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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"dapra"
Date:	05 Nov 2007 01:21:39 PM
Object:	How to survive a fascist regime to come?

After more than 4 years of an aggressive, illegal war by the Bush
administration, violating The Constitution, US laws, with the
cooperation, collusion of the Democrats in the last year, it's time to
ask; how to survive a fascist regime or even more to come?
Any ideas? Can it be stopped? Can at least our kids come out in the
other end, battered, ashamed but free, as the Germans did?
Or will it be the end of history? The corporate oligarchy will rule the
globe with its private armys, its surveillance apparatus, and with its
torturers for ever.
.

User: "Governor Swill"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 02:35:47 PM

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:22:52 -0800, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:

It doesn't matter *what* might have been in the memo.
When asked if Bush read it, Rice said, "he's not much of a reader".

Very few top executives are - they simply do not have time. In the US
a top manager spends 78% of his/her time talking to people. Most
reports are (at best) skimmed over while they rely on subordinates to
condense the essential details into the key elements needed to make a
decision.*

*"The Managers Job: Folklore and Fact" Henry Mintzberg

Do you really think that any President has time to carefully study
every report?

Information can be gathered more rapidly by reading than by
conversation.
Swill
--
Money isn't always dollars, but dollars are always money.
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
.

User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 05:03:37 PM

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:35:47 -0500, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:22:52 -0800, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote:

It doesn't matter *what* might have been in the memo.
When asked if Bush read it, Rice said, "he's not much of a reader".

Information can be gathered more rapidly by reading than by
conversation.

Even as a 1SG in the Army I found myself with no time to read and
wound up getting much of my information verbally.
I take it you have never had any college level management classes nor
any 'real world' management experience.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
.

User: "Sanders Kaufman"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 09:11:59 PM

"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:ed2fj3lel47idl1ulc6jovp7hi865s17mv@4ax.com...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:35:47 -0500, Governor Swill

Information can be gathered more rapidly by reading than by
conversation.

Even as a 1SG in the Army I found myself with no time to read and
wound up getting much of my information verbally.

He had plenty of time to set the all-time record for vacationing.
He had plenty of time to sell out Valerie Plame to the enemy.
He had plenty of time to fall off of his Segway - baaad.
So, to believe that he didn't have time to read a couple of paragraphs is
the peak of stupidity.
I'm serious about this one - what you claim not just a little stupid, it's
downright mornic.
--
That's why all those soldiers you don't care about have to die tonight -
bleeding and screaming in mortal pain.
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	12 Nov 2007 12:48:01 AM

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:59 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote
in message news:<3wPZi.68203$YL5.14534@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:ed2fj3lel47idl1ulc6jovp7hi865s17mv@4ax.com...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:35:47 -0500, Governor Swill

Information can be gathered more rapidly by reading than by
conversation.

Even as a 1SG in the Army I found myself with no time to read and
wound up getting much of my information verbally.

He had plenty of time to set the all-time record for vacationing.
He had plenty of time to sell out Valerie Plame to the enemy.
He had plenty of time to fall off of his Segway - baaad.

So, to believe that he didn't have time to read a couple of paragraphs is
the peak of stupidity.
I'm serious about this one - what you claim not just a little stupid, it's
downright mornic.

Isn't it funny how the more these right-wingers write, the more they
convince us that George W. Bush deserves the title, "Worst President"?
--
"Incalculable human and political costs [would have been the result of
ousting Saddam Hussein]...We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad
and, in effect rule Iraq."
--George H.W. Bush, "A World Transformed"
.

User: "What Me Worry?"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	14 Nov 2007 11:48:29 AM

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13jftp1r49i8e4e@corp.supernews.com...

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:59 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote
in message news:<3wPZi.68203$YL5.14534@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:ed2fj3lel47idl1ulc6jovp7hi865s17mv@4ax.com...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:35:47 -0500, Governor Swill

Information can be gathered more rapidly by reading than by
conversation.

Even as a 1SG in the Army I found myself with no time to read and
wound up getting much of my information verbally.

He had plenty of time to set the all-time record for vacationing.
He had plenty of time to sell out Valerie Plame to the enemy.
He had plenty of time to fall off of his Segway - baaad.

So, to believe that he didn't have time to read a couple of paragraphs is
the peak of stupidity.
I'm serious about this one - what you claim not just a little stupid,
it's
downright mornic.

Isn't it funny how the more these right-wingers write, the more they
convince us that George W. Bush deserves the title, "Worst President"?

