| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"dapra" |
| Date: |
05 Nov 2007 01:21:39 PM |
| Object: |
How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
After more than 4 years of an aggressive, illegal war by the Bush
administration, violating The Constitution, US laws, with the
cooperation, collusion of the Democrats in the last year, it's time to
ask; how to survive a fascist regime or even more to come?
Any ideas? Can it be stopped? Can at least our kids come out in the
other end, battered, ashamed but free, as the Germans did?
Or will it be the end of history? The corporate oligarchy will rule the
globe with its private armys, its surveillance apparatus, and with its
torturers for ever.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
06 Dec 2007 12:56:45 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:32 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
--
<factorial_nine> "Male masturbation is a personal turn off for me. As a
single woman, I'm especially looking for a man who doesn't masturbate,
even while he's single."
<factorial_nine> GOOD LUCK, *****.
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| User: "Hertz Donut" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
06 Dec 2007 02:03:34 AM |
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wrote:
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar,
a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone
a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried
to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his
employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled
her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual?
Did it ever occur to you to read the transcript?
As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
Quoted out of context...read what she said about his repeated sexual
advances...
Honu
.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
06 Dec 2007 11:43:34 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:03:34 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
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wrote:
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<bqE3j.2541$NY.34@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
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"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar,
a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone
a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried
to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his
employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled
her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual?
Did it ever occur to you to read the transcript?
Care to point me to the part of the transcript you're talking about?
As a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
Quoted out of context...
The context doesn't make any difference.
read what she said about his repeated sexual advances...
No such quote seems to exist that I can find. Care to point me to it?
That is, if you're not once again making unsubstantiated and erroneous
claims.
--
Funny Lurlean quote #32:
"Did you even hang on to your bloody sheet? I sent mine to my daddy
and he framed it and put it on the wall in the den along with some of
the deer and bear he shot and had stuffed."
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| User: "genie" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
06 Dec 2007 12:45:28 PM |
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On Dec 6, 1:56 am, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:32 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewh...@outthere.net>
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer
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wrote:
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<fg0vk3ds07ck4s9rlv8jifcvhlrfadk...@4ax.com>,
activated_
9...@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer
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wrote:
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<bqE3j.2541$NY...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
--
<factorial_nine> "Male masturbation is a personal turn off for me. As a
single woman, I'm especially looking for a man who doesn't masturbate,
even while he's single."
<factorial_nine> GOOD LUCK, *****.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
06 Dec 2007 08:49:26 PM |
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In article <844c20b1-fa2c-4afc-b3c8-bb44694c0941
@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, says...
On Dec 6, 1:56 am, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:32 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewh...@outthere.net>
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:41:10 -0800, tankfixer
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:04:30 -0800, tankfixer
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wrote:
In article
<bqE3j.2541$NY...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
--
<factorial_nine> "Male masturbation is a personal turn off for me. As a
single woman, I'm especially looking for a man who doesn't masturbate,
even while he's single."
<factorial_nine> GOOD LUCK, *****.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
IIRC he at one points was trying to use the defense that as commander in
chief he couldn't be charged or some such silliness.
I suspect his lawyers pointed out the numerious senior officers who had
been cashiered out of the service for having an afair with subordinates.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
07 Dec 2007 01:11:22 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:45:28 -0800 (PST), genie <margene_d@yahoo.com> wrote
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On Dec 6, 1:56 am, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:32 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewh...@outthere.net>
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wrote:
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<bqE3j.2541$NY...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife. The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
Where is that "fact" ever spelled out? If being an embarrassment was
grounds for dismissal or discharge, Dubya would have been disqualified
from the presidential race the first time he opened his mouth in public.
--
Bushism 1-6:
"In other words, I don't think people ought to be compelled to make the
decision which they think is best for their family."
--Washington, D.C.; December 11, 2002
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
07 Dec 2007 02:16:29 AM |
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:45:28 -0800 (PST), genie <margene_d@yahoo.com> wrote
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wrote:
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wrote in
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of
cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually
solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could
also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a
liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make
someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good
a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made
the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife.
The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good
president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then
tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates
to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his
employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your
claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He
diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
Where is that "fact" ever spelled out? If being an embarrassment was
grounds for dismissal or discharge, Dubya would have been disqualified
from the presidential race the first time he opened his mouth in public.
The problem is that you, and all libs, see perjury, sodomy, and the other
charges as merely an embarrassment, because Clintoon was a dummycrat. Let a
republican or independent politician sneeze in public, and you demand the
death penalty.
The double standard you live by is the embarrassment.
Honu
.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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07 Dec 2007 02:34:42 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:16:29 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<QsidnWTK5_vAnMTanZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of
cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually
solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could
also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a
liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make
someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how good
a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he made
the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife.
