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Date: 29 May 2006 09:05:41 PM
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The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'
Chron Watch ^ | Macch 5 2002 | Linda Kimball
Posted on 03/05/2006 1:16:28 PM PST by little jeremiah
The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'
Sunday, March 05, 2006
America is undergoing an extreme makeover and the wrecking crews are
Leftists. They believe that everything about our civilization is an
illusion-including our created condition as either man or woman. In
other words, because they do not believe that God exists or the Bible
is true, our civilization and condition are merely social constructs.
To the wreckers we are but plastic figures that can be melted down and
remolded. The wrecking crews conceal their insane ambitions behind
deceptive code words such as diversity, multiculturalism, sensitivity,
sexual orientation, safe schools, choice, and sex education.
America's Left is comprised of two sorts of people: those willing to
engage in evil and those who are willing to aid and abet it. In the
words of David Horowitz: "Socialist economics, critical theory, and
progressive loyalties have produced the worst atrocities, the most
horrific suffering, the most crushing oppression, and the greatest
misery in all human history. But not for a moment...since the fall of
the Berlin Wall, has the Left begun to face its failure, or confront
its deeds. It has simply moved to another trench in its permanent war
against the West...it has degenerated from a Stalinist universalism to
a neo-fascist tribalism, which is what multiculturalism is really
about." (Mussolini and Neo-Fascist Tribalism: Up From
Multiculturalism Jan. 1998).
Identity politics is the ***** child of multiculturalism. In short,
it's the process by which politically empowered 'tribes' are
created. Its working principal can be boiled down to "God is dead
therefore we are at liberty to self-actualize as we please."
'Tribes,' be they witches, vampires, goddesses, Islamic radicals,
illegal aliens, or the 'sexually oriented' variety, are not just
autonomous but off-limits to outside criticism. Each 'tribe'
establishes a 'cultural narrative' and then defines the 'rules of
authenticity." This is multiculturalism in a nutshell. Multicultural
tribes are politically sacrosanct. They are weapons of mass destruction
being wielded by the Left in its war against our traditional culture
and infrastructure.
When we consider the Left's great heroes are murderous barbarians
such as Pol Pot, Kim Jung II, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Stalin, and Sadam
Hussein it comes as no surprise that the foul pervert and
murderer-the Marquis de Sade-is likewise one of the Left's heroic
icons. Sade, role model for the 'sexual orientation' tribes, is
celebrated by the Left as a "heroic apostle of individual rights, a
giant of philosophical thought, and a martyr for freedom of
conscience." (Sade, a Biographical Essay, by Lawrence Bongie, 2000)
In a 1951 essay, "Must We Burn Sade," Simone de Beauvoir (heroine
of the man-hating lesbian feminists) identifies Sade as a forerunner of
Freud with an intuitive grasp of the nature of the human heart.
Beauvoir, a sex-obsessed lesbian, wrote: "Not only does
Sade...anticipate...the 'pansexuality' of Freud, but he also makes
eroticism the mainspring of human behavior...He knew that the
'perversions' that are vulgarly regarded as moral monstrosities or
psychological defects actually envelop...intentionality. In a passage
in 'La Nouvelle Justine' he tries to explain coprophillia (sexual
excitement over feces)...he points out that the truth of a thing lies
not in what it is but in the meaning it has taken on for us in the
course of our individual experience. Intuitions such as these allow us
to hail Sade as a precursor of psychoanalysis"
(www.crimelibrary.com).
In the dialectical jargon of Stalinist 'identity politics,' Sade
was a man of diverse 'sexual orientations" (tribal identities)
which birthed his many 'alternative lifestyle choices' (authentic
cultural narratives).
Douglas Lynott not only provides us with an idea of Sade's sexual
orientations, but also, especially within the last half, the depths of
evil which motivate the Left: "Assisted by his wife, two other young
adult women...and his valet, Sade assembled his captives daily for a
m=E9lange of activities: masturbation, fellatio, sodomy (both
heterosexual and homosexual), sodomy chains, and...scourging. The very
acts that cause...people of reason and morals to recoil in terror
provided the Marquis with sensations of ecstasy: the physical and
emotional domination of another and the violent destruction of youthful
innocence. This ecstasy is portrayed by one of the protagonists of
"Philosophy in the Boudoir," who exclaims, "How delicious to
corrupt, to stifle all semblances of virtue and religion in that young
heart!" (ibid)
Sade revealed that inner 'promptings' are the source of his
'sexual orientations' when he wrote: "I wanted only to try to
live in accord with the promptings which came from my true self. Was
that so very difficult?" (ibid)
Another word for 'prompting' is 'impulse.' These can be of two
kinds-good or bad. As free moral agents, we always have the choice to
either act upon or to reject dark impulses. Sade obviously never
developed the self-discipline necessary to reject them. Thus, he first
became controlled by them, and then eventually was transformed by them
into a foul creature whose name became synonymous with sadomasochism,
which had thus become the source of his 'true self.'
The Left's operative scheme now comes into focus. First, they hold
out temptations to seduce the unwary into acting upon dark impulses
(self-actualization process). Then the actualized 'dark impulses'
are deceptively cast as 'sexual orientations." In this manner they
create 'sexually oriented' tribes which are then manipulated into
destroying America's culture while simultaneously allowing Leftists
to gain access to our most vulnerable: children and young adults.
As revealed by David Horowitz in "The Politics of Bad Faith"
(www.discoverthenetwork.org), Leftists plan to create a 'queer
utopia" populated by 'queer genderless beings': "Queer
revolution is thus the ultimate subversive project: It proclaims not
only the death of...God, but of Nature's Law...theirs is the ultimate
Nietzschean fantasy: a world in which humanity is God. The future will
give birth to a new revolutionary people, no longer male and female,
but queer. Queer is the Promethean category of the post-modernist
Left."
In a blatant endeavor to violate and destroy the innocence of youth and
simultaneously enslave them to dark impulses, consider the following
examples from our Leftist controlled academia:
Prof. Peter Singer of Princeton advocates bestiality: "Sex with
animals does not always include cruelty...not everyone objects to being
used by his or her dog..." Prof. Marjorie Garber of Harvard
encourages "not just love of dogs, but love with dogs as well."
Prof. Susan Scotto of Mount Holyoke teaches a 'stripping class"
Prof. Harris Mirkin of the U. of Missouri encourages pedophilia:
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality" U. of
Colorado Prof. Craig Palmer wrote the book, "A Natural History of
Rape" which states that rape confers a selective advantage on men.
(Source: 'Whistleblower": Brainwashing 101, vol. 14, no. 9)
Efforts at 'violently destroying the innocence of youth," this time
of teens, is evidenced by the following examples:
1=2E "Time Magazine: School Event Exposes Massive Cultural Campaign to
Promote Homosexuality to Kids" (Robert Knight and Benjamin Frichtl;
Concerned Women for America) "A cocktail party in Manhattan with
billionaire liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, Sr., and Clinton political
strategist David Mixner was held in May to raise money for the Point
Foundation, a scholarship program to turn 'gay' kids into
homosexual activists.
2=2E "Turning girls into boys" (Peter LaBarbera, WorldNetDaily.com,
Feb. 2002) "A female-to-male transgender conference attended...by
hundreds of young women including teenagers...was sponsored by the
Human Rights Campaign...world's leading homosexual
organization...included a panel on "How to Do SM (sadomasochism)...a
grotesque and disturbing pedophilic painting (was) prominently
displayed (of) a baby boy lying naked on his back being sodomized by
the nipple of a baby bottle."
3=2E "The Little Black Book-Queer in the 21st Century": this
sadomasochistic book was distributed to hundreds of teens at Brook
School, Brookline, MA, Apr. 30, 2005 at an event organized by the Gay
and Straight Education Network (GSLEN). Among other activities kids
were encouraged to explore was "pee play": urinating on each other.
This 'Marquis de Sade' style book can be viewed at:
www.article8.org.
Listed below are examples of the Lefts success in unleashing the
destructive forces of uninhibited sex while simultaneously transforming
our nation into Sades 'pleasure castle':
"Express route to controversy in Atlanta-pedophile musical
(Variety.com; Mark Blankenship, 12/19/05) "NYPD Black and Blue? NY
Police Recruit at Sadistic Sex Festival (Peter LaBarbera;
www.americansfortruth.com) "Sadistic sex practitioners
defend...whipping...beating...hand-anal fisting...burning their bodies
with hot wax...bondage...as 'consensual.' "Dance Sponsored by
'Gay' Millennium March Features Homosexual Orgy, Gruesome Sadism
(ibid) "witnesses saw a sadistic stage scene in which a man was
strapped to a large St. Andrews (x) cross-his head covered with a
black hood-while another man stuck needles into his chest." "US
teacher sexpidemic spreading across planet: Long list of American
rapists joined by female Australians" (Joe Kovacs, WorldNetDaily.com,
12/14/05)
Having successfully unleashed sexual anarchy upon America, Leftists now
seek to have anyone who objects declared mentally insane: "Calif.
Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added to
DSM" (Washington Post, Shankar Vedantam)
The two sorts of people...those willing to engage in evil and those
willing to aid and abet it.... purposely uncapped the bottle holding
the chaos-producing sex genie, arrogantly believing they could force it
to do their bidding. As a result, rampant sex crimes and the foul
stench of the Marquis de Sade's perversions waft freely throughout
our land, corrupting and befouling everything they touch.
The truths which the Left seek to obscure are twofold: We are meant for
higher things and noble causes. We are not meant to behave like dogs in
heat. We are men and women-not 'sexual orientations,'
'goddesses,' and 'vampires.' These things are the true
'social constructions'---birthed by dark impulses, brought to life
in the imagination---empowered and applauded by the infinity of
darkness. To embrace them is to embrace the self-loathing idea that we
are less than we are.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 31 May 2006 06:44:09 PM
Down with the left then. Down with the *****, the deomon-craps, the
lib and their like
down with them all.
Sound of Trumpet wrote:

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The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'


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Posted on 03/05/2006 1:16:28 PM PST by little jeremiah



The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'

Sunday, March 05, 2006



America is undergoing an extreme makeover and the wrecking crews are
Leftists. They believe that everything about our civilization is an
illusion-including our created condition as either man or woman. In
other words, because they do not believe that God exists or the Bible
is true, our civilization and condition are merely social constructs.
To the wreckers we are but plastic figures that can be melted down and
remolded. The wrecking crews conceal their insane ambitions behind
deceptive code words such as diversity, multiculturalism, sensitivity,
sexual orientation, safe schools, choice, and sex education.

America's Left is comprised of two sorts of people: those willing to
engage in evil and those who are willing to aid and abet it. In the
words of David Horowitz: "Socialist economics, critical theory, and
progressive loyalties have produced the worst atrocities, the most
horrific suffering, the most crushing oppression, and the greatest
misery in all human history. But not for a moment...since the fall of
the Berlin Wall, has the Left begun to face its failure, or confront
its deeds. It has simply moved to another trench in its permanent war
against the West...it has degenerated from a Stalinist universalism to
a neo-fascist tribalism, which is what multiculturalism is really
about." (Mussolini and Neo-Fascist Tribalism: Up From
Multiculturalism Jan. 1998).

Identity politics is the ***** child of multiculturalism. In short,
it's the process by which politically empowered 'tribes' are
created. Its working principal can be boiled down to "God is dead
therefore we are at liberty to self-actualize as we please."
'Tribes,' be they witches, vampires, goddesses, Islamic radicals,
illegal aliens, or the 'sexually oriented' variety, are not just
autonomous but off-limits to outside criticism. Each 'tribe'
establishes a 'cultural narrative' and then defines the 'rules of
authenticity." This is multiculturalism in a nutshell. Multicultural
tribes are politically sacrosanct. They are weapons of mass destruction
being wielded by the Left in its war against our traditional culture
and infrastructure.

When we consider the Left's great heroes are murderous barbarians
such as Pol Pot, Kim Jung II, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Stalin, and Sadam
Hussein it comes as no surprise that the foul pervert and
murderer-the Marquis de Sade-is likewise one of the Left's heroic
icons. Sade, role model for the 'sexual orientation' tribes, is
celebrated by the Left as a "heroic apostle of individual rights, a
giant of philosophical thought, and a martyr for freedom of
conscience." (Sade, a Biographical Essay, by Lawrence Bongie, 2000)

In a 1951 essay, "Must We Burn Sade," Simone de Beauvoir (heroine
of the man-hating lesbian feminists) identifies Sade as a forerunner of
Freud with an intuitive grasp of the nature of the human heart.
Beauvoir, a sex-obsessed lesbian, wrote: "Not only does
Sade...anticipate...the 'pansexuality' of Freud, but he also makes
eroticism the mainspring of human behavior...He knew that the
'perversions' that are vulgarly regarded as moral monstrosities or
psychological defects actually envelop...intentionality. In a passage
in 'La Nouvelle Justine' he tries to explain coprophillia (sexual
excitement over feces)...he points out that the truth of a thing lies
not in what it is but in the meaning it has taken on for us in the
course of our individual experience. Intuitions such as these allow us
to hail Sade as a precursor of psychoanalysis"
(www.crimelibrary.com).

In the dialectical jargon of Stalinist 'identity politics,' Sade
was a man of diverse 'sexual orientations" (tribal identities)
which birthed his many 'alternative lifestyle choices' (authentic
cultural narratives).

Douglas Lynott not only provides us with an idea of Sade's sexual
orientations, but also, especially within the last half, the depths of
evil which motivate the Left: "Assisted by his wife, two other young
adult women...and his valet, Sade assembled his captives daily for a
m=E9lange of activities: masturbation, fellatio, sodomy (both
heterosexual and homosexual), sodomy chains, and...scourging. The very
acts that cause...people of reason and morals to recoil in terror
provided the Marquis with sensations of ecstasy: the physical and
emotional domination of another and the violent destruction of youthful
innocence. This ecstasy is portrayed by one of the protagonists of
"Philosophy in the Boudoir," who exclaims, "How delicious to
corrupt, to stifle all semblances of virtue and religion in that young
heart!" (ibid)

Sade revealed that inner 'promptings' are the source of his
'sexual orientations' when he wrote: "I wanted only to try to
live in accord with the promptings which came from my true self. Was
that so very difficult?" (ibid)

Another word for 'prompting' is 'impulse.' These can be of two
kinds-good or bad. As free moral agents, we always have the choice to
either act upon or to reject dark impulses. Sade obviously never
developed the self-discipline necessary to reject them. Thus, he first
became controlled by them, and then eventually was transformed by them
into a foul creature whose name became synonymous with sadomasochism,
which had thus become the source of his 'true self.'

The Left's operative scheme now comes into focus. First, they hold
out temptations to seduce the unwary into acting upon dark impulses
(self-actualization process). Then the actualized 'dark impulses'
are deceptively cast as 'sexual orientations." In this manner they
create 'sexually oriented' tribes which are then manipulated into
destroying America's culture while simultaneously allowing Leftists
to gain access to our most vulnerable: children and young adults.

As revealed by David Horowitz in "The Politics of Bad Faith"
(www.discoverthenetwork.org), Leftists plan to create a 'queer
utopia" populated by 'queer genderless beings': "Queer
revolution is thus the ultimate subversive project: It proclaims not
only the death of...God, but of Nature's Law...theirs is the ultimate
Nietzschean fantasy: a world in which humanity is God. The future will
give birth to a new revolutionary people, no longer male and female,
but queer. Queer is the Promethean category of the post-modernist
Left."

In a blatant endeavor to violate and destroy the innocence of youth and
simultaneously enslave them to dark impulses, consider the following
examples from our Leftist controlled academia:

Prof. Peter Singer of Princeton advocates bestiality: "Sex with
animals does not always include cruelty...not everyone objects to being
used by his or her dog..." Prof. Marjorie Garber of Harvard
encourages "not just love of dogs, but love with dogs as well."
Prof. Susan Scotto of Mount Holyoke teaches a 'stripping class"
Prof. Harris Mirkin of the U. of Missouri encourages pedophilia:
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality" U. of
Colorado Prof. Craig Palmer wrote the book, "A Natural History of
Rape" which states that rape confers a selective advantage on men.
(Source: 'Whistleblower": Brainwashing 101, vol. 14, no. 9)

Efforts at 'violently destroying the innocence of youth," this time
of teens, is evidenced by the following examples:

1. "Time Magazine: School Event Exposes Massive Cultural Campaign to
Promote Homosexuality to Kids" (Robert Knight and Benjamin Frichtl;
Concerned Women for America) "A cocktail party in Manhattan with
billionaire liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, Sr., and Clinton political
strategist David Mixner was held in May to raise money for the Point
Foundation, a scholarship program to turn 'gay' kids into
homosexual activists.

2. "Turning girls into boys" (Peter LaBarbera, WorldNetDaily.com,
Feb. 2002) "A female-to-male transgender conference attended...by
hundreds of young women including teenagers...was sponsored by the
Human Rights Campaign...world's leading homosexual
organization...included a panel on "How to Do SM (sadomasochism)...a
grotesque and disturbing pedophilic painting (was) prominently
displayed (of) a baby boy lying naked on his back being sodomized by
the nipple of a baby bottle."