They love Bush because he's paranoid, misanthropic and a bumbling fool -
just like them.

--
"Incalculable human and political costs [would have been the result of
ousting Saddam Hussein]...We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad
and, in effect rule Iraq."
--George H.W. Bush, "A World Transformed"

User: "Sanders Kaufman"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	14 Nov 2007 09:36:33 PM

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:ividnZ7k8rlyqabanZ2dnUVZ_s2tnZ2d@insightbb.com...

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message

Isn't it funny how the more these right-wingers write, the more they
convince us that George W. Bush deserves the title, "Worst President"?

They love Bush because he's paranoid, misanthropic and a bumbling fool -
just like them.

They don't really love him (or anything else) at *all*.
As soon as he's gone, that Christian gratitude will kick in and they'll
forget all about him.
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 07:36:47 PM

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:22:52 -0800, Colin Campbell <activated_95b@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:<p1u9j31pg63ibilq5ep8bagddalbq0oar5@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:40:42 -0600, "Sanders Kaufman"
<bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j83d1ob4r024@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating

It doesn't matter *what* might have been in the memo.
When asked if Bush read it, Rice said, "he's not much of a reader".

Do you really think Bush made the right decision to outright IGNORE
this particular report?
--
<LordChewy> so my dad found my porn folder
<LordChewy> and he was getting all pissed
<LordChewy> so its all like "does this surprise you? i'm not stupid you know"
<LordChewy> "i know dad"
<LordChewy> "what do you have to say for yourself?"
<LordChewy> at this point i stare at him straight in the eyes and say
"C:Documents and SettingsRickyMy Documentsfaxessent faxes"
<LordChewy> and he just shut up
<kingKahn> what is it?
<LordChewy> its his porn folder
.

User: "redc1c4"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 10:28:41 AM

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

Of course you're ignoring the fact that it wasn't the first memo Bush
had been given, either. And the fact that others in the CIA and his
own cabinet that were practically begging him to act. They knew it was
going to happen soon, but Bush paid them no mind and just went on
clearing brush in Crawford.

(mercy snipage occurs)
whatever... if Bush had acted on anything without a causis belli, the twisted
panty bunch (yourself included) would have had conniptions about him being a
"cowboy" and whining that we should "explore diplomatic means" & "work in
concert
with our (so called) allies"..... i call "*****".
redc1c4,
lucky for you breathing is autonomic: you're too stupid to do it on your own.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 11:30:04 AM

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

if Bush had acted on anything without a causis belli, the twisted
panty bunch (yourself included) would have had conniptions about him being a
"cowboy" and whining that we should "explore diplomatic means" & "work in
concert
with our (so called) allies"..... i call "*****".

No, I would actually applaud him if he had actually done his job by
stopping a terrorist attack. Of course if he had, he would have had a
much harder time coming up with an excuse to invade Iraq.

redc1c4,
lucky for you breathing is autonomic: you're too stupid to do it on your own.

Wow, a self-flame?
--
They say that when god was in Jerusalem he forgave his murderers, but now
he will not forgive an honest man for differing with him on the subject
of the Trinity. They say that God says to me, "Forgive your enemies." I
say, "I do;" but he says, "I will damn mine." God should be consistent. If
he wants me to forgive my enemies he should forgive his. I am asked to
forgive enemies who can hurt me. God is only asked to forgive enemies who
cannot hurt him. He certainly ought to be as generous as he asks us to be.
- Robert Ingersoll
.

User: "redc1c4"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 01:55:32 PM

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.
redc1c4,
your BDS is showing. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 03:00:41 PM

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

redc1c4,
your BDS is showing. %-)

--
Bushism 5-6/7:
"We've had a great weekend here in the Land of the Enchanted."
--Albuquerque, New Mexico; May 12, 2003 [New Mexico's state nickname is
"Land of Enchantment"]
.

User: "redc1c4"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 04:06:55 PM

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......
redc1c4,
it's not our fault you don't take your meds. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 07:22:10 PM

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?
--
Bushism 1-1:
"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies
against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of
a hat."
--Washington D.C.; September 17, 2004
.

User: "redc1c4"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	10 Nov 2007 09:56:57 AM

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?

so you admit to a liberal bias......
redc1c4,
(thanks for playing! %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	10 Nov 2007 05:42:43 PM

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:56:57 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4735D4FE.ED99E7E3@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?

so you admit to a liberal bias......

