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05 Jul 2007 07:44:35 AM |
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How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
07 Jul 2007 04:01:23 PM |
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"simple_language@yahoo.com" <simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1183639475.605978.166240@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
Eh, too touchy-feely for my taste. The burden of making nice shouldn't just
be on us, any more than the burden of proof is.
Besides...I'm rather enchanted by the fantasy of walking up to a street
preacher and punching him in the nose. "Turn the other cheek!"
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
07 Jul 2007 07:29:09 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:01:23 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
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"simple_language@yahoo.com" <simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1183639475.605978.166240@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
Eh, too touchy-feely for my taste. The burden of making nice shouldn't just
be on us, any more than the burden of proof is.
Besides...I'm rather enchanted by the fantasy of walking up to a street
preacher and punching him in the nose. "Turn the other cheek!"
Just don't knock his eye out.
They have an "escape clause" for that eventuality...
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
08 Jul 2007 01:52:49 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:01:23 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
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"simple_language@yahoo.com" <simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1183639475.605978.166240@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Athei
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Eh, too touchy-feely for my taste. The burden of making nice shouldn't
just be on us, any more than the burden of proof is.
Besides...I'm rather enchanted by the fantasy of walking up to a
street preacher and punching him in the nose. "Turn the other cheek!"
Just don't knock his eye out.
They have an "escape clause" for that eventuality...
If his eye offend me...
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "Davej" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
05 Jul 2007 01:32:15 PM |
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On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
05 Jul 2007 05:45:32 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:15 -0700, Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183660335.723837.266620@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
It shouldn't matter.
Dangerous infantile lies are just that, no matter who holds them.
If one is to prostitute reality and truth for a slightly more
comfortable existence, one is then complicit by inaction with
religious extremists, and the paedophilic clergy, the
anti-contraception murderers, and so-on.
Holding back one iota in bringing these bastards to task should invoke
mighty shame.
Especially when WE PAY for their outrageous criminal nonsense with our
taxes!
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
--
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
06 Jul 2007 07:06:26 AM |
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On Jul 5, 6:45 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:15 -0700, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183660335.723837.266...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
It shouldn't matter.
Dangerous infantile lies are just that, no matter who holds them.
If one is to prostitute reality and truth for a slightly more
comfortable existence, one is then complicit by inaction with
religious extremists, and the paedophilic clergy, the
anti-contraception murderers, and so-on.
Holding back one iota in bringing these bastards to task should invoke
mighty shame.
Especially when WE PAY for their outrageous criminal nonsense with our
taxes!
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
--
I disagree. They are the majority. They also hold positions and
influences that can make your life miserable. While I'm firm about it
when asked, it is often best to avoid the whole damn mess with a
little bit of discretion. I still need to hold onto my job, pay my
mortgage, get my car fixed, and so forth. Doing so is a lot easier
when you don't label yourself; "ENEMY"
Hatter
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
06 Jul 2007 08:05:24 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:06:26 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183723586.519810.208970@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 6:45 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:15 -0700, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183660335.723837.266...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
It shouldn't matter.
Dangerous infantile lies are just that, no matter who holds them.
If one is to prostitute reality and truth for a slightly more
comfortable existence, one is then complicit by inaction with
religious extremists, and the paedophilic clergy, the
anti-contraception murderers, and so-on.
Holding back one iota in bringing these bastards to task should invoke
mighty shame.
Especially when WE PAY for their outrageous criminal nonsense with our
taxes!
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
--
I disagree. They are the majority. They also hold positions and
influences that can make your life miserable. While I'm firm about it
when asked, it is often best to avoid the whole damn mess with a
little bit of discretion. I still need to hold onto my job, pay my
mortgage, get my car fixed, and so forth. Doing so is a lot easier
when you don't label yourself; "ENEMY"
Hatter
That was *EXACTLY* the prevailing attitude to racism for centuries.
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, *****"
And most had no choice because of the power that was wielded over
them.
It was 100% wrong then, and it is wrong now.
It is equally wrong when applied to atheism.
But you suggest that we condorm because of the power wielded over us!
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, infidel"
Caving in to that pressure is 100% wrong now, and in the futire.
Can you not see that?
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
09 Jul 2007 08:29:02 AM |
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On Jul 6, 9:05 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:06:26 -0700,Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183723586.519810.208...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 6:45 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:15 -0700, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183660335.723837.266...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
It shouldn't matter.
Dangerous infantile lies are just that, no matter who holds them.