3. "The Little Black Book-Queer in the 21st Century": this
sadomasochistic book was distributed to hundreds of teens at Brook
School, Brookline, MA, Apr. 30, 2005 at an event organized by the Gay
and Straight Education Network (GSLEN). Among other activities kids
were encouraged to explore was "pee play": urinating on each other.
This 'Marquis de Sade' style book can be viewed at:
www.article8.org.

Listed below are examples of the Lefts success in unleashing the
destructive forces of uninhibited sex while simultaneously transforming
our nation into Sades 'pleasure castle':

"Express route to controversy in Atlanta-pedophile musical
(Variety.com; Mark Blankenship, 12/19/05) "NYPD Black and Blue? NY
Police Recruit at Sadistic Sex Festival (Peter LaBarbera;
www.americansfortruth.com) "Sadistic sex practitioners
defend...whipping...beating...hand-anal fisting...burning their bodies
with hot wax...bondage...as 'consensual.' "Dance Sponsored by
'Gay' Millennium March Features Homosexual Orgy, Gruesome Sadism
(ibid) "witnesses saw a sadistic stage scene in which a man was
strapped to a large St. Andrews (x) cross-his head covered with a
black hood-while another man stuck needles into his chest." "US
teacher sexpidemic spreading across planet: Long list of American
rapists joined by female Australians" (Joe Kovacs, WorldNetDaily.com,
12/14/05)

Having successfully unleashed sexual anarchy upon America, Leftists now
seek to have anyone who objects declared mentally insane: "Calif.
Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added to
DSM" (Washington Post, Shankar Vedantam)

The two sorts of people...those willing to engage in evil and those
willing to aid and abet it.... purposely uncapped the bottle holding
the chaos-producing sex genie, arrogantly believing they could force it
to do their bidding. As a result, rampant sex crimes and the foul
stench of the Marquis de Sade's perversions waft freely throughout
our land, corrupting and befouling everything they touch.

The truths which the Left seek to obscure are twofold: We are meant for
higher things and noble causes. We are not meant to behave like dogs in
heat. We are men and women-not 'sexual orientations,'
'goddesses,' and 'vampires.' These things are the true
'social constructions'---birthed by dark impulses, brought to life
in the imagination---empowered and applauded by the infinity of
darkness. To embrace them is to embrace the self-loathing idea that we
are less than we are.

.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: How Hitler Became the Avatar of the Christian Right (Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left) 30 May 2006 01:00:29 AM
"Hitler's progrom, for all its distinctiveness, is the ZENITH of a
long Christian heritage of teaching and practice against Jews."
- Clark M. Williamson
professor of Theology,
Christian Theological Seminary, Indiana
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2463 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 10:30:21 AM
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Posted on 03/05/2006 1:16:28 PM PST by little jeremiah
The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'
Sunday, March 05, 2006
America is undergoing an extreme makeover and the wrecking crews are
Leftists. They believe that everything about our civilization is an
illusion-including our created condition as either man or woman. In
other words, because they do not believe that God exists or the Bible
is true, our civilization and condition are merely social constructs.
To the wreckers we are but plastic figures that can be melted down and
remolded. The wrecking crews conceal their insane ambitions behind
deceptive code words such as diversity, multiculturalism, sensitivity,
sexual orientation, safe schools, choice, and sex education.
America's Left is comprised of two sorts of people: those willing to
engage in evil and those who are willing to aid and abet it. In the
words of David Horowitz: "Socialist economics, critical theory, and
progressive loyalties have produced the worst atrocities, the most
horrific suffering, the most crushing oppression, and the greatest
misery in all human history. But not for a moment...since the fall of
the Berlin Wall, has the Left begun to face its failure, or confront
its deeds. It has simply moved to another trench in its permanent war
against the West...it has degenerated from a Stalinist universalism to
a neo-fascist tribalism, which is what multiculturalism is really
about." (Mussolini and Neo-Fascist Tribalism: Up From
Multiculturalism Jan. 1998).
Identity politics is the ***** child of multiculturalism. In short,
it's the process by which politically empowered 'tribes' are
created. Its working principal can be boiled down to "God is dead
therefore we are at liberty to self-actualize as we please."
'Tribes,' be they witches, vampires, goddesses, Islamic radicals,
illegal aliens, or the 'sexually oriented' variety, are not just
autonomous but off-limits to outside criticism. Each 'tribe'
establishes a 'cultural narrative' and then defines the 'rules of
authenticity." This is multiculturalism in a nutshell. Multicultural
tribes are politically sacrosanct. They are weapons of mass destruction
being wielded by the Left in its war against our traditional culture
and infrastructure.
When we consider the Left's great heroes are murderous barbarians
such as Pol Pot, Kim Jung II, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Stalin, and Sadam
Hussein it comes as no surprise that the foul pervert and
murderer-the Marquis de Sade-is likewise one of the Left's heroic
icons. Sade, role model for the 'sexual orientation' tribes, is
celebrated by the Left as a "heroic apostle of individual rights, a
giant of philosophical thought, and a martyr for freedom of
conscience." (Sade, a Biographical Essay, by Lawrence Bongie, 2000)
In a 1951 essay, "Must We Burn Sade," Simone de Beauvoir (heroine
of the man-hating lesbian feminists) identifies Sade as a forerunner of
Freud with an intuitive grasp of the nature of the human heart.
Beauvoir, a sex-obsessed lesbian, wrote: "Not only does
Sade...anticipate...the 'pansexuality' of Freud, but he also makes
eroticism the mainspring of human behavior...He knew that the
'perversions' that are vulgarly regarded as moral monstrosities or
psychological defects actually envelop...intentionality. In a passage
in 'La Nouvelle Justine' he tries to explain coprophillia (sexual
excitement over feces)...he points out that the truth of a thing lies
not in what it is but in the meaning it has taken on for us in the
course of our individual experience. Intuitions such as these allow us
to hail Sade as a precursor of psychoanalysis"
(www.crimelibrary.com).
In the dialectical jargon of Stalinist 'identity politics,' Sade
was a man of diverse 'sexual orientations" (tribal identities)
which birthed his many 'alternative lifestyle choices' (authentic
cultural narratives).
Douglas Lynott not only provides us with an idea of Sade's sexual
orientations, but also, especially within the last half, the depths of
evil which motivate the Left: "Assisted by his wife, two other young
adult women...and his valet, Sade assembled his captives daily for a
mélange of activities: masturbation, fellatio, sodomy (both
heterosexual and homosexual), sodomy chains, and...scourging. The very
acts that cause...people of reason and morals to recoil in terror
provided the Marquis with sensations of ecstasy: the physical and
emotional domination of another and the violent destruction of youthful
innocence. This ecstasy is portrayed by one of the protagonists of
"Philosophy in the Boudoir," who exclaims, "How delicious to
corrupt, to stifle all semblances of virtue and religion in that young
heart!" (ibid)
Sade revealed that inner 'promptings' are the source of his
'sexual orientations' when he wrote: "I wanted only to try to
live in accord with the promptings which came from my true self. Was
that so very difficult?" (ibid)
Another word for 'prompting' is 'impulse.' These can be of two
kinds-good or bad. As free moral agents, we always have the choice to
either act upon or to reject dark impulses. Sade obviously never
developed the self-discipline necessary to reject them. Thus, he first
became controlled by them, and then eventually was transformed by them
into a foul creature whose name became synonymous with sadomasochism,
which had thus become the source of his 'true self.'
The Left's operative scheme now comes into focus. First, they hold
out temptations to seduce the unwary into acting upon dark impulses
(self-actualization process). Then the actualized 'dark impulses'
are deceptively cast as 'sexual orientations." In this manner they
create 'sexually oriented' tribes which are then manipulated into
destroying America's culture while simultaneously allowing Leftists
to gain access to our most vulnerable: children and young adults.
As revealed by David Horowitz in "The Politics of Bad Faith"
(www.discoverthenetwork.org), Leftists plan to create a 'queer
utopia" populated by 'queer genderless beings': "Queer
revolution is thus the ultimate subversive project: It proclaims not
only the death of...God, but of Nature's Law...theirs is the ultimate
Nietzschean fantasy: a world in which humanity is God. The future will
give birth to a new revolutionary people, no longer male and female,
but queer. Queer is the Promethean category of the post-modernist
Left."
In a blatant endeavor to violate and destroy the innocence of youth and
simultaneously enslave them to dark impulses, consider the following
examples from our Leftist controlled academia:
Prof. Peter Singer of Princeton advocates bestiality: "Sex with
animals does not always include cruelty...not everyone objects to being
used by his or her dog..." Prof. Marjorie Garber of Harvard
encourages "not just love of dogs, but love with dogs as well."
Prof. Susan Scotto of Mount Holyoke teaches a 'stripping class"
Prof. Harris Mirkin of the U. of Missouri encourages pedophilia:
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality" U. of
Colorado Prof. Craig Palmer wrote the book, "A Natural History of
Rape" which states that rape confers a selective advantage on men.
(Source: 'Whistleblower": Brainwashing 101, vol. 14, no. 9)
Efforts at 'violently destroying the innocence of youth," this time
of teens, is evidenced by the following examples:
1. "Time Magazine: School Event Exposes Massive Cultural Campaign to
Promote Homosexuality to Kids" (Robert Knight and Benjamin Frichtl;
Concerned Women for America) "A cocktail party in Manhattan with
billionaire liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, Sr., and Clinton political
strategist David Mixner was held in May to raise money for the Point
Foundation, a scholarship program to turn 'gay' kids into
homosexual activists.
2. "Turning girls into boys" (Peter LaBarbera, WorldNetDaily.com,
Feb. 2002) "A female-to-male transgender conference attended...by
hundreds of young women including teenagers...was sponsored by the
Human Rights Campaign...world's leading homosexual
organization...included a panel on "How to Do SM (sadomasochism)...a
grotesque and disturbing pedophilic painting (was) prominently
displayed (of) a baby boy lying naked on his back being sodomized by
the nipple of a baby bottle."
3. "The Little Black Book-Queer in the 21st Century": this
sadomasochistic book was distributed to hundreds of teens at Brook
School, Brookline, MA, Apr. 30, 2005 at an event organized by the Gay
and Straight Education Network (GSLEN). Among other activities kids
were encouraged to explore was "pee play": urinating on each other.
This 'Marquis de Sade' style book can be viewed at:
www.article8.org.
Listed below are examples of the Lefts success in unleashing the
destructive forces of uninhibited sex while simultaneously transforming
our nation into Sades 'pleasure castle':
"Express route to controversy in Atlanta-pedophile musical
(Variety.com; Mark Blankenship, 12/19/05) "NYPD Black and Blue? NY
Police Recruit at Sadistic Sex Festival (Peter LaBarbera;
www.americansfortruth.com) "Sadistic sex practitioners
defend...whipping...beating...hand-anal fisting...burning their bodies
with hot wax...bondage...as 'consensual.' "Dance Sponsored by
'Gay' Millennium March Features Homosexual Orgy, Gruesome Sadism
(ibid) "witnesses saw a sadistic stage scene in which a man was
strapped to a large St. Andrews (x) cross-his head covered with a
black hood-while another man stuck needles into his chest." "US
teacher sexpidemic spreading across planet: Long list of American
rapists joined by female Australians" (Joe Kovacs, WorldNetDaily.com,
12/14/05)
Having successfully unleashed sexual anarchy upon America, Leftists now
seek to have anyone who objects declared mentally insane: "Calif.
Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added to
DSM" (Washington Post, Shankar Vedantam)
The two sorts of people...those willing to engage in evil and those
willing to aid and abet it.... purposely uncapped the bottle holding
the chaos-producing sex genie, arrogantly believing they could force it
to do their bidding. As a result, rampant sex crimes and the foul
stench of the Marquis de Sade's perversions waft freely throughout
our land, corrupting and befouling everything they touch.
The truths which the Left seek to obscure are twofold: We are meant for
higher things and noble causes. We are not meant to behave like dogs in
heat. We are men and women-not 'sexual orientations,'
'goddesses,' and 'vampires.' These things are the true
'social constructions'---birthed by dark impulses, brought to life
in the imagination---empowered and applauded by the infinity of
darkness. To embrace them is to embrace the self-loathing idea that we
are less than we are.
.

