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How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
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How Not To Win The War On Terror (keep exporting abortion and sex ed)
RightBias News ^ | 3-16-07 | Steven Mosher
Posted on 03/16/2007 4:48:06 AM PDT by nancyvideo
Dinesh D'Souza's new book, The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and
Its Responsibility for 9/11, has Michael Moore frothing at the
mouth.For D'Souza's thesis is that Moore and others of his ilk have
"fostered a decadent American culture that angers and repulses
traditional societies, especially those in the Islamic world, that are
being overwhelmed with this culture."
Moreover, they are "waging an aggressive global campaign
to undermine the traditional patriarchal family and to promote secular
values in non-Western cultures." Thus they are--in part--responsible
for the rise of Islamic terrorism against the West.
The Cultural Left, without apology for its relentless promotion of
abortion, sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, divorce and other
"rights" at home and abroad, has dismissed his book out of hand. If
you want to talk culpability for terrorist attacks, Moore and others
say, it was America's "lust for oil" and "neo-colonialism" that were
responsible. These ridiculous assertions--America doesn't import its
oil from colonies, but buys it on the open market--have nonetheless
hardened into Leftist dogma.
The Right, which might have been expected to embrace D'Souza's thesis,
has reacted coolly as well. Libertarians, who in general have little
time for tradition, are unlikely candidates for cross-national
coalitions in support of the natural family or life. Even cultural
conservatives, who may be just as angered and repulsed by what they
see issuing from Hollywood and their television sets as a devout
Muslim, are skeptical.
Many, such as Robert Spencer, believe that terrorism is latent within
Islam. Spencer argues that statements made by Mohammed about
Christians and Jews, the whole notion of jihad that he set in motion,
and the historic relegation of non-Muslims to dhimmi, or second-class,
status, all
contain the seed of violence, which can sprout at any time. Islamic
aggression, which several times took it into the very heart of Europe,
occurred many centuries before America, much less the cultural Left,
even existed.
But it is possible to agree that radical Muslims hate us based on
their reading of the Koran, and at the same time acknowledge that the
recent and widespread antipathy towards America among Muslims in
general gains strength from other currents as well. In pointing out
that the Cultural
Left's unceasing advocacy of abortion, sexual promiscuity,
homosexuality and divorce at home and abroad has raised hackles in the
Muslim world, D'Souza has illuminated an important truth.
Most Americans don't understand that this advocacy is not merely an
incidental byproduct of the private sector, but is part and parcel of
our foreign aid program. If Egyptians, for example, chose to
patronize trashy Hollywood productions noteworthy primarily for their
sex, violence, and bad language, then they have no grounds for
complaint. But when Iraqi youths turn on their radios and listen to
the vulgar lyrics of rap songs broadcast into their country by Radio
Sawa, paid for by U.S. taxpayers, then we as a people can rightly be
blamed.
The worst abuses are found in government-funded population control
programs. The United States, both directly and through international
institutions like the World Bank, has been exporting various social
pathologies into relatively innocent and untouched corners of the
world
for going on 40 years now under the guise of "family planning" and
"reproductive health." Billions of dollars a year are being poured
into programs that promote abortion, fund coercive sterilization and
contraceptive campaigns, reach into the schools with pornographic sex
education programs, fund anti-family and anti-child radio and
television programs, undermine primary health care, and encourage
governments to intrude into the private lives of their citizens. Such
programs create bitter resentment in Muslim and non-Muslim countries
alike, as we at PRI
have documented over and over again.
Let me be clear: It is not because women in the West have abortions
and premarital sex that bin Laden and his pals attacked us. They were
bent on violence in any case.
But the promotion by the U.S. and other "modern democracies" of
abortion, divorce, adultery, and premarital sex in Muslim countries
cannot help but generate sympathy and new recruits for those who would
attack the "Great Satan." One can understand the resentment of even
moderate Muslims when Western-funded population controllers come
knocking at the door of their houses, bearing their human pesticides
and insisting that their wives be rendered sterile. Or their
righteous anger when their young child arrive home from school with a
pornographic sex ed booklet, funded by a grant from USAID.
If our foreign aid programs have been hijacked by the Cultural Left,
what is to be done? D'Souza writes that, "As conservatives, we should
export our America. That means introducing in places in Iraq the
principles of self-government, majority rule, minority rights, free
enterprise, and religious toleration. But we must stop exporting the
cultural left's America. That means we should stop insisting on
radical secularism, stop promoting the feminist conception of the
family, stop trying to promote abortion and "sex education," and we
should try and halt the export of the
vulgar and corrupting elements of our popular culture."
One can deplore the burka and at the same time recognize that we as a
nation are doing deliberate violence to the values and family
structure of developing countries. If we want to win the war on
terror, we'd better stop making enemies in this way.
Steven Mosher is President of the Population Research Institute.
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26 Mar 2007 12:03:47 AM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46072562$0$14103$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46070f0a$0$14070$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801781/posts
How Not To Win The War On Terror (keep exporting abortion and sex
ed)
Terrorists are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and anti-sex.
Which is what he was telling you.
You and the Catholic church are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and
anti-sex.
The same people who support pro-choice and homosexuality are
terroristic,
Like you, terrorist wannabe?
Wannabe?
if you weren't too lazy and too much of a ***** to get up and make
something of yourself.
Like the rapist and child molesters
Your allegiance is with them.
