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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 08 Oct 2006 11:46:52 AM
Object: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety
A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans
-----
Yang
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
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soc.history.what-if
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 10:06:31 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:05:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
<8e3mi2l5ki8uifo0sfssgf2t4a9qr1ot9s@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:18:46 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:34:49 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<lfnki2t88n9iuommc2kc2p9c091m353g84@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



[snip]

Speaking of spin, you had said that Kerry outed her, now you say it
was gratuitous. Can you back up your original claim?


When do NeoCon traitors back up anything with facts?


While not liking them any more than you do I wish you would
re-consider your use of "NeoCon" as a synonym for conservative or some
such. The Neocons are a reasonably (as reasonably as anything such in
politics) well defined group and that definition mostly has to do with
foreign policy. The Neocons differed from old-time conservatives by
their "willingness" (assertive desire) to project U.S. influence/force
in other countries. Old-time conservatives were pretty much
isolationists. For them the Cold War was an anomaly and, when that was
over, they wanted to go home.
[snip]



I agree with you on this. My ire lies not with the paleocons

Except to the extent that they enabled the neocons in their absurd and
incompetent adventures abroad.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 10:46:17 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:06:31 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:05:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
<8e3mi2l5ki8uifo0sfssgf2t4a9qr1ot9s@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:18:46 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:34:49 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<lfnki2t88n9iuommc2kc2p9c091m353g84@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



[snip]

Speaking of spin, you had said that Kerry outed her, now you say it
was gratuitous. Can you back up your original claim?


When do NeoCon traitors back up anything with facts?


While not liking them any more than you do I wish you would
re-consider your use of "NeoCon" as a synonym for conservative or some
such. The Neocons are a reasonably (as reasonably as anything such in
politics) well defined group and that definition mostly has to do with
foreign policy. The Neocons differed from old-time conservatives by
their "willingness" (assertive desire) to project U.S. influence/force
in other countries. Old-time conservatives were pretty much
isolationists. For them the Cold War was an anomaly and, when that was
over, they wanted to go home.
[snip]



I agree with you on this. My ire lies not with the paleocons


Except to the extent that they enabled the neocons in their absurd and
incompetent adventures abroad.

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2749 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.
User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 11 Oct 2006 04:07:02 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:46:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<km5mi21lrgkgc0670nl7us7e8lib9fm4fb@4ax.com> wrote:
[snip]

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.

So you don't have a problem with the paleo-con desire to control
sexuality and reproduction and speech. And their desire to allow
destruction of the environment.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 15 Oct 2006 10:32:35 PM
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:07:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:46:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<km5mi21lrgkgc0670nl7us7e8lib9fm4fb@4ax.com> wrote:

[snip]

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.



So you don't have a problem with the paleo-con desire to control
sexuality and reproduction and speech. And their desire to allow
destruction of the environment.

I guess depends on who you consider paleocons, Pat Buchanan is a
moron, but Barry Goldwater wasn't the anti-freedom types.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2759 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 15 Oct 2006 10:46:20 PM
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:35 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
<68v5j2trvjatf28j78049hjq2omb3mem91@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:07:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:46:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<km5mi21lrgkgc0670nl7us7e8lib9fm4fb@4ax.com> wrote:

[snip]

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.



So you don't have a problem with the paleo-con desire to control
sexuality and reproduction and speech. And their desire to allow
destruction of the environment.


I guess depends on who you consider paleocons, Pat Buchanan is a
moron, but Barry Goldwater wasn't the anti-freedom types.

Would the Republicans have any use for a new Goldwater, Ford, or
(paranoia free) Nixon?
What I've never understood is why there are gays willing to work for
people who routinely vent their anti-gay bigotry to keep Republicans
voting for anti-gay bigots.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 18 Oct 2006 10:44:40 AM
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:46:20 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:35 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
<68v5j2trvjatf28j78049hjq2omb3mem91@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:07:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:46:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<km5mi21lrgkgc0670nl7us7e8lib9fm4fb@4ax.com> wrote:

[snip]

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.



So you don't have a problem with the paleo-con desire to control
sexuality and reproduction and speech. And their desire to allow
destruction of the environment.


I guess depends on who you consider paleocons, Pat Buchanan is a
moron, but Barry Goldwater wasn't the anti-freedom types.


Would the Republicans have any use for a new Goldwater, Ford, or
(paranoia free) Nixon?

What I've never understood is why there are gays willing to work for
people who routinely vent their anti-gay bigotry to keep Republicans
voting for anti-gay bigots.