User: "cbruce"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 29 May 2006 11:07:57 PM
Halleluiah! Let's get rid of those code words. They, and all they mean
and stand for are bringing our society to the brink of ruin!
First things first. Diversity. let's see. Mono-versity, no.
One-versity, no. Hha!--- University. (think i've seen that one
somewhere.)
Multiculturalism. Simple--- Monoculturalism. Now that sounds like an
interesting way to live.
Sensitivity. Too simple---- Insensitivity. Oh yeh, I'd definitely want
to live there.
Sexual orientation.--------- Somebody has to choose, do we all act like
boys, or girls, all the time?
Safe schools. Easy------- Dangerous schools. Well at least it won't be
boring.
Choice. How about------- Slavery
Sex education. mmm--- What's sex?
All done. My, what an interesting place to live. Ahhhh paradise, just
as God intended.
Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590526/posts



The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'


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Posted on 03/05/2006 1:16:28 PM PST by little jeremiah



The Marquis de Sade: The Left's Man of Diverse 'Sexual
Orientations'

Sunday, March 05, 2006



America is undergoing an extreme makeover and the wrecking crews are
Leftists. They believe that everything about our civilization is an
illusion-including our created condition as either man or woman. In
other words, because they do not believe that God exists or the Bible
is true, our civilization and condition are merely social constructs.
To the wreckers we are but plastic figures that can be melted down and
remolded. The wrecking crews conceal their insane ambitions behind
deceptive code words such as diversity, multiculturalism, sensitivity,
sexual orientation, safe schools, choice, and sex education.

America's Left is comprised of two sorts of people: those willing to
engage in evil and those who are willing to aid and abet it. In the
words of David Horowitz: "Socialist economics, critical theory, and
progressive loyalties have produced the worst atrocities, the most
horrific suffering, the most crushing oppression, and the greatest
misery in all human history. But not for a moment...since the fall of
the Berlin Wall, has the Left begun to face its failure, or confront
its deeds. It has simply moved to another trench in its permanent war
against the West...it has degenerated from a Stalinist universalism to
a neo-fascist tribalism, which is what multiculturalism is really
about." (Mussolini and Neo-Fascist Tribalism: Up From
Multiculturalism Jan. 1998).

Identity politics is the ***** child of multiculturalism. In short,
it's the process by which politically empowered 'tribes' are
created. Its working principal can be boiled down to "God is dead
therefore we are at liberty to self-actualize as we please."
'Tribes,' be they witches, vampires, goddesses, Islamic radicals,
illegal aliens, or the 'sexually oriented' variety, are not just
autonomous but off-limits to outside criticism. Each 'tribe'
establishes a 'cultural narrative' and then defines the 'rules of
authenticity." This is multiculturalism in a nutshell. Multicultural
tribes are politically sacrosanct. They are weapons of mass destruction
being wielded by the Left in its war against our traditional culture
and infrastructure.

When we consider the Left's great heroes are murderous barbarians
such as Pol Pot, Kim Jung II, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Stalin, and Sadam
Hussein it comes as no surprise that the foul pervert and
murderer-the Marquis de Sade-is likewise one of the Left's heroic
icons. Sade, role model for the 'sexual orientation' tribes, is
celebrated by the Left as a "heroic apostle of individual rights, a
giant of philosophical thought, and a martyr for freedom of
conscience." (Sade, a Biographical Essay, by Lawrence Bongie, 2000)

In a 1951 essay, "Must We Burn Sade," Simone de Beauvoir (heroine
of the man-hating lesbian feminists) identifies Sade as a forerunner of
Freud with an intuitive grasp of the nature of the human heart.
Beauvoir, a sex-obsessed lesbian, wrote: "Not only does
Sade...anticipate...the 'pansexuality' of Freud, but he also makes
eroticism the mainspring of human behavior...He knew that the
'perversions' that are vulgarly regarded as moral monstrosities or
psychological defects actually envelop...intentionality. In a passage
in 'La Nouvelle Justine' he tries to explain coprophillia (sexual
excitement over feces)...he points out that the truth of a thing lies
not in what it is but in the meaning it has taken on for us in the
course of our individual experience. Intuitions such as these allow us
to hail Sade as a precursor of psychoanalysis"
(www.crimelibrary.com).

In the dialectical jargon of Stalinist 'identity politics,' Sade
was a man of diverse 'sexual orientations" (tribal identities)
which birthed his many 'alternative lifestyle choices' (authentic
cultural narratives).

Douglas Lynott not only provides us with an idea of Sade's sexual
orientations, but also, especially within the last half, the depths of
evil which motivate the Left: "Assisted by his wife, two other young
adult women...and his valet, Sade assembled his captives daily for a
m=E9lange of activities: masturbation, fellatio, sodomy (both
heterosexual and homosexual), sodomy chains, and...scourging. The very
acts that cause...people of reason and morals to recoil in terror
provided the Marquis with sensations of ecstasy: the physical and
emotional domination of another and the violent destruction of youthful
innocence. This ecstasy is portrayed by one of the protagonists of
"Philosophy in the Boudoir," who exclaims, "How delicious to
corrupt, to stifle all semblances of virtue and religion in that young
heart!" (ibid)

Sade revealed that inner 'promptings' are the source of his
'sexual orientations' when he wrote: "I wanted only to try to
live in accord with the promptings which came from my true self. Was
that so very difficult?" (ibid)

Another word for 'prompting' is 'impulse.' These can be of two
kinds-good or bad. As free moral agents, we always have the choice to
either act upon or to reject dark impulses. Sade obviously never
developed the self-discipline necessary to reject them. Thus, he first
became controlled by them, and then eventually was transformed by them
into a foul creature whose name became synonymous with sadomasochism,
which had thus become the source of his 'true self.'