YOU are defending them, pervert.
and clinic bombers you cheer?
A contradiction in your assessment is noted.
YOU advocate terrorism, loser.
Like the genocidal nazis you want to
emulate?
Pro-Choicers and gays?
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 12:08:34 AM |
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In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46072562$0$14103$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46070f0a$0$14070$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801781/posts
How Not To Win The War On Terror (keep exporting abortion and sex
ed)
Terrorists are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and anti-sex.
Which is what he was telling you.
You and the Catholic church are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and
anti-sex.
The same people who support pro-choice and homosexuality are
terroristic,
Like you, terrorist wannabe?
Wannabe?
if you weren't too lazy and too much of a ***** to get up and make
something of yourself.
Like the rapist and child molesters
Your allegiance is with them.
YOU are defending them, pervert.
and clinic bombers you cheer?
A contradiction in your assessment is noted.
YOU advocate terrorism, loser.
Like the genocidal nazis you want to
emulate?
Pro-Choicers and gays?
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
Seems more that you want to claim that I want to so you can do it.
Seems like you are asking for my approval so you can begin killing them.
Why is it you always need someone to tell you you can do something?
Are you less of a man than me?
Is everything in your book, "Thou shall not" while you are doing it yourself
rather than "Thou can if I do it"?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 01:56:46 AM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46072562$0$14103$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46070f0a$0$14070$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801781/posts
How Not To Win The War On Terror (keep exporting abortion and sex
ed)
Terrorists are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and anti-sex.
Which is what he was telling you.
You and the Catholic church are anti-abortion, anti-freedom, and
anti-sex.
The same people who support pro-choice and homosexuality are
terroristic,
Like you, terrorist wannabe?
Wannabe?
if you weren't too lazy and too much of a ***** to get up and make
something of yourself.
Like the rapist and child molesters
Your allegiance is with them.
YOU are defending them, pervert.
and clinic bombers you cheer?
A contradiction in your assessment is noted.
YOU advocate terrorism, loser.
Like the genocidal nazis you want to
emulate?
Pro-Choicers and gays?
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You forget your own words, loser.
Seems more that you want to claim that I want to so you can do it.
Seems that you're insane.
Seems like you are asking for my approval so you can begin killing them.
Seems that you want to kill people.
Why is it you always need someone to tell you you can do something?
Why are you such a desperate ***** bigot?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 05:19:34 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:08:34 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You're the one who said you had a right to kill them, not Ray.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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26 Mar 2007 06:56:44 PM |
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In news:tlhg03d94pcvl14gnaplo5bcp8s25qulfp@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:08:34 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You're the one who said you had a right to kill them, not Ray.
If you are so ignorant that you do not know that you have a right to kill
via self-defense then why are you responding to me?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 07:37:32 PM |
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:tlhg03d94pcvl14gnaplo5bcp8s25qulfp@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:08:34 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You're the one who said you had a right to kill them, not Ray.
If you are so ignorant that you do not know that you have a right to kill
via self-defense then why are you responding to me?
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing someone you
deemed to be homosexual...which means about a 99% probability that you'd kill
a heterosexual.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Omaha 10, Houston 2 (March 24)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 30 vs. Peoria, 7:35
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 07:41:33 PM |
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In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:tlhg03d94pcvl14gnaplo5bcp8s25qulfp@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:08:34 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You're the one who said you had a right to kill them, not Ray.
If you are so ignorant that you do not know that you have a right to
kill via self-defense then why are you responding to me?
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
which means about a 99%
probability that you'd kill a heterosexual.
Anything you say is irrelevant.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
Your problem is you don't agree with the law that is designed to protect the
population against you gooney idiot fuckfailure ***** disease assholes and
thieves.
You just don't get it.
How is it that I never killed anyone and that I don't plan on it like you
pro-choicers and gays plan on it?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
26 Mar 2007 07:59:52 PM |
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:tlhg03d94pcvl14gnaplo5bcp8s25qulfp@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:08:34 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:46075433$0$14113$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
YOU want to murder all homosexuals. Just like the nazis.
Now, you know that isn't true.
You're the one who said you had a right to kill them, not Ray.
If you are so ignorant that you do not know that you have a right to
kill via self-defense then why are you responding to me?
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
which means about a 99%
probability that you'd kill a heterosexual.
Anything you say is irrelevant.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
Free clue: The last time I was in your county was in 1970...when your brother
was still alive, years before he was infected.
Your problem is you don't agree with the law that is designed to protect the
population against you gooney idiot fuckfailure ***** disease assholes and
thieves.
Keep on piling up the libel.
You just don't get it.
How is it that I never killed anyone and that I don't plan on it like you
pro-choicers and gays plan on it?
So, I'm gay because I'm pro-choice? Have fun explaining *that* "logic" to a
court...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Omaha 10, Houston 2 (March 24)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 30 vs. Peoria, 7:35
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| User: "Pinch" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 08:17:40 AM |
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On Mar 26, 8:41 pm, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
How is it that I never killed anyone...
This is exactly what you're doing when support cracked positions like
anti-choice, anti-sex perversions, and the like.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
27 Mar 2007 11:07:41 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
which means about a 99%
probability that you'd kill a heterosexual.
Anything you say is irrelevant.
Talking to yourself again.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you in
an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible for
you to escape. A gay man raping you isn't doing anything that will
result in your immediate death, so all he's guilty of, AT VERY WORST,
is depraved indifference manslaughter - for which NO state imposes the
death penalty.
