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"Koi-lo" |
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07 Apr 2006 07:08:05 AM |
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How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong |
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours. However, in Genesis 1:5 God himself is said to divide day into a
smaller period of time, calling just the light portion "day." In
Genesis 2:4 all the creative periods are called one "day": "This
is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being
created, in the day [all six creative periods] that Jehovah God made
earth and heaven."
The Hebrew word yohm, translated "day," can mean different lengths
of time. Among the meanings possible, William Wilson's Old Testament
Word Studies includes the following: "A day; it is frequently put for
time in general, or for a long time; a whole period under consideration
.. . . Day is also put for a particular season or time when any
extraordinary event happens." This last sentence appears to fit the
creative "days," for certainly they were periods when extraordinary
events were described as happening. It also allows for periods much
longer than 24 hours.
Genesis chapter 1 uses the expressions "evening" and "morning"
relative to the creative periods. Does this not indicate that they were
24 hours long? Not necessarily. In some places people often refer to a
man's lifetime as his "day." They speak of "my father's
day" or "in Shakespeare's day." They may divide up that
lifetime "day," saying "in the morning [or dawn] of his life"
or "in the evening [or twilight] of his life." So 'evening and
morning' in Genesis chapter 1 does not limit the meaning to a literal
24 hours.
"Day" as used in the Bible can include summer and winter, the
passing of seasons. (Zechariah 14:8) "The day of harvest" involves
many days. (Compare Proverbs 25:13 and Genesis 30:14.) A thousand years
are likened to a day. (Psalm 90:4; 2 Peter 3:8, 10) "Judgment
Day" covers many years. (Matthew 10:15; 11:22-24) It would seem
reasonable that the "days" of Genesis could likewise have embraced
long periods of time-millenniums. What, then, took place during those
creative eras? Is the Bible's account of them scientific? Following
is a review of these "days" as expressed in Genesis.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong |
07 Apr 2006 08:57:46 AM |
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"Koi-lo" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in news:1144411685.005658.281200
@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours.
do you take everything in the bible literal? Do you stone disobedient
children as dictated in the chapter after the 10 commandments? No? Then
don't say in one breath it is the word of God and is literal when you don't
actually believe it yourself.
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| User: "ReelMcKoi" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong |
07 Apr 2006 09:20:29 AM |
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R. Pierce Butler wrote:
"Koi-lo" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in news:1144411685.005658.281200
@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours.
do you take everything in the bible literal? Do you stone disobedient
children as dictated in the chapter after the 10 commandments? No? Then
don't say in one breath it is the word of God and is literal when you don't
actually believe it yourself.
Did you read the original post? all of it? or did you just stop after
the first two lines?
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong |
07 Apr 2006 05:04:46 PM |
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"ReelMcKoi" <ReelMckoi@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:1144419629.526623.186320@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
R. Pierce Butler wrote:
"Koi-lo" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:1144411685.005658.281200 @t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours.
do you take everything in the bible literal? Do you stone disobedient
children as dictated in the chapter after the 10 commandments? No?
Then don't say in one breath it is the word of God and is literal when
you don't actually believe it yourself.
Did you read the original post? all of it? or did you just stop after
the first two lines?
sure did.
A discussion about a "day" in the bible is a discussion about a literal
interprtation no matter how long the day is.
Read the bible. We need more atheists and nothing will get you there
quicker than reading the damn bible.
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong - TROLL ALERT |
07 Apr 2006 09:51:18 AM |
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"Koi-lo" IMPERSONATED by Jabriol <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1144411685.005658.281200@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours. However, in Genesis 1:5 God himself is said to divide day into a
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would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic cross-posted
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 11:04:15 AM |
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Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables, stories
invented by
storytellers.
E.g. read the book PRIMAL MYTHS by Barbara C. Sproul.
It contains over a hundred creation stories from all over the world.
Some of them are actually more believable than the Hebrew stories
you find in Genesis. -- L.
Koi-lo wrote:
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
hours. However, in Genesis 1:5 God himself is said to divide day into a
smaller period of time, calling just the light portion "day." In
Genesis 2:4 all the creative periods are called one "day": "This
is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being
created, in the day [all six creative periods] that Jehovah God made
earth and heaven."
The Hebrew word yohm, translated "day," can mean different lengths
of time. Among the meanings possible, William Wilson's Old Testament
Word Studies includes the following: "A day; it is frequently put for
time in general, or for a long time; a whole period under consideration
. . . Day is also put for a particular season or time when any
extraordinary event happens." This last sentence appears to fit the
creative "days," for certainly they were periods when extraordinary
events were described as happening. It also allows for periods much
longer than 24 hours.
Genesis chapter 1 uses the expressions "evening" and "morning"
relative to the creative periods. Does this not indicate that they were
24 hours long? Not necessarily. In some places people often refer to a
man's lifetime as his "day." They speak of "my father's
day" or "in Shakespeare's day." They may divide up that
lifetime "day," saying "in the morning [or dawn] of his life"
or "in the evening [or twilight] of his life." So 'evening and
morning' in Genesis chapter 1 does not limit the meaning to a literal
24 hours.