If one is to prostitute reality and truth for a slightly more
comfortable existence, one is then complicit by inaction with
religious extremists, and the paedophilic clergy, the
anti-contraception murderers, and so-on.
Holding back one iota in bringing these bastards to task should invoke
mighty shame.
Especially when WE PAY for their outrageous criminal nonsense with our
taxes!
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
--
I disagree. They are the majority. They also hold positions and
influences that can make your life miserable. While I'm firm about it
when asked, it is often best to avoid the whole damn mess with a
little bit of discretion. I still need to hold onto my job, pay my
mortgage, get my car fixed, and so forth. Doing so is a lot easier
when you don't label yourself; "ENEMY"
Hatter
That was *EXACTLY* the prevailing attitude to racism for centuries.
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, *****"
And most had no choice because of the power that was wielded over
them.
It was 100% wrong then, and it is wrong now.
It is equally wrong when applied to atheism.
But you suggest that we condorm because of the power wielded over us!
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, infidel"
Caving in to that pressure is 100% wrong now, and in the futire.
Can you not see that?
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
10 Jul 2007 04:02:40 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 6, 9:05 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:06:26 -0700,Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183723586.519810.208...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 6:45 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:15 -0700, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1183660335.723837.266...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
This article is really dreadful. The primary problem is that this is a
very broad issue. Are you talking to your grandparents, your
coworkers, your supervisor, or some acquaintances at a social event?
It shouldn't matter.
Dangerous infantile lies are just that, no matter who holds them.
If one is to prostitute reality and truth for a slightly more
comfortable existence, one is then complicit by inaction with
religious extremists, and the paedophilic clergy, the
anti-contraception murderers, and so-on.
Holding back one iota in bringing these bastards to task should invoke
mighty shame.
Especially when WE PAY for their outrageous criminal nonsense with our
taxes!
Also are you living in Amsterdam or some little burg in rural
Mississippi?
And even if the article was well written, it would soon be re-written
by theists.
--
I disagree. They are the majority. They also hold positions and
influences that can make your life miserable. While I'm firm about it
when asked, it is often best to avoid the whole damn mess with a
little bit of discretion. I still need to hold onto my job, pay my
mortgage, get my car fixed, and so forth. Doing so is a lot easier
when you don't label yourself; "ENEMY"
Hatter
That was *EXACTLY* the prevailing attitude to racism for centuries.
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, *****"
And most had no choice because of the power that was wielded over
them.
It was 100% wrong then, and it is wrong now.
It is equally wrong when applied to atheism.
But you suggest that we condorm because of the power wielded over us!
"Shut up and don't rock the boat, infidel"
Caving in to that pressure is 100% wrong now, and in the futire.
Can you not see that?
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
Compare Uncle Tom with Rosa Parks.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
10 Jul 2007 05:03:28 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
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No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
Compare Uncle Tom with Rosa Parks.
Whatever.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Hatter" |
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10 Jul 2007 06:00:53 AM |
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On Jul 10, 6:03 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
Of Course it depends upon the situation. One thing I was more or less
forced into recently, I didn't know what to do. I was at a wedding
shower party for my supervisor and "the opening prayer/grace" is being
said. Moments like thathave happen at work before and I just quietly
take two steps back and don't bother anyone, but don't joint in the
"amen" crap. But this time they said for everyone to join hands and as
I was stepping back those on either side forcefully grabbed my hands.
I didn't want to cause a disruption but I thought it rude. Now I will
just make myself absent from these events as they have gotten
progressively more religious in tone.
But every time I've ever been directly asked...I've called myself
atheist. When someone tries to engage me in relgious conversation, I
say "i don't think that is appropriate at the workplace" As well as
I've refused the severe offical pressure to volunteer at a local
religious charity.
Hardly "uncle Tom" though in some ways I wish I could really pretend
at length to be Christian to see what I could scam out of people, but
my intergrity keeps my from taking it that far. I however have gone
out in full Roman Catholic preist garb and messed with people.
Hatter
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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10 Jul 2007 06:23:16 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184065253.608609.321030@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 6:03 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
Of Course it depends upon the situation. One thing I was more or less
forced into recently, I didn't know what to do. I was at a wedding
shower party for my supervisor and "the opening prayer/grace" is being
said. Moments like thathave happen at work before and I just quietly
take two steps back and don't bother anyone, but don't joint in the
"amen" crap. But this time they said for everyone to join hands and as
I was stepping back those on either side forcefully grabbed my hands.
I didn't want to cause a disruption but I thought it rude. Now I will
just make myself absent from these events as they have gotten
progressively more religious in tone.