The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good
president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then
tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows. The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get subordinates
to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his
employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your
claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He
diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
Where is that "fact" ever spelled out? If being an embarrassment was
grounds for dismissal or discharge, Dubya would have been disqualified
from the presidential race the first time he opened his mouth in public.
The problem is that you, and all libs, see perjury, sodomy, and the other
charges as merely an embarrassment, because Clintoon was a dummycrat.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic to boot
given your IOKIYAR attitude.
Let a republican or independent politician sneeze in public, and you
demand the death penalty.
Feel free to quote anything where I have called for the death penalty
for a Republican or Independent due to them "sneezing in public."
The double standard you live by is the embarrassment.
Classic irony, given that you cannot point out any double standard I
have ever taken.
--
Bushism 2-6:
"What I'm suggesting to you is, if you can't name the foreign minister
of Mexico, therefore, you know, you're not capable of what you do. But
the truth of the matter is, you are, whether you can or not."
--As quoted in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer; November 6, 1999
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| User: "Hertz Donut" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
07 Dec 2007 04:38:46 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:16:29 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those
who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of
cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually
solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its
former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could
also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a
liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his
own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make
someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how
good
a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and
I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he
made
the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife.
The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good
president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then
tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows.
The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and
lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never
been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get
subordinates
to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him
sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return for sexual favors?
He was the boss.
Nothing needed to be promised.
It is sad you seem to think it ethical for the boss to use his
employees
for his own pleasure.
I never claimed it was ethical. You claimed he used his position
to
get her to give him sexual favors but you couldn't back up your
claim.
Are you honestly implying that he *didn't* use his position? He
diddled her
in his antechambers, in the White House.
Did it ever occur to you that the relationship was consensual? As
a matter of fact, Monica herself claimed that it was a "mutual
relationship, mutual on all levels."
I guess what you are not getting, is the fact a President, thus
"Commander in Chief", is obliged to follow the same rules of conduct
expected from a person in the military, even though he was never,
himself, commisioned. The idea that his conduct should not prove to be
biased or an embarrassment to his position.
Where is that "fact" ever spelled out? If being an embarrassment was
grounds for dismissal or discharge, Dubya would have been disqualified
from the presidential race the first time he opened his mouth in public.
The problem is that you, and all libs, see perjury, sodomy, and the other
charges as merely an embarrassment, because Clintoon was a dummycrat.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic to boot
given your IOKIYAR attitude.
Let a republican or independent politician sneeze in public, and you
demand the death penalty.
Feel free to quote anything where I have called for the death penalty
for a Republican or Independent due to them "sneezing in public."
The double standard you live by is the embarrassment.
Classic irony, given that you cannot point out any double standard I
have ever taken.
You keep repeating yourself....
Yet you are completely unable to rebut or refute...
How get back to your "classical I ain't got nuthin'" replies...
Honu
.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come? |
07 Dec 2007 08:52:06 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 00:38:46 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Yeah - Clinton failed to let the
terrorists get away
with
it.
you misspelled "...encouraged the
terrorists..."
So you think that *punishing* those
who
attack us
*encourages*
them?
When did Clinton do punish any ?
By sending $5 million dollars worth of
cruise
missiles to
destroy
$5,000 worth of empty tents.
Not much of a punishment....
Clinton was more interested in giving the
appearance of doing
something about problems than in actually
solving
problems.
The story of his life it seems
That describes Bush more than it does Clinton.
Someone is obsessed....
Obsessed with returning this country to its
former
greatness before
Bush took office? You could say that. You could
also
say I'm
obsessed
with facts and reality.
Clinton was a disgrace. You want to return to a
liar, a
sodomist, and
someone who would turn the White House into his
own
private brothel?
I say that if a ***** is what it takes to make
someone a
good
president,
then line up the presidential whores. Look how
good
a
president JFK
was!
You miss the point...as most liberals do...
So what was your point? You asked me a question and
I
answered it.
The point was that he lied. The point was that he
made
the
White House into
a brothel. The point is that he cheated on his wife.
The
point is that his
morals were non-existent. But yet you idolize him.
And my point is that I don't care what he did with his
personal
life.
Neither do most Americans, because he was a good
president.
If your wife cheated on you, lied about it, and then
tried to
change the
meanings of words in the English language when you
confronted
her, would you
stay with her?
You're mistaking the oath of office for wedding vows.
The
only
person
who should care about Bill Clinton's personal affairs is
Hillary.
so you support sexual harassment in the workplace and
lying
under oath?
There was no sexual harassment, and he should have never
been
put
on trial
by jealous Republicans for getting a ***** first place.
You condone a superior using his position to get
subordinates
to
give
him sexual favors in the workplace ?
Show me where he used his position to get her to give him
sexual
favors.
Don't tell me you posted that with a straight face ?
So what did he promise her in return | | | | | | | |
