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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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How To Ensure Your Children's Safety |
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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09 Oct 2006 10:01:30 AM |
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Gunner wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
Seems as though the Democrats USE gays for their own political purposes.
Again displaying their hypocrisy.
Gunner
Only individuals who are uncomfortable with homosexuality would
consider Kerry mentioning it as "outing" someone. Gunner, you want all
homosexuals to crawl under rocks, or hide in closets, right? Well, so
long as it isn't your closet and your rock they are involved with.
Would you consider it "outing" someone if they were mentioned to be
single during a debate?
And give me a break about Democrats using this or that for political
purposes. What, is the GOP supposed to be the only ones who use things
for political purposes? Care to explain to me what part of a political
debate does NOT involve saying something or mentioning something for
political purposes?
Care to explain why Bill Clinton's trist with Monica was worthy of a
Ken Starr investigation? Oh, I see, he is a Democrat. Gotcha. I see,
HETEROSEXUALITY is a scandal issue, but homosexuality isn't. This is
why you get all edgy about Foley and ***** Cheney's daughter being
mentioned. You don't want them scandal. Actually you do want both
swept under the rug, because you know you wouldn't have power if you
evangelical base actually got a clue and then realized on sexual issue
there is not a shred of difference between the GOP and the Democrats.
For you, a supporter of the party of Ken Rove, to even dare speak of
saying that anyone else does anything "for political purposes" is
pathetic. It reaks of double standard whining. A whining Gunner!
Wow, what a concept. One would figure you would be more of a man than
whine about what is uses in politics.
- Richard Hutnik
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17 Oct 2006 04:50:57 PM |
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but wrote on 9 Oct
2006 08:01:30 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
Gunner wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
Seems as though the Democrats USE gays for their own political purposes.
Again displaying their hypocrisy.
Gunner
Only individuals who are uncomfortable with homosexuality would
consider Kerry mentioning it as "outing" someone. Gunner, you want all
homosexuals to crawl under rocks, or hide in closets, right? Well, so
long as it isn't your closet and your rock they are involved with.
Only those who are obsessed with who kisses who and where would get all
excited over the subject.
So Foley was talking dirty to pages. So what? Weren't the Democrats
advocates of free expression of sexuality, regardless of gender,
preferences or proclivity? I've yet to see a serious explanation for the
Democrat's sudden reversal of their vaunted "tolerance" for those who live
alternative lifestyles.
OTOH, the saying is of old, there is none so self-righteous as a
reformed *****; and while it is admirable to see the Democrats attempting
to embrace traditional values, they are still as shrill about it as they
ever were.
tschus
pyotr
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It often seems the only way to make the Left open to the Rights ideas
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| User: "Gunner" |
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09 Oct 2006 12:28:25 PM |
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On 9 Oct 2006 08:01:30 -0700, wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
Seems as though the Democrats USE gays for their own political purposes.
Again displaying their hypocrisy.
Gunner
Only individuals who are uncomfortable with homosexuality would
consider Kerry mentioning it as "outing" someone. Gunner, you want all
homosexuals to crawl under rocks, or hide in closets, right? Well, so
long as it isn't your closet and your rock they are involved with.
No. Why do I care what their gender preference is?
Would you consider it "outing" someone if they were mentioned to be
single during a debate?
As the DNC political wonk said when questioned after Kerrys attempt to
harm Chaney.."Mary Chaney is fair game".
Evidently it ment something to Kerry and Co. and in doing so...hoped it
would be a weapon against Cheney.
And give me a break about Democrats using this or that for political
purposes. What, is the GOP supposed to be the only ones who use things
for political purposes? Care to explain to me what part of a political
debate does NOT involve saying something or mentioning something for
political purposes?
So you DO think outing a gay is ok to be used as a weapon. Fascinating.
Evidently you and the rest of your ilk consider it noteworth and harmful
to the person being attacked. So all your rambling and spin still
points out that you admit this.