Self-loathing and hatred.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 16 Oct 2006 08:15:12 AM
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:35 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<68v5j2trvjatf28j78049hjq2omb3mem91@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:07:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:46:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<km5mi21lrgkgc0670nl7us7e8lib9fm4fb@4ax.com> wrote:

[snip]

I guess I should qualify that statement. My primary ire lies with the
NeoCons, not with the paleo-cons. My ire with the paleo-cons at this
points might be slightly above my ire against the spineless Dems, but
they both are nowhere near my ire with the NeoCons.



So you don't have a problem with the paleo-con desire to control
sexuality and reproduction and speech. And their desire to allow
destruction of the environment.


I guess depends on who you consider paleocons, Pat Buchanan is a
moron, but Barry Goldwater wasn't the anti-freedom types.

My point was the policies, not the people.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.





User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 12:40:22 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:18:46 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:34:49 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<lfnki2t88n9iuommc2kc2p9c091m353g84@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



[snip]

Speaking of spin, you had said that Kerry outed her, now you say it
was gratuitous. Can you back up your original claim?


When do NeoCon traitors back up anything with facts?


While not liking them any more than you do I wish you would
re-consider your use of "NeoCon" as a synonym for conservative or some
such. The Neocons are a reasonably (as reasonably as anything such in
politics) well defined group and that definition mostly has to do with
foreign policy. The Neocons differed from old-time conservatives by
their "willingness" (assertive desire) to project U.S. influence/force
in other countries. Old-time conservatives were pretty much
isolationists. For them the Cold War was an anomaly and, when that was
over, they wanted to go home.
[snip]

To the ignorant populists on the Left..generally victims of a Liberal
run school system..all such words are simply insults, spewn by mindless
gnorms, like Downs children saying bad words, because they heard someone
else saying them, without having a clue what those actually mean.
Others to include Police State, Fascists, Nazis and so forth.
If there was any truth behind those words..they would already have been
on their way to the Camps, or disappeared after a midnight knock on the
door.
But they continue to use buzzwords simply because they know that
somehow, deep in the twisted morass of their tiny skulls filled with
mush, that they are Bad Words and as such..are Powerful.
Chortle..but as usual..adults find them pitiful.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.
User: "chibiabos"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 10 Oct 2006 04:50:45 PM
In article <fp1li29dpuat6jh4n0jjf4djtda36sttil@4ax.com>, Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:18:46 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


While not liking them any more than you do I wish you would
re-consider your use of "NeoCon" as a synonym for conservative or some
such. The Neocons are a reasonably (as reasonably as anything such in
politics) well defined group and that definition mostly has to do with
foreign policy. The Neocons differed from old-time conservatives by
their "willingness" (assertive desire) to project U.S. influence/force
in other countries. Old-time conservatives were pretty much
isolationists. For them the Cold War was an anomaly and, when that was
over, they wanted to go home.
[snip]


To the ignorant populists on the Left..generally victims of a Liberal
run school system..all such words are simply insults, spewn by mindless
gnorms, like Downs children saying bad words, because they heard someone
else saying them, without having a clue what those actually mean.
Others to include Police State, Fascists, Nazis and so forth.

Let us not forget words like "Liberal" and "Left," capitalized very
much like the initial letter in "Limbaugh," no slouch in the ignorant
populist department.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.
User: "gamer"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney(GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 10 Oct 2006 04:56:39 PM
chibiabos wrote:



Let us not forget words like "Liberal" and "Left," capitalized very
much like the initial letter in "Limbaugh," no slouch in the ignorant
populist department.

-chib



Someone recently told me Limbaugh was still on radio - talk about your
father's Oldsmobile..................
.
User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 10 Oct 2006 11:26:36 PM
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:56:39 -0400, gamer <edc4h@cox.net> wrote:

chibiabos wrote:



Let us not forget words like "Liberal" and "Left," capitalized very
much like the initial letter in "Limbaugh," no slouch in the ignorant
populist department.

-chib



Someone recently told me Limbaugh was still on radio - talk about your
father's Oldsmobile..................

And AirHeadAmerica is in bankruptcy.....snicker
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.




User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 10:03:44 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.

So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?
Denial is not a river in Egypt.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 10:12:00 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:44 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.


So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?

Liberals aren't the ones trying to criminalize gays, you NeoCon *****.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 10:20:59 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:44 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<r2pki2h96e3d164c02t2ha646egm87bhm1@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


You made an unmarked snip here. You snipped out where you failed to
defend your claim, instead changing the subject.