"Day" as used in the Bible can include summer and winter, the
passing of seasons. (Zechariah 14:8) "The day of harvest" involves
many days. (Compare Proverbs 25:13 and Genesis 30:14.) A thousand years
are likened to a day. (Psalm 90:4; 2 Peter 3:8, 10) "Judgment
Day" covers many years. (Matthew 10:15; 11:22-24) It would seem
reasonable that the "days" of Genesis could likewise have embraced
long periods of time-millenniums. What, then, took place during those
creative eras? Is the Bible's account of them scientific? Following
is a review of these "days" as expressed in Genesis.
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| User: "KoiKrusher" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 11:46:01 AM |
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Another carolyn gulley sock puppet...
did you buy the farm?
R=F4ze N. Kr=E2nz wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:44368D7F.9A8E5C6B@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a
little
science but.........
~~~~~
Please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, =
we
would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic cross-posted
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "SlammerPendragon" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 11:34:07 AM |
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Hey looky and another Carol sock puppet.
R=F4ze N. Kr=E2nz wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:44368D7F.9A8E5C6B@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a
little
science but.........
~~~~~
Please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, =
we
would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic cross-posted
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 12:56:50 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables, stories
invented by storytellers.
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS & cross-posting TROLLS |
07 Apr 2006 01:08:30 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2t9d325fpq2himcqla7tcjusbcrd0itm27@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
==================
Please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, we
would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the "rec.ponds"
NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic cross-posted thread. Our
fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 01:14:17 PM |
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In article <2t9d325fpq2himcqla7tcjusbcrd0itm27@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables, stories
invented by storytellers.
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Does anyone know if there is a precise term for the pathological
inability to feel embarrassment?
-- cary
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| User: "Del Viking" |
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07 Apr 2006 02:55:31 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e16a5p$919$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <2t9d325fpq2himcqla7tcjusbcrd0itm27@4ax.com> duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a
little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more
true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables,
stories
invented by storytellers.
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it
totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Does anyone know if there is a precise term for the pathological
inability to feel embarrassment?
-- cary
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Sociopathology?
Before you reply to this thread agaib, do you keep fish and a ponds? If so,
we would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted thread. Fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Thank You
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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07 Apr 2006 03:11:48 PM |
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In article <xpzZf.2854$Za3.1655@bignews7.bellsouth.net> "Del Viking" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e16a5p$919$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <2t9d325fpq2himcqla7tcjusbcrd0itm27@4ax.com> duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a
little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more
true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables,
stories
invented by storytellers.
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it
totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Does anyone know if there is a precise term for the pathological
inability to feel embarrassment?
-- cary
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Sociopathology?
Before you reply to this thread agaib, do you keep fish and a ponds? If so,
we would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted thread. Fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Thank You
Okay, done (which means, of course, that you won't see me agreeing...)
By the way, atheists assembled, how do so many of these threads
end up contaminating `rec.ponds'? Is this the work of ...
um, whossname?
-- cary
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| User: "BullDozer" |
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07 Apr 2006 01:45:18 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Does anyone know if there is a precise term for the pathological
inability to feel embarrassment?
-- cary
It is called the AdamoGulley flat brain syndrome
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| User: "duke" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:12:30 PM |
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
You didn't know this?
Does anyone know if there is a precise term for the pathological
inability to feel embarrassment?
You're it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:14:35 PM |
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In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
-- cary
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| User: "Joe Blow" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:44:49 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
And he called it a day rather than something more general??
--
Joe
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| User: "George Wright" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:59:30 PM |
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I'm playing catch-up after being sick for a while, but (trimmed to a.a)....
"Cary Kittrell" <> wrote in message
news:e16knr$gt0$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it
totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
[...]
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
I don't know what the claim is, but am I the only one here who remember John
Boatwright and his "God-day"? How come nobody has put that one back on the
table :-)?
Geo
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| User: "duke" |
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08 Apr 2006 08:39:31 AM |
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I don't know what the claim is, but am I the only one here who remember John
Boatwright and his "God-day"? How come nobody has put that one back on the
table :-)?
Geo
You're right - you don't. I wrote you a post with my "Evidences", and you can't
even find it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "George Wright" |
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08 Apr 2006 09:15:57 AM |
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duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:67ff325pqag0rct0h293945dfbq7phcii4@4ax.com...
I don't know what the claim is, but am I the only one here who remember
John
Boatwright and his "God-day"? How come nobody has put that one back on
the
table :-)?
Geo
You're right - you don't. I wrote you a post with my "Evidences", and you
can't
even find it.
That's right, I absolutely can't. I use MS Outlook Express as a client and
comcast.net as a server, and I flat can't find it. Any pointers, hints,
directions, helps, raps with the clue-stick, etc., would be appreciated.
Geo
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| User: "duke" |
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08 Apr 2006 08:36:16 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
I have no idea of the basis for the length of a day as mentioned. I suspect the
earth is the basis for the 7 days of creation, because it was revealed to us in
those terms.
