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07 Sep 2005 04:54:33 PM |
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How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
CHANCE OF PREGNANCY PER YEAR (assuming 80-100 sex acts)
..........................................................................Typical.use.......Perfect.use
A) Use a condom, and pull out before you *****. 1 in 1,975 1 in 125,000
B) Use condoms and birth control together. 1 in 6,666 1 in 1,665,000
C) If she is on the pill, and you don't have a condom on - pull out
before you *****. 1 in 3,704 1 in 833,333
(to stay healthy, ascertain she has no diseases before fucking).
D) If she's not on the pill and you don't have a condom, it's probably
best to wait.... so carry condoms.
Compare the above methods to any of the below methods to see the
difference:
Typical use Perfect use
Pull out by itself 1 in 3.7 1 in 25
No method 1 in 1.18 1 in 1.18
Condoms by themselves 1 in 6.7 1 in 50
Birth control by itself 1 in12.5 1 in 333
vasectomy 1 in 1000 1 in 1000
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
IUD from 1/125 to 1/1000 depending on the IUD.
If you don't want to pull out or use condoms, you may want to consider
using birth control and a diaphragm together:
1 in 6,250 1 in 555,555
(Diaphragm by itself) 1 in 6.25 1 in 16.7
Condoms can be bought online at
http://www.condomdepot.com and your local drugstore and grocery store.
Condoms cost from .15 cents to $1.50 a piece. Many STD clinics and
health centers have condoms for free.
I recommend the crown skinless skin condom for better sensation:
http://www.condomdepot.com/products/crown-skinless.htm
Just for fun:
Condoms, Birth Control, and Pull-out together:
Typical use Perfect Use
1 in 1,975,308 1 in 4,166,666,667, that's 1 in 4 billion
Perhaps all teenage boys should be told:
Always use condoms and pull out!
And perhaps all teenage girls should be told:
Always use condoms and birth control!
And perhaps high schools should provide birth control services to teen
girls, because without help from their parents, the girls would have to
go to the doctor by themselves, and somehow use whatever health
insurance their parents have to help pay for the prescription pills and
their appointment.
At the same time, high school health services could provide testing for
the five STD's which can be tested for:
HIV
Herpes (blood test)
Gonorrhea
Chlamydia
Syphilis
If all students are given a wallet size business card to carry with
them after testing, this could act as a prophylactic device, proving
health, and preventing infection from those diseases.
And the high school health services could also provide information on
the other 7 STD's which are:
Genital Warts (HPV)
Nongonococcal urethritis (NGU)
Trichomoniasis/Vaginitis
Molluscum Contagiosum
Crabs
Scabies
Chancroid
And encourage anyone with symptoms or a positive test result to contact
their primary physician for a diagnosis and treatment.
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| User: "scan38" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
09 Sep 2005 07:36:56 AM |
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<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
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B) Use condoms and birth control together.
What does this mean? Condoms ARE a form of "birth control". It seems to be
assuming that "birth control" is some other (unspecified) form of
contraception. Or wishful thinking. Or abortion. Or something.
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
09 Sep 2005 05:04:06 PM |
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:36:56 +1000, "scan38" <scan38@federal.com.au>
wrote:
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1126112073.069119.317580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
B) Use condoms and birth control together.
What does this mean? Condoms ARE a form of "birth control". It seems to be
assuming that "birth control" is some other (unspecified) form of
contraception. Or wishful thinking. Or abortion. Or something.
Condoms are a great deal of protection from unwanted pregnancies, as
well as from STD's. The only sure method is abstinence, which protect
you from both, but it' sure as hell a poor substitute for a good sex
life. Condoms and birth control is like wearing suspenders and a belt
to keep your pants up.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
09 Sep 2005 09:21:51 PM |
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In talk.atheism robpar <robpar@airmaildelete.net> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:36:56 +1000, "scan38" <scan38@federal.com.au>
wrote:
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1126112073.069119.317580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
B) Use condoms and birth control together.