Your problem is you don't agree with the law that is designed to protect the
population against you gooney idiot fuckfailure ***** disease assholes and
thieves.
YOU'RE the one not agreeing with the law that PROHIITS YOU from
killing someone whose IMMEDIATE action won't result in your death AT
THAT TIME.
You just don't get it.
Still talking to yourself.
How is it that I never killed anyone and that I don't plan on it like you
pro-choicers and gays plan on it?
You've already admitted that you DO plan on it, but you have nothing
on which to base your slander.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
28 Mar 2007 01:30:12 AM |
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In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
which means about a 99%
probability that you'd kill a heterosexual.
Anything you say is irrelevant.
Talking to yourself again.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you in
an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible for
you to escape.
*****, you idiot.
That is a predatorial and uncivilized viewpoint you have there.
Everyone in the entire USA is qualified to kill anyone attacks them if it
causes the person who is being attacked enough anger to kill the assailant.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making yourself
look like the predator.
IDIOT!
A gay man raping you
Is worthy of death.
isn't doing anything that will result in your immediate death,
Immaterial.
Killing a person who attempts to rape another man or woman is perferctly
acceptable to ward off an unwated attacker and infection.
so all he's guilty of, AT VERY WORST,
is depraved indifference manslaughter - for which NO state imposes the
death penalty.
The right to use of lethal force is justified when used against men who are
attempting to rape someone.
Your problem is you don't agree with the law that is designed to
protect the population against you gooney idiot fuckfailure *****
disease assholes and thieves.
YOU'RE the one not agreeing with the law that PROHIITS YOU from
killing someone whose IMMEDIATE action won't result in your death AT
THAT TIME.
Not at all.
I am telling you that the right to the use of lethal force is justified in
warding off rapists.
You just don't get it.
Still talking to yourself.
How is it that I never killed anyone and that I don't plan on it
like you pro-choicers and gays plan on it?
You've already admitted that you DO plan on it,
Where is this plan you assume I have?
but you have nothing
on which to base your slander.
What slander, rapist defender's bagboy?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
29 Mar 2007 10:34:55 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:12 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion of
killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense. After
a;;, you've as much as claimed that you'd kill any man standing behind
you because you'd believe that he's an HIV-infected homosexual trying
to rape you.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you in
an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible for
you to escape.
*****, you idiot.
Calling the law *****, John? Or just making sure that you'll be
let off on an insanity defense?
That is a predatorial and uncivilized viewpoint you have there.
Everyone in the entire USA is qualified to kill anyone attacks them if it
causes the person who is being attacked enough anger to kill the assailant.
Sorry, no. You're REQUIRED by the law to try to escape the attempt.
The ONLY time you're justified in using deadly force (which is any
force at all that results in death) is when your life is IMMEDIATELY
ion danger by your assailant's use of deadly force.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making yourself
look like the predator.
Being insane doesn't make you prey, or give you any right to kill.
A gay man raping you
Is worthy of death.
Not in this country. *NO* jurisdiction penalizes rape with the death
sentence, because that would violate the Constitution.
isn't doing anything that will result in your immediate death,
Immaterial.
Completely material, because that's the ONLY time the law allows you
to kill.
Killing a person who attempts to rape another man or woman is perferctly
acceptable to ward off an unwated attacker and infection.
Maybe perfectly acceptable to you but completely illegal. Even if he
tries to kill you outright, you can only kill him if you have NO OTHER
recourse.
so all he's guilty of, AT VERY WORST,
is depraved indifference manslaughter - for which NO state imposes the
death penalty.
The right to use of lethal force is justified when used against men who are
attempting to rape someone.
Not in ANY jurisdiction in the US, only in your fantasy, which isn't
admissible.
YOU'RE the one not agreeing with the law that PROHIITS YOU from
killing someone whose IMMEDIATE action won't result in your death AT
THAT TIME.
Not at all.
I am telling you that the right to the use of lethal force is justified in
warding off rapists.
And I'm telling you that the law says it isn't. No one cares what
your opinion is - if the opinion of a sane person isn't admissible,
the opinion of an insane person certainly isn't.
You just don't get it.
Still talking to yourself.
How is it that I never killed anyone and that I don't plan on it
like you pro-choicers and gays plan on it?
You've already admitted that you DO plan on it,
Where is this plan you assume I have?
On Google, for any ADA to print out and use as evidence at your trial.
but you have nothing
on which to base your slander.
What slander, rapist defender's bagboy?
THAT slander.
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30 Mar 2007 08:00:20 AM |
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In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:12 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion of
killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the other
cops did to me.
They slipped, I didn't.
After a;;, you've as much as claimed that you'd kill any man standing
behind
you because you'd believe that he's an HIV-infected homosexual trying
to rape you.
I never said that, you idiot.
You are a liar, and, you are only defending criminal ideas designed to
subject the people to jeopardy.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you
in an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible
for you to escape.
*****, you idiot.
Calling the law *****, John?
No. Tellin you your statement is a lie.
Or just making sure that you'll be
let off on an insanity defense?
No path of escape is not a requirement, you fool.
If you attack me I can kill you in self-defense, legally.
There doesn't need to be no path of escape for me to use lethal force
against an attacker.
Now, you have no escape.