The Left's operative scheme now comes into focus. First, they hold
out temptations to seduce the unwary into acting upon dark impulses
(self-actualization process). Then the actualized 'dark impulses'
are deceptively cast as 'sexual orientations." In this manner they
create 'sexually oriented' tribes which are then manipulated into
destroying America's culture while simultaneously allowing Leftists
to gain access to our most vulnerable: children and young adults.

As revealed by David Horowitz in "The Politics of Bad Faith"
(www.discoverthenetwork.org), Leftists plan to create a 'queer
utopia" populated by 'queer genderless beings': "Queer
revolution is thus the ultimate subversive project: It proclaims not
only the death of...God, but of Nature's Law...theirs is the ultimate
Nietzschean fantasy: a world in which humanity is God. The future will
give birth to a new revolutionary people, no longer male and female,
but queer. Queer is the Promethean category of the post-modernist
Left."

In a blatant endeavor to violate and destroy the innocence of youth and
simultaneously enslave them to dark impulses, consider the following
examples from our Leftist controlled academia:

Prof. Peter Singer of Princeton advocates bestiality: "Sex with
animals does not always include cruelty...not everyone objects to being
used by his or her dog..." Prof. Marjorie Garber of Harvard
encourages "not just love of dogs, but love with dogs as well."
Prof. Susan Scotto of Mount Holyoke teaches a 'stripping class"
Prof. Harris Mirkin of the U. of Missouri encourages pedophilia:
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality" U. of
Colorado Prof. Craig Palmer wrote the book, "A Natural History of
Rape" which states that rape confers a selective advantage on men.
(Source: 'Whistleblower": Brainwashing 101, vol. 14, no. 9)

Efforts at 'violently destroying the innocence of youth," this time
of teens, is evidenced by the following examples:

1. "Time Magazine: School Event Exposes Massive Cultural Campaign to
Promote Homosexuality to Kids" (Robert Knight and Benjamin Frichtl;
Concerned Women for America) "A cocktail party in Manhattan with
billionaire liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, Sr., and Clinton political
strategist David Mixner was held in May to raise money for the Point
Foundation, a scholarship program to turn 'gay' kids into
homosexual activists.

2. "Turning girls into boys" (Peter LaBarbera, WorldNetDaily.com,
Feb. 2002) "A female-to-male transgender conference attended...by
hundreds of young women including teenagers...was sponsored by the
Human Rights Campaign...world's leading homosexual
organization...included a panel on "How to Do SM (sadomasochism)...a
grotesque and disturbing pedophilic painting (was) prominently
displayed (of) a baby boy lying naked on his back being sodomized by
the nipple of a baby bottle."

3. "The Little Black Book-Queer in the 21st Century": this
sadomasochistic book was distributed to hundreds of teens at Brook
School, Brookline, MA, Apr. 30, 2005 at an event organized by the Gay
and Straight Education Network (GSLEN). Among other activities kids
were encouraged to explore was "pee play": urinating on each other.
This 'Marquis de Sade' style book can be viewed at:
www.article8.org.

Listed below are examples of the Lefts success in unleashing the
destructive forces of uninhibited sex while simultaneously transforming
our nation into Sades 'pleasure castle':

"Express route to controversy in Atlanta-pedophile musical
(Variety.com; Mark Blankenship, 12/19/05) "NYPD Black and Blue? NY
Police Recruit at Sadistic Sex Festival (Peter LaBarbera;
www.americansfortruth.com) "Sadistic sex practitioners
defend...whipping...beating...hand-anal fisting...burning their bodies
with hot wax...bondage...as 'consensual.' "Dance Sponsored by
'Gay' Millennium March Features Homosexual Orgy, Gruesome Sadism
(ibid) "witnesses saw a sadistic stage scene in which a man was
strapped to a large St. Andrews (x) cross-his head covered with a
black hood-while another man stuck needles into his chest." "US
teacher sexpidemic spreading across planet: Long list of American
rapists joined by female Australians" (Joe Kovacs, WorldNetDaily.com,
12/14/05)

Having successfully unleashed sexual anarchy upon America, Leftists now
seek to have anyone who objects declared mentally insane: "Calif.
Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added to
DSM" (Washington Post, Shankar Vedantam)

The two sorts of people...those willing to engage in evil and those
willing to aid and abet it.... purposely uncapped the bottle holding
the chaos-producing sex genie, arrogantly believing they could force it
to do their bidding. As a result, rampant sex crimes and the foul
stench of the Marquis de Sade's perversions waft freely throughout
our land, corrupting and befouling everything they touch.

The truths which the Left seek to obscure are twofold: We are meant for
higher things and noble causes. We are not meant to behave like dogs in
heat. We are men and women-not 'sexual orientations,'
'goddesses,' and 'vampires.' These things are the true
'social constructions'---birthed by dark impulses, brought to life
in the imagination---empowered and applauded by the infinity of
darkness. To embrace them is to embrace the self-loathing idea that we
are less than we are.

.
User: "James A. Donald"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 01:04:05 AM
"cbruce"

First things first. Diversity. let's see.
Mono-versity, no. One-versity, no. Hha!--- University.
(think i've seen that one somewhere.)

No, "diversity" means people of many colors and
ethnicities, speaking with one voice, their master's
voice.

Multiculturalism. Simple--- Monoculturalism. Now that
sounds like an interesting way to live.

"Multiculturalism" means that if people hack of their
women's clitoris that is just their way, and if some of
those women get threatened with murder for being to
uppity as Hirsi Ali was, well, those women are just
making trouble. Google for blogs commenting on Hirsi
Ali's flight to the US.

Sensitivity. Too simple---- Insensitivity. Oh yeh,
I'd definitely want to live there.

"Sensitivity" means silencing dissent and crushing
rebellion. Thus, for example, Hirsi Ali and Michelle
Malkin are famously insensitive, forcing the defenders
of sensitivity to make death threats, rape threats, and
obscene remarks about Michell Malkin's race, gender, and
primary sexual organs.
Similarly for all the other code words. They all stand
for hatred, violence and repression. They all stand
for things like the death threats directed at the likes
of Hirsi Ali and Michell Malkin.
--
----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
.
User: "Peter Bruells"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 01:12:18 AM
James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> writes:

"Multiculturalism" means that if people hack of their women's
clitoris that is just their way, and if some of those women get
threatened with murder for being to uppity as Hirsi Ali was, well,
those women are just making trouble. Google for blogs commenting on
Hirsi Ali's flight to the US.

Oh sure, the fact that she lied to get into the country and
ultimatively citizenship couldn't possible a reason.
Please don't forget: She didn't into trouble with liberals, but
immigration hardliners.
.
User: "James A. Donald"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 01:35:28 AM
James A. Donald

"Multiculturalism" means that if people hack of
their women's clitoris that is just their way, and
if some of those women get threatened with murder
for being to uppity as Hirsi Ali was, well, those
women are just making trouble. Google for blogs
commenting on Hirsi Ali's flight to the US.

Peter Bruells

Oh sure, the fact that she lied to get into the
country and ultimatively citizenship couldn't possible
a reason.

Hirsi Ali told the truth at her immigration hearing that
her clitoris had been cut off, that she was being forced
into an unwanted marriage, and her male relatives were
hunting her with the apparent intent of murdering her.
She lied about her father's name and her past travels,
fearing that she would be sent back to a "safe" country
that was not all safe for women fleeing forced marriage.

Please don't forget: She didn't into trouble with
liberals, but immigration hardliners.

As I say, google the blogs for hostile comments about
her troubles. Who are those comments coming from?
Apparently the sensitive and the multicultural only have
to be sensitive to women who do as they are told.
--
----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
.
User: "Peter Bruells"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 01:45:51 AM
James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> writes:

Peter Bruells

Oh sure, the fact that she lied to get into the
country and ultimatively citizenship couldn't possible
a reason.


Hirsi Ali told the truth at her immigration hearing that her
clitoris had been cut off, that she was being forced into an
unwanted marriage, and her male relatives were hunting her with the
apparent intent of murdering her. She lied about her father's name
and her past travels, fearing that she would be sent back to a
"safe" country that was not all safe for women fleeing forced
marriage.