Care to explain why Bill Clinton's trist with Monica was worthy of a
Ken Starr investigation? Oh, I see, he is a Democrat. Gotcha. I see,
HETEROSEXUALITY is a scandal issue, but homosexuality isn't. This is
why you get all edgy about Foley and ***** Cheney's daughter being
mentioned. You don't want them scandal. Actually you do want both
swept under the rug, because you know you wouldn't have power if you
evangelical base actually got a clue and then realized on sexual issue
there is not a shred of difference between the GOP and the Democrats.
My evangelical base? Im Buddhist. I dont care who puts what where, or
licks or sticks what in wherever. On the other hand..I do think it a
major crime to lie under oath. Which is what Clinton was disbarred and
empeached over. So you think its ok to lie under oath? Is that your
claim, that its always ok to take an oath and then lie?
For you, a supporter of the party of Ken Rove, to even dare speak of
saying that anyone else does anything "for political purposes" is
pathetic. It reaks of double standard whining. A whining Gunner!
Wow, what a concept. One would figure you would be more of a man than
whine about what is uses in politics.
- Richard Hutnik
Only whining I see is from the Leftards about a man emailing and Iming
another adult. With no physical contact made. This is somehow worse then
fudgepacking a 17yr old boy, multiple rapes, and using a fat ugly chick
as a human humidore?
Interesting. Frankly I dont see what the big deal is. After all..it
wasnt even sex between consenting adults. And it wasnt like he had the
Arkansas state troopers pimping for him.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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09 Oct 2006 01:32:03 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
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a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
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rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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09 Oct 2006 12:08:38 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:32:03 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
Lying got them *this far, didn't it?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
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09 Oct 2006 07:16:11 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:32:03 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<i3rji2l4g65aq1pahb7a7u84du3tn7qhaq@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
I think you are misusing Neocon. That said, I don't understand why
they are so willing to lie so much. There is so much wrong with his
claim. First, Mary Cheney outed herself, she was out for years before
the election, before 2000 in fact. And it was not Kerry who said
anything about Mary Cheney anyway, it was Edwards who spoke of Mary
Cheney in the debate. And at the time ***** Cheney was polite and
thankful about how Edwards spoke of her: Edwards had *complimented"
Cheney and it was a nice exchange. It was only afterwards that the
Republican lie machine went to work to distort the entire action.
--
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09 Oct 2006 12:16:20 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:16:11 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:32:03 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<i3rji2l4g65aq1pahb7a7u84du3tn7qhaq@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
I think you are misusing Neocon. That said, I don't understand why
they are so willing to lie so much. There is so much wrong with his
claim. First, Mary Cheney outed herself, she was out for years before
the election, before 2000 in fact. And it was not Kerry who said
anything about Mary Cheney anyway, it was Edwards who spoke of Mary
Cheney in the debate. And at the time ***** Cheney was polite and
thankful about how Edwards spoke of her: Edwards had *complimented"
Cheney and it was a nice exchange. It was only afterwards that the
Republican lie machine went to work to distort the entire action.
Like what is real doesn't matter, but it's what people *think about
it.
SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
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09 Oct 2006 08:29:53 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:16:11 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
I think you are misusing Neocon. That said, I don't understand why
they are so willing to lie so much. There is so much wrong with his
claim. First, Mary Cheney outed herself, she was out for years before
the election, before 2000 in fact. And it was not Kerry who said
anything about Mary Cheney anyway, it was Edwards who spoke of Mary
Cheney in the debate. And at the time ***** Cheney was polite and
thankful about how Edwards spoke of her: Edwards had *complimented"
Cheney and it was a nice exchange. It was only afterwards that the
Republican lie machine went to work to distort the entire action.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1245102/posts
The third and final debate between President Bush and Senator Kerry, is
being appraised as a "knockout" win for George Bush. The President
managed to answer the questions with unwavering confidence, while
effectively labeling Kerry as an "out of the mainstream" liberal, during
last nights debate.
Kerry, undoubtedly, had his worst debate performance yet, is being
harshly criticized for "dirtying the pool" by bringing Mary
Cheney's(daughter of VP Cheney)sexuality to the forefront.
