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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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08 Oct 2006 11:46:52 AM |
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How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 07:38:31 PM |
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"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
news:eggcib$qa8$1@reader1.panix.com...
In article <4abni2perf5dbgktsc1v1c083co81mda72@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:54:10 -0700, "Geoff"
Better turn on your TV, Robert. Hastert just changed
his story --again.
How so?
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| User: "Bradley K. Sherman" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 08:20:09 PM |
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In article <kpidnUMQFo2RoLHYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Geoff <geoff@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
news:eggcib$qa8$1@reader1.panix.com...
In article <4abni2perf5dbgktsc1v1c083co81mda72@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:54:10 -0700, "Geoff"
Better turn on your TV, Robert. Hastert just changed
his story --again.
How so?
Now he is not sure what happened and is waiting for his
staff (one of whom, Palmer, is his roommate) to testify
under oath before he answers questions about dates.
In other words, he's going to let his friends fry to
protect his position.
--bks
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| User: "Karen Newton" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 10:33:36 AM |
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Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.
"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
news:eggcib$qa8$1@reader1.panix.com...
In article <4abni2perf5dbgktsc1v1c083co81mda72@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:54:10 -0700, "Geoff"
Better turn on your TV, Robert. Hastert just changed
his story --again.
--bks
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 01:21:49 AM |
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In article <08hli2t4kh8sp8q5k3i61doidk9d8iic8j@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
It has nothing to do with the Democrats. So it isn't to their
credit, either.
LOL. A full house doesn't beat a pair, either, I suppose. Glad I am not
playing cards with you.
--
"I wear boots when I play that ol' squeezebox
Stompin' out rhythms
'till the headstones dance on their graves"
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| User: "Robert Sturgeon" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 09:31:46 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:21:49 -0500, bearclaw@cruller.invalid
wrote:
In article <08hli2t4kh8sp8q5k3i61doidk9d8iic8j@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
It has nothing to do with the Democrats. So it isn't to their
credit, either.
LOL. A full house doesn't beat a pair, either, I suppose. Glad I am not
playing cards with you.
Congratulations -- you win the Non Sequitur of the Day
Award.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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| User: "Bradley K. Sherman" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
08 Oct 2006 06:55:39 PM |
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In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago. When
ABC asked for a comment, then, and only then, Foley was OUT.
| ...
| If Fordham did warn Palmer about Foley a long time ago, what
| are the odds that Palmer did not tell Hastert? As close to
| zero as you can get. Many chiefs of staff are close, very
| close, to their bosses on Capitol Hill. But none are closer
| than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work
| together all day, they live together.
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| There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed
| together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief
| of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But
| it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell
| each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch
| up on. And then there's breakfast for anything they forgot
| to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there's
| all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more
| than any other co-workers in the Congress.
| ...
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20061007/cm_huffpost/031171>
--bks
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| User: "Robert Sturgeon" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 10:14:27 AM |
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
When
ABC asked for a comment, then, and only then, Foley was OUT.
Your hatred for Republicans is blinding you. Seek help.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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| User: "Jeff McCann" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 10:22:08 AM |
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"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says he told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
Jeff
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| User: "Robert Sturgeon" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 11:43:56 AM |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says he told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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| User: "Jeff McCann" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 11:59:51 AM |
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"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kuuki2hhraqdlkmb8tsj4fcf19j5bbqscb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says he
told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
Not a republican? OK, just a fellow traveler, then. Moreover, this isn't
about sex , it's about a crime, or series of them, relating to child abuse
or endangerment, plus the usual Republican attempt at a cover-up. Plenty of
Dems were quite offended by Clinton's illicit sexual activities, but there
is a clear distinction between consensual sex between adults and an adult
attempting to seduce children, despite all the Republican spin aimed at
blurring that distinction.
Jeff
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| User: "Robert Sturgeon" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 12:32:53 PM |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:59:51 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kuuki2hhraqdlkmb8tsj4fcf19j5bbqscb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says he
told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
Not a republican? OK, just a fellow traveler, then. Moreover, this isn't
about sex , it's about a crime, or series of them, relating to child abuse
or endangerment, plus the usual Republican attempt at a cover-up. Plenty of
Dems were quite offended by Clinton's illicit sexual activities,
And when it was time to impeach him for lying under oath,
where were all those offended Democrats? Nowhere to be
seen. But there sure were plenty of his Democratic
defenders around.
but there
is a clear distinction between consensual sex between adults and an adult
attempting to seduce children, despite all the Republican spin aimed at
blurring that distinction.
