16 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:57:11 -0700, "shrikeback"
<hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Atheists do not spend a great deal of time fretting about non-Western
religions. Few atheist websites spend many electrons sneering at
animism, or Sun worship, or Norse religion.
Those things are not a threat.
And the atheist proves that he does "practice atheism"
and is on his intentional mission to try to wipe out
Christianity, all the while, claiming to be tolerant and
loving and for things like free speech.
Stop lying about us to us, and there will no responses of the kind you
lie about.
I love it when you guys respond, because you always bury
yourself. And as each one does and proves himself dishonest
and unworthy of bothering with, as one who has no interest
in honest, truthful discussion, he joins the rest in the
kill file. And now it's your turn.
You are a disgusting, nasty, in-your-face liar.
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