I also have no basis for a man living 900+ years in terms of earth years. We
know that the biblical people used numbers in a manner other than their relative
value as we know them. For instance, 144,000 to be saved is not an absolute
value, but a number used by the early peoples to indicate a "big number".
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mr. Boddabinga" |
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08 Apr 2006 01:50:50 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5qef32psgr86a99n32aci8uhammj1sh13c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
What's this got to do with recreational ponds? Please be considerate and
check your newsgroups line before sending replies to someone.
Thanks
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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10 Apr 2006 02:50:08 PM |
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In article <5qef32psgr86a99n32aci8uhammj1sh13c@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
I have no idea of the basis for the length of a day as mentioned. I suspect the
earth is the basis for the 7 days of creation, because it was revealed to us in
those terms.
Then why in the world are you trying to deflect the original question with:
When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
-- cary
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
08 Apr 2006 02:56:49 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
In article <7bld329grs2q9lg9hcf17usgd4huurdn5o@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
I see... so somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Nobody knows which one is the real one. There are billions and billions of
planets out there with days other than 24 hours.
So somewhere in the vasty deep of space there is a planet
whose period of revolution is N seconds, and it was that particular period
of time God had in mind when He described, to Earthlings, the creation
having taken place over a period of seven days?
Is that your claim?
I have no idea of the basis for the length of a day as mentioned. I suspect the
earth is the basis for the 7 days of creation, because it was revealed to us in
those terms.
===>It was not "revealed".
It is the way it is.
Just something observed by the author of the creation fable, who also
observed the "two big lights" and the "little lights" up there, obviously
knowing nothing about what they were, so he wrote that the ELOHIM
affixed them to the solid vaulted dome of the sky. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
08 Apr 2006 10:24:49 AM |
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duke wrote:
[SNIPALOT]
I also have no basis for a man living 900+ years in terms of earth years. We
know that the biblical people used numbers in a manner other than their relative
value as we know them. For instance, 144,000 to be saved is not an absolute
value, but a number used by the early peoples to indicate a "big number".
===>And your evidence for that is WHERE?
WHO ELSE, WHERE ELSE was that number used in that sense? -- L.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
08 Apr 2006 02:50:33 PM |
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Libertarius wrote:
duke wrote:
[SNIPALOT]
I also have no basis for a man living 900+ years in terms of earth years. We
know that the biblical people used numbers in a manner other than their relative
value as we know them. For instance, 144,000 to be saved is not an absolute
value, but a number used by the early peoples to indicate a "big number".
===>And your evidence for that is WHERE?
WHO ELSE, WHERE ELSE was that number used in that sense? -- L.
Evidently, the Bible folks were good at exaggerating. "The fish I
caught was bigger than my house!" ;-)
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 02:31:04 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:04:15 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Good try, showing the cognitive dissonance biblicists get by learning a little
science but
wishing to keep believing the biblical fairy tales.
This "explanation" has been passed around for over a hundred years.
Playing with the word "yom" will not make the creation fables any more true than
if you just left it to mean "24 hours".
Accept the truth: creation is a myth, creation stories are fables, stories
invented by storytellers.
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
===>Poor, confused duckie.
You are suffering from a sever case of cognitive dissonance.
Get some help. -- L.
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| User: "Del Viking" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS & Cross Posting TROLLS |
07 Apr 2006 02:56:50 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4436BDF8.98757A19@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
duke wrote:
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Before you reply to this thread again, do you keep fish and a ponds? If so,
we would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted thread. Our fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Thank You
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? CREATION MYTHS |
07 Apr 2006 04:13:05 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:31:04 -0600, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Nope, not a chance. When God created the universe, he created it totally, and a
day is not 24 hours long throughout the universe.
===>Poor, confused duckie.
You are suffering from a sever case of cognitive dissonance.
Get some help. -- L.
And act like you?? No way.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: How long is a Day? there is where Creationists go wrong |
07 Apr 2006 08:35:08 AM |
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On 7 Apr 2006 05:08:05 -0700, "Koi-lo" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1144411685.005658.281200@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
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***** me, jabbers. You change socks more often than a preist thinks
about boys.
Another one for the kill-file...
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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07 Apr 2006 11:45:43 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:ghqc32pf8u2jdrv9fjb5v8pk5l173fmjrs@4ax.com...
On 7 Apr 2006 05:08:05 -0700, "Koi-lo" IMPERSONATED by nym-stealing
JABRIOL passing as a woman. <geister@mailinator.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1144411685.005658.281200@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24
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***** me, jabbers. You change socks more often than a preist thinks
about boys.
Another one for the kill-file...
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You can't killfile him because he changes his NYM many times a day now since
Google allows such abuse. He also steals the NYMs of legitimate posters
(usually women) to bypass killfiles and cause confusion. I think the best
way to handle him is simply not reply to any of his off-topic cross-posted
messages. Or remove all the cross-posted off-topic NGs.
If it's @mailinator or @gmail and posted through Google - it's Jabriol from
ARJ-W. What he's doing is called WTS "Theocratic Warfare Strategy" which
allows all forms of dishonesty and lying.
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DeProgrammer # 664
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw73.html
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
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