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Once when I was in a wedding MANY years ago, I had already informed the
bride that if it was okay with her, I wouldn't take communion during the
ceremony because not only wasn't I Catholic, I was an atheist. She was
totally cool with it. However, when the priest came up to the bridal party,
BAM!, everyone got down on their knees. As I didn't want any attention
taken off the happy couple ("Did you see that bridesmaid that refused
communion!"), I got down on my knees with everyone else and had the magic
cookie and cheap vino. The bride was very upset for me when I told her
later, but I assured her that I was none the worse for the experience. The
maid of honor asked me "Did you feel all holy?" I told her I was just glad
that the ceremony wasn't disrupted by me getting struck by a lightening bolt
;)
But every time I've ever been directly asked...I've called myself
atheist. When someone tries to engage me in relgious conversation, I
say "i don't think that is appropriate at the workplace" As well as
I've refused the severe offical pressure to volunteer at a local
religious charity.
Good for you :)
Hardly "uncle Tom" though in some ways I wish I could really pretend
at length to be Christian to see what I could scam out of people, but
my intergrity keeps my from taking it that far.
Now, why would you want to lower yourself to their level? ;)
I however have gone
out in full Roman Catholic preist garb and messed with people.
LOL! Well, I did dress up as a nun for Halloween once and really *****
my sis-in-laws. It was worth it ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
10 Jul 2007 07:42:07 AM |
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On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Hatter
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
10 Jul 2007 10:50:47 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184071327.704946.19990@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the
family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: How to Deal With Religious People if You Are an Atheist |
10 Jul 2007 11:03:40 AM |
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On Jul 10, 11:50 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184071327.704946.19990@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the
family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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Baltimore, Maryland
Hatter
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10 Jul 2007 11:25:03 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 11:50 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184071327.704946.19990@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the
family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
Baltimore, Maryland
Goodness, I had no idea it was like that there. Good luck! :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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10 Jul 2007 11:33:19 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184083420.505724.102810@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 11:50 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184071327.704946.19990@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's
side of the family. I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake
thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
Baltimore, Maryland
Goodness, I had no idea it was like that there. Good luck! :(
It makes me glad that we didn't stop there, the two times we went through town
six years ago...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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10 Jul 2007 03:40:58 PM |
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On Jul 10, 12:25 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184083420.505724.102810@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 11:50 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184071327.704946.19990@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of the
family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
Baltimore, Maryland
Goodness, I had no idea it was like that there. Good luck! :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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The town is not so bad to visit. It certainly isn't as bad as the
Bible belt(particularly Georgia outside of Atlanta)...it is far less
under religions thumb than Salt Lake. It is just that THIS office
seems to be an epicenter.
Hatter
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11 Jul 2007 09:05:22 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 12:25 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
On Jul 10, 11:50 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Wow. I haven't been exposed to anything like that outside of the
occasional
Catholic church service I have to go to for my husband's side of
the
family.
I hate that whole "peace be with you" handshake thing ;P
Um I work at a state office, which you migh mean there would be less
of that, but it has been the most religously oriented workplace I've
worked in. JW wait at the pedestrian exit of the fenced parking lot,
pamplet handers and "god bless you" panhandlers often are along the
walk to the entrance, there are church trip flyers on the bulleitin
boards, bibles on two thirds of my co-workers desks, several have
radios tuned to the religous stations, there is official pessure to
volunteer at a religous charity(you get time off from work, plaques,
mentioned in newsletters, and invited to special events), and, my
personal beef, every pay day two elderly Nuns with collection
baskets
are inside the building flanking the exit door.
This is the world I live in.
Wow! Where the heck is this?!?
Baltimore, Maryland
Goodness, I had no idea it was like that there. Good luck! :(
The town is not so bad to visit. It certainly isn't as bad as the
Bible belt(particularly Georgia outside of Atlanta)...it is far less
under religions thumb than Salt Lake. It is just that THIS office
seems to be an epicenter.
Oh my, I don't know if I could work in a place like that. Good luck to you
;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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11 Jul 2007 09:35:31 AM |
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On Jul 10, 12:25 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
Goodness, I had no idea it was like that there. Good luck! :(
I live in an upstate, NY town. In a past job here,
someone who thought he was my supervisor took
me aside to a storeroom and pressured me to tell
him what kind of christian I wanted to be, with
a strong implication that my future employment
there was linked to the right answer. That's
the worst I've directly seen around here, but I know
that as an atheist I'm missing out on much of my
community's social networking, as the common
place for it is church functions.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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10 Jul 2007 10:11:51 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Compare Uncle Tom with Rosa Parks.