"We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to *****
Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being
who she was, she's being who she was born as," charged Kerry.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said, "It was a vicious
and revolting assault on a women who's only fault is being honest about
her sexuality." He then added that it was a "concerted effort" by the
Kerry campaign to expose Mary Cheney's sexuality for political purposes.
During the debate between Senator Edwards and ***** Cheney, Edwards made
reference to Cheney's daughter and called her "gay."
Fox news is reporting that their independent focus group, when hearing
Kerry gratuitously mention Mary's sexuality, gasped and responded very
negatively to the Senator's remarks.
So much for the Liberal spin.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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20 Oct 2006 11:21:26 AM |
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Gunner wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1245102/posts
The third and final debate between President Bush and Senator Kerry, is
being appraised as a "knockout" win for George Bush.
Hilarious!
Pramer
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22 Oct 2006 01:10:51 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
The third and final debate between President Bush and Senator Kerry, is
being appraised as a "knockout" win for George Bush. The President
managed to answer the questions with unwavering confidence, while
effectively labeling Kerry as an "out of the mainstream" liberal, during
last nights debate.
Ah, yes. Unwavering confidence. That was it.
More exactly he said, "well, ah, what I mean is, let me first say, ah,
it's hard, and ah, well, you know, we're working hard, and it's, ah,
real hard, ah.
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This following poem is composed entirely of actual quotes from George
W. Bush.
Make the Pie Higher
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen
And uncertainty
And potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the internet
Become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish
Can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope
Where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
Make the pie higher!
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W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
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22 Oct 2006 04:31:57 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:10:51 -0700, Winston Smith
<bogus@buttterfly.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
The third and final debate between President Bush and Senator Kerry, is
being appraised as a "knockout" win for George Bush. The President
managed to answer the questions with unwavering confidence, while
effectively labeling Kerry as an "out of the mainstream" liberal, during
last nights debate.
Ah, yes. Unwavering confidence. That was it.
More exactly he said, "well, ah, what I mean is, let me first say, ah,
it's hard, and ah, well, you know, we're working hard, and it's, ah,
real hard, ah.
=====
This following poem is composed entirely of actual quotes from George
W. Bush.
Make the Pie Higher
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen
And uncertainty
And potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the internet
Become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish
Can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope
Where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
Make the pie higher!
"You don't get everything you want. A
dictatorship would be a lot easier".
- George Bush, Governing Magazine,
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a
heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the
dictator".
- George Bush, CNN, December 18, 2000.
"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question
about it".
- George Bush, Business Week, July 30, 2001
"Anyway, after we go out and work our hearts out, after you
go out and help us turn out the vote, after we've convinced
the good Americans to vote, and while they're at it, pull
that old George W. lever, if I'm the one, when I put my hand
on the Bible, when I put my hand on the Bible, that day when
they swear us in, when I put my hand on the Bible, I will
swear to not to uphold the laws of the land."
-George W. Bush, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 27, 2000
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09 Oct 2006 09:13:25 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<2jjki2tebujmca3c7u41k9cjt3qb8n2ljl@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:16:11 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.
You mean during the dabate after the GOP National Convention when Mary
Chcney was seen with her girlfriend?
Why are you NeoCon such lying fuckers?
I think you are misusing Neocon. That said, I don't understand why
they are so willing to lie so much. There is so much wrong with his
claim. First, Mary Cheney outed herself, she was out for years before
the election, before 2000 in fact. And it was not Kerry who said
anything about Mary Cheney anyway, it was Edwards who spoke of Mary
Cheney in the debate. And at the time ***** Cheney was polite and
thankful about how Edwards spoke of her: Edwards had *complimented"
Cheney and it was a nice exchange. It was only afterwards that the
Republican lie machine went to work to distort the entire action.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1245102/posts
The third and final debate between President Bush and Senator Kerry, is
being appraised as a "knockout" win for George Bush. The President
managed to answer the questions with unwavering confidence, while
effectively labeling Kerry as an "out of the mainstream" liberal, during
last nights debate.
Kerry, undoubtedly, had his worst debate performance yet, is being
harshly criticized for "dirtying the pool" by bringing Mary
Cheney's(daughter of VP Cheney)sexuality to the forefront.