You are trapped, and you aren't even being threatened.
What you gonna do now?
Are you going to pipe down and behave or are you going to risk your life
and/or someone else's life and become guilty for major crimes against the
public?
That is a predatorial and uncivilized viewpoint you have there.
Everyone in the entire USA is qualified to kill anyone attacks them
if it causes the person who is being attacked enough anger to kill
the assailant.
Sorry, no.
Apologizing to me is ok.
But, your disagreement is rejected by me and by the people and by the law.
You're REQUIRED by the law to try to escape the attempt.
Not at all, you fool.
Self-defense places no such requirement upon people who are attacked.
Your are spewing treasonous propaganda.
The ONLY time you're justified in using deadly force (which is any
force at all that results in death) is when your life is IMMEDIATELY
ion danger by your assailant's use of deadly force.
And, I determine to be at risk fo deadly force if someone attacks me.
Especially if the person who attacks me is carrying weaponry as was the cas
when the IDIOT COP named Giovanni attacked me and the hoarde of cops who
beat me subsequent to my complewtely legal self-defense actions.
Thing is, idiot.
WIth me in charge you MUST behave or you will get the full force of the law
and the people smahed into your face.
LOL!
I love docilizing, dominating, commanding, shaming, punishing idiots such as
you.
It is so much fun.
The way I play is fun.
The way you play is like snailshit underwater.
You are a slow creature who no one fears.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making
yourself look like the predator.
Being insane doesn't make you prey, or give you any right to kill.
You are who is insane, idiot.
Read the statement again, you predatorial idiot.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making
yourself look like the predator.
You are assessed by your words.
If you exhibit behavior that confirms you as a predator you will be
punished.
A gay man raping you
Is worthy of death.
Not in this country.
Wrongo, idiot.
It is accepted all over the world.
Your lies are unaccepted any where on earth.
*NO* jurisdiction penalizes rape with the death
sentence, because that would violate the Constitution.
It wouldn't violate the Constitution, you predatorial loser ***** criminally
unjust insane loon.
Killing an attacker is perfectly legal.
Your resistance to defending people against attackers makes you a
predatorially-minded person.
[enough of your predatorial idiocy]
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 09:12:38 AM |
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:12 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include killing
someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion of
killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
....just like you were "no threat" to the officers who arrested you.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the other
cops did to me.
They slipped, I didn't.
Could you do the rest of us the favor of shutting up, eating a .45, and
putting us out of your misery? That's the road you're choosing.
After a;;, you've as much as claimed that you'd kill any man standing
behind you because you'd believe that he's an HIV-infected homosexual
trying to rape you.
I never said that, you idiot.
You are a liar, and, you are only defending criminal ideas designed to
subject the people to jeopardy.
You don't speak for "the people", idiot. You're a brain-damaged psychotic.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you
in an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible
for you to escape.
*****, you idiot.
Calling the law *****, John?
No. Tellin you your statement is a lie.
You might want to ask someone to show you where your definition departs from
reality.
Or just making sure that you'll be
let off on an insanity defense?
No path of escape is not a requirement, you fool.
If you attack me I can kill you in self-defense, legally.
There doesn't need to be no path of escape for me to use lethal force
against an attacker.
Really? That's how it works here in Texas. (Not that I'm worried about the
possibility of you showing up here. You have trouble enough figuring out how
to cross a street.)
Now, you have no escape.
You are trapped, and you aren't even being threatened.
What you gonna do now?
Are you going to pipe down and behave or are you going to risk your life
and/or someone else's life and become guilty for major crimes against the
public?
That's what you want to do.
That is a predatorial and uncivilized viewpoint you have there.
Everyone in the entire USA is qualified to kill anyone attacks them
if it causes the person who is being attacked enough anger to kill
the assailant.
Sorry, no.
Apologizing to me is ok.
But, your disagreement is rejected by me and by the people and by the law.
You speak for no one but yourself - and even that, badly.
You're REQUIRED by the law to try to escape the attempt.
Not at all, you fool.
Self-defense places no such requirement upon people who are attacked.
Your are spewing treasonous propaganda.
Keep babbling, Wentzkyloon! You'll be saving the court and the state a lot of
time and money on your case, as once it comes to trial, the jury will return a
"not guilty by reason of insanity" verdict in a small number of minutes.
The ONLY time you're justified in using deadly force (which is any
force at all that results in death) is when your life is IMMEDIATELY
ion danger by your assailant's use of deadly force.
And, I determine to be at risk fo deadly force if someone attacks me.
Especially if the person who attacks me is carrying weaponry as was the cas
when the IDIOT COP named Giovanni attacked me and the hoarde of cops who
beat me subsequent to my complewtely legal self-defense actions.
Armed cops? That's called common sense.
Thing is, idiot.
WIth me in charge you MUST behave or you will get the full force of the law
and the people smahed into your face.
LOL!
Quit munching the chocolate acid.
I love docilizing, dominating, commanding, shaming, punishing idiots such as
you. It is so much fun. The way I play is fun. The way you play is like
snailshit underwater. You are a slow creature who no one fears.
You're going to be a box of ashes dumped into a hole, with (if you're
incredibly lucky) a headstone. You left the building long ago.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making
yourself look like the predator.
Being insane doesn't make you prey, or give you any right to kill.
You are who is insane, idiot.
Read the statement again, you predatorial idiot.