I admit to a reality bias.
--
Bushism 8-5/6:
"The fundamental question is, Will I be a successful president when it
comes to foreign policy? I will be, but until I'm the president, it's
going to be hard for me to verify that I think I'll be more effective."
--Wayne, Michigan; June 28, 2000
.

User: "redc1c4"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 02:04:10 AM

Bill Baker wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:56:57 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4735D4FE.ED99E7E3@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?

so you admit to a liberal bias......

I admit to a reality bias.

your reality is biased.
redc1c4,
(it's neither actual or accurate, but biased none the less. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 10:10:43 AM

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:04:10 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4736B7AE.F956BFEF@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:56:57 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4735D4FE.ED99E7E3@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?

so you admit to a liberal bias......

I admit to a reality bias.

your reality is biased.

And yet you could dispute anything I said.
--
*** Quits: TITANIC (Excess Flood)
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 10:38:27 AM

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:10:43 -0000, Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org>
wrote in message news:<13jeac338h1ptc1@corp.supernews.com>:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:04:10 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4736B7AE.F956BFEF@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:56:57 GMT, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4735D4FE.ED99E7E3@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:55 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734D9FF.DFE43563@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:55:32 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<4734BB34.101EB6AA@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:41 -0800, redc1c4 <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies>
wrote in message news:<47348AB9.ADBDF490@drunkenbastards.org.ies>:

Bill Baker wrote:

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:04:23 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<Rc2dnSDT7JFxGq7anZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened.

Wow! Talk about living in a delusional world....

Yes, many right-wingers like yourself do.

He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

There were no specifics in the memo. Of course, you'd go on perpetuating
that myth to prop up your failing theory.

(mercy snipage occurs)

whatever...

In other words, you can't dispute a single thing I said.

no need: it disputes itself.

Yeah, facts and reality have a well-known liberal bias, right?

well, in *your* reality they do......

And mine happens to be real reality. Funny how that works, huh?

so you admit to a liberal bias......

I admit to a reality bias.

your reality is biased.

And yet you could dispute anything I said.

Could NOT dispute, I meant to say.
--
Bushism 5-1:
"I know there's a lot of young ladies who are growing up wondering whether
or not they can be champs. And they see the championship teams from USC
and University of Portland here, girls who worked hard to get where they
are, and they're wondering about the example they're setting. What is
life choices about?"
--Washington, D.C.; February 24, 2003
.

User: "Sanders Kaufman"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	11 Nov 2007 09:11:59 PM

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13jec03f32efgab@corp.supernews.com...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:10:43 -0000, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org>

And yet you could dispute anything I said.

Could NOT dispute, I meant to say.

Refute is what you meant
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	12 Nov 2007 12:45:09 AM

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:59 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote
in message news:<3wPZi.68204$YL5.49651@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13jec03f32efgab@corp.supernews.com...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:10:43 -0000, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org>

And yet you could dispute anything I said.

Could NOT dispute, I meant to say.

Refute is what you meant

Yes that, too. I suppose he could dispute it, he would just look very
silly doing so.
--
Bushism 8-7:
"It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more
of our imports come from overseas."
--Beaverton, Oregon; September 25, 2000
.

User: "Sanders Kaufman"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	12 Nov 2007 01:43:40 AM

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13jftjl3vmfj1f6@corp.supernews.com...

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:59 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote

Refute is what you meant

Yes that, too. I suppose he could dispute it, he would just look very
silly doing so.

Well, to decent, intelligent folks - yeah.
But in the right wing community disputing the truth is a sign of *strength*.
.

User: "Bill Baker"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	12 Nov 2007 02:18:33 AM

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:43:40 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote in message news:<MuTZi.8242$yV6.972@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>:

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13jftjl3vmfj1f6@corp.supernews.com...

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:59 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote

Refute is what you meant

Yes that, too. I suppose he could dispute it, he would just look very
silly doing so.

Well, to decent, intelligent folks - yeah.
But in the right wing community disputing the truth is a sign of *strength*.

So I've noticed.
--
Bushism 11-17:
"I also understand how tender the free enterprise system can be."
--White House press conference; Washington, D.C.; July 9, 2002
.

User: "What Me Worry?"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 01:10:06 PM

"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:13j6d3trhenda8c@corp.supernews.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:47 -1000, Hertz Donut <somewhere@outthere.net>
wrote in message news:<VLSdnTPCNt2Cnq7anZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net>:

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:vMqdnSbz8NBNL6_anZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@insightbb.com...

Have you always been such a crybaby?