What does this mean? Condoms ARE a form of "birth control". It seems to be
assuming that "birth control" is some other (unspecified) form of
contraception. Or wishful thinking. Or abortion. Or something.
Condoms are a great deal of protection from unwanted pregnancies, as
well as from STD's. The only sure method is abstinence, which protect
you from both, but it' sure as hell a poor substitute for a good sex
life. Condoms and birth control is like wearing suspenders and a belt
to keep your pants up.
As "par" for the course, robpar doesn't read what's written.
Robpar, condoms ARE a form of birth control (as was pointed out in the
message that you replied to.) So what you said (as well as the OP) was
basically "wearing suspenders and a 'pants-holding device' to hold up your
pants" or "using a leather strap with buckles that fits around your waist
and a belt to hold your pants up." It should have read "use condoms and some
OTHER form of birth control together."
--
Mike
W hat atheism: a non-prophet organization...
W ould
J enna
D rink?
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Creation Science: an oxymoron actually created by morons...
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Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you
do criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes.
-------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we," George W. "Shrub" Bush Aug 5, 2004
-------------------------------
The only product that Micro$oft could produce that *wouldn't* suck would be a
vacuum cleaner..
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
10 Sep 2005 03:34:16 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:21:51 GMT, wrote:
In talk.atheism robpar <robpar@airmaildelete.net> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:36:56 +1000, "scan38" <scan38@federal.com.au>
wrote:
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1126112073.069119.317580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
B) Use condoms and birth control together.
What does this mean? Condoms ARE a form of "birth control". It seems to be
assuming that "birth control" is some other (unspecified) form of
contraception. Or wishful thinking. Or abortion. Or something.
Condoms are a great deal of protection from unwanted pregnancies, as
well as from STD's. The only sure method is abstinence, which protect
you from both, but it' sure as hell a poor substitute for a good sex
life. Condoms and birth control is like wearing suspenders and a belt
to keep your pants up.
As "par" for the course, robpar doesn't read what's written.
Robpar, condoms ARE a form of birth control (as was pointed out in the
message that you replied to.) So what you said (as well as the OP) was
basically "wearing suspenders and a 'pants-holding device' to hold up your
pants" or "using a leather strap with buckles that fits around your waist
and a belt to hold your pants up." It should have read "use condoms and some
OTHER form of birth control together."
As usual you nit pick, of course condoms are a form of birth
control, other than abstinence the oldest still in use. However the
others (chemical) pills, gels, foam, IUD's Etc. do not protect from
S.T.D.s. Abstinence, is the only 100% effective, so to be prudent,
condoms at about 95% effective should be used as a back up.
It's prudent to have a extra level of protection, a plan B.
I do read what's written, I just don't nit pick poor choices of
words.
You really need to do some thing about your tight *****, school
teacher mentality.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
10 Sep 2005 08:47:32 PM |
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In talk.atheism robpar <robpar@airmaildelete.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:21:51 GMT, wrote:
In talk.atheism robpar <robpar@airmaildelete.net> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:36:56 +1000, "scan38" <scan38@federal.com.au>
wrote:
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1126112073.069119.317580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
B) Use condoms and birth control together.
What does this mean? Condoms ARE a form of "birth control". It seems to be
assuming that "birth control" is some other (unspecified) form of
contraception. Or wishful thinking. Or abortion. Or something.
Condoms are a great deal of protection from unwanted pregnancies, as
well as from STD's. The only sure method is abstinence, which protect
you from both, but it' sure as hell a poor substitute for a good sex
life. Condoms and birth control is like wearing suspenders and a belt
to keep your pants up.
As "par" for the course, robpar doesn't read what's written.
Robpar, condoms ARE a form of birth control (as was pointed out in the
message that you replied to.) So what you said (as well as the OP) was
basically "wearing suspenders and a 'pants-holding device' to hold up your
pants" or "using a leather strap with buckles that fits around your waist
and a belt to hold your pants up." It should have read "use condoms and some
OTHER form of birth control together."
As usual you nit pick, of course condoms are a form of birth
control, other than abstinence the oldest still in use.