Children??? What is the age of consent in D.C.? Was Studds
NOT diddling a 17 y.o. child, but Foley WAS trying to seduce
a 17 y.o. child? Are 17 y.o.s "children"? Get off your
high horse, Jeff -- you look ridiculous up there.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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| User: "Jeff McCann" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 12:44:49 PM |
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"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:bm1li25mm5h71n28neuct882h0bbr7ropg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:59:51 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kuuki2hhraqdlkmb8tsj4fcf19j5bbqscb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says
he
told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
Not a republican? OK, just a fellow traveler, then. Moreover, this
isn't
about sex , it's about a crime, or series of them, relating to child
abuse
or endangerment, plus the usual Republican attempt at a cover-up. Plenty
of
Dems were quite offended by Clinton's illicit sexual activities,
And when it was time to impeach him for lying under oath,
where were all those offended Democrats? Nowhere to be
seen. But there sure were plenty of his Democratic
defenders around.
True enough, just like there are plenty of Republican defenders around Foley
and Hastert, some going so far as trying to blame the victim.
but there
is a clear distinction between consensual sex between adults and an adult
attempting to seduce children, despite all the Republican spin aimed at
blurring that distinction.
Children??? What is the age of consent in D.C.? Was Studds
NOT diddling a 17 y.o. child, but Foley WAS trying to seduce
a 17 y.o. child? Are 17 y.o.s "children"? Get off your
high horse, Jeff -- you look ridiculous up there.
Unfortunately, what Studds did decades ago was legal, but what Foley did is
illegal. You are also ignoring the apparent Republican conspiracy to cover
up their mess, even if it left a sexual predator on the loose. There was no
corresponding Democratic attempt to cover up for Studds. These are the
salient facts that make the Foley affair worse than it needed to be, and
your vattempts to ignore them, although obvious, are unconvincing (except as
to your bias).
Jeff
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| User: "Robert Sturgeon" |
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09 Oct 2006 04:48:28 PM |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:44:49 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:bm1li25mm5h71n28neuct882h0bbr7ropg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:59:51 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kuuki2hhraqdlkmb8tsj4fcf19j5bbqscb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who says
he
told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
Not a republican? OK, just a fellow traveler, then. Moreover, this
isn't
about sex , it's about a crime, or series of them, relating to child
abuse
or endangerment, plus the usual Republican attempt at a cover-up. Plenty
of
Dems were quite offended by Clinton's illicit sexual activities,
And when it was time to impeach him for lying under oath,
where were all those offended Democrats? Nowhere to be
seen. But there sure were plenty of his Democratic
defenders around.
True enough, just like there are plenty of Republican defenders around Foley
and Hastert, some going so far as trying to blame the victim.
Republicans defending Foley? LOL. Which ones??? Unlike
the Democrats who did everything possible to keep their
perverts and whatnot in office, the Republicans seem to be
quite happy that Foley is out.
but there
is a clear distinction between consensual sex between adults and an adult
attempting to seduce children, despite all the Republican spin aimed at
blurring that distinction.
Children??? What is the age of consent in D.C.? Was Studds
NOT diddling a 17 y.o. child, but Foley WAS trying to seduce
a 17 y.o. child? Are 17 y.o.s "children"? Get off your
high horse, Jeff -- you look ridiculous up there.
Unfortunately, what Studds did decades ago was legal, but what Foley did is
illegal. You are also ignoring the apparent Republican conspiracy to cover
up their mess,
Conspiracy? That's a stretch.
even if it left a sexual predator on the loose. There was no
corresponding Democratic attempt to cover up for Studds. These are the
salient facts that make the Foley affair worse than it needed to be, and
your vattempts to ignore them, although obvious, are unconvincing (except as
to your bias).
