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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jd"
Date: 30 Jun 2004 09:32:21 PM
Object: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets
Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
would include terrorists).
Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values. i.e. blaming
Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....
for all the evils of the world, while convincing each other of their
own perfection.
Jd
"But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of
judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and
to Israel his sin" (Micah 3:8)
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 03:41:33 PM
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in news:cc9p64$c30$1
@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu:


In article <IYednapxLOlr_nXdRVn-ug@giganews.com> Gray writes:
<
<On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 14:45:34 -0500, Jd wrote
<(in article <j39ie011anltenuvcnm6ui0p9a3s2bartp@4ax.com>):
<
<> Gray Shockley wrote:
<>
<>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:23:41 -0500, Jd wrote:
<>>
<>>>

{...}

<>>> As you can see, these humanists have evolved venomous fangs.
<>>>
<>>> Jd
<>>>
<>>>
<>>
<>> Nope.
<>>
<>> It's just that some Humanists and some Christians are vampires.
<>>
<>> Not every one who is wearing a cross is a Christian; some wear it
<>> as a protective device (sorta like Mace but cheaper).
<>>
<>>
<> What about those who don't even own a cross (like me)?
<>
<> Jd
<>
<
<Stay away from people carrying those death-sized crosses around
<with them, especially one who has all the nails (except one, of
<course) and a hammer if that hammer doesn't belong to Peter, Paul
<and Mary


They finally got one? `bout time, if you ask me.

But what's the deal with the missing nail? Should a Baptist
know that one?

There was a story a few weeks back about a fellow who tried to nail
himself to a cross. He managed to get one hand nailed down...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.

User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 04:45:56 PM
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:26:44 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cc9p64$c30$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):


In article <IYednapxLOlr_nXdRVn-ug@giganews.com> Gray writes:
<
<On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 14:45:34 -0500, Jd wrote
<(in article <j39ie011anltenuvcnm6ui0p9a3s2bartp@4ax.com>):
<
<> Gray Shockley wrote:
<>
<>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:23:41 -0500, Jd wrote:
<>>
<>>>

{...}

<>>> As you can see, these humanists have evolved venomous fangs.
<>>>
<>>> Jd
<>>>
<>>>
<>>
<>> Nope.
<>>
<>> It's just that some Humanists and some Christians are vampires.
<>>
<>> Not every one who is wearing a cross is a Christian; some wear it
<>> as a protective device (sorta like Mace but cheaper).
<>>
<>>
<> What about those who don't even own a cross (like me)?
<>
<> Jd
<>
<
<Stay away from people carrying those death-sized crosses around
<with them, especially one who has all the nails (except one, of
<course) and a hammer if that hammer doesn't belong to Peter, Paul
<and Mary


They finally got one? `bout time, if you ask me.

But what's the deal with the missing nail? Should a Baptist
know that one?

It's the story of why Gipsies have to wander.


In any event, you DO have to give Jd credit for getting the
poisonous/venomous thing right the first time. The odds
of that are incalculable (1 in 2).


-- cary


Gray Shockley
----------------------------
Both are correct.
.
User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 05 Jul 2004 02:27:17 AM
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:26:44 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cc9p64$c30$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

But what's the deal with the missing nail? Should a Baptist
know that one?


It's the story of why Gipsies have to wander.

Not quite:
http://www.fatherryan.org/holocaust/holocaust/hstryhmlnd.htm

Traditions
The Roma still keep many traditions that have stayed with them
throughout the years. Their stories, their crafts, their language,
their medicine, the very magic that defines them. Many Europeans
believed that gypsies were devil worshippers and Christ-killers. It
was even thought that the gypsy race came from the union of the first
gypsy woman and the devil. The Europeans went so far as to blame the
gypsies for the death of Jesus, saying that gypsy smiths had forged
the nails that wee used to nail Christ to the cross. The Roma
counteracted this rumor with a tale of their own. They said that one
of their ancestors had actually stolen one of the nails to be used on
the cross. He had tried to steal the other three but was unable.
There were still only three when the soldiers went to nail Jesus to
the cross, so they had to nail two of his feet down with one nail.
The gypsies went further to say that Jesus had been so grateful to
the gypsy for trying to save His life, that He granted all gypsies
the right to steal.

lojbab (fan of gypsies, for an obvious if not well-known reason)
--
lojbab

Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 05 Jul 2004 03:19:41 PM
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 02:27:17 -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in article <2h0ie09b8isi67umfqd924cdtd4te9hgrd@4ax.com>):

Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:26:44 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cc9p64$c30$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

But what's the deal with the missing nail? Should a Baptist
know that one?