"We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to *****
Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being
who she was, she's being who she was born as," charged Kerry.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said, "It was a vicious
and revolting assault on a women who's only fault is being honest about
her sexuality."
So he said that. In what way was it an assault?
He then added that it was a "concerted effort" by the
Kerry campaign to expose Mary Cheney's sexuality for political purposes.
Yet Mary Cheney was out long before the election.
During the debate between Senator Edwards and ***** Cheney, Edwards made
reference to Cheney's daughter and called her "gay."
He made a complementary remark about how Cheney handled it. And Cheney
said thank you.
Fox news is reporting that their independent focus group, when hearing
Kerry gratuitously mention Mary's sexuality, gasped and responded very
negatively to the Senator's remarks.
So much for the Liberal spin.
Speaking of spin, you had said that Kerry outed her, now you say it
was gratuitous. Can you back up your original claim?
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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25 Oct 2006 06:28:06 PM |
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In article <v2mki29r7g2qthdqssopaupi715qbq58nd@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein said...
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said,
"It was a vicious and revolting assault on a women
who's only fault is being honest about her sexuality."
So he said that. In what way was it an assault?
I know several people who still misunderstand this issue. I
began to realize, after talking to them, that they did not and
perhaps could not comprehend how identifying someone as gay
might *not* be construed as an attack. These people are so
steeped in anti-gay thinking that they believe that mentioning a
person's homosexuality ipso facto constitutes an attempt to
disparage that person.
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:28:06 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <v2mki29r7g2qthdqssopaupi715qbq58nd@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein said...
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said,
"It was a vicious and revolting assault on a women
who's only fault is being honest about her sexuality."
So he said that. In what way was it an assault?
I know several people who still misunderstand this issue. I
began to realize, after talking to them, that they did not and
perhaps could not comprehend how identifying someone as gay
might *not* be construed as an attack. These people are so
steeped in anti-gay thinking that they believe that mentioning a
person's homosexuality ipso facto constitutes an attempt to
disparage that person.
Projection.
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:28:06 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <v2mki29r7g2qthdqssopaupi715qbq58nd@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein said...
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said,
"It was a vicious and revolting assault on a women
who's only fault is being honest about her sexuality."
So he said that. In what way was it an assault?
I know several people who still misunderstand this issue. I
began to realize, after talking to them, that they did not and
perhaps could not comprehend how identifying someone as gay
might *not* be construed as an attack. These people are so
steeped in anti-gay thinking that they believe that mentioning a
person's homosexuality ipso facto constitutes an attempt to
disparage that person.
Dem fags are ok, but Republican fags are not.
Is this a correct statement on the views of the Left?
Gunner
Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"
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27 Oct 2006 02:39:36 PM |
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Gunner wrote:
Dem fags are ok, but Republican fags are not.
Is this a correct statement on the views of the Left?
considering the utter hypocrisy of "republican fags"?
sure! youre surprised by this?
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:39:36 GMT, SoCalMike
<Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Dem fags are ok, but Republican fags are not.
Is this a correct statement on the views of the Left?
considering the utter hypocrisy of "republican fags"?
sure! youre surprised by this?
Not really..when I considered the hypocrisy of "democrat fags"...and
democrats in general.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.
"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message
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In article <v2mki29r7g2qthdqssopaupi715qbq58nd@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein said...
***** Morris, former advisor to President Clinton said,
"It was a vicious and revolting assault on a women
who's only fault is being honest about her sexuality."
So he said that. In what way was it an assault?
I know several people who still misunderstand this issue. I
began to realize, after talking to them, that they did not and
perhaps could not comprehend how identifying someone as gay
might *not* be construed as an attack. These people are so
steeped in anti-gay thinking that they believe that mentioning a
person's homosexuality ipso facto constitutes an attempt to
disparage that person.
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
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He then added that it was a "concerted effort" by the
Kerry campaign to expose Mary Cheney's sexuality for political purposes.
Yet Mary Cheney was out long before the election.
You're talking about common sense. Gunner was talking
about political campaigns. The two have very few points
of correspondence.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.