If you look up "Washington Sex Scandal" in the dictionary,
it'll say, "see -- Democratic Party." Your phony "concern"
about Republicans breaking the law and conspiring to cover
it up is downright humorous.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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| User: "Jeff McCann" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 08:18:01 PM |
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"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kggli29jjphu73tclub95lpqnhhrihoisq@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:44:49 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:bm1li25mm5h71n28neuct882h0bbr7ropg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:59:51 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:kuuki2hhraqdlkmb8tsj4fcf19j5bbqscb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:22:08 -0500, "Jeff McCann"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
"Robert Sturgeon" <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:7npki2ldp01valv7k5d5kadvfhfb0ulf2b@4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
In article <4f3ji2tbda77ceh49upo1alnv33aqp9535@4ax.com>,
Robert Sturgeon <rsturge@inreach.com> wrote:
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
Balderdash. It's clear that Hastert knew years ago.
There is no evidence that Hastert knew "years ago." He
claims to have first heard about it just recently. I know
of no reason to doubt his word on that.
Yet you choose to disbelieve the word of Rep. Tom Reynolds, who
says
he
told
Hastart about Foley months ago? How blindly partisan of you.
I'm not a member of any political party. But I am a
sentient human being, so I can see right through this
Democratic Party hypocrisy. Democratic Party leaders,
outraged by a sex scandal? Give me a break, fer cryin out
loud.
Not a republican? OK, just a fellow traveler, then. Moreover, this
isn't
about sex , it's about a crime, or series of them, relating to child
abuse
or endangerment, plus the usual Republican attempt at a cover-up.
Plenty
of
Dems were quite offended by Clinton's illicit sexual activities,
And when it was time to impeach him for lying under oath,
where were all those offended Democrats? Nowhere to be
seen. But there sure were plenty of his Democratic
defenders around.
True enough, just like there are plenty of Republican defenders around
Foley
and Hastert, some going so far as trying to blame the victim.
Republicans defending Foley? LOL. Which ones??? Unlike
the Democrats who did everything possible to keep their
perverts and whatnot in office, the Republicans seem to be
quite happy that Foley is out.
I'm sure. Foley knew his goose was cooked once his filthy e-mails got out.
Rather than try to defend the indefensible, he chose to resign in disgrace
as quietly as possible. This was a very fortunate break for the Republicans
who, with four weeks until the elections, could safely dump on Foley.
Hardly a noble or courageous stance.
But the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee and Republican Speaker
Hastert did defend Foley for months, possibly years, by covering up for
their fellow Republican who was obviously a predatory paedophile roaming the
halls of Congress preying on teenage pages.
but there
is a clear distinction between consensual sex between adults and an
adult
attempting to seduce children, despite all the Republican spin aimed
at
blurring that distinction.
Children??? What is the age of consent in D.C.? Was Studds
NOT diddling a 17 y.o. child, but Foley WAS trying to seduce
a 17 y.o. child? Are 17 y.o.s "children"? Get off your
high horse, Jeff -- you look ridiculous up there.
Unfortunately, what Studds did decades ago was legal, but what Foley did
is
illegal. You are also ignoring the apparent Republican conspiracy to
cover
up their mess,
Conspiracy? That's a stretch.
When the shoe fits . . .
even if it left a sexual predator on the loose. There was no
corresponding Democratic attempt to cover up for Studds. These are the
salient facts that make the Foley affair worse than it needed to be, and
your vattempts to ignore them, although obvious, are unconvincing (except
as
to your bias).
If you look up "Washington Sex Scandal" in the dictionary,
it'll say, "see -- Democratic Party." Your phony "concern"
about Republicans breaking the law and conspiring to cover
it up is downright humorous.
Both parties have a shameful history of sexual and other scandals. Your
phony pretense that it is "no big deal" when Republicans break the law and
conspire to cover it up is downright shameful.
Jeff
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08 Oct 2006 07:14:13 PM |
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Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:51:00 -0400, "Geoff"
<geoff@nospam.com> wrote:
(snips)
Sounds like you're taking it personally.
Sounds like you don't have anything but Limbaugh talking points.
Studds was wrong for having a sexual relationship with a
subordinate. He was censured. End of story.
Yes, that WAS the end of the story. The Democratic
congressional leadership did not hound him out of office.
They didn't investigate him. His idiotic Democratic voters
in MA re-elected him, over and over again. When the
Republican got caught, he was out.
The current situation is different. Yes, the relationship was
innapropriate. But the cover up was heinous.