It's the story of why Gipsies have to wander.


Not quite:

[chuckle]
Quite (you choose your folk legends
and I'll choose mine [bwg]).
--------------------------------------------------------
<http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/luck.htm>
Other Gypsies believe that it was an early Gypsy who made the
nails that were used to crucify Christ.  The Gypsy made three
nails, which he gave to the Roman soldiers, and was working on
the fourth nail when he was told for whom they were intended. 
The smith waited for the fourth nail to cool, but it would not
cool, and so he poured cold water onto it.  But the water turned
to steam and evaporated; and still the nail glowed red.  The
Gypsy, terrified, fled leaving the nail behind.  Hours later he
pitched his tent in the desert, many miles from Jerusalem, only
to discover the glowing nail at his feet.  Again he fled, but it
was always the same.  No matter where he camped, the fourth nail
would appear.  And so, Gypsies believe, the fourth nail will
always follow them and, because of this, they are condemned to be
wanderers for as long as man shall inherit the earth.
--------------------------------------------------------
++ Gray/no disrespect intended towards the Traveling People/


http://www.fatherryan.org/holocaust/holocaust/hstryhmlnd.htm

Traditions
The Roma still keep many traditions that have stayed with them
throughout the years. Their stories, their crafts, their language,
their medicine, the very magic that defines them. Many Europeans
believed that gypsies were devil worshippers and Christ-killers. It
was even thought that the gypsy race came from the union of the first
gypsy woman and the devil. The Europeans went so far as to blame the
gypsies for the death of Jesus, saying that gypsy smiths had forged
the nails that wee used to nail Christ to the cross. The Roma
counteracted this rumor with a tale of their own. They said that one
of their ancestors had actually stolen one of the nails to be used on
the cross. He had tried to steal the other three but was unable.
There were still only three when the soldiers went to nail Jesus to
the cross, so they had to nail two of his feet down with one nail.
The gypsies went further to say that Jesus had been so grateful to
the gypsy for trying to save His life, that He granted all gypsies
the right to steal.


lojbab (fan of gypsies, for an obvious if not well-known reason)

.
User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 06 Jul 2004 01:14:08 AM
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 02:27:17 -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in article <2h0ie09b8isi67umfqd924cdtd4te9hgrd@4ax.com>):

Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:26:44 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cc9p64$c30$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

But what's the deal with the missing nail? Should a Baptist
know that one?


It's the story of why Gipsies have to wander.


Not quite:


[chuckle]

Quite (you choose your folk legends
and I'll choose mine [bwg]).

--------------------------------------------------------

<http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/luck.htm>

Other Gypsies believe that it was an early Gypsy who made the
nails that were used to crucify Christ.  The Gypsy made three
nails, which he gave to the Roman soldiers, and was working on
the fourth nail when he was told for whom they were intended. 
The smith waited for the fourth nail to cool, but it would not
cool, and so he poured cold water onto it.  But the water turned
to steam and evaporated; and still the nail glowed red.  The
Gypsy, terrified, fled leaving the nail behind.  Hours later he
pitched his tent in the desert, many miles from Jerusalem, only
to discover the glowing nail at his feet.  Again he fled, but it
was always the same.  No matter where he camped, the fourth nail
would appear.  And so, Gypsies believe, the fourth nail will
always follow them and, because of this, they are condemned to be
wanderers for as long as man shall inherit the earth.
--------------------------------------------------------

Of course the problem with that folk legend is that the gypsies appear
to have left northern India, probably at the time of the Moslem
invasions, and eventually wandered to Europe to escape persecution.
DNA evidence supports this version.
http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2001_v69_p1314-1331.pdf
http://www.herts.ac.uk/UHPress/english/v3newedn.html
(I'm going to try to get the latter book).