Yes. And she broke the law. And frankly, while I understand why she
lied, I do not have to condone it.
About every regular magazine I read which wrote about Hirsi Ali and TV
show was not hostile about her critique. Some felt that she should be
pardoned, apparently because it is okay to break the law when it is
done by nice women who speak out against forced marriage and genital
mutilation.

Please don't forget: She didn't into trouble with liberals, but
immigration hardliners.


As I say, google the blogs for hostile comments about her troubles.
Who are those comments coming from? Apparently the sensitive and
the multicultural only have to be sensitive to women who do as they
are told.

I actually don't care much about blog - I'm already using Usenet,
which fulfills basically the same services, but in an easily
accessible manner, with about the same amount of nuts of the full
spectrum.
.
User: "James A. Donald"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 05:09:20 AM
James A. Donald

Hirsi Ali told the truth at her immigration hearing
that her clitoris had been cut off, that she was
being forced into an unwanted marriage, and her male
relatives were hunting her with the apparent intent
of murdering her. She lied about her father's name
and her past travels, fearing that she would be sent
back to a "safe" country that was not all safe for
women fleeing forced marriage.

Peter Bruells

Yes. And she broke the law.

So much the worse for the law.

About every regular magazine I read which wrote about
Hirsi Ali and TV show was not hostile about her
critique.

Well let us see what those sensitive multiculturalists
at Daily KOS have to say
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/16/163232/120
: : the poster girl for Islamophobes.
So it is islamophobia to object to having one's clitoris
cut off and being threatened with death for attempting
to exercise one's own choice in marriage.
Just google up
http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=Hirsi+Ali&as_sitesearch=www.dailykos.com
You will get storm of venomous hostility to her
critique.
And here is some more hatred and sputum
http://www.google.com./search?q=+%22Hirsi+Ali%22+islamophobia
Just google
--
----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
.


User: "David Johnston"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 30 May 2006 03:08:22 AM
On Tue, 30 May 2006 16:35:28 +1000, James A. Donald
<jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:

James A. Donald

"Multiculturalism" means that if people hack of
their women's clitoris that is just their way, and
if some of those women get threatened with murder
for being to uppity as Hirsi Ali was, well, those
women are just making trouble. Google for blogs
commenting on Hirsi Ali's flight to the US.


Peter Bruells

Oh sure, the fact that she lied to get into the
country and ultimatively citizenship couldn't possible
a reason.


Hirsi Ali told the truth at her immigration hearing that
her clitoris had been cut off, that she was being forced
into an unwanted marriage, and her male relatives were
hunting her with the apparent intent of murdering her.
She lied about her father's name and her past travels,
fearing that she would be sent back to a "safe" country
that was not all safe for women fleeing forced marriage.

Please don't forget: She didn't into trouble with
liberals, but immigration hardliners.


As I say, google the blogs for hostile comments about
her troubles. Who are those comments coming from?
Apparently the sensitive and the multicultural only have
to be sensitive to women who do as they are told.

Well when I actually looked, the hostile comments seemed to be coming
not from people concerned with cultural sensitivity as such, but
muslims pissed that she denounced their religion and showed bad stuff
associated with it and Netherlanders upset that she stirred their
waters. Then there was fellow who started talking about leading a
female camel into your tent to poop in it because he hates immigrants,
but I wasn't sure whether the female camel was a reference to her or
whether he was just ranting.
.





User: "Dan Clore"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 01 Jun 2006 03:14:41 AM
I have a used copy of _Juliette_, by the Marquis de Sade.
Handwritten inside the front cover is the following (verbatim):
6/13/83
Having seen today, on a Phil Donahue show, a discussion on
S&M that seemed to be saying there was no harm involved in
pleasure dependent upon the infliction of pain, I went to
Tower Books and bought this book. I sought to find the
origin of the above principal.
Having read only part of the book I feel compelled to note
even my initial reaction. It is sheer horror. I feel as tho
I have looked into the soul of evil. That a man, a human,
could express the epitimy of damnation expressed in these
pages is beyond belief.
I have seen the absolute corruption of a soul. And it
terrifies absolutely.
Evil permiates the world we live in. To concur it, to oppose
it, first we must be able to recognize it. Only then will we
have the power to overcome it and the knowledge of how to
use the only viable weapon . . . believe in God and the
all-powerful knowledge that, in life as in fantasy, good
really can concur evil.
*****
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
Lord We˙rdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
.
User: ""

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 01 Jun 2006 07:53:44 PM
Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.
Dan Clore wrote:

I have a used copy of _Juliette_, by the Marquis de Sade.
Handwritten inside the front cover is the following (verbatim):

6/13/83

Having seen today, on a Phil Donahue show, a discussion on
S&M that seemed to be saying there was no harm involved in
pleasure dependent upon the infliction of pain, I went to
Tower Books and bought this book. I sought to find the
origin of the above principal.

Having read only part of the book I feel compelled to note
even my initial reaction. It is sheer horror. I feel as tho
I have looked into the soul of evil. That a man, a human,
could express the epitimy of damnation expressed in these
pages is beyond belief.

I have seen the absolute corruption of a soul. And it
terrifies absolutely.

Evil permiates the world we live in. To concur it, to oppose
it, first we must be able to recognize it. Only then will we
have the power to overcome it and the knowledge of how to
use the only viable weapon . . . believe in God and the
all-powerful knowledge that, in life as in fantasy, good
really can concur evil.

*****

--
Dan Clore

My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=3Dnosim/thedanclorenecro
Lord We=FFrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"

.
User: ""

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 02 Jun 2006 12:20:52 AM
wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.

Dan Clore wrote:

I have a used copy of _Juliette_, by the Marquis de Sade.
Handwritten inside the front cover is the following (verbatim):

6/13/83

Having seen today, on a Phil Donahue show, a discussion on
S&M that seemed to be saying there was no harm involved in
pleasure dependent upon the infliction of pain, I went to
Tower Books and bought this book. I sought to find the
origin of the above principal.

Having read only part of the book I feel compelled to note
even my initial reaction. It is sheer horror. I feel as tho
I have looked into the soul of evil. That a man, a human,
could express the epitimy of damnation expressed in these
pages is beyond belief.

I have seen the absolute corruption of a soul. And it
terrifies absolutely.

Evil permiates the world we live in. To concur it, to oppose
it, first we must be able to recognize it. Only then will we
have the power to overcome it and the knowledge of how to
use the only viable weapon . . . believe in God and the
all-powerful knowledge that, in life as in fantasy, good
really can concur evil.

*****

--
Dan Clore

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Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"

Ah c'mon, its not like his sig plays Blue Oyster Cult's 'Dominance and
Submission.' (Great tune, btw, especially live).
McCabe
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User: "Dan Clore"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 02 Jun 2006 07:00:07 PM
wrote:

ilya2@rcn.com wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.

Ah c'mon, its not like his sig plays Blue Oyster Cult's 'Dominance and
Submission.' (Great tune, btw, especially live).

Yeah, but what do kids today make out of lyrics like "45 RPM
/ Too much revolution"?
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
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http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
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User: ""

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 03 Jun 2006 02:59:07 AM
Dan Clore wrote:

kevinmccabe@yahoo.com wrote:

ilya2@rcn.com wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.


Ah c'mon, its not like his sig plays Blue Oyster Cult's 'Dominance and
Submission.' (Great tune, btw, especially live).


Yeah, but what do kids today make out of lyrics like "45 RPM
/ Too much revolution"?

Well, I can't speak for them all. But my daughter has a simple
philosophy. When there is doubt as to an item's purpose, it can usually
be worn. There must be some kind of way to use a forty-five to tie back
one's hair or use as a hat. Seriously, though, if you just explain to
them that a forty-five is just an antique I-tune, they get the point.
However, I think Cailey would die at the stake before admitting that
there was such a thing as too much revolution. Its an opinion that the
flames could not drag from her.
McCabe
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User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 02 Jun 2006 08:47:27 PM
Dan Clore wrote:

kevinmccabe@yahoo.com wrote:

ilya2@rcn.com wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.


Ah c'mon, its not like his sig plays Blue Oyster Cult's 'Dominance and
Submission.' (Great tune, btw, especially live).


Yeah, but what do kids today make out of lyrics like "45 RPM
/ Too much revolution"?

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User: "Dan Clore"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 02 Jun 2006 06:53:38 PM
wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.

You're asking if I want to "concur" evil?
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
Lord We˙rdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
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User: ""

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 03 Jun 2006 12:18:00 PM
Dan Clore wrote:

ilya2@rcn.com wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.


You're asking if I want to "concur" evil?