Whatever.
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11 Jul 2007 03:26:32 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Neither am I. BTW, religion is rarely shoved in my face where I live.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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11 Jul 2007 09:10:55 AM |
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On Jul 11, 4:26 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:sii8939055kufvnrc0eclsu7f4mrqlfd3j@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700,Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Neither am I. BTW, religion is rarely shoved in my face where I live.
--
Ha once I had this preacher in a corner in front of a church yelling
at me about how "Your Mortal Soul is in Peril!" bugging me I think
because I had my Voodoo museum t-shirt on.
I lost it and started yelling back to him "Leave me the ***** alone,
all I'm doing walking the street to buy fucking groceries!"
Hatter
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11 Jul 2007 11:25:01 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 11, 4:26 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:sii8939055kufvnrc0eclsu7f4mrqlfd3j@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700,Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't
go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation,
of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Neither am I. BTW, religion is rarely shoved in my face where I live.
--
Ha once I had this preacher in a corner in front of a church yelling
at me about how "Your Mortal Soul is in Peril!" bugging me I think
because I had my Voodoo museum t-shirt on.
I lost it and started yelling back to him "Leave me the ***** alone,
all I'm doing walking the street to buy fucking groceries!"
Oh my! What was his response?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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11 Jul 2007 05:31:25 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:26:32 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:sii8939055kufvnrc0eclsu7f4mrqlfd3j@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Neither am I.
Oh, I had gained the distinct impression that you resided in the
"United Theocracy of America"...
TW, religion is rarely shoved in my face where I live.
You were *lucky*!
We used to have lick church clean wi' tongue!
An' ye tell that to the the kids of today, an' they wom't believe you.
;)
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11 Jul 2007 05:41:13 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:26:32 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:sii8939055kufvnrc0eclsu7f4mrqlfd3j@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:03:28 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:imi693tuiafl9anae33cqsrqlvv7mball0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:02 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
No. Sorry. I have to live in the real world, not the ideal world. I
am not independently wealthy. I need to get by. Often that means
putting up with their ***** while smiling through thin lips. I don't go
out of my way to pretend to be a Christian, but I don't actively let
people know how big a fool I think they are. I only respond to a
direct questions, or sometimes when my direct participation in
religious activities is asked for. I am already in two distrusted
minorities by being white and male, so regardless of my production
being over 250% of the office average, my position is always
precarious, so no need to further cement my outside status.
Hatter
It is your decision, of course.
I would rather suffer than prostitute my integrity.
See I'd rather "prostitute my integrity" (depending on the situation, of
course) - I have a kid to think about.
So do I.
But I am not living in a theocracy.
Neither am I.
Oh, I had gained the distinct impression that you resided in the
"United Theocracy of America"...
Not yet, anyway.
Look other parts of the country ar more religious than others. If I lived
in the bible belt (which I did once - never again), I might agree with you.
TW, religion is rarely shoved in my face where I live.
You were *lucky*!
We used to have lick church clean wi' tongue!
An' ye tell that to the the kids of today, an' they wom't believe you.
;)
I couldn't imagine why ;)
Shoot, I hadn't spoken to a fundie in over 20 years until a recent Memorial
Day party. And when I told her I was a "non-believer", she didn't even
freak out ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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05 Jul 2007 11:54:09 AM |
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On Jul 5, 7:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
Wow. That was a terribly written article. Not to mention the most
wishy-washy nonconfrontational tripe. Why not replace it all with
"Come on, guys. Try not to offend them, okay?"
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05 Jul 2007 12:50:37 PM |
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On Jul 5, 8:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
*****. More "shaddap and move to the back of the bus".
Here's how to "deal with" the quisling who wrote that crap:
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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07 Jul 2007 04:04:19 PM |
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wrote in news:1183657837.357933.146830
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Jul 5, 8:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
*****. More "shaddap and move to the back of the bus".
Here's how to "deal with" the quisling who wrote that crap:
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/
I've got an 11-87. Nice thing about a thunderstick like that is when you're
out of shells you can swing the damn thing.
Never even fired the critter yet.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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05 Jul 2007 01:14:30 PM |
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On Jul 5, 10:50 am, wrote:
On Jul 5, 8:44 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Religious-People-if-You-Are-an-Atheist
*****. More "shaddap and move to the back of the bus".
Here's how to "deal with" the quisling who wrote that crap:http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/
Good grief! And I thought *I* was militant! ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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