++ Gray/no disrespect intended towards the Traveling People/

I hope not. My kids are the greatest!
lojbab
--
lojbab

Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
.




User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 03 Jul 2004 09:35:16 PM
In article <foidna237-US03rdRVn-vw@giganews.com> Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:23:41 -0500, Jd wrote:
<
<> Gregory Gadow wrote:
<>
<>> Jd wrote:
<>>
<>>> Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
<>>> called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
<>>
<>> You confuse Humanism with atheism. Atheism is the lack of belief in
<>> deities or supernaturalism. Humanism is a philosophy that emphasizes the
<>> intrinsic value of human beings, human aspirations and human
<>> accomplishments. The two are not at all the same; most Humanists are
<>> actually theists. The Humanist organizations tend towards secularism and
<>> atheism because religious Humanists generally find a home in their
<>> communities of faith.
<>
<> Then obviously since most all of these "humanists" here are trying to
<> bash my brains out, they are not practicing the "philosophy" you
<> mentioned above here in public.
<>
<> Do they practice their religion only in the privacy of their homes or
<> something?
<>
<> As you can see, these humanists have evolved venomous fangs.
<>
<> Jd
<>
<>
<
<Nope.
<
<It's just that some Humanists and some Christians are vampires.
<
<Not every one who is wearing a cross is a Christian; some wear it
<as a protective device (sorta like Mace but cheaper).
and, you can get it through airport security.
-- cary
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 03 Jul 2004 10:36:36 PM
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:35:16 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cc7qd4$dcb$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

In article <foidna237-US03rdRVn-vw@giganews.com> Gray Shockley
<gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:23:41 -0500, Jd wrote:
<
<> Gregory Gadow wrote:
<>
<>> Jd wrote:
<>>
<>>> Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
<>>> called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
<>>
<>> You confuse Humanism with atheism. Atheism is the lack of belief in
<>> deities or supernaturalism. Humanism is a philosophy that emphasizes the
<>> intrinsic value of human beings, human aspirations and human
<>> accomplishments. The two are not at all the same; most Humanists are
<>> actually theists. The Humanist organizations tend towards secularism and
<>> atheism because religious Humanists generally find a home in their
<>> communities of faith.
<>
<> Then obviously since most all of these "humanists" here are trying to
<> bash my brains out, they are not practicing the "philosophy" you
<> mentioned above here in public.
<>
<> Do they practice their religion only in the privacy of their homes or
<> something?
<>
<> As you can see, these humanists have evolved venomous fangs.
<>
<> Jd
<>
<>
<
<Nope.
<
<It's just that some Humanists and some Christians are vampires.
<
<Not every one who is wearing a cross is a Christian; some wear it
<as a protective device (sorta like Mace but cheaper).

and, you can get it through airport security.


-- cary

Not if it's death-sized.
ħħ Gray //
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 02 Jul 2004 12:24:13 AM
Jd wrote:

Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
called "heaven". Or eternal life there.

right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff


They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
would include terrorists).

correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life


Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.

Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
of something

i.e. blaming
Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....

Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.
what perfect idiots you are


for all the evils of the world, while convincing each other of their
own perfection.

If you're looking for perfection, look in the mirror. If you find it
there, expect it elsewhere.
[Malcolm S. Forbes]



Jd

"But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of
judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and
to Israel his sin" (Micah 3:8)

.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 03 Jul 2004 05:23:44 PM
bob young wrote:



Jd wrote:

Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
called "heaven". Or eternal life there.


right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff

Hmmm.... you must be one of those nice humanist I've been hearing
about (NOT!).

They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
would include terrorists).


correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life


Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.


Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
of something

i.e. blaming
Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....


Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.

what perfect idiots you are

So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
Do you not believe deep down in your soul that nothing is illegal
unless you get caught?
That is the way folks who have no conscience think. They have no
conscience because the one they had got burnt in the frying pan.
1Timothy 4:1-2 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter
times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having
their conscience seared with a hot iron"
This entire thread in which all these so called "humanists" have
betrayed their own values here in public, has proved that what the
Bible foretold about latter day hypocrites is true.
Jd
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 03 Jul 2004 06:04:32 PM
In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<bob young wrote:
<
<>
<>
<>Jd wrote:
<>
<>> Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
<>> called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
<>
<>right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff
<
<Hmmm.... you must be one of those nice humanist I've been hearing
<about (NOT!).
<
<>> They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
<>> perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
<>> would include terrorists).
<>
<>correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life
<>
<>>
<>> Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.
<>
<>Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
<>of something
<>
<>> i.e. blaming
<>> Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
<>> Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....
<>
<>Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
<>and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
<>to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
<>poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
<>the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.
<>
<>what perfect idiots you are
<
<So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
<you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
< So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
< you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
Or a bankrobber?
-- cary
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 02:45:16 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<bob young wrote:
<
<>
<>
<>Jd wrote:
<>
<>> Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
<>> called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
<>
<>right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff
<
<Hmmm.... you must be one of those nice humanist I've been hearing
<about (NOT!).
<
<>> They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
<>> perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
<>> would include terrorists).
<>
<>correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life
<>
<>>
<>> Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.
<>
<>Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
<>of something
<>
<>> i.e. blaming
<>> Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
<>> Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....
<>
<>Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
<>and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
<>to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
<>poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
<>the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.
<>
<>what perfect idiots you are
<
<So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
<you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?



< So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
< you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
Or a bankrobber?


-- cary

How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
Special Ops group?
Jd
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 02:57:51 PM
In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<>
{...}
<>
<>And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<>as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
<>Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
<Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
<Special Ops group?
Sorry, but I asked first:
if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


-- cary
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 05:00:45 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<>
{...}
<>
<>And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<>as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
<>Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
<Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
<Special Ops group?

Sorry, but I asked first:

if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


-- cary

"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
control these situations when in fact... you can't.
Jd
"But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of
judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and
to Israel his sin" (Micah 3:8)
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 05:54:23 PM
In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><>
{...}
<>
<>Sorry, but I asked first:
<>
<> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<control these situations when in fact... you can't.
Mmmmm... My Jezebel spirit is due to become my Jezebel flesh in
a couple of weeks now.
And just in time for the monsoons.
-- cary
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 07:00:48 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><>
{...}
<>
<>Sorry, but I asked first:
<>
<> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<control these situations when in fact... you can't.


Mmmmm... My Jezebel spirit is due to become my Jezebel flesh in
a couple of weeks now.

And just in time for the monsoons.


-- cary

What? Are you getting illegally married to a man?
Jd
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 07:21:06 PM
In article <j59te0h3vu90jt2pq1v69a5iuorgg8jmra@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><><
<><><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><><>
<> {...}
<><>
<><>Sorry, but I asked first:
<><>
<><> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<><> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<><> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<><>
<><>
<><>-- cary
<><
<><"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<><control these situations when in fact... you can't.
<>
<>
<>Mmmmm... My Jezebel spirit is due to become my Jezebel flesh in
<>a couple of weeks now.
<>
<>And just in time for the monsoons.
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<What? Are you getting illegally married to a man?
What? And wreck a perfectly good affair? Why?
Nope, not me. Though where she comes from, that wouldn't be
illegal.
(and on the bus back from Parliament Hill, you'd be one of the
less colourful denizens)
-- cary
.


User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 10:58:12 PM
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:54:23 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cckjav$lj9$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd
<jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><>
{...}
<>
<>Sorry, but I asked first:
<>
<> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<control these situations when in fact... you can't.


Mmmmm... My Jezebel spirit is due to become my Jezebel flesh in
a couple of weeks now.

And just in time for the monsoons./and the morons/G/


-- cary



.