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
They have known for a year Robert and by their own account no less. Perhaps
even as long as two or three.
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John R. Carroll
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09 Oct 2006 10:15:12 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:14:13 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
<jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote:
Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:51:00 -0400, "Geoff"
<geoff@nospam.com> wrote:
(snips)
Sounds like you're taking it personally.
Sounds like you don't have anything but Limbaugh talking points.
Studds was wrong for having a sexual relationship with a
subordinate. He was censured. End of story.
Yes, that WAS the end of the story. The Democratic
congressional leadership did not hound him out of office.
They didn't investigate him. His idiotic Democratic voters
in MA re-elected him, over and over again. When the
Republican got caught, he was out.
The current situation is different. Yes, the relationship was
innapropriate. But the cover up was heinous.
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
They have known for a year Robert and by their own account no less.
What "they" is that? Some staffer?
Perhaps
even as long as two or three.
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Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
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09 Oct 2006 06:31:40 PM |
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Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:14:13 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
<jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote:
Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:51:00 -0400, "Geoff"
<geoff@nospam.com> wrote:
(snips)
Sounds like you're taking it personally.
Sounds like you don't have anything but Limbaugh talking points.
Studds was wrong for having a sexual relationship with a
subordinate. He was censured. End of story.
Yes, that WAS the end of the story. The Democratic
congressional leadership did not hound him out of office.
They didn't investigate him. His idiotic Democratic voters
in MA re-elected him, over and over again. When the
Republican got caught, he was out.
The current situation is different. Yes, the relationship was
innapropriate. But the cover up was heinous.
WHAT "coverup"??? When the Republican congressional
leadership found out, Foley was OUT.
They have known for a year Robert and by their own account no less.
What "they" is that? Some staffer?
See for yourself. The "temperment" of the citations varies but the seem to
be consistent if you weight them.
As Republicans tried desperately to swat away allegations that the GOP
leadership had covered for a child predator in the halls of Congress,
this happened:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061004/NEWS01/610040365/1002/NEWS
Rep. Tom Reynolds was embroiled again Tuesday by reports that his
chief of staff tried to persuade ABC News not to report the most
sexually explicit computer messages between former Rep. Mark Foley of
Florida and teenage congressional pages.
Democratic Party officials in New York charged that aide Kirk Fordham,
a Greece native, tried to limit the scandal involving Foley, for whom
he once was chief of staff.
Fordham called that assertion "absurd" and said he was just trying to
spare Foley's sister, Donna, and his ailing parents.
But within hours, Fordham was gone.
According to ABC News:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/top_gop_staffer.html
The chief of staff for Republican Congressman Tom Reynolds, Kirk
Fordham, resigned after questions were raised about his role in the
handling of the congressional page scandal, according to Republican
sources on Capitol Hill.
Those sources said Fordham, a former chief of staff for Congressman
Mark Foley, had urged Republican leaders last spring not to raise
questionable Foley e-mails with the full Congressional Page Board,
made up of two Republicans and a Democrat.
"He begged them not to tell the page board," said one of the
Republican sources.
Not that this news stopped Laura Bush from dropping in on the
embattled Reynolds campaign for a spot of fundraising:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/06/263_laura.jpg
Ladies and gentlemen, he loves to sweep child predators under the rug,
I give you Tom Reynolds!
Unfortunately, Kirk Fordham wasn't going to go quietly.
According to the Associated Press:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/04/D8KI176G1.html
A senior congressional aide said Wednesday that he alerted House
Speaker Dennis Hastert's office two years ago about worrisome conduct
by former Rep. Mark Foley with teenage pages.
Kirk Fordham told The Associated Press that when he was told about
Foley's inappropriate behavior toward pages, he had "more than one
conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of
Representatives asking them to intervene."
The conversations took place long before the e-mail scandal broke,
Fordham said, and at least a year earlier than members of the House
GOP leadership have acknowledged.
Yipes.
With their leadership in the hot seat, Republicans needed a plan - and
fast.
Both Tom Reynolds and House Majority Leader John Boehner had already
blabbed to the press that Hastert knew about the allegations a long
time ago, and Hastert's position looked tenuous.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093001265_pf.html
But there was a problem - if Hastert quit, there would have to be a
leadership contest.