There is no way to reduce the rights of the prey without making
yourself look like the predator.
You are assessed by your words.
If you exhibit behavior that confirms you as a predator you will be
punished.
....by a certified lunatic who will likely be segregated from normal society
for the rest of his life.
A gay man raping you
Is worthy of death.
Not in this country.
Wrongo, idiot.
It is accepted all over the world.
Your lies are unaccepted any where on earth.
Wentzky flips out; no film at 10.
*NO* jurisdiction penalizes rape with the death
sentence, because that would violate the Constitution.
It wouldn't violate the Constitution, you predatorial loser ***** criminally
unjust insane loon.
Killing an attacker is perfectly legal.
Your resistance to defending people against attackers makes you a
predatorially-minded person.
[enough of your predatorial idiocy]
Free clue, Whackjob Wentzky: you don't get Internet in prison. (Or at the
state funny farm, either.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Omaha 10, Houston 2 (March 24)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 30 vs. Peoria, 7:35
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 09:33:55 AM |
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In news:szkzm5uddm1.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:12 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include
killing someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion
of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone
using your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
...just like you were "no threat" to the officers who arrested you.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the
other cops did to me.
They slipped, I didn't.
Could you do the rest of us the favor of shutting up, eating a .45,
and putting us out of your misery? That's the road you're choosing.
Hey, idiot.
It is YOU who is in misery, you idiot.
I am hammering these god damnable piece of ***** criminal acts that were
committed against me down to the lowest spot I want to hammer them down to,
you idiot.
Any resistance whatsoever will only render more guilt anmd misery and
problems on anyone who goes against me in this.
They cops are guilty on multiple counts.
The false warrants that Giovanni swore to and the Negro judge affirmed were
manufactured on Janurary 9, 2007.
The incident occurred on January 8.
There is NO WAY on earth than I am going to be punished in any way because
of their illlegal crimes and fraud they committed against me.
I can legally pressure anyone who goes against me in this until I am
satisfied.
Cower in fear you idiot criminal cowards.
You can not escape the wrath of Wentzky until you make amends to me.
Any more false moves you make against me will be punished.
Believe it.
You are free to lay down your weapons and to resign from your jobs.
I am not living in fear of you criminal ***** breathed idiots.
And, I am not required to live in fear of any of you either.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 10:02:50 AM |
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:szkzm5uddm1.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:12 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:q7qj03ddplf2ijr19ektf5cgdrdh1rbo3f@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:41:33 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:szk1wjbbjxv.fsf@eris.io.com,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@eris.io.com> typed:
Of course, your definition of "self-defense" would include
killing someone you deemed to be homosexual...
I don't defend myself against people who don't attack me.
Of course your definition of "attack" is he's male, near you and
smaller than you.
How do I know how big someone is when they attack me from behind?
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion
of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone
using your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
...just like you were "no threat" to the officers who arrested you.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the
other cops did to me.
They slipped, I didn't.
Could you do the rest of us the favor of shutting up, eating a .45,
and putting us out of your misery? That's the road you're choosing.
Hey, idiot.
It is YOU who is in misery, you idiot.
Not likely. (I've got a wife, and a life. I'm not going to be spending the
rest of my life in a psychiatric facility, as you give every appearance of
being.)
I am hammering these god damnable piece of ***** criminal acts that were
committed against me down to the lowest spot I want to hammer them down to,
you idiot.
Society doesn't agree with you, and you'll find that out the hard way.
Any resistance whatsoever will only render more guilt anmd misery and
problems on anyone who goes against me in this.
Anyone can laugh at you.
They cops are guilty on multiple counts.
So when are you "charging" them? ;-)
The false warrants that Giovanni swore to and the Negro judge affirmed were
manufactured on Janurary 9, 2007.
The incident occurred on January 8.
Amazing! The warrant was issued the morning after the incident! What a
stunning concept!
There is NO WAY on earth than I am going to be punished in any way because
of their illlegal crimes and fraud they committed against me.
Is that because you're going to try and kill whoever tries to bring you in for
your hearing and/or trial, or are you planning suicide?
I can legally pressure anyone who goes against me in this until I am
satisfied.
....in your fantasy, anyway.
Cower in fear you idiot criminal cowards.
You can not escape the wrath of Wentzky until you make amends to me.
Sorry, no amends for you today...tomorrow doesn't look good, either.
Any more false moves you make against me will be punished.
Believe it.
Why am I reminded of Cleavon Little in "Blazing Saddles" holding the gun to
his own head and parodying the split-personality effect that you post daily?
You are free to lay down your weapons and to resign from your jobs.
I am not living in fear of you criminal ***** breathed idiots.
And, I am not required to live in fear of any of you either.
No one has to live in fear of you, either - once you're incarcerated and
treated for your galloping mental illness.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Omaha 10, Houston 2 (March 24)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 30 vs. Peoria, 7:35
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 08:41:39 PM |
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On 30 Mar 2007 10:02:50 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
They cops are guilty on multiple counts.
So when are you "charging" them? ;-)
He did. And they beat the crap out of him.
There is NO WAY on earth than I am going to be punished in any way because
of their illlegal crimes and fraud they committed against me.
Is that because you're going to try and kill whoever tries to bring you in for
your hearing and/or trial, or are you planning suicide?
Yes. The former is going to cause the latter.
Cower in fear you idiot criminal cowards.
