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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...

These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular
ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a
logical
argument.

Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it
ok
to
diddle the help.

Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.

I merely illustrated that you have no more morals than Clinton
has.
Your responses beautifully illustrate *that* point.

The morals of Clinton sure beats the morals of Republicans, hands
down.

* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with
two
counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the
delinquency
of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.

* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested
for
soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three
weeks
later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S.
attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.

* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after
police
began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls,
including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.

* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping
girls
under the age of 16.

* Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found
guilty of fondling underage girls.

* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested
for
having sex with a 14-year old boy.

* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire
surrendered
to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8
and
13.

* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for
soliciting
sex from 13-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275
days
in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a
six-year
period.

* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged
with
molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from
Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him
flirting with a 16-year old boy.

* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative
Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a
13-year old girl on the internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou
Beres
confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty
to
charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has
repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to
fondling
a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having
sex
with a 5-year old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty
to
molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter
of
an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to
fondling a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted
child molester.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year
sentence
in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing
child
pornography over the internet.

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of
soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8
years
in prison.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to
10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and
17.

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with
molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran
church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a
sexual
act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded
guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and
offering
a
bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced
to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old
girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a
child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to
having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was
sentenced
to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of
whom
appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child
sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex
parties
at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty
of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty
of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual
photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts
of
sex crimes involving children.

* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded
guilty
to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five
years later on the same charge.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step
daughter.

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession
of
child pornography on his home computer.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman
was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a
gay
bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican
Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of
unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering
the
drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of
having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy
after
the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to
exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl
after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six
counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced
to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a
14-year old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts
of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on
seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the
age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found
guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal
sexual
assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting
his
two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in
prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to
possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30
months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child
pornography
was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate
Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of
soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in
prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy
for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went
swimming
in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and
self-proclaimed
reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage
girls.

* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation"
Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was
sentenced
to six years in prison.

* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development
Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child
pornography
on his computer.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups,
Richard
A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl.
Dasen,
62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren,
has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than
$1
million to have sex with a large number of young women.

* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the
rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents
into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See
excerpt
of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.

As if the Democrats have a spotless record?

Never claimed they did.

And 90% of your list is complete *****.

Let's see some proof of that.

take the last entry, for example...

What about it?

It's a report from a prisoner...hardly a credible source.....

So prison guards should be allowed to do whatever they want to a
prisoner
because hey, who would believe them?

as are most of the "reports" in your list.

So because one of them is a report from a prisoner that means all of
them or at least most of them are? Did you actually read any of the
other parts of the list or are you just displaying your now famous
lack of reading comprehension skills?

Consider the "sources" of most of the "reports" in your "list"...

You mean the actual court convictions of these Republicans? Or the
evidence found? Or the guilty pleas of the Republicans? Yeah, I
guess
that means they're all fake.

Note: No response.

Note: None was necessary.

So you're not going to back up your claim that "90% of the list is
complete *****?"

If I wished to do so, I could post a list of dummycrat offenders, with
as
many dubious entries as your list has,

You mean none? One at the most?

but to what effect? Your "list" proves nothing.

It certainly proves that Republicans haven't cornered the market on
moral values like you seem to paint them.

Do you insist on such a silly game?

If you start accusing me of having no moral values, I'm going to counter
your *****.

What is your point, other than your self-consuming need to have the
last
word?

Projecting again? You're the one who seems to need to have the last
word.

Thank you for so eloquently proving my point....

And you just proved mine.

I needed a good laugh....

You are as pointless as you are clueless...

In article <13lhr0441qtdl18@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...

These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a logical argument.

Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.

Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.

I'm not the one defending the person who breached his duties.