Sorry, but I do not understand your question.
To clarify my original question: the handwritten note claimed that De
Sade's book was an expression of ultimate evil. That claim is an
opinion, not a verifiable fact. Do you agree with that opinion,
partially agree, or not at all?
.
User: "Dan Clore"

Title: Re: How Marquis De Sade Became Hero Of The Left 05 Jun 2006 03:16:52 AM
wrote:

Dan Clore wrote:

wrote:

Well, Dan, do you agree with that handwritten note or not? Judging by
your sig, I doubt that note closely matches your own views.


You're asking if I want to "concur" evil?


Sorry, but I do not understand your question.

The writer meant "conquer", not "concur".

To clarify my original question: the handwritten note claimed that De
Sade's book was an expression of ultimate evil. That claim is an
opinion, not a verifiable fact. Do you agree with that opinion,
partially agree, or not at all?

I prefer the sort of viewpoint expressed in the following
article:
The Semantics of "Good" & "Evil"
by Robert Anton Wilson
The late Laurance Labadie once told me a parable about a
king who decided that everytime he met somebody he would
kick them in the butt, just to emphasize his power. My
memory may have elaborated this yarn a bit over the years,
but basically it continues as follows: since this maniac
wore a crown and had an army, people soon learned to
tolerate being kicked fairly often, and even began to accept
it philosophically or stoically, as they accept taxation and
other impositions of kings and governors. They even learned
to bend over as soon as they saw the king coming.
Eventually, the king died and his successor naturally
continued the tradition and kicked anybody *he* chanced to
meet. Centuries passed, and, in the usual course of things,
the nobility as a whole had demanded, and acquired, the same
"right" as the king: any baron could kick anybody of lesser
rank, and the knights could kick anybody except the barons
or the royal family, etc. A large part of the population
spent most of its waking hours facing a wall, crouched over,
waiting for the next boot in the bottom.
The coming of democracy, in that amazing parallel universe,
could only be understood according to the traditional
thought-forms or acquired mental habits of the strange
people there. Democracy therefore meant to those peculiar
folks that *anybody* could kick *anybody else* as long as
the kicker could prove that he (or she) had a bigger bank
balance than the person receiving the boot in the rump.
Within the context of the gloss or grid or reality-tunnel in
that world, "democracy" could not have any other *thinkable*
meaning. (See Berger and Luckman's _The Social Creation of
Reality_ if this sounds fantastic to you.)
Of course, at first everybody rejoiced in the Constitution
of the new democracy, for now "justice" (as they understood
it) had been achieved: if you had good health and good luck,
you could eventually accumulate enough money in a bank to
have the "right" to kick as many people as had the "right"
to kick you, and if you were especially shrewd or especially
lucky, you could rise to the level where you could kick
almost everybody and nobody whoso ever could kick you.
Of course, eventually Heretics appeared in that world, as in
ours. These people wanted kicking abolished entirely, and
they refused to admit that this constituted a "wild and
radical idea." They said it just seemed like "common sense"
and "common decency" to them. Naturally, no sane, sound
person would take such loonies seriously for a moment. In
order to avoid thinking about the arguments of the Heretics,
the sane, sound citizens developed a vocabulary to
dehumanize and discredit them. Anybody who objected to being
kicked regularly was called a "whiner," a "malcontent," a
"coward," a "queer," a "gutless Liberal," a "loser," a
"defective," a "deviant," a "nut," a "bum" etc.
You see, the people in that world had been conditioned to
believe that if you pinned such labels on Heretics, then it
was not necessary to think about any of their arguments. (I
will pass over in silence the creepy possibility that
certain contributors to _Critique_ seem to have arrived from
that goofy alternative reality with their ideas of what
constitutes reasonable debate unchanged during
spatio-temporal transformation.)
Larry Labadie had his own point to make in creating that
parable: as an anarchist, he believed the State Socialists
were carrying over the worst features of Capitalism in their
proposed Utopia. To me, however, the parable has a more
general meaning, which I would state as follows: If people
have lived with something every day of their lives, and
especially if they know it has continued for many centuries,
it becomes almost impossible to question it without sounding
like some kind of pervert or eccentric, or, at best, like an
intellectual wiseacre who can be suspected of just playing
head-games or merely "toying with ideas." At worst, the
sane, sound domesticated people will decide you want to
destroy the world or overthrow the deity or intend some
atrocity equally drastic, and they will conspire to silence you.
To illustrate: after two centuries, most educated people can
understand the philosophy of Deism as expounded by Voltaire.
Historical research makes abundantly clear, however, that
most of Voltaire's contemporaries did not understand Deism
at all; references to him as an "atheist" can be found
continually, not just in writers with polemical intent, but
also in many who evidently thought they were writing
objective expository prose. It seemed impossible at that
time for most persons to comprehend that denying the
Christian God (G[subscript c], for convenience) did not mean
denying any and all possible Gods (G[subscript x]).
Midway between Voltaire's time and our own, Theodore
Roosevelt, in a celebrated speech, referred to Thomas Paine
as a "dirty little atheist." Contemporary accounts describe
Paine as clean and tall, and his own writings express a
Deist, not Atheist, philosophy. It seems that c.
1900 many still found it hard to recognize that between
Christian Orthodoxy and Atheism many other possible
philosophical positions -- Aristotelian "excluded middles"
-- can be found by the independent enquiring mind.
To proceed from philosophical kindergarten to graduate
school in one step, consider this more advanced
illustration: between 1900 and c. 1926, quantum physicists
discovered that certain Aristotelian "laws of thought"
simply do not apply to the sub-atomic level. Specifically,
one cannot meaningfully speak of a sub-atomic "particle" as
a thing-in-itself possessing indwelling "properties'
apart from the observer and the observerational appn
tus. Worse: a sub-atomic "particle" cannot even accun
be called a "particle" without the quotation marks, sin
acts like a wave as often as it acts like a particle.
As I say, this sub-atomic non-Aristotelianism emerged from
experiments and analysis in the first quarter of this
century. The subsequent half a century has confirmed that
the sub-atomic world acts in an even more non-Aristolelian
fashion than appeared at first, and no attempt to hammer the
data into an Aristotelian framework has succeeded.
What has emerged as the consequence of this? As Labadie's
parable of the alternative world indicates, the consequence
seems to be that quantum mathematics not only seems weird to
laypersons but even to the leading physicists themselves,
who have trouble understanding each other. If a scientific
system cannot be stated in Aristotelian terms, nobody in our
society is quite sure how it *can* be stated. To return to
our metaphor, quantum philosophers seem to be trying to
think of a world without arse-kicking while their minds are
subtly programmed by a world in which such arse-kicking
remains a predominant feature.
Thus, the famous or infamous "Copenhagen Interpretation" of
Neils Bohr and his students (c. 1926-28) seems to me to mean
that we cannot talk meaningfully about any absolute
Aristotelian "reality" apart from us, but only about the
relative "realities" we existentially-experimentally
encounter and/or measure -- but that Interpretation of the
Copenhagen Interpretation must be described as only the way
it _seems_ to me. According to Dr. Nick Herbert of UC-Santa
Cruz, the Copenhagen Interpretation means that no such
animal as "reality" can ever be found at all, at all. I do
not mean to exaggerate: in _Quantum Reality_, Dr. Herbert
actually states the Copenhagen view as "There is no deep
reality." But, then, he dislikes the Copenhagen view, and
has called it "the Christian Science school of physics."
Prof. Mermin of Columbia, defending the Copenhagen
Interpretation, does sound as radical as Dr. Herbert,
attacking it; Mermin says bluntly that "the moon is
demonstrably not there when nobody is looking at it."
John Gribbin, physics editor of _New Scientist_, also
actually writes bluntly that the Copenhagen view means
"nothing is real" on one page of his book, _In Search of
Schroedinger's Cat_, but more restrainedly he says later
that "'reality' in the everyday sense" appears not *useful*
in physics. Nobel laureate Eugene Wiegner, meanwhile, says
that the Copenhagen position proves that we create the
manifestations we observe in a laboratory (by designing the
experiments that produce those manifestations) and therefore
cannot apprehend anything as itself but only as it appears
to us. Or, rather, I *think* that describes what Wiegner
says. Wiegner's critics claim that he says we create
"reality" by thinking about it, which makes the old man
sound like he has overdosed on acid or too many Shirley
MacLaine TV specials.
John von Neumann, meanwhile, suggested in 1933 that quantum
systems should be mathematically considered as having three
possible states (yes, no and maybe, in nonmathematical
language) in contrast to the two states of Aristotelian
logic (yes and no.) Prof. David Finkelstein still argues
that this makes more sense than any other way of talking
about the sub-atomic world, but the majority of physicists
think von Neumann merely performed a mathematical "stunt"