Gore lost. Get over it. Get on with your miserable, insignificant
little
life.

Take time each day to thank God that Al Gore was not president on 9/11.

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened. He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

Bush was waiting for something a little more obvious. He got it.
.

User: "Sanders Kaufman"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	09 Nov 2007 04:10:25 PM

"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message

If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 may not have even happened. He may
not have ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within
the U.S." like Bush did.

Bush was waiting for something a little more obvious. He got it.

"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Felon, Denny Hastert
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Don Rumsfeld
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Felon, Tom DeLay
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Felon, Rush Limbaugh
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Condi Rice
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Felon, David Ney
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Felon, Duke Cunningham
"We had no way of knowing that terrorists would try to fly planes into
buildings." - Rev. Bush.
.

User: "The Weasel"
Title: Re: How to survive a fascist regime to come?	08 Nov 2007 12:44:54 PM

On Nov 8, 12:55 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:

"The Weasel" <theoneandonlysuperwea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 7, 11:38 am, dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:

What Me Worry? wrote:

"dapra" <dap...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Mike Flannigan wrote:

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Mike Flannigan wrote:

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Mike Flannigan wrote:

"dapra" <dap...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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redc1c4 wrote:

dapra wrote:

After more than 4 years of an aggressive, illegal war by
theBush
administration, violating The Constitution, US laws, with the
cooperation, collusion of the Democrats in the last year, it=

time
to
ask; how to survive a fascist regime or even more to come?

Any ideas? Can it be stopped? Can at least our kids come out=

the
other end, battered, ashamed but free, as the Germans did?

Or will it be the end of history? The corporate oligarchy wi=

rule
the
globe with its private armys, its surveillance apparatus, and
with
its
torturers for ever.

and then your meds kicked in...... %-)

No. I did not get any pills from the Reeducation division of t=

Home
Land Security for 'Freedom and Democracy'. They must have sent
them
to you. It works wonderful! You have no independent thoughts.
What's
the color of your pills?

Aww.. He parrots DNC horse ***** verbatim and then blubbers about
"independent thoughts."

By 'He' I think you mean me. I never parroted "DNC horse *****". =

The

DNC
is worse than the RNC. While the RNC, the Republicans are
representing
the ruling oligarchy.

"Illegal war." A patently stupid statement gleaned directly from =

the

DNC
playbook.

You may goggle 'just war'. It has nothing to do with the DNC.

I said "illegal war," which is a nonsensical statement I've heard
idiot
democrats parrot a thousand times.

Yes, there is a concept of legal war, (self defense, or to prevent an
imminent attack), but one (probably a Christian) who describes to the
idea
of social Darwinism could hardly understand the concept.

They are clear that they want to enrich the top 1%, turn the US
into a
banana republic.

Ridiculous. Turning the US into a banana republic would destroy t=

rich, not enrich them.

Do you know who is the richest man of the world? A clue, he's not
from
any rich country. Destroying ones own country, do not mean he can't
make
his money in the process. The corporate oligarchy has no allegiance
to
any country but to profit.

If you want to turn the US into a banana republic, tax business out=

the country. That'll do it in a heartbeat.

The US has one of the highest corporate taxes in the world and it
should
be zero. That would benefit the country and the citizens far more t=

hat

following the left's model of greed and envy.

Greed, envy? What else would you come up with? Oh, class warfare! T=

corporate oligarchy increased its income from about 40:1 to 500:1 of
CEO's
income to median income. The oligarchy is winning the war and drinki=

the
blood of the middle class. But no one would accuse them with class
warfare. Idiots will believe anything as long asBushrepeats it enough
times.

What corporation, made billions on the Iraq war, moved its head
quarters
out of the US? Do you know why?

Sorry, but turning the US into a banana republic does not benefit
Haliburton who makes it's money from the US government. That's utte=

rly

ludicrous.

Try again.

The rats are abounding the ship.

They want to kill, eliminate the remaining pseudo democracy in t=

USA.

Let me guess.Bushstole the election?

Well, to be precise, the USSC 'elected' him.

After the Florida SC illegally extended the deadline afterBushwon
every
count and subsequent recount. Do you have enough brains to understa=

that the loser in an election cannot simply be allowed to demand
recounts
as long as he pleases and how THAT would destroy democracy?!

Gheez..

The USSC made its most despicable decision in its existence. They
awarded
the presidency to the one they preferred, 5:4.