User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 05:29:00 PM
In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><>
<> {...}
<><>
<><>And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<><>as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
<><>Or a bankrobber?
<><>
<><>
<><>-- cary
<><
<><How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
<><Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
<><Special Ops group?
<>
<>Sorry, but I asked first:
<>
<> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<control these situations when in fact... you can't.
<
Goodness, goodness...how can you be so afraid of one simple question?
Let's see if you'll try to squirm away for a third time, shall we?:
if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


-- cary
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 07:00:48 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <bv0te0lqfugn7748vo923iecf7hr3ehf8f@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<Cary Kittrell wrote:
<
<>In article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><Cary Kittrell wrote:
<><
<><>In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<><>
<> {...}
<><>
<><>And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<><>as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
<><>Or a bankrobber?
<><>
<><>
<><>-- cary
<><
<><How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
<><Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
<><Special Ops group?
<>
<>Sorry, but I asked first:
<>
<> if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
<> as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
<> a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?
<>
<>
<>-- cary
<
<"Sorry" is right. Your Jezebel spirit has caused you to think you can
<control these situations when in fact... you can't.
<


Goodness, goodness...how can you be so afraid of one simple question?

Let's see if you'll try to squirm away for a third time, shall we?:

if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming
a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


-- cary

I repeat.... how do you know I'm not in PsyOps?
Jd
.




User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 03:03:56 PM
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 14:45:16 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com>):

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <esrfe09fr7p747ileaugi1bn9c66qc2olt@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<bob young wrote:
<
<>
<>
<>Jd wrote:
<>
<>> Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
<>> called "heaven". Or eternal life there.
<>
<>right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff
<
<Hmmm.... you must be one of those nice humanist I've been hearing
<about (NOT!).
<
<>> They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
<>> perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
<>> would include terrorists).
<>
<>correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life
<>
<>>
<>> Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.
<>
<>Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
<>of something
<>
<>> i.e. blaming
<>> Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
<>> Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....
<>
<>Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
<>and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
<>to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
<>poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
<>the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.
<>
<>what perfect idiots you are
<
<So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
<you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?



< So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
< you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?


And if the predestined saved are now no longer subject to the Law,
as you have often told us here, what keeps you from becoming a homosexual?
Or a bankrobber?


-- cary


How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
Special Ops group?

Jd

Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
++ Gray //
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 05:00:46 PM
Gray Shockley wrote:

Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.


++ Gray //

Nothing on TV eh?
Jd
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 05:56:49 PM
In article <431te0t46d8umsag5vmab0hthg4i5esdfu@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<m>
<
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<>
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<
< Nothing on TV eh?
Yeah, really. What he said. Not even Anthropology?
Or Smudge?
-- cary
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 07:00:47 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <431te0t46d8umsag5vmab0hthg4i5esdfu@4ax.com> Jd <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<m>
<
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<>
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<

< Nothing on TV eh?


Yeah, really. What he said. Not even Anthropology?

Or Smudge?


-- cary

Don't forget "fudge" (packers).
Jd
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 09 Jul 2004 09:15:53 AM
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:00:47 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <g39te0t8juff1r1fibvv0q7tbmmp0dvag0@4ax.com>):

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <431te0t46d8umsag5vmab0hthg4i5esdfu@4ax.com> Jd
<jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<m>
<
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<>
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<

< Nothing on TV eh?


Yeah, really. What he said. Not even Anthropology?

Or Smudge?


-- cary


Don't forget "fudge" (packers).

Jd

Is that sorta kinda like egg packers or tonsil packers?
++ Gray //
.


User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 08 Jul 2004 11:04:54 PM
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:56:49 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cckjfh$ljl$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):

In article <431te0t46d8umsag5vmab0hthg4i5esdfu@4ax.com> Jd
<jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<m>
<
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<>
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<

< Nothing on TV eh?


Yeah, really. What he said. Not even Anthropology?

Or Smudge?


-- cary

I'm sorry to say that Smudge, the Wonder Cat, was killed by the
biggest raccoon I've ever seen.
MerryDale, The Sorority Cat, is vacationing in the Far Down South
with four other cats, 4 dogs and seven (laying) chickens.
ħħ Gray //
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 09 Jul 2004 11:17:56 AM
In article <p_WdneDNN_37hHPd4p2dnA@giganews.com> Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:56:49 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
<(in article <cckjfh$ljl$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
<
<> In article <431te0t46d8umsag5vmab0hthg4i5esdfu@4ax.com> Jd
<> <jeff.day@att.net> writes:
<> <m>
<> <
<> <Gray Shockley wrote:
<> <
<> <>Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<> <>
<> <>
<> <> ++ Gray //
<> <
<>
<> < Nothing on TV eh?
<>
<>
<> Yeah, really. What he said. Not even Anthropology?
<>
<> Or Smudge?
<>
<>
<> -- cary
<
<I'm sorry to say that Smudge, the Wonder Cat, was killed by the
<biggest raccoon I've ever seen.
Oh. I'm sorry to hear that. That's so sad.
All of mine are strictly indoors anymore. I live
in Coyote Central, and every one of them is a
lot more droit than that guy wearing the giant
roman candle.
Sorry about Smudge.
-- cary
.