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.


So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?

It was irrelevant to the discussion. Nor, as it happens, was their any
use of her orientation as a weapon. I know you snipped it out, but
Edwards was complementary towards the Cheney's and Cheney was thankful
during the debate.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

No, it is also your primary methodology.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 12:57:41 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:20:59 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:44 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<r2pki2h96e3d164c02t2ha646egm87bhm1@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


You made an unmarked snip here. You snipped out where you failed to
defend your claim, instead changing the subject.

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.


So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?


It was irrelevant to the discussion. Nor, as it happens, was their any
use of her orientation as a weapon. I know you snipped it out, but
Edwards was complementary towards the Cheney's and Cheney was thankful
during the debate.

So during a conversation with your employer, I happen to mention that
you are a fudge packer and the door prize each Saturday night at the
local gay bathhouse..you are a nice guy. Im sure your boss will thank me
for the compliment..then start taking a real hard look at you and if you
are a liability or an asset. See..he is not real accepting of
fudgepackers..one of those unenlightened sorts. Like many voters on the
Right, due to their religious beliefs. And many on the Left as well,
given the huge numbers of Democrats who voted against gay marriage
actually. Personally..I frankly dont give a ***** what your gender
orientation is. Shrug. But then..Im one of those enlightened
compassionate conservatives you Leftards hate so much.


Denial is not a river in Egypt.


No, it is also your primary methodology.

Actually..my methodology is finding chinks in your armor..then
exploiting them to the fullest, while providing legitimate citations
that demonstrate both your hypocrisy and your buffoonery. Sort of like
hammering a knife into an oyster then prying it open, to show what a
rotten mass of festering tissue is inside that hard closed shell. Never
a pearl, just puss.
But thanks for again for demonstrating both hypocrisy and buffoonery of
the Left, for all the readers.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.
User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 01:24:02 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:57:41 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<7d2li21aol3dnso323r73ka9c7v7hj4ovt@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:20:59 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:44 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<r2pki2h96e3d164c02t2ha646egm87bhm1@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


You made an unmarked snip here. You snipped out where you failed to
defend your claim, instead changing the subject.

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.


So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?


It was irrelevant to the discussion. Nor, as it happens, was their any
use of her orientation as a weapon. I know you snipped it out, but
Edwards was complementary towards the Cheney's and Cheney was thankful
during the debate.


So during a conversation with your employer, I happen to mention that
you are a fudge packer and the door prize each Saturday night at the
local gay bathhouse..you are a nice guy. Im sure your boss will thank me
for the compliment..then start taking a real hard look at you and if you
are a liability or an asset. See..he is not real accepting of
fudgepackers..one of those unenlightened sorts. Like many voters on the
Right, due to their religious beliefs. And many on the Left as well,
given the huge numbers of Democrats who voted against gay marriage
actually. Personally..I frankly dont give a ***** what your gender
orientation is. Shrug. But then..Im one of those enlightened
compassionate conservatives you Leftards hate so much.

Wow, that was one incoherent passage.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.


No, it is also your primary methodology.


Actually..my methodology is finding chinks in your armor..then
exploiting them to the fullest, while providing legitimate citations
that demonstrate both your hypocrisy and your buffoonery.

So, then, provide "legitimate citations" to your original claim, that
Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Not multiple changes of topic, but that
claim.
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: NeoCon Traitor "Gunner" Lie of the Day: Kerry "Outed" Mary Cheney (GOP=Grand Old Pedophiles) 09 Oct 2006 11:34:36 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:24:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:57:41 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<7d2li21aol3dnso323r73ka9c7v7hj4ovt@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:20:59 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:44 GMT, in alt.atheism , Gunner
<gunner@lightspeed.net> in
<r2pki2h96e3d164c02t2ha646egm87bhm1@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:13:25 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


You made an unmarked snip here. You snipped out where you failed to
defend your claim, instead changing the subject.

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."

After the debate, Chris Wallace asked Mary Beth Cahill, John Kerry's
Campaign Manager, about Kerry alluding to ***** Cheney's daughters sexual
orientation, she said that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game."


It was irrelevant the first time, six times does not make it relevant.


So its not relevant that the Left considers a persons gender preference
a legitimate weapon against a family member?


It was irrelevant to the discussion. Nor, as it happens, was their any
use of her orientation as a weapon. I know you snipped it out, but
Edwards was complementary towards the Cheney's and Cheney was thankful
during the debate.