GoreVidal said that theBushvGoredecision marked the end of the
Republic. I'm inclined to agree. It certainly shot to hell the
abiding
belief that we live in a "democratic" society adhering to the laws
derived
from the Constitution.

Assuming that Vidal was right, where does that put us?

Vidal must have a lot better foresight then I had. The USSC decision
were despicable, but I did not see it as an "end of the Republic."

Despicable?? The ruling from the USSC was CORRECT!!!!

Suck on this, traitor:

Traitor?? You are the one who is supporting the overthrow of the US
Constitution. Why do you hate this county??? Why don't you take you
fascist ***** out of here??

000

ballots. A manual recount of all ballots, says County Commissioner Carol
Roberts, ?clearly would affect the results of the national election.?

10:06 a.m. Volusia County officials begin a manual recount of all 184,018
ballots. County lawyers move quickly to fight a 5 p.m. Tuesday deadline.

MONDAY, NOV. 13

9 a.m. Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris orders all counties to
finish their recounts by the 5 p.m. Tuesday deadline.

10 a.m. Volusia County sues to extend certification deadline. Lawyers for
Palm Beach County,Gorecampaign join suit.Bushlawyers join Florida to
block extension.

1 p.m. U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks in Miami rejectsBush?s
attempt to stop manual recounts in Florida.

2-3 p.m. Harris issues legal opinion on Palm Beach recount conflicting wi=

one Tuesday by Attorney General Butterworth.

4 p.m.Goreappears on television, says it?s important to ?spend the days
necessary? to determine the winner.

7-8 p.m. A hand recount of 4,000 ballots in Broward County finds no big
problems. County rejects full recount. Dem ocrats vow to appeal.

TUESDAY, NOV. 14

8:15 a.m. Palm Beach County votes 2 to 1 to suspend its hand recount of a=

ballots after conflicting legal opinions.

11 a.m. James Baker proposes that Democrats drop their lawsuits and accept
the state tally as of 5 p.m., including any hand counts in by then, and
await the overseas absentee ballots. Warren Christopher declines: ?That?s
like offering you the sleeves from your vest.?

11:30 a.m. Miami election officials decide to hand count a sample of
precincts, later deciding against a full recount.

1 p.m. In Tallahassee, Judge Terry Lewis says the 5 p.m. deadline for
certifying vote totals should stand but says counties can file supplement=

or corrected totals later. Harris can ignore these, Lewis orders, only if
she uses ?proper exercise of discretion.? Officials in Volusia Countyjoin=

later by Broward and Palm Beach counties move to appeal Lewis?s ruling.

3:30 p.m. Broward Circuit Judge John Miller allows the county to go ahead
with a manual recount of all ballots cast throughout the county.

4:30 p.m. Palm Beach decides to submit its machine-counted results to the
state and to proceed with a manual recount of all ballots Wednesday.

5 p.m. The deadline arrives for counties to certify and report their
election returns to the secretary of state?s office.

7:37 p.m. Harris issues vote totals as of 5 p.m.Bushholds a 300-vote
margin, which is considerably less than the 1,784-vote margin he had
immediately after the election. Harris says she will comply with Judge
Lewis?s order to consider late returns. She gives two heavily Democratic
counties until 2 p.m. Wednesday to explain, in writing, why they want to =

add

hand recounts after the 5 p.m. deadline.

WEDNESDAY, NOV. 15

8 a.m. Harris asks the Florida Supreme Court to make counties stop
hand-counting ballots ?pending resolution as to whether any basis exists =

modify the certified results? after Tuesday?s deadline. She seeks
consolidation of all election lawsuits in Tallahassee.

10-11 a.m. The Florida Supreme Court accepts a request from Palm Beach
County to rule on whether it can continue to hand count ballots despite
conflicting legal opinions.

11:30 a.m. Palm Beach Circuit Judge Jorge Labarga rules that county elect=

ion

officials can?t discard ballots with ?dimpled chads,? ballots indented but
not perforated. Democrats had challenged policy of discarding such ballot=

s=2E

2 p.m. Harris receives letters from the three counties still hand-counting
ballots, explaining reasons for delay. In Atlanta, the 11th Circuit Court=

Appeals agrees to hearBushappeal of a suit to halt manual recounts.

3:40 p.m. Broward County officials begin counting nearly 600,000 ballots =

hand.

5 p.m. The Florida Supreme Court denies Harris?s petition to stop hand
counts and orders further testimony from Palm Beach lawyers Thursday
morning.

6:36 p.m.Goreproposes completion of hand counts in Dade, Broward, and Pal=

m ...