You can not escape the wrath of Wentzky until you make amends to me.
Sorry, no amends for you today...tomorrow doesn't look good, either.
I think I see a "Make an amend to John" slot open around the end of
the 24th century.
You are free to lay down your weapons and to resign from your jobs.
I am not living in fear of you criminal ***** breathed idiots.
And, I am not required to live in fear of any of you either.
No one has to live in fear of you, either - once you're incarcerated and
treated for your galloping mental illness.
Doped up, maybe. There's no treatment for what John has. He's, as my
wife's clients sometimes say, "broke".
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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31 Mar 2007 03:21:22 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On 30 Mar 2007 10:02:50 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote:
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
They cops are guilty on multiple counts.
So when are you "charging" them? ;-)
He did. And they beat the crap out of him.
There is NO WAY on earth than I am going to be punished in any way because
of their illlegal crimes and fraud they committed against me.
Is that because you're going to try and kill whoever tries to bring you in
for your hearing and/or trial, or are you planning suicide?
Yes. The former is going to cause the latter.
That's likely, indeed, from all appearances.
Cower in fear you idiot criminal cowards.
You can not escape the wrath of Wentzky until you make amends to me.
Sorry, no amends for you today...tomorrow doesn't look good, either.
I think I see a "Make an amend to John" slot open around the end of
the 24th century.
That's a bit premature. Wait until that possible planet-threatening asteroid
is past...late in the 29th.
You are free to lay down your weapons and to resign from your jobs.
I am not living in fear of you criminal ***** breathed idiots.
And, I am not required to live in fear of any of you either.
No one has to live in fear of you, either - once you're incarcerated and
treated for your galloping mental illness.
Doped up, maybe. There's no treatment for what John has. He's, as my
wife's clients sometimes say, "broke".
At least he's not Stump Broke. (That anyone knows of.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Peoria 3 (March 30)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, March 31 vs. Worcester, 7:35
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
31 Mar 2007 06:13:38 PM |
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On 31 Mar 2007 03:21:22 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
Doped up, maybe. There's no treatment for what John has. He's, as my
wife's clients sometimes say, "broke".
At least he's not Stump Broke. (That anyone knows of.)
Stumped and John are about equally broken, just in different
components.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
01 Apr 2007 02:01:49 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On 31 Mar 2007 03:21:22 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
Doped up, maybe. There's no treatment for what John has. He's, as my
wife's clients sometimes say, "broke".
At least he's not Stump Broke. (That anyone knows of.)
Stumped and John are about equally broken, just in different
components.
My description of it is "dysfunctional in different directions".
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Worcester 7, Houston 3 (March 31)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, April 3 vs. Peoria, 7:05
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 12:12:28 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:33:55 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
I am hammering these god damnable piece of ***** criminal acts that were
committed against me down to the lowest spot I want to hammer them down to
One little problem ... arresting you is NOT a criminal act. Your
resisting that arrest is, though.
Any resistance whatsoever will only render more guilt anmd misery and
problems on anyone who goes against me in this.
Like the cops who are going about their daily business as if you don't
even exist? Which, for all intents and purposes, is the case - you
DON'T exist in their lives, except as a perp they're going to testify
against. You're about as disruptive to their lives as a piece of
chalk is to a teacher's life.
They cops are guilty on multiple counts.
So why is it that YOU'RE the one under indictment and they're not?
Could it be because the DA thinks you should be committed? And the
judge agrees? But the law only allows them to put you in prison?
The false warrants that Giovanni swore to and the Negro judge affirmed were
manufactured on Janurary 9, 2007.
The incident occurred on January 8.
There is NO WAY on earth than I am going to be punished in any way because
of their illlegal crimes and fraud they committed against me.
And which you have to prove ... which you can't, so you'll be eating
with the other inmates for a few years, or until one of them shoves a
spike up your gut - whichever comes first.
I can legally pressure
For values of "legally pressure" equal to "cry myself to sleep".
anyone who goes against me in this until I am satisfied.
For values of "satisfied" equal to "incarcerated".
You can not escape the wrath of Wentzky
.... without closing the comic book.
You are free to lay down your weapons and to resign from your jobs.
I am not living in fear of you criminal ***** breathed idiots.
And, I am not required to live in fear of any of you either.
No, you're not intelligent enough to fear reality.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 12:01:36 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion of
killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the other
cops did to me.
Attempting to arrest you isn't attacking you. Neither is beating the
crap out of you while you're trying to resist arrest by hitting them.
Hitting a cop is a crime. Resisting arrest is a crime. Cops are
legally entitled to defend themselves against you.
After a;;, you've as much as claimed that you'd kill any man standing behind
you because you'd believe that he's an HIV-infected homosexual trying
to rape you.
I never said that, you idiot.
Sure you did. Just check your old posts on Google.
You are a liar
Google says it's you who is lying.
I would kill anyone the law allows me to kill.
The law doesn't allow you to kill anyone not attempting to kill you
in an immediate method in a situation where it's totally impossible
for you to escape.
*****, you idiot.
Calling the law *****, John?
No. Tellin you your statement is a lie.
The law requires you to try to avoid confrontation wherever possible.
If you choose to not avoid it, killing the person disagreeing with you
becomes murder. Posting that you have the right to do it, before you
do it, makes it premeditated murder - needle time.
Or just making sure that you'll be
let off on an insanity defense?
