| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"dapra" |
| Date: |
05 Nov 2007 01:21:39 PM |
| Object: |
How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
After more than 4 years of an aggressive, illegal war by the Bush
administration, violating The Constitution, US laws, with the
cooperation, collusion of the Democrats in the last year, it's time to
ask; how to survive a fascist regime or even more to come?
Any ideas? Can it be stopped? Can at least our kids come out in the
other end, battered, ashamed but free, as the Germans did?
Or will it be the end of history? The corporate oligarchy will rule the
globe with its private armys, its surveillance apparatus, and with its
torturers for ever.
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| User: "Hertz Donut" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
13 Dec 2007 01:46:18 AM |
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"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
news:4760BFFE.D0534545@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Hugh Gibbons wrote:
In article <N_idnZ8UoetEAsLanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>,
"Hertz Donut" <somewhere@outthere.net> wrote:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13luq7c9m8c8u3e@corp.supernews.com...
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, you are the *only* one that believes that.
He'd have to be because George W. Bush is without question
the worst President ever.
excepting Carter, Clinton, Hoover, Johnson, etc.....
Yes, Carter would have to be up there...along with LBJ.
Hoover was not quite the same league, but was still mediocre.
Honu
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
12 Dec 2007 09:38:01 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:46:18 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<N_idnZ8UoetEAsLanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their
particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they
lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to
think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached his
duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he
was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you consider
the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your
hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty
of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great president
and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a
foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops.
He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, you are the *only* one that believes that.
Me and a majority of the U.S.
--
Bushism 5-23:
"I'm thrilled to be here in the breadbasket of America because it gives
me a chance to remind our fellow citizens that we have an advantage here
in America-- we can feed ourselves."
--Stockton, California; August 23, 2002
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| User: "tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
11 Dec 2007 11:31:51 PM |
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In article <13luq7c9m8c8u3e@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
12 Dec 2007 12:56:22 AM |
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
--
Bushism 9-25:
"The suicide bombings have increased. There's too many of them."
--Albuquerque, New Mexico; August 15, 2001
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| User: "Hertz Donut" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
12 Dec 2007 02:47:03 AM |
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with
their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they
lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem
to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached
his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he
was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you
consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your
hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty
of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great
president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a
foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops.
He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a
failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a
year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Accuse someone else of the same tactic you use...typical left wing idiocy.
Honu\
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
12 Dec 2007 09:36:09 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:47:03 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<B-Kdna3wx-SbPcLanZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with
their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they
lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem
to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached
his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he
was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you
consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your
hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty
of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great
president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a
foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops.
He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a
failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a
year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Accuse someone else of the same tactic you use...typical left wing idiocy.
Yes, lying is another tactic of right-wingers, thanks for reminding me.
--
(morganj): 0 is false and 1 is true, correct?
(alec_eso): 1, morganj
(morganj): *****.
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
12 Dec 2007 10:44:37 PM |
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In article <13lv1gm56pqsu26@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:31:51 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13luq7c9m8c8u3e@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lsh3t7apjif2b@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lsbttfcruh8db@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lpk5sgc03oe9e@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lmkh9khdato12@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lk3oddcpe1n43@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:05:39 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lhr0441qtdl18@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Whoosh.
You think Bill was actually in charge ?
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
13 Dec 2007 10:32:39 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:44:37 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lv1gm56pqsu26@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13luq7c9m8c8u3e@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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In article <13lk3oddcpe1n43@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:05:39 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lhr0441qtdl18@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Whoosh.
You think Bill was actually in charge ?
So who do you fantasize was actually in charge? And why do you think
that's not questioning his masculinity?
--
Bushism 8-4:
"Recession means that people's incomes, at the employer level, are going
down, basically, relative to costs; people are getting laid off."
--Washington, D.C.; February 19, 2004
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
13 Dec 2007 01:09:25 PM |
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<null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lmkh9khdato12@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:07:47 -0800, tankfixer
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In article <13lk3oddcpe1n43@corp.supernews.com>,
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<null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lhr0441qtdl18@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org> wrote in
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news:<MPG.21c2554d9094cd869896e5@nntp.earthlink.net>:
In article
<13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with
their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because
they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you
seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my
point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached
his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said
he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok
then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you
consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your
hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also
guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great
president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a
foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our
troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a
failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a
year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far
than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Whoosh.
You think Bill was actually in charge ?
So who do you fantasize was actually in charge? And why do you think
that's not questioning his masculinity?
Concerned about your own masculinity there, kiddo?
Honu
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
13 Dec 2007 02:52:51 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:09:25 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<tcydnW3j5PL7HvzanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
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<null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13lhr0441qtdl18@corp.supernews.com>,
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:52:37 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org> wrote in
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In article
<13lgdf1qhclud49@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
These guys call anyone who doesn't agree with
their particular ideology
stupid. All they have is invective because
they lack a logical argument.
Actually I'd consider you stupid because you
seem to think it ok to
diddle the help.
Thank you for so beautifully illustrating my
point.
I'm not the one defending the person who breached
his duties.
And I never said he was right for doing it. I said
he was a good president
in spite of it.
Really ?
Bombing innocent nations and invading them is ok
then ?
According to Dubya it is.
We are talking about your hero Bill Clinton.
You're erroneously presupposing he is my hero.
You keep claiming he was a great president.
People in Serbia and Somalia would disagree.
So why should I consider their opinions any more than you
consider the
Iraqis' opinions about President Bush?
Or don't you want to defend HIS actions ?
What's the matter, you don't like to be called on your
hypocrisy? IOKIYAR.