You missed the point: Cahill was talking about *making*
it relevant, packaging it as an anti-Republican weapon.
The fact that Mary Cheney was out about her sexuality
had nothing to do with Cahill's decision to try and make
a political issue about it. Cahill failed, mainly because
what she thought had shock value didn't...that doesn't
change the fact that Cahill thought of Mary Cheney's
lifestyle in terms of political attacks.
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Firelock on DALNet
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09 Oct 2006 11:35:59 PM |
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On 9 Oct 2006 13:55:37 -0700, wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<2jjki2tebujmca3c7u41k9cjt3qb8n2ljl@4ax.com> wrote:
He then added that it was a "concerted effort" by the
Kerry campaign to expose Mary Cheney's sexuality for political purposes.
Yet Mary Cheney was out long before the election.
You're talking about common sense. Gunner was talking
about political campaigns. The two have very few points
of correspondence.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.
You missed the point: Cahill was talking about *making*
it relevant, packaging it as an anti-Republican weapon.
The fact that Mary Cheney was out about her sexuality
had nothing to do with Cahill's decision to try and make
a political issue about it. Cahill failed, mainly because
what she thought had shock value didn't...that doesn't
change the fact that Cahill thought of Mary Cheney's
lifestyle in terms of political attacks.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
Sliversteen is too stupid to understand..so dont waste your breath (so
to speak) on explaining it to him. He will only start drifting off into
buffoonery.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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On 9 Oct 2006 13:55:37 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
in <1160427337.050733.196010@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:29:53 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<2jjki2tebujmca3c7u41k9cjt3qb8n2ljl@4ax.com> wrote:
He then added that it was a "concerted effort" by the
Kerry campaign to expose Mary Cheney's sexuality for political purposes.
Yet Mary Cheney was out long before the election.
You're talking about common sense. Gunner was talking
about political campaigns. The two have very few points
of correspondence.
After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."
It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.
You missed the point: Cahill was talking about *making*
it relevant, packaging it as an anti-Republican weapon.
You miss the point. Gunner copied something 6 times (likely an
accident) that had nothing at all to do with the discussion. Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
The fact that Mary Cheney was out about her sexuality
had nothing to do with Cahill's decision to try and make
a political issue about it.
Thank you very much for agreeing with me.
Cahill failed, mainly because
what she thought had shock value didn't...that doesn't
change the fact that Cahill thought of Mary Cheney's
lifestyle in terms of political attacks.
And it does not change the fact that Gunner was wrong and rather than
admitting he was wrong he changed the subject. I am not interested in
getting involved in a pointless discussion of the 2004 campaign, its
morality and effectiveness. I corrected an error of fact, one you
agree with me on.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
Cahill was Kerry's campaign manager at the time. Cahill's
actions and views are central to what "Kerry" (that is,
Kerry's campaign) was up to.
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney, based
on their erroneous assumption that most of ***** Cheney's
supporters would find it a surprise and be shocked by it.
Gunner is referring to the intent of the Kerry campaign,
the fact that the Kerry campaign was acting based on
foolish assumptions doesn't change the noxious and
hypocritical nature of their intent.
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Firelock on DALNet
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10 Oct 2006 01:14:43 PM |
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On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
Cahill was Kerry's campaign manager at the time. Cahill's
actions and views are central to what "Kerry" (that is,
Kerry's campaign) was up to.
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney, based
on their erroneous assumption that most of ***** Cheney's
supporters would find it a surprise and be shocked by it.
Gunner is referring to the intent of the Kerry campaign,
the fact that the Kerry campaign was acting based on
foolish assumptions doesn't change the noxious and
hypocritical nature of their intent.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
True indeed. And they (Dems) miscalculated. Cheney got a huge boost in
the sympathy vote for people who felt sorry for him, both for the
obvious attack and for having a lesbian daughter.