User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 04 Jul 2004 03:09:28 PM
In article <gKidnXWoHrI2_3XdRVn-sA@giganews.com> Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 14:45:16 -0500, Jd wrote
<(in article <u29ie0tikt88dad0d3k35qlc46kjmplaul@4ax.com>):
<
<>

<>
<> How do you know that I'm not lying about being a Professional
<> Biologist and in reality I'm a psychologist working for some Marine
<> Special Ops group?
<>
<> Jd
<>
<
<Because, then, you'd be rotten to the Corps.
<
Bravo.
-- cary
.




User: "bob young"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate prophets 03 Jul 2004 10:17:16 PM
Jd wrote:

bob young wrote:



Jd wrote:

Think about this. Humanist do not want you to believe in a place
called "heaven". Or eternal life there.


right because only childish idiots believe in such stuff


Hmmm.... you must be one of those nice humanist I've been hearing
about (NOT!).

They want you to think that life sprang from nothing and became
perfect (sinless) all on its own in the form of human beings (which
would include terrorists).


correct, includes all, the good, the bad the indifferent - that's life


Therefore humanists and terrorists share the same values.


Absolute childish banal ***** - or are you trying to convince yourself
of something

i.e. blaming
Christians and Jews who enlighted the earth with such concepts as
Heaven, eternal life, Hell, and the repentance\forgiveness of sins....


Heaven - hell - all the bad guys go to hell and the good ones to heaven,
and as the two meet we come together to the point where it is difficult
to decide who goes where, so your god makes that final decision and the
poor sod who just misses out on 'heaven, spends his life in fire whilst
the other guy who just made it lives in some dream cuckoo land.

what perfect idiots you are


So since there is no final judgement day in your opinion, what keeps
you from becoming a homosexual? Or a bankrobber?

A. I have moral standards like the vast majoirty of humans. A bit like the
1.1 biliion out of the 1.3 billion Chinese who have no belief in any gods.
It is totally unecessary.
B. And instead of coming back with another question try answering my query
about the supidity of beleif in the Hell myth
bob
Hong kong
"Hell is an outrage on humanity. When you tell me that your deity made you in
his image, I reply that he must have been very ugly."
[Victor Hugo]
If watching people being tortured for all eternity is one of the 'delights'
of heaven, I want no part of it or any religion that teaches it.
[John Hachmann]
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a
will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who
should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the
fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."
[Albert Einstein]



Do you not believe deep down in your soul that nothing is illegal
unless you get caught?

That is the way folks who have no conscience think. They have no
conscience because the one they had got burnt in the frying pan.

1Timothy 4:1-2 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter
times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having
their conscience seared with a hot iron"

This entire thread in which all these so called "humanists" have
betrayed their own values here in public, has proved that what the
Bible foretold about latter day hypocrites is true.

Jd

.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate profits 03 Jul 2004 11:16:25 PM
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:17:16 -0500, bob young quoted:

"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a
will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who
should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such
notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."
[Albert Einstein]

Yeah, well, maybe, but it keeps hundreds of thousands
of people with no marketable skills off the welfare rolls.
++ Gray //
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: How to preach Humanism, love terrorists, & hate profits 04 Jul 2004 07:17:10 AM
Gray Shockley wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:17:16 -0500, bob young quoted:

"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a
will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who
should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such
notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."
[Albert Einstein]


Yeah, well, maybe, but it keeps hundreds of thousands
of people with no marketable skills off the welfare rolls.

How's that? Not being in the Good ole' USA, and all



++ Gray //

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