I'm not the one defending Mr Clinton
No, you're attacking him for something that Bush is also
guilty of.
So which is it ?
They both did the same things. Yet you think one a great
president and
abhor the other.
Can you explain the conumdrum ?
Clinton did it in a way that didn't tie our military down in a
foreign
country for years and cause the deaths of thousands of our
troops. He
didn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into a war with a
failed
exit strategy and erroneous presuppositions.
News flash.
We are still in that counrty he claimed we would occupy for a
year....
And yet it was still better planned and better executed by far
than
anything Bush has done.
Oh, that makes his lies all better.
Right.
So you admit he was a better president than Bush.
No, she wasn't.
Ah, question someone's masculinity when you're losing the argument.
Typical right-winger.
Whoosh.
You think Bill was actually in charge ?
So who do you fantasize was actually in charge? And why do you think
that's not questioning his masculinity?
Concerned about your own masculinity there, kiddo?
No, that's strictly a right-wing problem.
--
Funny Lurlean quote #46:
"My Deep Faith protects me from vampires - but Our Holy Church teaches
that other women need to wear garlic around their waists when it's rag
time to keep the vampire lesbians away." -- Lurlean preaches about the
importance of being up on ALL of Bram Stoker's works.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
04 Dec 2007 12:05:53 AM |
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:02:00 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4753A4F0.E4B08C0D@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:
Bill Baker wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:45:28 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<rqydncS3kpBkCs7anZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:41:39 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<CMadnbfCzu1Z8s_anZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:16:07 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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In article <13l1uo8pcergh11@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote
in
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In article <7ri1l318luullssde4u22tqukde8vgile3@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual favors.
--
Bushism 1-13:
"The students at Yale came from all different backgrounds and all parts
of the country. Within months, I knew many of them."
--From "A Charge to Keep," by George W. Bush, published November 1999
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04 Dec 2007 01:18:01 AM |
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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In article <13l7a3q1lfr3u8c@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4753A4F0.E4B08C0D@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:
Bill Baker wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:45:28 -1000, Hertz Donut
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer
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In article <7ri1l318luullssde4u22tqukde8vgile3@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote
in
message
news:474F02D2.E5CA6B67@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists get
away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise missiles
to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the appearance of
doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former greatness
before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own private
brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a president
JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I answered
it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the White
House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The point is
that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted her,
would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying under
oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put on
trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual favors.
It was in the White House
He was the President of the United States
Lewinsky told him she wanted to leave
He made her stay
Honu
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
04 Dec 2007 09:41:13 AM |
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:18:01 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<u8adnQouNYC0YsnanZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
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In article <13l7a3q1lfr3u8c@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
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Bill Baker wrote:
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wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org> wrote
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In article <7ri1l318luullssde4u22tqukde8vgile3@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote
in
message
news:474F02D2.E5CA6B67@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists get
away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise missiles
to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the appearance of
doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former greatness
before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own private
brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a president
JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I answered
it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the White
House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The point is
that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted her,
would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying under
oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put on
trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual favors.
It was in the White House
He was the President of the United States
Lewinsky told him she wanted to leave
He made her stay
Prove that she said she wanted to leave.
--
<ckx> women ask for it
<ckx> they act all old and mature
<ckx> and then you stick your ***** up their *****
<ckx> and they get all bitchy
<ckx> "I"M ONLY 13, I'M ONLY 13!!!"
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| User: "tankfixer" |
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04 Dec 2007 11:15:04 PM |
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In article <13l9ri1o76tu504@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:02:00 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13l7a3q1lfr3u8c@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4753A4F0.E4B08C0D@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:
Bill Baker wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:45:28 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<rqydncS3kpBkCs7anZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:41:39 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<CMadnbfCzu1Z8s_anZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:16:07 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:31:45 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13l1uo8pcergh11@corp.supernews.com>,
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org says...
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote
in
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In article <7ri1l318luullssde4u22tqukde8vgile3@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in
message
news:474F02D2.E5CA6B67@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
.
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
04 Dec 2007 11:54:40 PM |
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"tankfixer" <null@null.org> wrote in message
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In article <13l9ri1o76tu504@corp.supernews.com>,
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:02:00 -0800, tankfixer <null@null.org> wrote in
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In article <13l7a3q1lfr3u8c@corp.supernews.com>,
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4753A4F0.E4B08C0D@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:
Bill Baker wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:45:28 -1000, Hertz Donut
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:41:39 -1000, Hertz Donut
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In article <13l1uo8pcergh11@corp.supernews.com>,
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org> wrote
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In article <7ri1l318luullssde4u22tqukde8vgile3@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article
<fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
95b@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer
<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote
in
message
news:474F02D2.E5CA6B67@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists
get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the appearance of
doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former greatness
before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also say
I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own private
brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I answered
it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the White
House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The point
is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying under
oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put on
trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
He can't do a straight face with his lips wrapped around a *****.
You keep making unreasonable demands.
Sheesh!
Jim E
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
05 Dec 2007 12:22:00 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 21:54:40 -0800, Jim E <YD639275@SVN.net> wrote in
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In article <13l9ri1o76tu504@corp.supernews.com>,
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In article <13l7a3q1lfr3u8c@corp.supernews.com>,
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:52 GMT, redc1c4
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Bill Baker wrote:
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:31:53 -0800, tankfixer
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wrote:
In article
<fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk4pu@4ax.com>,
activated_
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<null@null.org>
wrote:
In article <bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
bucky@kaufman.net
says...
"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote
in
message
news:474F02D2.E5CA6B67@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the terrorists
get away
with
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