Dems will use ANY shitty trick and tactic, as well as lying and cheating
to accomplish their agendas. Which is why, if the People are so tired of
Bush..why are they NOT jumping on the Democrat bandwagon, and in fact,
even record numbers of Democrats are reregistering as Independants.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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10 Oct 2006 02:28:12 PM |
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On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
Cahill was Kerry's campaign manager at the time. Cahill's
actions and views are central to what "Kerry" (that is,
Kerry's campaign) was up to.
Sorry, but that still is a change of topic. Did or did not Kerry *out*
Mary Cheney? Not would he have or did he do something else, but did he
out her?
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney,
Really? According to the Wikipedia, and I don't feel like doing any
more research than that at the moment but you are free to present
contradicting evidence, Mary Cheney was well known to be a lesbian in
2000. She appeared at the inaugural with her partner in 2001. So how
could Kerry have outed her in 2004?
based
on their erroneous assumption that most of ***** Cheney's
supporters would find it a surprise and be shocked by it.
Your assertion of their goals is interesting, but it does not mean it
was their goal.
Gunner is referring to the intent of the Kerry campaign,
I see. So when he said Kerry did something it means that Kerry
intended to do it. And when he says that it means that he is making up
the intent since he (and you) have produced no evidence for Kerry
intending to *out* Mary Cheney. Now perhaps by "out" you mean "use
sexual orientation in a political manner". If so you should let us
know that you have made up a new meaning for a work.
the fact that the Kerry campaign was acting based on
foolish assumptions doesn't change the noxious and
hypocritical nature of their intent.
Nor does you making up things mean that Kerry actually intended
anything. Of course if you were actually concerned about any of this
you would mention Alan Keyes who called all homosexuals, including
Mary Cheney (by name) "selfish hedonists". I wish someone had asked
him about heterosexuals who have sex for pleasure.
So, again, do you have any evidence for Kerry having actually outed
Mary Cheney?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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In article <aisni2tkndo4ve28ndqtcn07tpdcof76ct@4ax.com> Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> writes:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
{...}
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney,
Really? According to the Wikipedia, and I don't feel like doing any
more research than that at the moment but you are free to present
contradicting evidence, Mary Cheney was well known to be a lesbian in
2000. She appeared at the inaugural with her partner in 2001. So how
could Kerry have outed her in 2004?
How? It was All Clinton's Fault, that's how.
Future Clinton War-Room plans include outing Candace Gingrich,
Jim Kolbe, and Chrissy Gephardt. Stay tuned.
-- cary
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <aisni2tkndo4ve28ndqtcn07tpdcof76ct@4ax.com> Matt
Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> writes:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
{...}
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney,
Really? According to the Wikipedia, and I don't feel like doing any
more research than that at the moment but you are free to present
contradicting evidence, Mary Cheney was well known to be a lesbian in
2000. She appeared at the inaugural with her partner in 2001. So how
could Kerry have outed her in 2004?
How? It was All Clinton's Fault, that's how.
Future Clinton War-Room plans include outing Candace Gingrich,
Jim Kolbe, and Chrissy Gephardt. Stay tuned.
Is there another choice? ROTFL
Something about glass houses is echoing in the halls of our nations capitol
righ about now.
It just wouldn't do for God's own party to reveal itself as the party of
steers and queers now would it.
Were Foley's behavior not so repulsive this entire thing would be the
laughable hypocrasy of the decade.
"So for a party that crusades against gay marriage and welcomes voters that
consider homosexuality a sin or a disease, headlines about a gay Republican
congressman lusting after underage male congressional pages are a problem.
The emerging outlines of a coverup -- allegations that the Republican
speaker of the House, or at least his aides, got wind of Foley's little
problem months or years ago -- are an even bigger problem."
"And it will come as a surprise to some religious conservatives that so many
Republicans involved in the scandal are gay -- Foley; his former aide Kirk
Fordham; a former clerk of the House, Jeff Trandahl. The Post reported
yesterday that Rep. Jim Kolbe of Arizona, the one openly gay Republican
congressman, saw "inappropriate" e-mail correspondence between Foley and
young pages as long ago as 2000."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/09/AR2006100901037.html
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John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.