with no physical significance.
The dominance of kicking in the thoughts of Labadie's
alternative world, and of Aristotelian logic in our world,
indicates the difficulty humans experience in trying to
perceive, or communicate their perceptions, outside the grid
or gloss of the conditioned reality-tunnel of their "tribe"
or society.
For instance, we often hear, and perhaps ourselves say, "It
is raining." Such a sentence illustrates what Bertrand
Russell called the domination of subject-predicate grammar
over Western "thought" or philosophy (or perception?). "It"
seems to appear in that sentence only because
subject-predicate grammar demands a subject for the
verb-form "is raining." If you ask yourself what that
mysterious "it" denotes, you will find the question rather
puzzling (unless you believe in a primitive rain-god like
Zeus or Jehovah . . .) The same subject-predicate structure
underlies most pseudo-scientific thinking, such as that of
Moliere's physician who said opium makes one sleepy because
it contains a "sleep-producing property." Most
folk-explanations of human behavior notoriously fall into
this category -- e.g. a woman does not work because she has
a "laziness-producing demon" in her or "is" "lazy," where a
functional analysis would seek a crisper, less demonological
explanation in a depressed economy, in nutritional or
endocrine imbalances, or, most likely, in some syngergetic
combination of social and internal dynamics.
In general, traditional Western thought, especially on the
folklore level, posits indwelling Aristotelian "essences"
(or spooks) to explain virtually everything, where science
—- and, curiously, Eastern philosophy -- tend to find
explanations in functional relationships described
phenomenologically in terms of observed interactions. This
may explain why science and Eastern philosophy appear
equally absurd (or equally nefarious) to those raised in the
traditional Western Christian reality-tunnel.
Specifically, we in our Western world have been conditioned
and/or brainwashed by 2000 years of Christian metaphysics
about "Good" and "Evil," and to question that system of
thought or reality-tunnel -- or to offer a phenomenological
alternative -- creates a high probability (of about 99.97%,
I estimate) that nobody will understand what one wishes to
communicate. Nonetheless, I intend to take that risk here. I
will experience great surprise and no small delight if any
of the negative comments this elicits show any comprehension
of my actual meanings.
To begin with, it seems to me that, as Nietzsche said, naive
or intuitive concepts of "good" and "bad" have a different
history than, and can otherwise be distinguished from,
hypothetical indwelling spooks like "Good" and "Evil." As
probably used by our earliest ancestors, and as used by most
people today, "good" and "bad" have the same meanings as
they have for any other animals: "good" means "good for me"
and "bad" means "bad for me." Thus, a dog "knows" somehow
that foul-smelling food should be considered "bad for me;"
an educated human knows further that some sweet-smelling
food may act "bad for me" also. All animals, including
humans, "know" at birth, and continue to "know" -- unless
(in the case of humans) counter-conditioned or brainwashed
-- that hugging, cuddling, petting and oral and/or genital
embrace definitely act upon the organism in ways "good for me."
From this pre-metaphysical or phenomenological or
operational point of view, I quite readily and easily
identify many events or "things" in space-time that appear
"good for me" (e.g. tasty food, freedom of the press, clever
comedy, great painting, love-making, Beethoven, my word
processor, money arriving regularly in large doses, certain
drugs and vitamins, the above mentioned
hugging-petting-fusion etc., etc.). I also observe easily
many "things" or events in space-time that appear "bad for
me" (e.g. Fundamentalist Christianity, Communism, Naziism,
all other attempts to interfere with my liberty, toxic food,
toxic waste, horror movies, certain drugs etc., etc.). I
also observe that many things that seem "bad for me" seem
"good" or harmless for others.
Continuing on this existential-phenomenological basis, it
next appears to me that "good for me" and "bad for me" must
be considered relative functions, in several senses. What
appears "good for me" often appears "bad" for somebody else;
or what appears "good for me" may sooner or later have
consequences "bad for me;" or what appears "good for me"
when age 20 may no longer appear "good for me" at age 50;
and some recreations I judge "good for me" may later clearly
appear "bad for me." In general, "good for me" always
remains relative to my knowledge or ignorance at the time I
make the judgement, and I know from experience that I judge
wrongly at times. (Notably, although hugging, cuddling etc.
always appear "good for me," the consequences of picking the
wrong partner or the wrong time may clearly emerge later as
unequivocally "bad for me." This probably underlies most
sexual superstitions, phobias and fixations.)
Some animals seem at times genetically programmed to
recognize, some of the time, "good for my pack" or even
"good for my species," as documented in e.g. E. Wilson's
_Sociobiology_, Dawkin's _The Selfish Gene_ and similar
works. With or without such genetic programming as hidden
agenda, many humans clearly show the capacity to think
about, and aim for, that which appears "good for my species"
or even (recently) "good for the biosphere as a whole." Such
judgements still remain relative to the general welfare of
the judger, relative to location and history in space-time
(what appears good for the foxes will probably appear bad
for the chickens) and, even in the case of "good for the
biosphere" relative to the knowledge or ignorance of the judger.
Before proceeding, I beg the reader to notice that if human
semantics had remained on this primitive phenomenological
level, and the relativity of judgement remained obvious to
all, negotiation and compromise would perforce play a larger
role in history than they have hitherto, and violent
"crusades" and religious/ideological wars would have played
a comparatively smaller role. It always appears possible to
negotiate about what appears good and bad to us in concrete
situations; but it becomes increasingly impossible to
negotiate successfully when metaphysical "Good" and "Evil"
enter the universe of discourse. The tendency becomes then
to fight, and to fight as violently as possible, as the
blood-curdling history of Christian dogmatism clearly shows,
and as such secular religions as Naziism and Communism have
proven again in our own century.
By comparison, the Confucian ethic remains phenomenological;
Confucius explicitly said that his system "was not against
human nature" and compared it to "loving a beautiful flower
or hating a bad smell, also called "respecting one's own
nose." Taoism and Buddhism differ from Confucius chiefly in
greater awareness of the relativity of judgements (and the
possibility of trans-ego perception or detached-from-ego
perception); but neither contains anything like the
Occidental metaphysical concept of "Good" and "Evil."
Indeed, some of the most famous passages in Taoist and
Buddhist scripture hurl ridicule at any metaphysical notions
of nonrelative "Good" and "Evil" -- notions which apparently
emerged occasionally in the Orient, among eccentrics, as
Oriental pantheism occasionally appears in the Occident,
among eccentrics.
Nietzsche, as most people know, believed that metaphysical
"Good" and "Evil" not only contradict most intuitive
organismic evaluations of "good for me" and "bad for me" but
appear to have been devised with the intent of contradicting
(and confusing) such naive or "natural" reactions. (Most
priestly notions of sexual "Good" and "Evil," notoriously
contradict and confuse naive or natural organismic
evaluations, for instance.) In other words, Nietzsche
claimed that priests invented "Good" and "Evil" to obtain
*power over others* -- to persuade people not to trust their
own evaluations; to place all trust, instead, on the priests
themselves as alleged representatives of a hypothetical
gaseous vertebrate of astronomical heft and mass called
"God." It appears to have been Nietzsche' opinion that since
this hypothetical gaseous vertebrate could not be located in
normal sensory-sensual (existential) space-time, the
priests, in effect, intended to teach people, "Don't trust
yourself; trust us" or, more bluntly still, "Don't think;
we'll do the thinking for you."
According to this analysis, political tyrants, who only
control our bodies and actions, exhibit less raw "lust for
power" than Popes or Ayatollahs or other priests who try to
control our thoughts and judgements, i.e. to invade our
inmost sanctuary. (See Nietzsche's _Will to Power_ for an
extensive analysis of this phenomenon.)
Whatever one thinks about this Nietzschean attempt to
psychoanalyze the motives of the ancient priestcraft, it
appears historically that the "Good" and "Evil" metaphysics,
as distinguished again from simple organismic judgements of
"good for me" and "bad for me," has functioned to give
power, and always more power, in horse doctor's doses, to
priests and preachers of all hues and persuasions. (It seems
easy to think of a Buddhist or Taoist monk or Confucian
gentleman-scholar as possibly living in isolation, but a
Christian clergyperson, by definition, seems to be somebody
who tells *other people* what to think and what to do., i.e.
has *power* over then usually based on raw fear and threat,
e.g. "You will go to Hell if you doubt me.") After 2000
years of Christianity, most people accept being told what
"is" "Good" and "Evil" by an alleged expert just as
automatically as the people Labadie's parable accepted being
kicked.
Does history tend to justify Nietzsche's view that this
system of otherworldly metaphysics (interpreted by alleged
experts on that alleged other world) leads to "degeneracy,"
"decadence," "sickness," "neuroses," "lunacy," "epilepsy"
etc.? Well, I don't know about epilepsy (which now appears
organic or ge