No, as usual, you don't read (or at least pay attention to) what's written
and then try to blame the other person. You'd be the type to tell a cop "oh,
you're just nitpicking" when he pulls you over for rolling through a stop
sign doing 5mph. Well, would you be nitpicking if he then started beating
you with his nightstick and only slowed down when you asked him to stop?
However the
others (chemical) pills, gels, foam, IUD's Etc. do not protect from
S.T.D.s.
No-one said they do. Even the OP was talking about pregnancy rates with
various forms of birth control.
Abstinence, is the only 100% effective, so to be prudent,
condoms at about 95% effective should be used as a back up.
It's prudent to have a extra level of protection, a plan B.
I do read what's written, I just don't nit pick poor choices of
words.
You really need to do some thing about your tight *****, school
teacher mentality.
No, robpar, you've repeatedly shown how you don't read what's written. In
another thread, you repeatedly showed that in replies both to me and to
others (where you "misread" such things as "the bulk of..." as being "all
of..." or repeatedly throwing up strawmen of my position even when it was
clearly stated, etc.)
YOU need to learn how to read what others say and then address that instead
of just ignoring it or trying to blame the other person when you finally
can't ignore it anymore. And if the problem is that you just can't
use english any better then maybe you just need to go back to school. It's
not a matter of me being a tight ***** but that you just seem to ignore
anything that is said, period. And a decent grasp of english isn't THAT hard
to master.
--
Mike
W hat atheism: a non-prophet organization...
W ould
J enna
D rink?
-------------------------------
Creation Science: an oxymoron actually created by morons...
-------------------------------
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you
do criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes.
-------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we," George W. "Shrub" Bush Aug 5, 2004
-------------------------------
The only product that Micro$oft could produce that *wouldn't* suck would be a
vacuum cleaner..
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
07 Sep 2005 07:02:15 PM |
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wrote:
CHANCE OF PREGNANCY PER YEAR (assuming 80-100 sex acts)
.........................................................................Typical.use.......Perfect.use
A) Use a condom, and pull out before you *****. 1 in 1,975 1 in 125,000
B) Use condoms and birth control together. 1 in 6,666 1 in 1,665,000
C) If she is on the pill, and you don't have a condom on - pull out
before you *****. 1 in 3,704 1 in 833,333
(to stay healthy, ascertain she has no diseases before fucking).
D) If she's not on the pill and you don't have a condom, it's probably
best to wait.... so carry condoms.
Compare the above methods to any of the below methods to see the
difference:
Typical use Perfect use
Pull out by itself 1 in 3.7 1 in 25
No method 1 in 1.18 1 in 1.18
Condoms by themselves 1 in 6.7 1 in 50
Birth control by itself 1 in12.5 1 in 333
vasectomy 1 in 1000 1 in 1000
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
IUD from 1/125 to 1/1000 depending on the IUD.
If you don't want to pull out or use condoms, you may want to consider
using birth control and a diaphragm together:
1 in 6,250 1 in 555,555
(Diaphragm by itself) 1 in 6.25 1 in 16.7
Condoms can be bought online at
http://www.condomdepot.com and your local drugstore and grocery store.
Condoms cost from .15 cents to $1.50 a piece. Many STD clinics and
health centers have condoms for free.
I recommend the crown skinless skin condom for better sensation:
http://www.condomdepot.com/products/crown-skinless.htm
Just for fun:
Condoms, Birth Control, and Pull-out together:
Typical use Perfect Use
1 in 1,975,308 1 in 4,166,666,667, that's 1 in 4 billion
Perhaps all teenage boys should be told:
Always use condoms and pull out!
And perhaps all teenage girls should be told:
Always use condoms and birth control!
And perhaps high schools should provide birth control services to teen
girls, because without help from their parents, the girls would have to
go to the doctor by themselves, and somehow use whatever health
insurance their parents have to help pay for the prescription pills and
their appointment.
At the same time, high school health services could provide testing for
the five STD's which can be tested for:
HIV
Herpes (blood test)
Gonorrhea
Chlamydia
Syphilis
If all students are given a wallet size business card to carry with
them after testing, this could act as a prophylactic device, proving
health, and preventing infection from those diseases.