"John R. Carroll" <jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote in message
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <aisni2tkndo4ve28ndqtcn07tpdcof76ct@4ax.com> Matt
Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> writes:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
{...}
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney,
Really? According to the Wikipedia, and I don't feel like doing any
more research than that at the moment but you are free to present
contradicting evidence, Mary Cheney was well known to be a lesbian in
2000. She appeared at the inaugural with her partner in 2001. So how
could Kerry have outed her in 2004?
How? It was All Clinton's Fault, that's how.
Future Clinton War-Room plans include outing Candace Gingrich,
Jim Kolbe, and Chrissy Gephardt. Stay tuned.
Is there another choice? ROTFL
Something about glass houses is echoing in the halls of our nations
capitol
righ about now.
It just wouldn't do for God's own party to reveal itself as the party of
steers and queers now would it.
Were Foley's behavior not so repulsive this entire thing would be the
laughable hypocrasy of the decade.
"So for a party that crusades against gay marriage and welcomes voters
that
consider homosexuality a sin or a disease, headlines about a gay
Republican
congressman lusting after underage male congressional pages are a problem.
The emerging outlines of a coverup -- allegations that the Republican
speaker of the House, or at least his aides, got wind of Foley's little
problem months or years ago -- are an even bigger problem."
"And it will come as a surprise to some religious conservatives that so
many
Republicans involved in the scandal are gay -- Foley; his former aide Kirk
Fordham; a former clerk of the House, Jeff Trandahl. The Post reported
yesterday that Rep. Jim Kolbe of Arizona, the one openly gay Republican
congressman, saw "inappropriate" e-mail correspondence between Foley and
young pages as long ago as 2000."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/09/AR2006100901037.html
--
John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <aisni2tkndo4ve28ndqtcn07tpdcof76ct@4ax.com> Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> writes:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
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{...}
Kerry's campaign attempted to "out" Mary Cheney,
Really? According to the Wikipedia, and I don't feel like doing any
more research than that at the moment but you are free to present
contradicting evidence, Mary Cheney was well known to be a lesbian in
2000. She appeared at the inaugural with her partner in 2001. So how
could Kerry have outed her in 2004?
How? It was All Clinton's Fault, that's how.
Future Clinton War-Room plans include outing Candace Gingrich,
Jim Kolbe, and Chrissy Gephardt. Stay tuned.
-- cary
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
Cahill was Kerry's campaign manager at the time. Cahill's
actions and views are central to what "Kerry" (that is,
Kerry's campaign) was up to.
Sorry, but that still is a change of topic. Did or did not Kerry *out*
Mary Cheney? Not would he have or did he do something else, but did he
out her?
In further news, Matt Silberstein argues on what the definition
of "is" is.
Play your word games, Matt, if it makes you feel better. Your
heroes tried to use someone's sexual orientation as a weapon
while pretending to be the party of tolerance, so I can see how
you'd need every bit of feelgood you can hang on to.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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On 10 Oct 2006 13:31:51 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160512311.041171.96820@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 06:46:53 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
firelock_ny@hotmail.com in
<1160488013.908211.127180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
Gunner
made the claim that Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Now he wants to change
the topic to tactics in the 2004 election. Cahill's actions and views
are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Kerry outed
Mary Cheney.
Cahill was Kerry's campaign manager at the time. Cahill's
actions and views are central to what "Kerry" (that is,
Kerry's campaign) was up to.
Sorry, but that still is a change of topic. Did or did not Kerry *out*
Mary Cheney? Not would he have or did he do something else, but did he
out her?
In further news, Matt Silberstein argues on what the definition
of "is" is.
No, we are arguing over what the word "out" means.
Play your word games, Matt, if it makes you feel better.
Word games? Is that what you call it when a lie is uncovered? Gunner
said out, you defended out, and it just ain't so. She was out for
years before Kerry said a thing.
Your
heroes tried to use someone's sexual orientation as a weapon
while pretending to be the party of tolerance, so I can see how
you'd need every bit of feelgood you can hang on to.
As I have said several times, I was just dealing with the one issue,
the false statement from Gunner. Play all the games you want, that
will not make the claim correct.
--
Matt Silberstein
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"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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