The obvious choice would be John Boehner, who was already up to his
neck in the Foley scandal.
It wouldn't take much for some enterprising young GOP congressman who
fancied a shot at the Speaker's chair to ruin Boehner's chances by
using the Foley scandal against him, and that would cause a massive
rift in the Republican party while they fought it out amongst
themselves - with only a month to go before the elections, no less.
Are you having fun yet?
Hastert had already offered to resign:
according to Paul Weyrich, "He said if he thought that resigning would
be helpful to the Republicans maintaining the majority, he would do
it."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Hastert_Ill_resign_if_it_helps_1005.html
Makes sense - Hastert wouldn't resign because it was the right thing
to do, but he'd do it if it would help Republicans retain control of
the House.
Now who's playing politics?
Meanwhile, in a compelling fit of minimalism, the Speaker's office put
out the shortest press release of all time:
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/10/shortest_congre.html
What Kirk Fordham said did not happen.
By EarlG
Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
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John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
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08 Oct 2006 02:00:30 PM |
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Marsha <mas@ves.org> wrote in
news:Rs2dnYmn3elKorTYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@buckeye-express.com:
Bernard Spilman wrote:
"Marsha" <mas@ves.org> wrote in message
news:avCdnf9EvZ4jqbTYnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@buckeye-express.com...
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat Gerry Studds
and his 17-year-old male page. And those wonderful people in
Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to re-elect this icon of decency five
times thereafter.
Marsha/Ohio
Studds broke no law. Democratic leaders did not know
of Studds' misdeeds and did not trry to cover them up for
political reasons. If you have a problem with the "wonderful
people in Martha's Vineyard," I suggest you take it up with
them, they do not speak for the Democratic Party.
WS
Sounds like you're taking it personally.
Marsha/Ohio
It's always Marsha, Marsha, MARSHA!!
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Jan
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08 Oct 2006 01:32:28 PM |
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Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons.
Oh, can't you and your kids just /feel/ that Republican love?
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after
"sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old
boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times
newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the
internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to
molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of
soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for
Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old
girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year
old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two
girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the
petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a
14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to
sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison
for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over
the internet.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two
15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two
girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison
for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy
and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child
rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president
Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old
girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing
child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders
an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years
probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex
with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004
presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair
with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate
relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in
prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore
television commercial.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the
White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White
House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a
female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn
charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes
involving children.
Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted
sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same
charge.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a
congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to
an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child
molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with
having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a
video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into
custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an
underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a
12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his
12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were
reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values,
was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to
perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals
to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years
in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay
couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his
daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years
probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree
sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of
lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing
himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting
a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male
child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a
teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of
molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful
sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a
15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child
pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal
prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry
Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was
convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over
the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military
man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an
11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota
governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four
underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve
Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo
molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell
Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr.,
was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with
grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over
the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of
young women.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in
Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information
about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here
and his full report here.
You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
Marsha/Ohio
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There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
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08 Oct 2006 12:47:05 PM |
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Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
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08 Oct 2006 01:04:43 PM |
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wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
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08 Oct 2006 03:45:54 PM |
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Marsha wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing? I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
Pramer
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08 Oct 2006 02:04:05 PM |
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wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument.
The discussion is the bold faced hypocricy of the Democrats.
The Democrats today are screaming bloody murder because a Republican
representative wrote pornographic chat messages to a paige, who was
probably setting him up.
There was nothing but indignation from the Democrats that a Democrat
Representative who was fucking a male paige.
Why the double standard?
Tu Quoque is where the guy making the case that it is wrong acts one way
to his own party, but another way towards the opposing party. Last I
checked, the Republicans had Foley resign. The did democrats make Studds
resign? Hell NO!! That proves hypocracy.
Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing? I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
Your hypocricy is noted.
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26 Oct 2006 06:44:00 PM |
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"Stuart Grey" <stuart.grey@mapson.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5uudnWxnW9wN7rTYnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Marsha wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument.
The discussion is the bold faced hypocricy of the Democrats.
So, why don't you bring some up, instead of hanging around Studds?
The Democrats today are screaming bloody murder because a Republican
representative wrote pornographic chat messages to a paige, who was
probably setting him up.