So during a conversation with your employer, I happen to mention that
you are a fudge packer and the door prize each Saturday night at the
local gay bathhouse..you are a nice guy. Im sure your boss will thank me
for the compliment..then start taking a real hard look at you and if you
are a liability or an asset. See..he is not real accepting of
fudgepackers..one of those unenlightened sorts. Like many voters on the
Right, due to their religious beliefs. And many on the Left as well,
given the huge numbers of Democrats who voted against gay marriage
actually. Personally..I frankly dont give a ***** what your gender
orientation is. Shrug. But then..Im one of those enlightened
compassionate conservatives you Leftards hate so much.


Wow, that was one incoherent passage.

Tsk tsk..pitiful. You are not just ignorant, but stupid as well.


Denial is not a river in Egypt.


No, it is also your primary methodology.


Actually..my methodology is finding chinks in your armor..then
exploiting them to the fullest, while providing legitimate citations
that demonstrate both your hypocrisy and your buffoonery.


So, then, provide "legitimate citations" to your original claim, that
Kerry outed Mary Cheney. Not multiple changes of topic, but that
claim.

I already did. You didnt like them..or were unable to understand the big
words. Pity.
Gunner

[snip]

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.





User: ""

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 09 Oct 2006 12:07:36 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:19:31 GMT, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote on
Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT in misc.survivalism :

On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700,

wrote:


Marsha wrote:

wrote:

Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.



How long ago was that?

Pramer


Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?

Marsha/Ohio


No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing?


Possibly. If they're good at covering up, who knows? It may be that
they just haven't gotten caught recently. It's just a matter of time.

I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.


It amuses me to watch everyone point the finger as though nearly every
politician regardless of party isn't scum. It's just a matter of
degree and I don't believe that either party has a lock on the worst
of the worst. Whatever the scandal de jour is there will be another
coming along soon and no one should get too smug about the "purity" of
the members of their party.


I'm just appalled at the homophobic witch hunt the Democrats have
embarked upon, first outing a Gay_American, and then attempting to tar
anyone associated with him in their quest to expose homosexuals.

I think it is time for the Democrats to stop attempting to foist their
morality on the rest of the country.


tschus
pyotr

p.s. I've still yet to hear from the Democrat side what exactly is it about
homosexual men approaching young males that has them so all outraged and
judgmental.



Dont forget that Kerry made a deliberate attempt to Out Cheney's lesbian
daughter as well during the campaigns.

And it isn't hypocritical for Cheney to work up an anti gay persona
for political gain while hiding one in his own closet? Letting voters
assume, like too many stupid people will, that he and his family are
the epitome of heterosexual bigoted pretended chastity because it gets
more votes? Taking advantage of that many mentally challenged but
otherwise worthwhile voters? That's worse than an outright lie. Worse
than "I didn't have sex with that woman".
DAMMIT it's not the perceived crime it's the cover up that is worse.
On any side.
Like any large collection of random text, the Bible does have some
accidental strings of characters that add up: like who is without sin
throw the first stone. Another random assemblage that happened to
match up English words is: before complaining about the splinter on
someone's eye, deal with the beam in your own.
Get a fucking real perspective and don't get caught up in henpecking.
There are real issues, like blood in the streets of Iraq we need to
zoom in on, and let's judge the pols by what they do with that instead
of what their personal sins are. Chances are, if we get the warmongers
out, we will drastically increase the number of actual really human
people in the US Government. That would be a start.


Seems as though the Democrats USE gays for their own political purposes.
Again displaying their hypocrisy.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 09 Oct 2006 11:48:13 AM
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:43:34 GMT, Sue <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote:

On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700,

wrote:


Marsha wrote:

wrote:

Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.



How long ago was that?

Pramer


Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?

Sometimes I think they create scandals to cover up the *real down and
dirty *****.
SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 09 Oct 2006 11:39:14 AM
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700,
wrote:


Marsha wrote:

wrote:

Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.



How long ago was that?

Pramer


Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?

Marsha/Ohio


No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing? I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.

Pramer

And which side has amassed a larger total of sins? Remember, the
Clinton administration must have been the most heavily investigated
one and all they found was a *****. And some think he lied about it
but even if I give you that one, that's two, compared to myriad lies
and the short circuiting of the Constitution committed by the Bush
syndicate that makes the Mafia look like a litter of newborn kittens.
(if there really was a Mafia)
SunYata ! from Earth, watching America.
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 03:49:31 PM
On 8 Oct 2006 13:45:54 -0700,
wrote:


Marsha wrote:

wrote:

Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.