If you attack me I can kill you in self-defense, legally.
If I stand behind you and attack you in a non-lethal way, you can't
legally kill me. If I stand behind you in a way that makes you think
I'm going to attack you, but I'm really not going to attack you, you
can't legally do anything to me.
There doesn't need to be no path of escape for me to use lethal force
against an attacker.
There does, if he wasn't using lethal force against you.
Are you going to pipe down and behave or are you going to risk your life
and/or someone else's life and become guilty for major crimes against the
public?
Killing you wouldn't be a "major crime against the public", John, it
would be pest extermination without a license. No more serious a
"crime" than impersonating a shoe salesman. But you aren't even worth
that much effort. The bullet it would take to kill you is worth far
more than you are, both in money and to society. You're not even
worthless to society, you have negative worth. You're a DRAIN on
society.
You're REQUIRED by the law to try to escape the attempt.
Not at all, you fool.
Self-defense places no such requirement upon people who are attacked.
Except by the law.
Your are spewing treasonous propaganda.
Disagreeing with you, John, isn't treason, it's sanity. You're not a
nation, you're a notion - a bad one your mother shouldn't have had.
She was pregnant twice and missed both times. One died and one was
never really alive.
The ONLY time you're justified in using deadly force (which is any
force at all that results in death) is when your life is IMMEDIATELY
ion danger by your assailant's use of deadly force.
And, I determine to be at risk fo deadly force if someone attacks me.
No, the law determines whether you had justifiable cause to kill.
After the fact. If you didn't, it sends you to your brother.
Especially if the person who attacks me is carrying weaponry as was the cas
when the IDIOT COP named Giovanni attacked me
Attacked you for what? Resisting arrest? Assaulting him?
and the hoarde of cops who
beat me subsequent to my complewtely legal self-defense actions.
Fighting a cop is illegal. Period. You're REQUIRED to submit to an
arrest.
WIth me in charge you MUST behave or you will get the full force of the law
and the people smahed into your face.
But the only place you'll ever be in charge is in your delusions.
I love docilizing, dominating, commanding, shaming, punishing idiots such as
you.
You don't have the ability to dominate a dead flea. Sucks to be so
emasculated by life, doesn't it, John?
You are a slow creature who no one fears.
But you still won't play with me face to face, John. Because you know
what a coward you are. The only people you'll "face" are faceless
people on Usenet, not real people who might actually be able to beat
the crap out of you if you tried anything.
If you exhibit behavior that confirms you as a predator you will be
punished.
By you? You couldn't "punish" my used newspaper if I spotted you the
p, the u, the n, the i, the s and the h.
A gay man raping you
Is worthy of death.
Not in this country.
Wrongo, idiot.
It is accepted all over the world.
Your world, not the real world. The penalty for rape is prison, not
death.
*NO* jurisdiction penalizes rape with the death
sentence, because that would violate the Constitution.
It wouldn't violate the Constitution
The 8th amendment. Death, where there is no intention to kill, calls
for imprisonment, not death. Even death where death should have been
anticipated calls for prison, not the death penalty.
Killing an attacker is perfectly legal.
If he intends to kill you, not otherwise.
Your resistance to defending people against attackers makes you a
predatorially-minded person.
Since you've publicly stated that it's your legal duty to kill gay men
to protect society, I'm arguing against anyone killing YOU in self
defense. Any gay man would be justified in killing you in self
defense, according to your argument.
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30 Mar 2007 03:03:52 PM |
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In news:theq031l16442p4utorastk1m8ps914fv2@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion
of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone
using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
When did I say 'think is going to rape me", you idiot?
I said any man who TRIES TO RAPE me.
Are we supposed to investigate you now for past forcible rapes you
committed?
Sure seems to me as if you are trying to cover for yourself, you idiot.
I am sure any cop in the entire USA would want to give you a phone call now.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the
other cops did to me.
Attempting to arrest you isn't attacking you.
Who said it was, you idiot?
Attacking me a crime.
I did NOT resist arrest.
Neither is beating the crap out of you while you're trying to resist
arrest by hitting them.
I never resisted arrest or tried to resist arrest.
Hitting a cop is a crime.
Htting a cop is no crime if the cop hits the person first.
Your illicit wolfboy game is criminal.
Resisting arrest is a crime.
That is why I didn't resist arrest.
Cops are legally entitled to defend themselves against you.
People are entitled to defend themselves against cops who attack them.
You can not expect to be a hypocrite in this area and win.
After a;;, you've as much as claimed that you'd kill any man
standing behind you because you'd believe that he's an HIV-infected
homosexual trying
to rape you.
I never said that, you idiot.
Sure you did. Just check your old posts on Google.
I don't need to check them.
I never said what you think I said.
You are a liar
Google says it's you who is lying.
You are wrong.
[snip your dementia]
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
30 Mar 2007 09:08:59 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:theq031l16442p4utorastk1m8ps914fv2@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your delusion
of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts of someone
using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
When did I say 'think is going to rape me", you idiot?
I said any man who TRIES TO RAPE me.
In your opinion. That could mean he stands behind you and puts a hand
on your shoulder. "Tried to" isn't a crime.
Are we supposed to investigate you now for past forcible rapes you
committed?
Go right ahead, John. I have nothing to hide.
I am sure any cop in the entire USA would want to give you a phone call now.