To a legally underage page, unlike Studds. A representative of a Party\
claiming "values" in its masthead. Funny you don't see the hypocrisy
under your nose...
There was nothing but indignation from the Democrats that a Democrat
Representative who was fucking a male paige.
Huh? Please retype, I think you made a mistake there.
Why the double standard?
What double standard?
Tu Quoque is where the guy making the case that it is wrong acts one way
to his own party, but another way towards the opposing party. Last I
checked, the Republicans had Foley resign. The did democrats make Studds
resign? Hell NO!! That proves hypocracy.
Different circumstances, AFAIK.
The truly ironic part was that Foley helped draft legislation making what
he did illegal...
Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing? I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
Your hypocricy is noted.
Is it?
Dan
The annoying thing is that this minor scandal is far more important
to most Americans than 6 years of Bush.
That sure explains 1932-1945.
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09 Oct 2006 11:41:16 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:04:05 -0400, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@mapson.comcast.net> wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Marsha wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument.
The discussion is the bold faced hypocricy of the Democrats.
Who set up Clinton with Lewinsky after all their other plans failed?
SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
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08 Oct 2006 04:43:34 PM |
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On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700, wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?
Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.
I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.
Sue
Pramer
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08 Oct 2006 09:19:31 PM |
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote on
Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700, wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?
Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.
I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.
I'm just appalled at the homophobic witch hunt the Democrats have
embarked upon, first outing a Gay_American, and then attempting to tar
anyone associated with him in their quest to expose homosexuals.
I think it is time for the Democrats to stop attempting to foist their
morality on the rest of the country.
tschus
pyotr
p.s. I've still yet to hear from the Democrat side what exactly is it about
homosexual men approaching young males that has them so all outraged and
judgmental.
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pyotr filipivich
It often seems the only way to make the Left open to the Rights ideas
....is with a shaped charge.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
10 Oct 2006 09:58:26 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:19:31 GMT, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote on
Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700, wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?
Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.
I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.
I'm just appalled at the homophobic witch hunt the Democrats have
embarked upon, first outing a Gay_American, and then attempting to tar
anyone associated with him in their quest to expose homosexuals.
What an ignorant lying ***** ***** you are.
I think it is time for the Democrats to stop attempting to foist their
morality on the rest of the country.
tschus
pyotr
p.s. I've still yet to hear from the Democrat side what exactly is it about
homosexual men approaching young males that has them so all outraged and
judgmental.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 01:15:00 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:19:31 GMT, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote on
Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700, wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?
Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.
I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.
I'm just appalled at the homophobic witch hunt the Democrats have
embarked upon, first outing a Gay_American, and then attempting to tar
anyone associated with him in their quest to expose homosexuals.
I think it is time for the Democrats to stop attempting to foist their
morality on the rest of the country.
tschus
pyotr
p.s. I've still yet to hear from the Democrat side what exactly is it about
homosexual men approaching young males that has them so all outraged and
judgmental.
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
Seems as though the Democrats USE gays for their own political purposes.
Again displaying their hypocrisy.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
09 Oct 2006 07:56:46 AM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in
news:55qji2h0emju0h0uu1fc8ppq9jgkr7ke05@4ax.com:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:19:31 GMT, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote on
Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700, wrote:
Marsha wrote:
wrote:
Marsha wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.
How long ago was that?
Pramer
Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?
Marsha/Ohio
No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?
Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.
I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.
It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.
I'm just appalled at the homophobic witch hunt the Democrats have
embarked upon, first outing a Gay_American, and then attempting to tar
anyone associated with him in their quest to expose homosexuals.
I think it is time for the Democrats to stop attempting to foist
their
morality on the rest of the country.
tschus
pyotr
p.s. I've still yet to hear from the Democrat side what exactly is it
about
homosexual men approaching young males that has them so all outraged and
judgmental.
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
"In 1993 Mary Cheney became one of the first employees of the
Colorado Rockies baseball team, working in promotions when the team
began playing in Denver. Thereafter she was a public relations manager
for the Coors Brewing Company and worked as a gay and lesbian outreach
coordinator, helping to end a national gay boycott of Coors"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Cheney
Mary Cheney has been "out" for decades. Don't you even TRY to
check you facts before making stupid claims and embarrassing yourself?
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