And the high school health services could also provide information on
the other 7 STD's which are:
Genital Warts (HPV)
Nongonococcal urethritis (NGU)
Trichomoniasis/Vaginitis
Molluscum Contagiosum
Crabs
Scabies
Chancroid
And encourage anyone with symptoms or a positive test result to contact
their primary physician for a diagnosis and treatment.
Or you could just have sex with a different girl, instead of the one in
question. This would create a similar problem regarding someone else,
but at least it's fool proof.
~Iain
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
07 Sep 2005 11:24:32 PM |
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tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective if
there's a countersuit involved?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
08 Sep 2005 02:15:13 PM |
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"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became pregnant.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
08 Sep 2005 09:33:30 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became pregnant.
Yes, but that's tubal ligation, not litigation.
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
08 Sep 2005 05:02:12 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in 200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became pregnant.
Did it actually say that, or was it a general-purpose form given to all
patients saying something like "If this doesn't work, I won't sue",
which in your case just happened to apply to an operation that
absolutely cannot fail?
~Iain
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
08 Sep 2005 05:15:30 PM |
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"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126195797.026199.15600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in
200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document
saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became
pregnant.
Did it actually say that, or was it a general-purpose form given to all
patients saying something like "If this doesn't work, I won't sue",
which in your case just happened to apply to an operation that
absolutely cannot fail?
More the general-purpose form. And tubal ligations CAN fail, though more in
the sense that there have been cases where somehow the tubes were able to
rejoin. Apparently this commonly happens about one year after the
operation. However, I've seen the results of my operation (internal
pictures - urk) and not only were these things tied, the ends were
cauterized, so it's highly unlikely they'd find a way to get back together,
as it were.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Skeptic" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
08 Sep 2005 08:38:23 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3oba0lF4t88qU1@individual.net...
"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126195797.026199.15600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in
200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective
if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document
saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became
pregnant.
Did it actually say that, or was it a general-purpose form given to all
patients saying something like "If this doesn't work, I won't sue",
which in your case just happened to apply to an operation that
absolutely cannot fail?
More the general-purpose form. And tubal ligations CAN fail, though more
in
the sense that there have been cases where somehow the tubes were able to
rejoin. Apparently this commonly happens about one year after the
operation. However, I've seen the results of my operation (internal
pictures - urk) and not only were these things tied, the ends were
cauterized, so it's highly unlikely they'd find a way to get back
together,
as it were.
Oh, but they can :)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: How to have sex and not get the girl pregnant |
09 Sep 2005 02:16:51 AM |
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"Skeptic" <bcs002b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3j1Ue.93923$084.8719@attbi_s22...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3oba0lF4t88qU1@individual.net...
"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126195797.026199.15600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:dfnsrh01074@enews2.newsguy.com...
essentialsexinfo3@rock.com wrote:
tubal litigation 1 in 200 1 in
200
Ummmm. I'm unclear on this one.
Do you sue the tubes, or do the tubes sue you? Is it more effective
if
there's a countersuit involved?
All I know is that when I had my tubes tied, I had to sign a document
saying
I wouldn't sue the doctor if they retied themselves and I became
pregnant.
Did it actually say that, or was it a general-purpose form given to all
patients saying something like "If this doesn't work, I won't sue",
which in your case just happened to apply to an operation that
absolutely cannot fail?
More the general-purpose form. And tubal ligations CAN fail, though more
in
the sense that there have been cases where somehow the tubes were able to
rejoin. Apparently this commonly happens about one year after the
operation. However, I've seen the results of my operation (internal
pictures - urk) and not only were these things tied, the ends were
cauterized, so it's highly unlikely they'd find a way to get back
together,
as it were.
Oh, but they can :)
Don't I know it. However, being 44 and starting perimenopause, I think it's
highly unlikely I'd get pregnant ;)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "" |
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09 Sep 2005 11:32:02 AM |
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