To relieve the boredom of reading your posts, maybe. Or to trade war
stories.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and the
other cops did to me.
Attempting to arrest you isn't attacking you.
Who said it was, you idiot?
You just did.
Attacking me a crime.
I did NOT resist arrest.
So what DID they charge you with? Felony stupidity?
Hitting a cop is a crime.
Htting a cop is no crime
It is. It's called "assaulting a police officer". You're not allowed
to do it. "Defending yourself" by hitting a cop is a crime.
Resisting arrest is a crime.
That is why I didn't resist arrest.
They weren't trying to arrest you when you hit the cop?
Cops are legally entitled to defend themselves against you.
People are entitled to defend themselves against cops
By hiring a lawyer, not by assaulting the cop.
You can not expect to be a hypocrite in this area and win.
You can't expect to hit a cop in your area and win. Especially after
you publicly post that you don't think that the same rules that apply
to everyone else don't apply to you. If, in YOUR opinion, someone is
attacking you, you're legally entitled to kill him, but if in a cop's
opinion, you're attacking him, he can't do anything to defend himself?
And the victim's actual motives don't matter, according to you. If
YOU THINK he was going to attack you, you think you're legally
justified in killing him. So if THE COP THOUGHT that you were
attacking him, he was legally justified in beating you down. You say
no, so don't expect to be free for much of the rest of your life if
you stay "in that area" - they'll arrest you for having your eyes open
in public. That "blue line" isn't something you should even think of
crossing - better people than you have tripped over it.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
31 Mar 2007 03:29:05 AM |
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In news:t2fr031u8bn2m5ds7omlvl7rc1888nt3li@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:theq031l16442p4utorastk1m8ps914fv2@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your
delusion of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts
of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
When did I say 'think is going to rape me", you idiot?
I said any man who TRIES TO RAPE me.
In your opinion.
I didn't sat that.
That could mean he stands behind you and puts a hand
on your shoulder.
I did not sat that.
"Tried to" isn't a crime.
*****. Attempted rape is a crime.
[snip]
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
31 Mar 2007 06:17:29 PM |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:29:05 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:t2fr031u8bn2m5ds7omlvl7rc1888nt3li@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:theq031l16442p4utorastk1m8ps914fv2@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your
delusion of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts
of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
When did I say 'think is going to rape me", you idiot?
I said any man who TRIES TO RAPE me.
In your opinion.
I didn't sat that.
So you'll wait until someone else tells you that, in HIS opinion,
someone is trying to rape you?
That's why we try people in court, John - we first determine whether
they were committing, or trying to commit, a crime, BEFORE we provide
the APPROPRIATE (in the eyes of the law) punishment.
That could mean he stands behind you and puts a hand
on your shoulder.
I did not sat that.
"Tried to" isn't a crime.
*****. Attempted rape is a crime.
Only if he actually attempts to rape you, not if he does something
else and you think it's attempted rape. If you claim you killed him
for attempting to rape you (we're back to this again), YOU have to be
able to PROVE that he was attempting to rape you. Your assertion
isn't good enough.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: How To Lose The War On Terror? Keep Exporting Abortion And Sex Education |
31 Mar 2007 03:37:56 AM |
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In news:t2fr031u8bn2m5ds7omlvl7rc1888nt3li@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:theq031l16442p4utorastk1m8ps914fv2@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:00:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:qb0p039b2etkrmg90plcbhr040jk9cpl7h@4ax.com,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> typed:
If someone attacked you, John, he wouldn't be part of your
delusion of killing him, he'd be part of everyone else's thoughts
of someone using
your posts as evidence that his killing you was self defense.
If anyone killed me that would be murder, because they would not be
protecting themself by killing me, who is no threat to them at all.
You mean your threat to kill any man you think is going to rape you
isn't a threat?
When did I say 'think is going to rape me", you idiot?
I said any man who TRIES TO RAPE me.
In your opinion. That could mean he stands behind you and puts a hand
on your shoulder. "Tried to" isn't a crime.
Are we supposed to investigate you now for past forcible rapes you
committed?
Go right ahead, John. I have nothing to hide.
I am sure any cop in the entire USA would want to give you a phone
call now.
To relieve the boredom of reading your posts, maybe. Or to trade war
stories.
I don't attack people in puiblic like the idiot cop Giovanni and
the other cops did to me.
Attempting to arrest you isn't attacking you.
Who said it was, you idiot?
You just did.
Attacking me a crime.
I did NOT resist arrest.
So what DID they charge you with? Felony stupidity?
Hitting a cop is a crime.
Htting a cop is no crime
It is. It's called "assaulting a police officer". You're not allowed
to do it. "Defending yourself" by hitting a cop is a crime.
Resisting arrest is a crime.
That is why I didn't resist arrest.
They weren't trying to arrest you when you hit the cop?
Cops are legally entitled to defend themselves against you.
People are entitled to defend themselves against cops
By hiring a lawyer, not by assaulting the cop.
You can not expect to be a hypocrite in this area and win.
You can't expect to hit a cop in your area and win.
Of course I can, you lawless fool.
The law allows anyone to use self-defense against anyone who attacks them.
Cops are not exempt from that law.
Especially after you publicly post that you don't think that the same
rules that apply
to everyone else don't apply to you.
Not so, idiot.
It is you who thinks that the same rules that apply to everyone other than
cops do not apply to cops.
You are the hypocritical *****, not me.
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