Religions > Atheism > How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ?
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10 Sep 2004 03:25:39 PM |
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How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ?
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Bush fans claim that the National Guard granted him official permission to go
to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign.
Let us assume that this is correct.
At the same time Lieutenant Bush was working on this Senate campaign
[a matter of vital importance to the defense of the USA]
other Lieutenants were being killed and wounded in Vietnam.
Where did this defender of American freedom go next ?
Vietnam ?
No.
Harvard Business School.
Very few bullets fly at Harvard Business School.
At least, not so far.
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| User: "The True AntiLiberal" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 12:56:05 AM |
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wrote in message news:<id34k055t056t0u2nicgm5tc23ml686irr@4ax.com>...
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ?
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Bush didn't commit war crimes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/4772030/
(Videotape, MEET THE PRESS, April 18, 1971):
MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): There are all kinds of
atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the
same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed
in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns
which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon
against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the
burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare.
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| User: "HubCity" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 07:56:09 AM |
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(The True AntiLiberal) wrote in
news:1f3b80af.0409102156.4209dedc@posting.google.com:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote in message
news:<id34k055t056t0u2nicgm5tc23ml686irr@4ax.com>...
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record
?
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Bush didn't commit war crimes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/4772030/
(Videotape, MEET THE PRESS, April 18, 1971):
MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): There are all kinds of
atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the
same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed
in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns
which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon
against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the
burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare.
And so did John O'Neill.
From the ***** Cavett Show, June 30, 1971:
MR. KERRY: Did you serve in a free fire zone?
MR. O'NEILL: I certainly did serve in a free fire zone.
MR. KERRY: [Reading] "Free fire zone, in which we kill anything that moves
- man, woman or child. This practice suspends the distinction between
combatant and non-combatant and contravenes Geneva Convention Article 3.1."
MR. O'NEILL: Where is that from, John?
MR. KERRY: Geneva Conventions. You've heard about the Geneva Conventions.
[Audience laughter.]
-HubCity
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| User: "FREEPME" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 02:57:42 PM |
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HubCity <uhopvgl@rkvg109.pbz> wrote in message news:<Xns95615BC978DDChubcityspokerepair@167.206.3.2>...
thetrueantiliberal@yahoo.com (The True AntiLiberal) wrote in
news:1f3b80af.0409102156.4209dedc@posting.google.com:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote in message
news:<id34k055t056t0u2nicgm5tc23ml686irr@4ax.com>...
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record
?
______________________________________________________________________
Bush didn't commit war crimes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/4772030/
(Videotape, MEET THE PRESS, April 18, 1971):
MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): There are all kinds of
atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the
same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed
in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns
which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon
against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the
burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare.
And so did John O'Neill.
From the ***** Cavett Show, June 30, 1971:
MR. KERRY: Did you serve in a free fire zone?
MR. O'NEILL: I certainly did serve in a free fire zone.
MR. KERRY: [Reading] "Free fire zone, in which we kill anything that moves
- man, woman or child. This practice suspends the distinction between
combatant and non-combatant and contravenes Geneva Convention Article 3.1."
MR. O'NEILL: Where is that from, John?
MR. KERRY: Geneva Conventions. You've heard about the Geneva Conventions.
[Audience laughter.]
-HubCity
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Thank God that the NYFD was not made up of a bunch of Bush's on
9/11. Imagine how many more would have died if the NYFD had FROZEN
from fear and sat on their *****'s for seven minutes. We need a warrior
like Kerry not a princess like Bush.
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FREEPME
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| User: "The True AntiLiberal" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 07:19:51 PM |
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HubCity <uhopvgl@rkvg109.pbz> wrote in message news:<Xns95615BC978DDChubcityspokerepair@167.206.3.2>...
thetrueantiliberal@yahoo.com (The True AntiLiberal) wrote in
news:1f3b80af.0409102156.4209dedc@posting.google.com:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote in message
news:<id34k055t056t0u2nicgm5tc23ml686irr@4ax.com>...
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record
?
______________________________________________________________________
Bush didn't commit war crimes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/4772030/
(Videotape, MEET THE PRESS, April 18, 1971):
MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): There are all kinds of
atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the
same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed
in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns
which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon
against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the
burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare.
And so did John O'Neill.
From the ***** Cavett Show, June 30, 1971:
MR. KERRY: Did you serve in a free fire zone?
MR. O'NEILL: I certainly did serve in a free fire zone.
MR. KERRY: [Reading] "Free fire zone, in which we kill anything that moves
- man, woman or child. This practice suspends the distinction between
combatant and non-combatant and contravenes Geneva Convention Article 3.1."
MR. O'NEILL: Where is that from, John?
MR. KERRY: Geneva Conventions. You've heard about the Geneva Conventions.
[Audience laughter.]
-HubCity
O'Neill NEVER said that he took part in free fire zones where there
were 'people' (aka civilians). That is specifically what Kerry said.
What Kerry was reading to O'Neill was NOT the official US policy. That
is the question O'Neill was asking Kerry about, not what is the Geneva
Convention. Kerry apparently believed he could just shoot at anybody.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 08:10:07 PM |
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On 10 Sep 2004 22:56:05 -0700, (The True
AntiLiberal) wrote:
Bush didn't commit war crimes.
It's far worse than that.
When serving, he didn't - he deserted.
While being the president he carries the full responsibility for them.
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| User: "Nash" |
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| Title: Re: How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record ? |
11 Sep 2004 07:48:41 AM |
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On 11 Sep 2004, you wrote in alt.fan.howard-stern:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote in message
news:<id34k055t056t0u2nicgm5tc23ml686irr@4ax.com>...
How does Bush's military record compare with Kerry's military record
?
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Bush didn't commit war crimes.
um...yes he did.
In fact, by the rules of the Geneva Convention and the Nuremberg Code,
ORDERING the commission of war crimes is a far worse crime than the
actual physical participation in them.
Therefore ordering the unlawful invasion of iraq, detainment of POWs
without notice or proper conditions, torturing of prisoners, Public
display of captured soldiers...
Kerry may have committed crimes, but by the employed standard, he would
hardly be touched by an international court. Bush, on the other hand,
would be easily indicted.
Oh wait... we don't like the world court any more, they.... the ruled
against us.... once.
Just goes to show how far we've gone.
When you refuse to abide by the rulling of a court YOU CREATED, it is not
a good sign for the progress of your society....
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