How long ago was that?

Pramer


Is that relevant? Was it ever acceptable?

Marsha/Ohio


No, it never was acceptable. However, by relying on ancient misdeeds of
"the other side" to attempt to justify what your guy has done, you
weaken your argument. Are Democrats *currently* or in the very recent
past involved in covering up this kind of thing? I suspect that there
are very few of the people involved in the Studds case still in
positions of power.

Pramer

Shorter GOP: It's okay for enator Macaca to be a racist because a
Democrat supported slavery in 1860!
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.

User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 02:18:41 PM
On 8 Oct 2006 10:47:05 -0700,
wrote:


Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:

A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.


How long ago was that?

Pramer

Studs retired from Congress in 96.
What does how long ago have to do with anything? There is no statute of
limitation on Democrat Hypocrisy.
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.
User: ""

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 03:49:03 PM
Gunner wrote:

On 8 Oct 2006 10:47:05 -0700,

wrote:


Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:

A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.


How long ago was that?

Pramer


Studs retired from Congress in 96.

What does how long ago have to do with anything? There is no statute of
limitation on Democrat Hypocrisy.

Yes, there is. If the politicians involved are no longer in congress,
then you are talking about different people. The sins of the fathers
are *not* visited on the sons.
Pramer
.
User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 09 Oct 2006 01:12:33 AM
On 8 Oct 2006 13:49:03 -0700,
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

On 8 Oct 2006 10:47:05 -0700,

wrote:


Marsha wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:

A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.


How long ago was that?

Pramer


Studs retired from Congress in 96.

What does how long ago have to do with anything? There is no statute of
limitation on Democrat Hypocrisy.


Yes, there is. If the politicians involved are no longer in congress,
then you are talking about different people. The sins of the fathers
are *not* visited on the sons.

Pramer

So then if a Republican gets caught doing far less than a Democrat..its
not the fault of all the rest of the Republicans? Be sure to remind
the rest of your ilk that.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.



User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 12:48:32 PM
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:25:12 -0400, Marsha <mas@ves.org> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:

A) Keep them away from Catholic priests
B) Keep them away from Republicans
C) Keep them away from Catholic Republicans


Both sides have skeletons. You forgot about Democrat
Gerry Studds and his 17-year-old male page. And those
wonderful people in Martha's Vineyard, who saw fit to
re-elect this icon of decency five times thereafter.

LOL! I've seen this rightwing talking point recycled over and over.
Let's see, In reposnse to all the GOPedophiles, all you can muster is
a 24 year old story that doesn't even involve an underage minor? If
that really is the case then the Democrats are leaps and bounds more
moral than the GOP or the Catholic Church
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from
Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him
flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative
Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a
13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres
confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on
suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has
repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling
a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex
with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of
an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for
sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted
child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence
in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child
pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of
soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years
in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with
molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran
church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual
act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded
guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a
bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old
girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced
to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom
appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties
at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual
photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of
sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty
to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five
years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest
for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay
bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the
drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after
the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to
exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a
14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found
guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual
assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his
two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30
months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography
was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate
Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of
soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in
prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed
reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage
girls.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation"
Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced
to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development
Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography
on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard
A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen,
62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1
million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt
of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
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User: "Marsha"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 04:38:52 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


Let's see, In reposnse to all the GOPedophiles, all you can muster is
a 24 year old story that doesn't even involve an underage minor?

He was underage.
Marsha/Ohio
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: How To Ensure Your Children's Safety 08 Oct 2006 10:18:35 PM
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:38:52 -0400, Marsha <mas@ves.org> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
wrote:


Let's see, In reposnse to all the GOPedophiles, all you can muster is
a 24 year old story that doesn't even involve an underage minor?


He was underage.

Indeed, as many GOP victims are
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from
Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him
flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative
Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a
13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres
confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on
suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has
repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling
a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex
with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of
an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for
sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted
child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence
in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child
pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of
soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years
in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with
molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran
church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual
act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded
guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a
bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old
girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced
to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom
appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties
at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual
photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of
sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty
to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five
years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest
for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay
bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the
drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after
the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to
exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a
14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found
guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual
assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his
two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30
months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography
was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate
Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of
soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in
prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed
reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage
girls.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation"
Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced
to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development
Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography
on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard
A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen,
62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1
million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt
of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2737 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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